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* Heroic example on ''Series/MarvelsAgentsOfSHIELD'': A villain explains the origin of his vendetta as being from one of Phil Coulson's previous operations. While Coulson does remember the mission itself, he does not remember the details of why he did it nor does he care because for him it was just another day of saving the world.
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** In "Walk of Punishment", Arya asks the Hound, "Do you remember what happened the last time you were here?" outside the inn near where he rode down her friend Mycah twenty-one episodes before in "The Kingsroad", but he has no idea what she's talking about.
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-->'''Matt:''' You don't remember me? You killed my father.

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*** First, "Margaret Blaine" [[Recap/DoctorWhoS27E11BoomTown challenges the Doctor's moral authority]]:

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*** First, the Slitheen posing as "Margaret Blaine" [[Recap/DoctorWhoS27E11BoomTown challenges the Doctor's moral authority]]:



* ''Series/TheWire'': Avon Barksdale, the BigBad of the Barksdale Organization, and his [[TheBrute Brute]] Wee-Bey have a darkly comedic version. At the end of the show's first season, they're both sent to jail. In the second season, a corrupt prison guard named Tilghman spends a great deal of time harassing Wee-Bey, and then brusquely refuses Avon's attempt to make a deal, which ''no one'' does to Avon. Eventually Wee-Bey hears the reason why Tilghman won't let up on Wee-Bey: Tilghman is related to someone that Wee-Bey killed on Avon's orders. Avon doesn't remember a thing about it, not even when Wee-Bey starts trying to supply details to jog his memory. (By the time Avon and Wee-Bey are in jail, their organization is responsible around twenty murders in the past two years alone. Is it any wonder Avon can't remember them all?)
-->'''Avon:''' What's up with this motherfucker?\\
'''Wee-Bey:''' You remember [=LaDonte=]? ''[Avon squints in confusion]'' Burner from over in the Poe Homes, finally caught him over in the parking lot after school?\\
'''Avon:''' ''We'' did that?\\
'''Wee-Bey:''' Tilghman is [=LaDonte's=] cousin or some such. He found out I ate the charge for killing him, now he busting my chops.\\
'''Avon:''' [=LaDonte=]? ''[shakes head in confusion]'' I can't even remember that one. Need a scorecard to keep up with your lethal ass.
** Ironically enough, Wee-Bey may not even have been responsible for that crime. When Bey was caught, his lawyer got the prosecutor to agree to take the death penalty off the table in exchange for a full confession...and Bey then tried to take responsibility for ''every'' killing ever committed by anyone in the Barksdale gang. While the cops knew that some of those were committed by others, who knows how many crimes Bey "ate the charge" for that he didn't commit. [=LaDonte's=] murder could have been one of those.

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* ''Series/TheWire'': Avon Barksdale, the BigBad head of the Barksdale Organization, and his [[TheBrute Brute]] enforcer]] Wee-Bey Brice have a darkly comedic version. At the end of the show's first season, they're both sent to jail. In the second season, While in jail in season 2, a corrupt prison guard named Dwight Tilghman spends a great deal of time harassing Wee-Bey, and then brusquely refuses Avon's attempt to make a deal, which ''no one'' does to Avon. Eventually Wee-Bey hears the reason why Tilghman won't let up on Wee-Bey: him: Tilghman is related to someone that Wee-Bey killed on Avon's orders. Avon doesn't remember a thing about it, not even when Wee-Bey starts trying to supply details to jog his memory. (By the time Avon and Wee-Bey are in jail, their organization is responsible for around twenty murders in the past two years alone. Is it any wonder Avon can't remember them all?)
-->'''Avon:''' -->'''Avon Barksdale:''' What's up with this motherfucker?\\
'''Wee-Bey:''' '''Wee-Bey Brice:''' You remember [=LaDonte=]? ''[Avon squints in confusion]'' Burner from over in the Poe Homes, finally caught him over in the parking lot after school?\\
'''Avon:''' '''Avon Barksdale:''' ''We'' did that?\\
'''Wee-Bey:''' '''Wee-Bey Brice:''' Tilghman is [=LaDonte's=] cousin or some such. He found out I ate the charge for killing him, now he busting my chops.\\
'''Avon:''' '''Avon Barksdale:''' [=LaDonte=]? ''[shakes head in confusion]'' I can't even remember that one. Need a scorecard to keep up with your lethal ass.
** Ironically enough, Wee-Bey may not even have been responsible for that crime. When Bey Wee-Bey was caught, his lawyer got the prosecutor to agree to take the death penalty off the table in exchange for a full confession...and Bey Wee-Bey then tried to take responsibility for ''every'' killing ever committed by anyone in the Barksdale gang. While the cops knew definitely know that some of those were committed by others, who knows it's never made clear how many crimes Bey "ate murders Wee-Bey took the charge" for that he didn't commit.fall for. [=LaDonte's=] murder could have been one of those.
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* ''Series/TheLibrarians'': From the episode "[[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4447420/?ref_=tt_eps_cu_n And The Drowned Book]]"

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* In ''Series/{{Daredevil}}'', when main character Matt Murdock is put face to face to his father's killer by Elektra, he is surprised when the man doesn't even remember who he is, and only does so after he hits the man in the face repeatedly, and outright tells him his father was a boxer.

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* In ''Series/{{Daredevil}}'', ''Series/Daredevil2015'', when main character Matt Murdock is put face to face to his father's killer by thanks to Elektra, he is surprised when the man Roscoe Sweeney doesn't even remember who he is, and only does so after he hits the man Sweeney in the face repeatedly, and outright tells him his father was a boxer.
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** Subverted with Angelus, who generally ''does'' remember his victims, but if anything this is used to highlight his evil. At one point Angel and Spike contrast their approaches as evil vampires. Spike loved the act of killing and never thought twice about the victims, so he's forgotten a lot of them, while Angelus was interested in the suffering and destruction of a human being on a personal level.

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** Subverted with Angelus, who generally ''does'' remember his victims, but if anything this is used to highlight his evil. At one point Angel and Spike contrast their approaches as evil vampires. Spike loved the act of fighting and killing and never thought twice about the victims, so he's forgotten a lot of them, while Angelus was interested in the suffering and destruction of a human being on a personal level.
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* ''Series/Underground: In the episode "Firefly", John Macon says this about Josey, a runaway slave: "the worst day of that man's life was just another Tuesday in the office for me." Subverted in a sense because this isn't a villain being indifferent to his victims' suffering but a cause of shame, guilt and motivation to do good for him.

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* ''Series/Underground: ''Series/{{Underground}}'': In the episode "Firefly", John Macon says this about Josey, a runaway slave: "the worst day of that man's life was just another Tuesday in the office for me." Subverted in a sense because this isn't a villain being indifferent to his victims' suffering but a cause of shame, guilt and motivation to do good for him.

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* In ''Series/WolfHall'', Thoms Cromwell needs men to convict as lovers of Anne Boleyn, so he picks men who (among other, more personal reasons) are "guilty, though not necessarily as charged." One of them is Will Brereton, whose family holdings are in Wales, and Cromwell brings up the a years-ago bowls match in which someone got killed. Brereton's response is a blithe "the game can get very heated."

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* In ''Series/WolfHall'', Thoms Cromwell needs men to convict as lovers of Anne Boleyn, so he picks men who (among other, more personal reasons) are "guilty, though not necessarily as charged." One of them is Will Brereton, whose family holdings are in Wales, and who flouts the law on his Welsh holdings. When Cromwell brings up the a years-ago bowls match an incident in which someone got killed. Brereton's response is Brereton blocked efforts to prosecute a blithe member of his household who killed a man over lawn bowling, Brereton blithely says "the game can get very heated." Cromwell alludes to this when he continues onto a later incident.
-->"You think no one remembers, but ''I'' remember."
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* ''Series/InspectorMorse''. In "The Day of the Devil", a serial rapist escapes from prison by hiding in the trunk of his female psychiatrist, then tracks down several other people and murders them [[spoiler:before being shot by police. By that point Morse has discovered the psychiatrist has engineered the whole thing. She was one of the women raped by his gang, but as he had no empathy for his victims he never bothered to remember her. She used her position to convince him the other members of his gang had been responsible for his capture by police.]]
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* In ''Series/WolfHall'', Thoms Cromwell needs men to convict as lovers of Anne Boleyn, so he picks men who (among other, more personal reasons) are "guilty, though not necessarily as charged." One of them is Will Brereton, whose family holdings are in Wales, and Cromwell brings up the a years-ago bowls match in which someone got killed. Brereton's response is a blithe "the game can get very heated."

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Angel recognized Holtz immediately more than 200 years later. Angelus might not have thought it important, but he certainly remembered it.


* ''Series/{{Angel}}'': An odd example: the demon Sahjhan spends a good chunk of the third season working against Angel, but when the two finally meet, Angel has no idea why Sahjhan hates him, driving the latter to disappear in fury. Of course, Angel was a bit justified in this: Sahjhan's beef was a ''future'' event that Sahjhan knew about from a prophecy. [[spoiler:A prophecy that he had even ''rewritten himself'' centuries before, so it was basically impossible for Angel to know about it]]. Granted, existing outside of time might mess with his perceptions a bit, but, really, Sahjhan's expectations just seem a little high.
** Played straight with Daniel Holtz, whose children were just two more run-of-the-mill victims for Angelus.

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An odd example: the demon Sahjhan spends a good chunk of the third season working against Angel, but when the two finally meet, Angel has no idea why Sahjhan hates him, driving the latter to disappear in fury. Of course, Angel was a bit justified in this: Sahjhan's beef was a ''future'' event that Sahjhan knew about from a prophecy. [[spoiler:A prophecy that he had even ''rewritten himself'' centuries before, so it was basically impossible for Angel to know about it]]. Granted, existing outside of time might mess with his perceptions a bit, but, really, Sahjhan's expectations just seem a little high.
** Played straight Subverted with Daniel Holtz, whose children were just two more run-of-the-mill victims for Angelus.Angelus, who generally ''does'' remember his victims, but if anything this is used to highlight his evil. At one point Angel and Spike contrast their approaches as evil vampires. Spike loved the act of killing and never thought twice about the victims, so he's forgotten a lot of them, while Angelus was interested in the suffering and destruction of a human being on a personal level.
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* ''Series/{{Mad Men}}'': Following an ad pitch where Don Draper chooses to show off his own idea over Ginsberg's:
-->'''Ginsberg:''' What do I care? I got a million of them. A million.
-->'''Draper:''' Good, I guess I’m lucky you work for me.
-->'''Ginsberg:''' I feel bad for you.
-->'''Draper:''' I don’t think about you at all.
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* Inverted in ''Series/{{Slasher}}''. When [[BigBad the Executioner]] reveals to Sarah that [[spoiler:he's been obsessed with her ever since they first met when she was a teenager]], Sarah replies that she has no memory of it and for her it was just a Saturday. She does, however, remember [[AndThisIsFor all the people murdered by the Executioner]].

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* ''Series/{{Angel}}'': An odd example: the demon Sahjahn spends a good chunk of the third season working against Angel, but when the two finally meet, Angel has no idea why Sahjahn hates him, driving the latter to disappear in fury. Of course, Angel was a bit justified in this: Sahjahn's beef was a ''future'' event that Sahjahn knew about from a prophecy. [[spoiler:A prophecy that he had even ''rewritten himself'' centuries before, so it was basically impossible for Angel to know about it]]. Granted, existing outside of time might mess with his perceptions a bit, but, really, Sahjahn's expectations just seem a little high.
** Played straight with Holtz, whose children were just two more run-of-the-mill victims for Angelus.

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* ''Series/{{Angel}}'': An odd example: the demon Sahjahn Sahjhan spends a good chunk of the third season working against Angel, but when the two finally meet, Angel has no idea why Sahjahn Sahjhan hates him, driving the latter to disappear in fury. Of course, Angel was a bit justified in this: Sahjahn's Sahjhan's beef was a ''future'' event that Sahjahn Sahjhan knew about from a prophecy. [[spoiler:A prophecy that he had even ''rewritten himself'' centuries before, so it was basically impossible for Angel to know about it]]. Granted, existing outside of time might mess with his perceptions a bit, but, really, Sahjahn's Sahjhan's expectations just seem a little high.
** Played straight with Daniel Holtz, whose children were just two more run-of-the-mill victims for Angelus.



*** This happens often with Spike in season 7 of ''Buffy'' and season 5 of ''Angel''. He'll be honestly trying to help someone, and the rescuee wants nothing to do with him because he murdered their family--something Spike has no memory of.
*** In a different subversion, Spike is captured and tortured by a crazed Slayer who believes that Spike killed her parents. It is later confirmed that Spike was not responsible, but it doesn't make him feel any better about it, since he's killed so many people that it's not much of a consolation that he wasn't responsible for these ''particular'' deaths.

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of. In a different subversion, Spike is captured and tortured by a crazed Slayer who believes that Spike killed her parents. It is later confirmed that one case, Spike was not ''not'' responsible, but it doesn't make him feel any better about it, since he's killed so many people that it's not much of a consolation that he wasn't responsible for these ''particular'' deaths.
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* ''Series/{{Gotham}}'': When Bruce Wayne [[spoiler:finally comes face-to-face with his parents' killer, the guy doesn't even remember killing them until Bruce jogs his memory by filling in some of the details.]]
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* ''Series/Underground: In the episode "Firefly", John Macon says this about Josey, a runaway slave: "the worst day of that man's life was just another Tuesday in the office for me." Subverted in a sense because this isn't a villain being indifferent to his victims' suffering but a moment of shame for me.

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* ''Series/Underground: In the episode "Firefly", John Macon says this about Josey, a runaway slave: "the worst day of that man's life was just another Tuesday in the office for me." Subverted in a sense because this isn't a villain being indifferent to his victims' suffering but a moment cause of shame shame, guilt and motivation to do good for me. him.
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* ''Series/Underground: In the episode "Firefly", John Macon says this about Josey, a runaway slave: "the worst day of that man's life was just another Tuesday in the office for me." Subverted in a sense because this isn't a villain being indifferent to his victims' suffering but a moment of shame for me.
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-->'''"Matt":''' You don't remember me? You killed my father.
-->'''"Roscoe Sweeney":''' Well I hate to break it to you son, but I killed a lot of guys' dads.

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* In ''Series/{{Daredevil}}'', when main character Matt Murdock is put face to face to his father's killer by Elektra, he is surprised when the man doesn't even remember who he is, and only does so after he hits the man in the face repeatedly, and outright tells him his father was a boxer.
-->'''"Matt":''' You don't remember me? You killed my father.
-->'''"Roscoe Sweeney":''' Well I hate to break it to you son, but I killed a lot of guys' dads.
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** Occurs to Ashildr, aka Me, an immortal girl with [[JustifiedTrope a normal sized memory]].
---->'''Doctor:''' How many people have you killed?\\
'''Ashildr:''' You'll have to check my diaries.
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** The episode "One More Unto The Breach" reveals that Martok was denied an officer's rank by Kor. Martok holds a grudge against Kor for this for years, but Kor doesn't remember the specific incident.

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** The episode "One More Unto The Breach" reveals that Martok was denied an officer's rank by Kor.Kor because Martok was common-blood. Martok holds a grudge against Kor for this for years, but Kor doesn't remember the specific incident.
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* On ''Series/{{Lucifer]],'' a pick-up artist who regularly lectures on how best to bed a woman finds himself falling in love with one for real. When she's kidnapped, he begs Lucifer to save her only to find she set the kidnapping up. It turns out she fell for his lines ''two years'' earlier and gave up her virginity to him but he never called her back. When she heard of his act, she went to see him only to realize that he literally didn't remember her. She thus decided to get him to fall in love with her for some payback and it escalated. Unlike many in this trope, the pick-up artist is deeply shaken to realize he slept with so many women he could forget the one he eventually fell for.

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* On ''Series/{{Lucifer]],'' ''Series/{{Lucifer}},'' a pick-up artist who regularly lectures on how best to bed a woman finds himself falling in love with one for real. When she's kidnapped, he begs Lucifer to save her only to find she set the kidnapping up. It turns out she fell for his lines ''two years'' earlier and gave up her virginity to him but he never called her back. When she heard of his act, she went to see him only to realize that he literally didn't remember her. She thus decided to get him to fall in love with her for some payback and it escalated. Unlike many in this trope, the pick-up artist is deeply shaken to realize he slept with so many women he could forget the one he eventually fell for.
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* On ''Series/{{Lucifer]],'' a pick-up artist who regularly lectures on how best to bed a woman finds himself falling in love with one for real. When she's kidnapped, he begs Lucifer to save her only to find she set the kidnapping up. It turns out she fell for his lines ''two years'' earlier and gave up her virginity to him but he never called her back. When she heard of his act, she went to see him only to realize that he literally didn't remember her. She thus decided to get him to fall in love with her for some payback and it escalated. Unlike many in this trope, the pick-up artist is deeply shaken to realize he slept with so many women he could forget the one he eventually fell for.
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* A positive example from ''Series/LegendsOfTomorrow'': [[ComicBook/TheAtom Ray Palmer]] tells [[ComicBook/{{Firestorm}} Professor Martin Stein]] that he used to be one of his students and his shocked to find that Stein doesn't remember him. Stein later explains to Ray that he had so many exceptional students that he could never hope to remember all of them.

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* A positive example from ''Series/LegendsOfTomorrow": [[ComicBook/TheAtom Ray Palmer]] tells [[ComicBook/{{Firestorm}} Professor Martin Stein]] that he used to be one of his students and his shocked to find that Stein doesn't remember him. Stein later explains to Ray that he had so many exceptional students that he could never hope to remember all of them.

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* ''Series/MysteryScienceTheater3000'': In the episode "The Brain That Wouldn't Die", the film opens in an operating room, prompting Mike to snark: "Just a normal Tuesday for Cher".

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* Quite often, the marks on ''Series/Leverage'' are totally unaware of the amount of lives they've destroyed. In some cases, team will use either the names or even the actual people who have been ripped off and lost most everything as part of their revenge con and the crooks honestly have no idea who all these names are.

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** In the fifth season, Regina is posing as the Savior while in Camelot but one knight remembers her as his entire village and family were wiped out by Regina's troops long ago. While she's thrown, Regina obviously doesn't remember the incident at all.
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* Quite often, the marks on ''Series/Leverage'' are totally unaware of the amount of lives they've destroyed. Quite often, the team will use either the names or even the actual people who have been ripped off and lost most everything and the crooks honestly have no idea who all these names are.

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** Trevor Noah, November 30, 2015: "Ah, Black Friday. Or, as we call it back in Africa, Friday."

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