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3rd Feb '18 1:24:41 PM Rebu
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** "Missing" had an EOD tech reference ''[=MacGyver=]''. A decade and change later, [=H50=] had a crossover with the reboot [=MacGyver=]. Both versions of the titular character are EOD techs, and it's ''technically'' possible that the reboot version had a relative by the same name who was also an EOD tech known for improvising gadgets to save the day, because he'd be far too young to do it himself.
31st Jan '18 8:10:39 AM Tsqueeze
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* ''Series/ItsAlwaysSunnyInPhiladelphia''. The episode "The Gang Wrestles for the Troops" opens with the gang watching a Wrestling/{{WW|E}}F wrestling match and expressing their fandom for the wrestlers of the '80s, mentioning many real-life WWF wrestlers. Later in the episode, Dennis, Mac, and Charlie attend a local amateur wrestling show and hire the star of the show, Da'Maniac, to be in their own show. Da'Maniac is played by professional wrestler Wrestling/RoddyPiper, who was very big in the '80s. Despite this, he is treated like a completely different person.

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* ''Series/ItsAlwaysSunnyInPhiladelphia''. ''Series/ItsAlwaysSunnyInPhiladelphia'':
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The episode "The Gang Wrestles for the Troops" opens with the gang watching a Wrestling/{{WW|E}}F wrestling match and expressing their fandom for the wrestlers of the '80s, mentioning many real-life WWF wrestlers. Later in the episode, Dennis, Mac, and Charlie attend a local amateur wrestling show and hire the star of the show, Da'Maniac, to be in their own show. Da'Maniac is played by professional wrestler Wrestling/RoddyPiper, who was very big in the '80s. Despite this, he is treated like a completely different person.person.
** In the Season 6 Episode "The Gang Buys a Boat," Mac and Dennis want to throw some "P Diddy-style parties" on their boat. Sweet Dee creates a "P Diddy boat dance" while listening to the Notorious B.I.G. song "Mo Money Mo Problems," which Diddy (then known as Puff Daddy) was featured in. However, in the Season 8 episode "Charlie's Mom Has Cancer," Sean "Diddy" Combs appears as a guest actor, playing Dr. Jinx, a church gardener who claims to be a practitioner of homeopathic herbal medicine.
19th Jan '18 8:36:37 PM jormis29
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** The cast of ''Scrubs'' frequently make references to ''Series/{{Friends}}'', including repeated comparisons of J.D. and Elliot to Ross and Rachel, but don't recognize Matthew Perry when he makes his cameo, or even Courtney Cox who becomes a recurring character.

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** The cast of ''Scrubs'' frequently make references to ''Series/{{Friends}}'', including repeated comparisons of J.D. and Elliot to Ross and Rachel, but don't recognize Matthew Perry Creator/MatthewPerry when he makes his cameo, or even Courtney Cox who becomes a recurring character.



** In the ''West Wing'' episode "20 Hours in LA," Donna notices MatthewPerry at a party. A few seasons later, Matthew Perry was on ''The West Wing'' in a fairly significant guest role.

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** In the ''West Wing'' episode "20 Hours in LA," Donna notices MatthewPerry Creator/MatthewPerry at a party. A few seasons later, Matthew Perry was on ''The West Wing'' in a fairly significant guest role.
18th Jan '18 4:01:19 AM jormis29
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** In an early episode, Jack mentions watching ''Series/{{Friends}}'' and asks about Ross and Rachel. Both David Schwimmer ("Ross") and Creator/JenniferAniston ("Rachel") later guest starred. And in an episode after Aniston's appearance, Jenna mentioned her (the actress, not the character).

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** In an early episode, Jack mentions watching ''Series/{{Friends}}'' and asks about Ross and Rachel. Both David Schwimmer Creator/DavidSchwimmer ("Ross") and Creator/JenniferAniston ("Rachel") later guest starred. And in an episode after Aniston's appearance, Jenna mentioned her (the actress, not the character).
10th Jan '18 11:33:04 AM narm00
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** Very early in the show, Hodgins comments to Zack--"Your robot is like you. You tell it to walk, it jumps. You tell it to jump, it rolls. You tell it to take out the garbage, it watches old reruns of ''Series/{{Firefly}}''." This is pre-Cam, who is played by Tamara Taylor, who has a bit part in [[Film/{{Serenity}} The Big Damn Movie]], but any Whedon reference in a show starring David Boreanez is amusing.

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** Very early in the show, Hodgins comments to Zack--"Your Zack -- "Your robot is like you. You tell it to walk, it jumps. You tell it to jump, it rolls. You tell it to take out the garbage, it watches old reruns of ''Series/{{Firefly}}''." This is pre-Cam, who is played by Tamara Taylor, who has a bit part in [[Film/{{Serenity}} The Big Damn Movie]], but any Whedon reference in a show starring David Boreanez is amusing.



** In Season 8's "Time of Your Life", The Doctor and Rose make a brief appearance. In "In Perfect Harmony" from the Season 9 comics, Creator/DavidTennant and Billie Piper appear.

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** In Season 8's "Time of Your Life", The the Tenth Doctor and Rose make a brief appearance. In "In Perfect Harmony" from the Season 9 comics, Creator/DavidTennant and Billie Piper Creator/BilliePiper appear.



** It's also implied that Martha has had at least some of the roles Susan Sullivan has had in real life, explicitly her role in ''TheIncredibleHulk'' pilot movie. Though Martha is an actress, so one can assume that in-universe she simply played all the roles that Susan Sullivan did.

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** It's also implied that Martha has had at least some of the roles Susan Sullivan has had in real life, explicitly her role in ''TheIncredibleHulk'' ''Series/TheIncredibleHulk'' pilot movie. Though Martha is an actress, so one can assume that in-universe she simply played all the roles that Susan Sullivan did.



** Since Castle seems to be familiar with ''Series/DesperateHousewives'', it would be interesting to know who played [[Creator/NathanFillion Adam]] and [[DanaDelany Katherine]] Mayfair in this universe.

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** Since Castle seems to be familiar with ''Series/DesperateHousewives'', it would be interesting to know who played [[Creator/NathanFillion Adam]] and [[DanaDelany [[Creator/DanaDelany Katherine]] Mayfair in this universe.



*** One wonders why he's never mentioned that Detective Slaughter looks a lot like the guy who played Jayne on Firefly.
** In the Michael Connelly novel ''The Drop'' Bosch's daughter mentioned watching episodes of Castle. One wonder's who Castle plays poker with in that version.

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*** One wonders why he's never mentioned that Detective Slaughter looks a lot like the guy who played Jayne on Firefly.
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** In the Michael Connelly novel ''The Drop'' Bosch's daughter mentioned watching episodes of Castle. One wonder's wonders who Castle plays poker with in that version.



** In "The Instincts", Rossi and Morgan are waiting for Reid in Reid's hotel room, where they're watching "The Young and The Restless". It's an obvious [[ActorAllusion allusion]] to Shemar Moore- who played Y&R's Malcolm Winters as well as CM's Morgan- but it raised an interesting conundrum: at the time the episode aired, no one else had played Winters and no one noticed Morgan's resemblance to him. This only leads to the question of who played Winters in the CM universe, since we never see anyone notice how similar Morgan looks to Winters.
** The show is also quite fond of hiring actors from ''{{Franchise/StarTrek}}'', including notable [=UnSub=] roles for Will Wheaton, Jonathan Frakes and Raphael Sbarge. However, in "The Big Game", we hear Reid discussing Star Trek with a bar patron, indicating that he is a fan of the series- yet, in "The Uncanny Valley", we see him in a room with Arthur Malcolm (played by Frakes) and he never notices the resemblance to Commander Riker. Yes, it may be true that Reid only referenced The Original Series in "The Big Game" indicating that he may only be a fan of the original, but we do also see him attend a cosplay convention in "Hit", so at the very least, he'd be familiar with the character of Riker.
** The show- as expected- makes constant references to famous serial killers of yesteryear, but not once do they reference the pioneers of criminal profiling itself, such as Robert Ressler or John Douglas. The show implies that the real life figures played no role in the BAU at all, in that the characters of the show- especially the grizzled veterans Rossi and Hotch- were the ones who really did all the work in establishing profiling as a legitimate crime fighting technique. Which leads to the question- do the real life "profilers" exist in other capacities, such as, perhaps, underlings to the show's BAU? Or are they absent from the show's universe entirely? The paradox gains another dimension when you learn that Ressler was the one who coined the term "serial killer", a term the show uses frequently- if Ressler does not exist, who created the term?

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** In "The Instincts", Rossi and Morgan are waiting for Reid in Reid's hotel room, where they're watching "The Young and The Restless". It's an obvious [[ActorAllusion allusion]] to Shemar Moore- Moore - who played Y&R's Malcolm Winters as well as CM's Morgan- Morgan - but it raised an interesting conundrum: at the time the episode aired, no one else had played Winters and no one noticed Morgan's resemblance to him. This only leads to the question of who played Winters in the CM universe, since we never see anyone notice how similar Morgan looks to Winters.
** The show is also quite fond of hiring actors from ''{{Franchise/StarTrek}}'', including notable [=UnSub=] roles for Will Wheaton, Jonathan Frakes and Raphael Sbarge. However, in "The Big Game", we hear Reid discussing Star Trek with a bar patron, indicating that he is a fan of the series- series - yet, in "The Uncanny Valley", we see him in a room with Arthur Malcolm (played by Frakes) and he never notices the resemblance to Commander Riker. Yes, it may be true that Reid only referenced The Original Series in "The Big Game" indicating that he may only be a fan of the original, but we do also see him attend a cosplay convention in "Hit", so at the very least, he'd be familiar with the character of Riker.
** The show- show - as expected- expected - makes constant references to famous serial killers of yesteryear, but not once do they reference the pioneers of criminal profiling itself, such as Robert Ressler or John Douglas. The show implies that the real life figures played no role in the BAU at all, in that the characters of the show- show - especially the grizzled veterans Rossi and Hotch- Hotch - were the ones who really did all the work in establishing profiling as a legitimate crime fighting technique. Which leads to the question- question - do the real life "profilers" exist in other capacities, such as, perhaps, underlings to the show's BAU? Or are they absent from the show's universe entirely? The paradox gains another dimension when you learn that Ressler was the one who coined the term "serial killer", a term the show uses frequently- frequently - if Ressler does not exist, who created the term?



** Just to further twist the self-reference, the original series episode [[Recap/DoctorWhoS25E1RemembranceOfTheDaleks "Remembrance of the Daleks"]] was set a few weeks after the TV show actually launched. (23rd November, 1963) Ace, the companion, turns on a TV, and the announcer is briefly heard saying, "This is BBC Television, the time is quarter past five, and Saturday viewing continues with an adventure in the new science fiction series, Do-" before it is cut off.

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** Just to further twist the self-reference, the original series episode story [[Recap/DoctorWhoS25E1RemembranceOfTheDaleks "Remembrance of the Daleks"]] was set a few weeks after the TV show actually launched. (23rd November, 1963) Ace, the companion, turns on a TV, and the announcer is briefly heard saying, "This is BBC Television, the time is quarter past five, and Saturday viewing continues with an adventure in the new science fiction series, Do-" before it is cut off.



*** In what would also count as an in-universe paradox, if all of Superman's media appearances exist, then that would included the video game ''VideoGame/LegoDimensions'' - in which the Twelfth Doctor himself is also a playable character. Is your head starting to hurt yet?

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*** In what would also count as an in-universe paradox, if all of Superman's media appearances exist, then that would included include the video game ''VideoGame/LegoDimensions'' - in which the Twelfth Doctor himself is also a playable character. Is your head starting to hurt yet?
7th Jan '18 3:09:59 AM jormis29
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* In the remake of ''Series/FantasyIsland'', Dean Cain plays a lawyer suspected of murder. The travel agent is called to the witness box and describes the lawyer as resembling 'the guy that played [[Series/LoisAndClark Superman on TV]]'.

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* In the remake of ''Series/FantasyIsland'', Dean Cain Creator/DeanCain plays a lawyer suspected of murder. The travel agent is called to the witness box and describes the lawyer as resembling 'the guy that played [[Series/LoisAndClark Superman on TV]]'.
6th Jan '18 9:26:32 PM nombretomado
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** An even weirder example was seen when [[TheJeffersons George and Louise Jefferson]] make a couple of appearances...despite earlier episodes having established ''The Jeffersons'' as being a fictional show in the ''Fresh Prince'' universe... AND Sherman Hemsley having ALREADY made several appearances as [[YouLookFamiliar an entirely different character]] who at one point made an ActorAllusion joke.

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** An even weirder example was seen when [[TheJeffersons [[Series/TheJeffersons George and Louise Jefferson]] make a couple of appearances...despite earlier episodes having established ''The Jeffersons'' as being a fictional show in the ''Fresh Prince'' universe... AND Sherman Hemsley having ALREADY made several appearances as [[YouLookFamiliar an entirely different character]] who at one point made an ActorAllusion joke.
4th Jan '18 1:28:57 PM corranh96
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** Cameos by [[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration Wil Wheaton]], [[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration Brent Spiner]], [[Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries George Takei]], [[Series/BattlestarGalactica2003 Katee Sackhoff]], [[Series/{{Firefly}} Summer Glau and Nathan Fillion]], all playing themselves. Michael Trucco appears as a visiting physicist, no one mentions how much he looks like [[Series/BattlestarGalactica2003 Sam Anders]]. Raj's father looks like [[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine Dr Bashir's]] father.

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** Cameos by [[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration Wil Wheaton]], [[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration Brent Spiner]], [[Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries George Takei]], [[Series/BattlestarGalactica2003 Katee Sackhoff]], [[Series/{{Firefly}} Summer Glau and Nathan Fillion]], all playing themselves. Michael Trucco appears as a visiting physicist, no one mentions how much he looks like [[Series/BattlestarGalactica2003 Sam Anders]]. Raj's father looks like [[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine Dr Bashir's]] father. Raj also doesn't notice he's dating Zoe from Series/{{Caprica}}.
13th Dec '17 3:29:22 PM TheRedRedKroovy
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* In the TV movie "Series/{{Degrassi}} Takes Manhattan," a TVM reporter mentions an interview with rap superstar Drake, who originally became famous for the role of Jimmy Brooks on ''Degrassi: The Next Generation''.
** The previous film, ''Degrassi Goes Hollywood'' mentions meeting Shenae Grimes at a ''90210'' after party. Who appeared in that season playing Darcy Edwards for the last time.
** The pilot of ''[[Series/{{Degrassi}} Degrassi: Next Class]]'' begins with Maya quoting the song "Started from the Bottom" by Music/{{Drake}} -- who is not only a former ''Degrassi'' cast member himself (he was credited by his real name, Aubrey Graham, during his run on the show), but is probably the most famous of them all. Likely a deliberate MythologyGag.*

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* ''Series/{{Degrassi}}'':
** There have been numerous references made to Music/{{Drake}}, who played Jimmy Brooks on the show (credited under his real name Aubrey Graham) and is arguably the most famous former cast member, likely as a MythologyGag.
In the TV movie "Series/{{Degrassi}} ''Degrassi Takes Manhattan," Manhattan'', a TVM reporter mentions an interview with rap superstar Drake, who originally became famous for the role Drake. The pilot of Jimmy Brooks on ''Degrassi: The Next Generation''.
Class'' also begins with Maya quoting Drake's song "Started from the Bottom".
** The previous film, ''Degrassi Goes Hollywood'' Hollywood'', mentions meeting Shenae Grimes at a ''90210'' after party. Who appeared in that season playing Darcy Edwards for the last time.
** The pilot of ''[[Series/{{Degrassi}} Degrassi: Next Class]]'' begins with Maya quoting the song "Started from the Bottom" by Music/{{Drake}} -- who is not only a former ''Degrassi'' cast member himself (he was credited by his real name, Aubrey Graham, during his run on the show), but is probably the most famous of them all. Likely a deliberate MythologyGag.*
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* On ''Series/DiagnosisMurder'', Amanda Bentley has a Contest Winner Cameo on ''Series/TheYoungAndTheRestless'' and both her colleagues at the hospital and the crew of [=YatR=] comment on her resemblance to Victoria Rowell, who actually was a regular cast member of that series.

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* On ''Series/DiagnosisMurder'', Amanda Bentley has a Contest Winner Cameo on ''Series/TheYoungAndTheRestless'' and both her colleagues at the hospital and the crew of [=YatR=] ''[=YatR=]'' comment on her resemblance to Victoria Rowell, who actually was a regular cast member of that series.
10th Dec '17 5:56:21 PM nombretomado
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** In the episode [[Recap/DoctorWhoS28E12ArmyOfGhosts "Army of Ghosts"]], ''Series/EastEnders'' exists as a fictional television series. The character of Peggy Mitchell bars a ghost she presumes to be Den Watts from The Queen Vic. In the real ''EastEnders'', Watts was killed by his wife Chrissie, who is played by Tracy-Ann Oberman, who appears in "Army of Ghosts" as Yvonne Hartman.

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** In the episode [[Recap/DoctorWhoS28E12ArmyOfGhosts "Army of Ghosts"]], ''Series/EastEnders'' exists as a fictional television series. The character of Peggy Mitchell bars a ghost she presumes to be Den Watts from The Queen Vic. In the real ''EastEnders'', ''[=EastEnders=]'', Watts was killed by his wife Chrissie, who is played by Tracy-Ann Oberman, who appears in "Army of Ghosts" as Yvonne Hartman.
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