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24th Jul '16 3:41:26 AM ZombieAladdin
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** Electromechanical machines vs. solid-state machines. During the late 70's, advances in computer technology allowed pinball machines to have computer processors and memory storage inside, allowing for pre-recorded audio, digital displays, and more complex rules. This put a wedge among pinball fans that exists to this day due to the starkly different ways pinball machines play based on their electronic components. That being said, the divide has somewhat melted away over the decades, with only the hardest of the hardcore refusing to accept both kinds.
12th Jul '16 5:39:45 PM LucaEarlgrey
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* Whether "GIF" (as in the file format) should be pronounced "jif" (as in the peanut butter brand) or "gif" (with 'g' being pronunced like the 'g' in "garden"). Proponents of the former argue for it because [[WordOfGod the creators say so]], while proponents of the latter point out that "GIF" stands for "'''G'''raphics '''I'''nterchangable '''F'''ormat" and pronouncing it "jif" would be like trying to pronounce "graphics" as "jraffics".

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* Whether "GIF" (as in the (the file format) format that's used today for animated image files) should be pronounced "jif" (as in the peanut butter brand) or "gif" (with 'g' being pronunced like the 'g' in "garden"). Proponents of the former argue for it because [[WordOfGod the creators say so]], while proponents of the latter point out that "GIF" stands for "'''G'''raphics '''I'''nterchangable '''F'''ormat" and pronouncing it "jif" would be like trying to pronounce "graphics" as "jraffics".
12th Jul '16 5:39:12 PM LucaEarlgrey
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* Whether "GIF" (as in the file format) should be pronounced "jif" (as in the peanut butter brand) or "gif" (with 'g' being pronunced like the 'g' in "garden"). Proponents of the former argue for it because [[WordOfGod the creators say so]], while proponents of the latter point out that "GIF" stands for "'''G'''raphics '''I'''nterchangable '''F'''ormat" and pronouncing it "jif" would be like trying to pronounce "graphics" as "jraffics".
9th Jul '16 11:06:14 AM nombretomado
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* ''HeroFactory'' vs ''Franchise/{{Bionicle}}'', since the former is a replacement for the latter.

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* ''HeroFactory'' vs ''Franchise/{{Bionicle}}'', ''Toys/{{Bionicle}}'', since the former is a replacement for the latter.
29th Jun '16 10:12:54 AM longWriter
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** Windows 10 is either "[[SurprisinglyImprovedSequel Windows 8 but with less suck]] and free[[note]]for the first year of 10's release[[/note]]" or [[StopHelpingMe "that upgrade that Microsoft kept shoving down my throat so now I hate it so much"]].

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** Windows 10 is either "[[SurprisinglyImprovedSequel Windows 8 but with less suck]] and free[[note]]for the first year of 10's release[[/note]]" or [[StopHelpingMe [[UnwantedAssistance "that upgrade that Microsoft kept shoving down my throat so now I hate it so much"]].
24th Mar '16 1:53:46 AM LucaEarlgrey
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* Photographers and photography:
** Canon or Nikon cameras: which is the absolute best?
** Black and white vs colour: one side points to the impact of monochrome, and questions why any photographer worth the name would want to use anything else; the other side points to the fact that we see in colour, and that the technical issues with colour fidelity and dynamic range were resolved years ago.

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* Photographers and photography:
** Canon or Nikon cameras: which is the absolute best?
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Black and white vs colour: colour photography: one side points to the impact of monochrome, and questions why any photographer worth the name would want to use anything else; the other side points to the fact that we see in colour, and that the technical issues with colour fidelity and dynamic range were resolved years ago.
17th Mar '16 11:38:56 PM LucaEarlgrey
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** Windows 10 is either [[SurprisinglyImprovedSequel "Windows 8 but better"]] or [[StopHelpingMe "that upgrade that Microsoft kept shoving down my throat so now I hate it so much"]].

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** Windows 10 is either [[SurprisinglyImprovedSequel "Windows "[[SurprisinglyImprovedSequel Windows 8 but better"]] with less suck]] and free[[note]]for the first year of 10's release[[/note]]" or [[StopHelpingMe "that upgrade that Microsoft kept shoving down my throat so now I hate it so much"]].
12th Mar '16 11:13:29 PM LucaEarlgrey
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** Windows 10 is either "Windows 8 but better" or "that upgrade that Microsoft kept shoving down my throat so now I hate it so much."

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** Windows 10 is either [[SurprisinglyImprovedSequel "Windows 8 but better" better"]] or [[StopHelpingMe "that upgrade that Microsoft kept shoving down my throat so now I hate it so much."much"]].
22nd Feb '16 8:11:47 AM LucaEarlgrey
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** Windows 10 is either "Windows 8 but better" or "that upgrade that Microsoft kept shoving down my throat so now I hate it so much."
18th Feb '16 7:32:41 PM ZombieAladdin
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* As niche as {{pinball}} is, it has its share of disagreements and dispute that will likely never be resolved peacefully:
** The quality of Creator/{{Stern}}'s machines as compared to [[Creator/WilliamsElectronics Williams]] and [[Creator/MidwayGames Bally]]. There are those who insist that the Williams and Bally games of the 90's were pinball perfected and that Stern's machines are devoid of heart and of low manufacturing quality. There are those who say that Stern is just as good as the best pinball companies of the past. And there are a few, most notably Ed Robertson of Music/BarenakedLadies, who say Stern stands heads and shoulders above the best Williams and Bally had to offer. This mostly falls in line with when someone got into pinball, namely what machines they started playing in (though there are definitely exceptions, such as Robertson). The rise of more competitors, like Creator/JerseyJackPinball, Heighway Pinball, and [[Pinball/AmericasMostHaunted Spooky Pinball]] has dissolved this conflict into something tangled and unrecognizable, as no one seems clear on where these new manufacturers stand as far as Stern vs. Bally-Williams is concerned.
** ''Pinball/BramStokersDracula'' is a LoveItOrHateIt machine due to its focus on competitive multiplayer and its rewarding of expert-level play, with not much else. It creates a greater divisive response than any other machine when brought into a competition, even among top-level players.
** Dot-matrix displays vs. monitors. As of the mid-2010's, pinball is in a transitional phase due to the cheapening costs of monitors. There are some who say that a monitor can do everything a DMD can do but better, and it attracts passers-by better when the machine is out in public. And there are some who say that they're unimpressed with what has been done with monitors so far and prefer the retro look a dot-matrix display has. Dutch Pinball seems to sit squarely in the middle: ''The Big Lebowski'', their debut game, has a monitor, but with visuals displayed in dots like a dot-matrix display.
** Incandescent lights vs. [=LEDs=]. Some people prefer the warm yellowish glow of incandescent lights and how they fade in and out, whereas others prefer the brighter [=LEDs=] and how they're cheaper, longer-lasting, consume less power, and come in every imaginable color (and some can even change color). This dispute has only intensified not only because [=LEDs=] have become an industry standard (even the ''Pinball/MedievalMadness'' remake uses [=LEDs=], whereas the original used incandescents), but because the United States, where most pinball machines are created and manufactured, is required to halt incandescent production by 2020.
** Modding vs. non-modding. Some people prefer their pinball machines to look like how they were when they were made, and some want to add more stuff onto them. This is mostly a non-issue among what people ''should'' do with their machines, but it pops up mainly in regards to modded machines being re-sold: Some people get very upset if a machine they intended to buy turns out to be modded.
** The pricing of the remake for ''Pinball/SpiderManStern'', at US$8,000. The original release cost US$3,500. Some are saying that this is an acceptable price because of the improved durability, new artwork, inflation since 2007, and increased demand for pinball since 2007. Some are saying that a price increase this big is unacceptable. And some are assuming Stern is pricing based on the used market (the original version, if in a decent condition, always sells for higher than it was originally worth) and are worried about the prices of future releases.
** ''Pinball/WhoaNellieBigJuicyMelons'' has created flame wars all over the Internet on two fronts: The first is its thoroughly misogynistic artwork, featuring [[BuxomIsBetter buxom]] daughters of a farmer and men all over the playfield gawking at her. There are some people who are disgusted and revolted at this artwork (men and women alike), and there are people who love it. The other front is its price: It is a PaletteSwap of a machine from 40 years ago (''Continental'', to be precise), meaning it has a simple layout, simple rules, and is electronically simple inside, but at US$6,500, is more expensive than modern-looking games with modern gameplay and audio.
** Playing for points vs. playing for content. Before the 1980's, this was a non-issue, as pinball machines [[NoPlotNoProblem had no plot to begin with]], but starting with ''Pinball/BlackKnight'', pinball now had stories, challenges to be overcome, villains to be defeated, and days to be saved. The matter of contention here comes from how people want to play pinball: Some just want to go for the highest score possible, and some want to get to the end of the story and see everything the machine has to offer, which are not always the same thing. In fact, due to the risk of getting a GameOver before you get to the end, playing for score and playing for story are ''rarely'' the same thing.
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