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26th Aug '16 7:38:52 AM TheAmazingBlachman
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* ''Series/ChristmasOnVesterbro'' has Music/AndersMatthesen appear in a cameo AsHimself. Not only that, but it seems that within the universe, Matthesen does comedy about [[Franchise/StewartStardust the sailor]], who's the main character of the entire series.

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* ''Series/ChristmasOnVesterbro'' has Music/AndersMatthesen appear not only playing all main characters, but he also appears in a cameo AsHimself. Not only that, but it seems that within the universe, Matthesen does comedy about [[Franchise/StewartStardust the sailor]], who's the main character of the entire series.
21st Aug '16 8:54:27 AM eroock
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** Reiser questions why the movie actor game "Back to Bacon" doesn't use Mickey Rourke instead. This change would have minimal impact in real life since Mickey Rourke appeared in ''Diner'' with Kevin Bacon, so any connection to Bacon would have at most only one more connection. But since Reiser also appeared in ''Diner'' maybe that movie didn't exist on ''Series/MadAboutYou''.

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** Reiser questions why the movie actor game "Back to Bacon" doesn't use Mickey Rourke Creator/MickeyRourke instead. This change would have minimal impact in real life since Mickey Rourke appeared in ''Diner'' with Kevin Bacon, so any connection to Bacon would have at most only one more connection. But since Reiser also appeared in ''Diner'' maybe that movie didn't exist on ''Series/MadAboutYou''.
17th Aug '16 7:57:40 PM dmcreif
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** ''Music/TupacShakur'' existed in ''The Wire'' universe, yet he and Wood Harris (who plays Avon Barksdale) both appeared in ''Film/AboveTheRim''.

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** ''Music/TupacShakur'' existed in ''The Wire'' universe, yet he and Wood Harris (who plays Avon Barksdale) both appeared in ''Film/AboveTheRim''. Furthermore, in the 2016 biographical film ''All Eyez on Me'', Tupac's stepfather is played by Jamie Hector (Marlo Stanfield).



** Two Jay Landsmans are in the show: the real Jay Landsman appears in ''The Wire'' as Lt. Dennis Mello. There's also the characters of Sgt. Jay Landsman, played by Delaney Williams and named in tribute to the real guy. This causes a very surreal scene in "Took" where Lt. Mello, Jay Landsman, and [[Series/HomicideLifeOnTheStreet Detective]] [[Series/LawAndOrderSpecialVictimsUnit John]] [[JustForFun/JohnMunch Munch]] (who was ''based'' on Landsman) all appear in a bar.

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** Two Jay Landsmans are in the show: the real Jay Landsman appears in ''The Wire'' as plays Lt. Dennis Mello. There's also the characters character of Sgt. Jay Landsman, played by Delaney Williams and named in tribute to the real guy. This causes a very surreal scene in "Took" where Lt. Mello, Jay Landsman, and [[Series/HomicideLifeOnTheStreet Detective]] [[Series/LawAndOrderSpecialVictimsUnit John]] [[JustForFun/JohnMunch Munch]] (who was ''based'' on Landsman) all appear in a bar.
8th Aug '16 7:12:00 PM dmcreif
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* In ''Series/HouseOfCardsUS'', Frank Underwood plays video games in his spare time. Creator/KevinSpacey [[InkSuitActor loaned his voice and appearance]] in ''VideoGame/CallOfDutyAdvancedWarfare'' for Jonathan Irons, who seems to be very close to Underwood in personality to boot. This has led to people hoping that at some point, Frank will play COD:AW and ask why Jonathan Irons bears quite the resemblance to him.

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* In ''Series/HouseOfCardsUS'':
**In the first two seasons of
''Series/HouseOfCardsUS'', Frank Underwood plays video games in his spare time. Creator/KevinSpacey [[InkSuitActor loaned his voice and appearance]] in ''VideoGame/CallOfDutyAdvancedWarfare'' for Jonathan Irons, who seems to be very close to Underwood in personality to boot. This has led to people hoping that at some point, Frank will would play COD:AW and ask why Jonathan Irons bears quite the resemblance to him.him.
**After Frank is shot, several references are made to the 1981 attempted assassination of Ronald Reagan, which was carried out by John Hinckley Jr., who was trying to impress actress Jodie Foster, over whom he had developed an obsession. The paradox is that Jodie Foster also directed a season 2 episode of ''House of Cards''.
8th Aug '16 7:08:26 PM dmcreif
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*** Roger Lloyd-Pack, who played John Lumic in the two-part episode "Rise of the Cybermen"/"The Age of Steel", was Barty Crouch Sr. in the film adaptation of ''Goblet of Fire''. However, it becomes justified since Lumic exists in an alternate dimension where there are zeppelins everywhere and England has a President instead of a Prime Minister, so it's entirely possible Roger Lloyd-Pack never existed in that dimension/someone else played Barty Crouch Sr.

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*** Roger Lloyd-Pack, who played John Lumic in the two-part episode "Rise of the Cybermen"/"The Age of Steel", was played Barty Crouch Sr. in the film adaptation of ''Goblet of Fire''. However, it becomes justified since Lumic exists in an alternate dimension where there are zeppelins everywhere and England has a President instead of a Prime Minister, so it's entirely possible Roger Lloyd-Pack never existed in that dimension/someone else played Barty Crouch Sr.



** In the episode "Army of Ghosts," ''Series/EastEnders'' exists as a fictional television series. The character of Peggy Mitchell bars a ghost she presumes to be Den Watts from The Queen Vic. In the real ''[=EastEnders=]'' Watts was killed by his wife Chrissie, who is played by Tracy-Ann Oberman. Oberman played Yvonne Hartman in "Army of Ghosts."

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** In the episode "Army of Ghosts," ''Series/EastEnders'' exists as a fictional television series. The character of Peggy Mitchell bars a ghost she presumes to be Den Watts from The Queen Vic. In the real ''[=EastEnders=]'' ''EastEnders'', Watts was killed by his wife Chrissie, who is played by Tracy-Ann Oberman. Oberman played Yvonne Hartman Oberman, who appears in "Army of Ghosts."Ghosts" as Yvonne Hartman.



*** The Twelfth Doctor is [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuybXJVuUAI appalled]] to discover that there's a horror movie called ''Alien''. He'll be even more offended when he learns the horrible death suffered by someone who [[spoiler:looks just like his secret incarnation]].

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*** The Twelfth Doctor is [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuybXJVuUAI appalled]] is appalled to discover that there's a horror movie called ''Alien''. He'll be even more offended when he learns the horrible death suffered by someone who [[spoiler:looks just like his secret incarnation]].



*** Perhaps his constant lying, story-telling and hazing of JD is him practising his comedy skills (Neil Flynn is a consummate improv comedian).

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*** Perhaps his constant lying, story-telling and hazing of JD is him practising practicing his comedy skills (Neil Flynn is a consummate improv comedian).



* Related to a literature example up above, ''Series/{{Sherlock}}'' contains a very minor but completely headwrecking reference to Creator/ArthurConanDoyle, when a tabloid article about Franchise/SherlockHolmes contains the line "in a twist worthy of a Conan Doyle novella..." This implies that in-universe ACD wrote stories that had the same cultural impact as Sherlock Holmes but couldn't possibly have been Sherlock Holmes, or even anything too similar or it would surely have been referenced more often in the detective's rise to fame.
** In a real-life version of this trope, Steven Moffat admitted on one of the commentary tracks that he couldn't actually film on the ''real'' Baker Street at least in part due to the massive amounts of real-world Sherlock Holmes memorabilia and tourist markers.
** It also namedrops Spock, which, considering Spock himself referenced Sherlock Holmes, makes you wonder....
*** Later on, Creator/BenedictCumberbatch, who plays Sherlock, played [[spoiler:Khan]] in ''Film/StarTrekIntoDarkness''.
** ''{{Series/Elementary}}'', [[FollowTheLeader another modern-day detective series about a detective named Sherlock Holmes and his assistant Watson]] (although [[GenderFlip Watson is a woman this time]]), has Holmes specifically refer to one of Arthur Conan Doyle's books and allude to many others. So either Doyle's work isn't nearly as [[PopCulturalOsmosis ubiquitous]] in their dimension, or he used alternative names for his characters, otherwise the protagonists [[NeverHeardThatOneBefore would never hear the end of it]].

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* Related to a literature example up above, ''Series/{{Sherlock}}'' modern adaptations of SherlockHolmes can be subject to this trope.
**''Series/{{Sherlock}}''
contains a very minor but completely headwrecking reference to Creator/ArthurConanDoyle, when a tabloid article about Franchise/SherlockHolmes contains the line "in a twist worthy of a Conan Doyle novella..." This implies that in-universe ACD wrote stories that had the same cultural impact as Sherlock Holmes but couldn't possibly have been Sherlock Holmes, or even anything too similar or it would surely have been referenced more often in the detective's rise to fame.
** In ***In a real-life version of this trope, Steven Moffat admitted on one of the commentary tracks that he couldn't actually film on the ''real'' Baker Street at least in part due to the massive amounts of real-world Sherlock Holmes memorabilia and tourist markers.
** It ***It also namedrops Spock, which, considering Spock himself referenced Sherlock Holmes, makes you wonder....
*** Later on, Creator/BenedictCumberbatch, who plays Sherlock, played
wonder. Not only that, but Creator/BenedictCumberbatch would play [[spoiler:Khan]] in ''Film/StarTrekIntoDarkness''.
** ''{{Series/Elementary}}'', [[FollowTheLeader another modern-day detective series about a detective named Sherlock Holmes and his assistant Watson]] following in]] ''Sherlock''{{'}}s footsteps (although [[GenderFlip Watson is a woman this time]]), has Holmes specifically refer to one of Arthur Conan Doyle's books and allude to many others. So either Doyle's work isn't nearly as [[PopCulturalOsmosis ubiquitous]] in their dimension, or he used alternative names for his characters, otherwise the protagonists [[NeverHeardThatOneBefore would never hear the end of it]].



** In "Bug," Jesse at one point refers to Gus walking unflinchingly into a line of sniper fire as "Terminator shit". Dean Norris (Hank) made a brief appearance in ''Film/Terminator2JudgmentDay'' as the leader of the LAPD SWAT team that raids Cyberdyne headquarters.
** In "Rabid Dog", a ''{{Series/Deadwood}}'' DVD is among the items you can see on a shelf in Hank's house. That series happens to feature Anna Gunn (Skyler White from this show). Which begs the question: why does Hank not think that his sister-in-law looks a lot like the actress who plays Martha Bullock? The same episode mentions ''Series/BabylonFive'', which Bryan Cranston (who plays Walter White) played a small part as Ranger Captain Ericsson in the episode "The Long Night".
*** Speaking of ''Series/{{Deadwood}}'', Jim Beaver, who has a medium-sized role on that show, appears as Lawson, an arms dealer that Mike, and later Walt, solicit for weapons.

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** In "Bug," Jesse at one point refers to Gus walking unflinchingly into a line of sniper fire as "Terminator shit". Dean Norris (Hank) made a brief appearance in ''Film/Terminator2JudgmentDay'' as the leader of the LAPD SWAT team that raids Cyberdyne headquarters.
headquarters and guns down Miles Dyson.
** In "Rabid Dog", notice that there is a ''{{Series/Deadwood}}'' DVD is among the visible items you can see on a shelf in Hank's house. That series happens to feature Anna Gunn (Skyler White from this show). Which begs the question: why does Surely Hank not think notices that his sister-in-law looks a lot like the actress who plays Martha Bullock? Bullock (both were played by Anna Gunn)? The same episode mentions ''Series/BabylonFive'', which Bryan Cranston (who plays Walter White) played a small part as Ranger Captain Ericsson in the episode "The Long Night".
*** Speaking of ''Series/{{Deadwood}}'',
Night". Not only that, but Jim Beaver, who has a medium-sized role on that show, appears in both ''Breaking Bad'' and ''Better Call Saul'' as Lawson, an arms dealer that Mike, and later Walt, solicit for weapons.



** As shown in the set tour DVD bonus feature, there are some ''X-Files'' DVD's in Junior's bedroom, implying that the two series' creator ''VinceGilligan'' himself exists in ''Breaking Bad''land. Not only that, but several members of the cast have appeared in the ''X-Files'', including Bryan Cranston, in the episode "Drive". Dean Norris (Hank) incidentally appeared in a different ''X-Files'' episode.

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** As shown in the set tour DVD bonus feature, there are some ''X-Files'' DVD's in Junior's Walt Jr's bedroom, implying that the two series' creator ''VinceGilligan'' himself exists in ''Breaking Bad''land. Not only that, but several members of the cast have appeared in the ''X-Files'', including Bryan Cranston, in the episode "Drive". Dean Norris (Hank) incidentally appeared in a different ''X-Files'' episode.



** Later on in the series, Agent Simmons is asked what object she'd most like to find on a deserted island, based on what first comes into her mind. Her answer is the TARDIS, the iconic police box time machine of ''Series/DoctorWho''. However, many ''Doctor Who'' alumni have showed up in Marvel Cinematic Universe projects, including Creator/KarenGillan (Amy Pond in ''Doctor Who''; Nebula in ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy''), Creator/ChristopherEccleston (the Ninth Doctor; Malekith in ''Film/ThorTheDarkWorld''), and Creator/DavidTennant (the Tenth Doctor; Kilgrave in ''Series/JessicaJones2015''). Now, Eccleston and Gillan get a free pass since their MCU characters are not from Earth. But no one in ''Jessica Jones'' remarks about Kilgrave's resemblance to the Tenth Doctor, especially since David Tennant portrays Kilgrave using the same Estuary English accent he used in ''Doctor Who''.

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** Later on in the series, Agent Simmons is asked what object she'd most like to find on a deserted island, based on what first comes into her mind. Her answer is the TARDIS, the iconic police box time machine of ''Series/DoctorWho''. However, many ''Doctor Who'' alumni have showed shown up in Marvel Cinematic Universe projects, including Creator/KarenGillan (Amy Pond in ''Doctor Who''; Nebula in ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy''), Creator/ChristopherEccleston (the Ninth Doctor; Malekith in ''Film/ThorTheDarkWorld''), and Creator/DavidTennant (the Tenth Doctor; Kilgrave in ''Series/JessicaJones2015''). Now, Eccleston and Gillan get a free pass since their MCU characters are not from Earth. But no one in ''Jessica Jones'' remarks about Kilgrave's resemblance to the Tenth Doctor, especially since David Tennant portrays Kilgrave using the same Estuary English accent he used in ''Doctor Who''.



*** Jessica calls Kilgrave "Obi-Wan Kenobi" after he goes "[[JediMindTrick We can go about our business, move along]]" to two cops. David Tennant (Kilgrave) guest-starred in the fifth season of ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'' as Professor Huyang. Furthermore, SamuelLJackson (Nick Fury) and NataliePortman (Jane Foster) appeared in the ''Star Wars'' trilogy as Mace Windu and Padme Amidala.

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*** Jessica calls Kilgrave "Obi-Wan Kenobi" after he goes "[[JediMindTrick We can go about our business, move along]]" to two cops. David Tennant (Kilgrave) guest-starred in the fifth season of ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'' as Professor Huyang. Furthermore, SamuelLJackson (Nick Fury) and NataliePortman (Jane Foster) appeared in the ''Star Wars'' prequel trilogy as Mace Windu and Padme Amidala.
8th Aug '16 6:48:55 PM dmcreif
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** In "Mr. Monk Goes Home Again," when Stottlemeyer and Disher are going over the police sketch of the gunman created based on the description provided by an eyewitness, Randy comments that the sketch has an uncanny resemblance to Creator/KieferSutherland, meaning that the Sutherland family exists in the ''Monk'' universe. Kinda odd, because one of the culprits in "Mr. Monk and the Other Detective" was played by Kiefer Sutherland's half-brother Rossif Sutherland.
** Several episodes make references to ''Series/{{Columbo}}'', usually with it being a nickname for Monk. The implication is that ''Columbo'' exists in the ''Monk'' universe. Except, several ''Monk'' actors appeared in ''Columbo'' episodes, most notably Dr. Kroger actor Stanley Kamel (as a congressional aide in "Agenda for Murder") and Dr. Bell actor Hector Elizondo (as a murderous diplomat in "A Case of Immunity").

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** In "Mr. Monk Goes Home Again," when Stottlemeyer and Disher are going over the police sketch of the gunman created based on the description provided by an eyewitness, Randy comments that the sketch has an uncanny resemblance to Creator/KieferSutherland, meaning that the Sutherland family exists in the ''Monk'' universe. Kinda odd, because No one comments on how one of the culprits in "Mr. Monk and the Other Detective" was played by looks like Kiefer Sutherland's half-brother Rossif Sutherland.
** In "Mr. Monk and the Captain's Marriage," when Monk, Natalie, and Randy go to the hospital to interview Gerald, a homeless man who witnessed a murder, Gerald shows them his pet mouse Devo and his him do some impressions. Natalie comments that the mouse seems like an uncanny RobertDeNiro. One hopes Natalie never watches ''Film/{{Heat}}'', one of De Niro's more known films of the 1990s, since Ted Levine (Captain Stottlemeyer) appears in that movie as one of Vincent Hanna's detectives.
** Several episodes make references to ''Series/{{Columbo}}'', usually with it being a nickname for Monk.Monk due to his eccentricites. The implication is that ''Columbo'' exists in the ''Monk'' universe. Except, several ''Monk'' Monk probably doesn't watch it, because if he did, he'd notice among other things that actors appeared who look just like his shrinks appear in ''Columbo'' episodes, most notably the show (Stanley Kamel, who played Dr. Kroger actor Stanley Kamel (as Kroger, portrayed a congressional aide in "Agenda for Murder") and Dr. Bell actor Murder"; Hector Elizondo (as Elizondo, who played Dr. Bell, portrayed a murderous diplomat in "A Case of Immunity").Immunity")
5th Aug '16 2:08:15 PM dmcreif
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** ''Music/TupacShakur'' existed in ''The Wire'' universe (a few Tupac posters can be seen at various points), yet he and Wood Harris (Avon Barksdale) both appeared in ''Film/AboveTheRim''.

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** ''Music/TupacShakur'' existed in ''The Wire'' universe (a few Tupac posters can be seen at various points), universe, yet he and Wood Harris (Avon (who plays Avon Barksdale) both appeared in ''Film/AboveTheRim''.



** Two Jay Landsmans are in the show: the real Jay Landsman appears in ''The Wire'' as Dennis Mello. The character named Jay Landsman is played by Delaney Williams. Made more confusing in a scene in "Took" where Lt. Mello, Jay Landsman, and [[Series/HomicideLifeOnTheStreet Detective]] [[Series/LawAndOrderSpecialVictimsUnit John]] [[JustForFun/JohnMunch Munch]] (who was ''based'' on Landsman) all appear in a bar.

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** Two Jay Landsmans are in the show: the real Jay Landsman appears in ''The Wire'' as Lt. Dennis Mello. The character named There's also the characters of Sgt. Jay Landsman is Landsman, played by Delaney Williams. Made more confusing Williams and named in tribute to the real guy. This causes a very surreal scene in "Took" where Lt. Mello, Jay Landsman, and [[Series/HomicideLifeOnTheStreet Detective]] [[Series/LawAndOrderSpecialVictimsUnit John]] [[JustForFun/JohnMunch Munch]] (who was ''based'' on Landsman) all appear in a bar.bar.
**John Munch's appearance creates another set of paradoxes as many members of ''The Wire'' main cast [[http://www.imdb.com/search/name?roles=tt0306414,tt0106028 have appeared in at least one episode]] of ''Homicide: Life on the Street'', with some (like Clark Johnson and Peter Gerety) having been ''Homicide'' main cast members.
4th Aug '16 6:50:24 PM dmcreif
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* On ''Series/TheWire'' Wu-Tang Clan songs have been heard playing on stereos, and yet Wu-Tang Clan member Method Man has a recurring role on the show as gangster Cheese Wagstaff.
** The infamous RealLife Baltimore drug dealer "Little Melvin" Williams (who was the partial inspiration for Avon Barksdale) is also acknowledged as a real figure at one point. Williams, who has served prison time and reformed since his criminal days, has a small recurring role as Bunny Colvin's friend [[NoNameGiven the Deacon]], but no one comments on his resemblance to Little Melvin.

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* On ''Series/TheWire'' Wu-Tang ''Series/TheWire'':
**Wu-Tang
Clan songs have been heard playing on stereos, and yet Wu-Tang Clan member Method Man has a recurring role on the show as gangster Cheese Wagstaff.
** The infamous RealLife Baltimore drug dealer "Little Melvin" Williams (who was the partial inspiration for Avon Barksdale) is also acknowledged as a real figure at one point. point, when Avon ponders how future generations in Baltimore will remember him. Williams, who has served prison time and reformed since his criminal days, has after being released, and who was the basis for Avon, had a small recurring role as Bunny Colvin's friend [[NoNameGiven the Deacon]], but no one comments on his resemblance to Little Melvin.Melvin.
**''Music/TupacShakur'' existed in ''The Wire'' universe (a few Tupac posters can be seen at various points), yet he and Wood Harris (Avon Barksdale) both appeared in ''Film/AboveTheRim''.
** The reference to former Baltimore Mayor Kurt Schmoke in Season 5 is this because Schmoke made a cameo appearance in Season 3, playing a health official.
** In one episode, [=McNulty=] pontificates that the core cop cast of the show are among maybe ten or twenty truly good cops in Baltimore. One of the cops that he names is Ed Burns, one of the show's co-creators who is indeed a former cop. Burns was many years retired from police work when he began working on this show, so the cop in question would have to be a ''different'' Ed Burns.
** Two Jay Landsmans are in the show: the real Jay Landsman appears in ''The Wire'' as Dennis Mello. The character named Jay Landsman is played by Delaney Williams. Made more confusing in a scene in "Took" where Lt. Mello, Jay Landsman, and [[Series/HomicideLifeOnTheStreet Detective]] [[Series/LawAndOrderSpecialVictimsUnit John]] [[JustForFun/JohnMunch Munch]] (who was ''based'' on Landsman) all appear in a bar.
** Omar is a fan of HBO's ''Series/{{Oz}}'', a show that has featured ''Wire'' cast members like Dominick Lombardozzi (Herc), Seth Gilliam (Ellis Carver), John Doman (Bill Rawls), Lance Reddick (Cedric Daniels), JD Williams (Bodie), Clarke Peters (Lester Freamon), and Method Man (Cheese).
31st Jul '16 12:16:04 PM nombretomado
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** There's an episode) where Lex Luthor goes into a facility and meets a beautiful woman, he asks for the Chief Engineer and she answers that it's her. Lex gets all surprised, whila asking "are you the engineer?" and she replies "were you expecting a guy with long hair, wearing a StarWars t-shirt and playing Playstation?". So, as stated above about Luke Skywalker, there's Star Wars in the Smallville universe, probably with [[AwesomeMusic music score]] by John Williams, but he didn't compose the music for the Superman films because those films don't exist. Also, no Playstation games about DCComics.

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** There's an episode) where Lex Luthor goes into a facility and meets a beautiful woman, he asks for the Chief Engineer and she answers that it's her. Lex gets all surprised, whila asking "are you the engineer?" and she replies "were you expecting a guy with long hair, wearing a StarWars t-shirt and playing Playstation?". So, as stated above about Luke Skywalker, there's Star Wars in the Smallville universe, probably with [[AwesomeMusic music score]] by John Williams, but he didn't compose the music for the Superman films because those films don't exist. Also, no Playstation games about DCComics.Creator/DCComics.
24th Jul '16 2:51:16 PM ZimFan89
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** In "Myriad", Cat turns down an offscreen date offer from Harrison Ford, saying she doesn't date either older men or married ones. Which implies that both Cat and Calista Flockhart (who plays her) exist in the same universe.
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