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** TheMutiny: did the right side win?
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** Then there's the Buffy/Angel fans vs. the Buffy/Spike fans, and even a few loons who are Buffy/Riley fans.

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** Then there's the Buffy/Angel fans vs. the Buffy/Spike fans, and even a few loons those who are Buffy/Riley fans.

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* ''{{Victorious}}'': Tori Vega has a nature of tending to act out on others, and she has done things such as kiss other characters' boyfriends, [[WhatAnIdiot as well as not keep her mouth shut even when asked, which at one point caused Beck and herself to lose a small part in a movie]]. Because of this, some people see her as an unbearable [[JerkSue Jerk Sue]] who makes them want to throw something at the TV every time she gets her way, but others consider her a different step from the likes of previous main characters from Dan's shows. And let's not forget that she was the only girl on the show who got a chance to sing for a while.

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* ''{{Victorious}}'': Tori Vega has a nature of tending to act out on others, and she has done things such as kiss other characters' boyfriends, [[WhatAnIdiot as well as not keep her mouth shut even when asked, which at one point caused Beck and herself to lose a small part in a movie]].movie, the latter [[KarmaHoudini without any comeuppance whatsoever]]. Because of this, some people see her as an unbearable [[JerkSue Jerk Sue]] who makes them want to throw something at the TV every time she gets her way, but others consider her a different step from the likes of previous main characters from Dan's shows. And let's not forget that she was the only girl on the show who got a chance to sing for a while.while.
** Likewise, as far as the whole show goes, for Season 2, some fans think it has so far been even better than Season 1, while others (mostly people on the Victorious Wiki) think the show as a whole has been [[Understatement getting worse]], [[HateDumb sometimes for unusual reasons]], since Beck's Big Break and Cat's New Boyfriend, with little signs of improvement.
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* Season 4 of TheCW[=/=]{{BET}}'s ''TheGame''. The lack of the comedic characters Tee Tee, Tasha, Jason, And Kelly didn't help.

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* ''TheWestWing'' fandom can be divided into two groups: the people who refuse to consider seasons 5-7 canon on the basis that the changes were utterly ridiculous and crapped all over everything seasons 1-4 stood for, and the people who think the changes in season 5-7 were logical and consisted of CharacterDevelopment instead of CharacterDerailment. Interestingly, the former group is ''not'' a militant purist fringe group, and may possibly represent a ''majority'' of fans (though probably not a majority of casual viewers). Also, there isn't much in-fighting between the two groups, since even the latter group agree that seasons 5-7 were subpar — they just aren't willing to eject them from canon.
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* ''{{Carly}}'' has the Seddie vs Creddie war. Whilst {{Shipping}} tends to do this anyway, this Sam/Freddie vs Carly/Freddie divide slowly built up during season 1, then went [[ShippingWars nuclear]] halfway through the 2nd season as of the ''iKiss'' episode which had Sam and Freddie share a FirstKiss. ItGotWorse from there. The 2 shipping factions have their own exclusive forums, the fandom as a complete 'whole' doesn't exist any more, as the size of the Seddie fandom swamps and over-runs any integrated community super quickly.

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* ''{{Carly}}'' ''{{iCarly}}'' has the Seddie vs Creddie war. Whilst {{Shipping}} tends to do this anyway, this Sam/Freddie vs Carly/Freddie divide slowly built up during season 1, then went [[ShippingWars nuclear]] halfway through the 2nd season as of the ''iKiss'' episode which had Sam and Freddie share a FirstKiss. ItGotWorse from there. The 2 shipping factions have their own exclusive forums, the fandom as a complete 'whole' doesn't exist any more, as the size of the Seddie fandom swamps and over-runs any integrated community super quickly.

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* Whilst {{Shipping}} tends to do this anyway, the Seddie vs Creddie divide in the ''{{iCarly}}'' fandom slowly built up during season 1, then went [[ShippingWars nuclear]] halfway through the 2nd season. ItGotWorse from there. The 2 shipping factions have their own exclusive forums, the fandom as a completely 'whole' doesn't exist any more except in a few token locations that are no where near as active as they used to be or as active as the {{Shipping}} forums are now.

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* ''{{Carly}}'' has the Seddie vs Creddie war. Whilst {{Shipping}} tends to do this anyway, the Seddie this Sam/Freddie vs Creddie Carly/Freddie divide in the ''{{iCarly}}'' fandom slowly built up during season 1, then went [[ShippingWars nuclear]] halfway through the 2nd season.season as of the ''iKiss'' episode which had Sam and Freddie share a FirstKiss. ItGotWorse from there. The 2 shipping factions have their own exclusive forums, the fandom as a completely complete 'whole' doesn't exist any more except in a few token locations that are no where near as active as they used to be or as active more, as the {{Shipping}} forums are now.size of the Seddie fandom swamps and over-runs any integrated community super quickly.


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** Also the fight between those who wanted [[TheLoad Chloe]] thrown out the nearest airlock up against a (unusual, as they are diametrically opposed {{Shipping}} pairings) combined force of the [[JustFriends Chloe/Eli]] and [[OfficialCouple Chloe/Scott]] shippers who wanted her to stay.
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* Season 4 of TheCW[=/=]BET's ''TheGame''. The lack of the comedic characters Tee Tee, Tasha, Jason, And Kelly didn't help.

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* ''GossipGirl'' The ChAir vs. DAir wars have officially come out into the open after episode 4x17. Before that, it was pretty much low level skirmishes, but with threats of Chair fans abandoning the show, it's going to be interesting what the fans of other ship bases, not just DAir, will do. With the WordofGod retracting earlier endgame pronouncements, it is an open field for war.

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* ''GossipGirl'' The ChAir Chair vs. DAir Dair wars have officially come out into the open after episode 4x17. Before that, it was pretty much low level skirmishes, but with threats of Chair fans abandoning the show, it's going to be interesting what the fans of other ship bases, not just DAir, Dair, will do. With the WordofGod retracting earlier endgame pronouncements, it is an open field for war.war.
** Actually WordOfGod has assured fans that the previously proclaimed endgame [[spoiler:Chuck and Blair]] is still on, thought that might be a reaction to [[spoiler:the Dan/Blair storyline causing the largest drop in ratings the show has ever had to the point where the show might not survive unless the Chair fans return]].
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** Other points of contention for the new version were the JitterCam, Starbuck, and boomer [[GendedrFlip being a girl]], the RaceLift of Tigh and Boomer, recasting Baltar as an HandsomeLech AntiHero, the new lead character of Laura Roslin, the fact that the writers were making it up as they went along despite putting at the start of just about every episode during seasons one through three that "They Have a Plan", and a third season finale where all of the MIA human Cylons turned out to be known characters.

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** Other points of contention for the new version were the JitterCam, Starbuck, and boomer [[GendedrFlip [[GenderFlip being a girl]], the RaceLift of Tigh and Boomer, recasting Baltar as an HandsomeLech AntiHero, the new lead character of Laura Roslin, the fact that the writers were making it up as they went along despite putting at the start of just about every episode during seasons one through three that "They Have a Plan", and a third season finale where all of the MIA human Cylons turned out to be known characters.
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** Other points of contention for the new version were the JitterCam, Starbuck being a girl, recasting Baltar as an HandsomeLech AntiHero, the new lead character of Laura Roslin, the fact that the writers were making it up as they went along despite putting at the start of just about every episode during seasons one through three that "They Have a Plan", and a third season finale where all of the MIA human Cylons turned out to be known characters.

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** Other points of contention for the new version were the JitterCam, Starbuck Starbuck, and boomer [[GendedrFlip being a girl, girl]], the RaceLift of Tigh and Boomer, recasting Baltar as an HandsomeLech AntiHero, the new lead character of Laura Roslin, the fact that the writers were making it up as they went along despite putting at the start of just about every episode during seasons one through three that "They Have a Plan", and a third season finale where all of the MIA human Cylons turned out to be known characters.
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**Whether or not the show is filled with sexism, misogyny, racism, and UnfortunateImplications.
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* ''GossipGirl'' The ChAir vs. DAir wars have officially come out into the open after episode 4x17. Before that, it was pretty much low level skirmishes, but with threats of Chair fans abandoning the show, it's going to be interesting what the fans of other ship bases, not just DAir, will do. With the WordofGod retracting earlier endgame pronouncements, it is an open field for war.

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* ''GossipGirl'' The ChAir vs. DAir wars have officially come out into the open after episode 4x17. Before that, it was pretty much low level skirmishes, but with threats of Chair fans abandoning the show, it's going to be interesting what the fans of other ship bases, not just DAir, will do. With the WordofGod retracting earlier endgame pronouncements, it is an open field for war.war.
*Season 4 of TheCW[=/=]BET's ''TheGame''. The lack of the comedic characters Tee Tee, Tasha, Jason, And Kelly didn't help.
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* ''GossipGirl'' The ChAir vs. DAir wars have officially come out into the open after episode 4x17. Before that, it was pretty much low level skirmishes, but with threats of Chair fans abandoning the show, it's going to be interesting what the fans of other ship bases, not just DAir, will do. With the WordofGod retracting earlier endgame pronouncements, it is an open field for war.
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* ''{{Victorious}}'': Tori Vega has a nature of tending to act out on others, and she has done things such as [[spoiler: kiss other characters' boyfriends, as well as not keep her mouth shut even when asked, which at one point caused Beck and herself to lose a small part in a movie. Despite that, the other characters almost always treat her like a goddess]]. This makes her either an unbearable [[JerkSue Jerk Sue]] who will make you want to throw something at the TV every time she gets her way, or someone to enjoy between her wacky situations, such as when she gets insulted back.

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* ''{{Victorious}}'': Tori Vega has a nature of tending to act out on others, and she has done things such as [[spoiler: kiss other characters' boyfriends, [[WhatAnIdiot as well as not keep her mouth shut even when asked, which at one point caused Beck and herself to lose a small part in a movie. Despite that, the other characters almost always treat movie]]. Because of this, some people see her like a goddess]]. This makes her either as an unbearable [[JerkSue Jerk Sue]] who will make you makes them want to throw something at the TV every time she gets her way, or someone to enjoy between but others consider her wacky situations, such as when a different step from the likes of previous main characters from Dan's shows. And let's not forget that she gets insulted back.was the only girl on the show who got a chance to sing for a while.


* As is probably inevitable among fans of a very LongRunner with a constant turnover of creators and wide variations in style from season to season, ''DoctorWho'' fandom is not so much Broken as splintered into a whole pile of glittering but sharp-edged pieces. Some debates have been running for decades but stil raise passions. The Third Doctor, charmingly anti-establishment gentleman hero or arrogant, bigoted, militaristic tool of the Man? Season 17, sparklingly intelligent highpoint of the show as comedy or unfunny, underwritten, overeducated tosh made with contempt for anyone who wasn't at Cambridge with Douglas Adams? John Nathan-Turner, producer who did his best under difficult circumstances or the Devil Incarnate Himself? Colin Baker, crap performance or good performance in crap scripts? [[SeasonalRot Worst Season Ever]], 22, 23, or 24? Seasons 25-6, SoBadItsHorrible final nail in the show's coffin or brilliant comeback ScrewedByTheNetwork? The 1989-2005 spin-off novels, superb, thoughtfully DarkerAndEdgier exploration of the full potential of the universe and characters for grown-ups, or dull, pretentious, adolescently DarkerAndEdgier, ContinuityLockout-prone {{Wangst}}-fest? Do any of the non-TV spin-offs count as canon at all?

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* As is probably inevitable among fans of a very LongRunner with a constant turnover of creators and wide variations in style from season to season, ''DoctorWho'' fandom is not so much Broken as splintered into a whole pile of glittering but sharp-edged pieces. Some debates have been running for decades but stil raise passions. The Third Doctor, charmingly anti-establishment gentleman hero or arrogant, bigoted, militaristic tool of the Man? Season 17, sparklingly intelligent highpoint of the show as comedy or unfunny, underwritten, overeducated tosh made with contempt for anyone who wasn't at Cambridge with Douglas Adams? John Nathan-Turner, producer who did his best under difficult circumstances or the Devil Incarnate Himself? Colin Baker, crap performance or good performance in crap scripts? [[SeasonalRot Worst Season Ever]], 22, 23, or 24? Seasons 25-6, SoBadItsHorrible the final nail in the show's coffin or brilliant comeback ScrewedByTheNetwork? The 1989-2005 spin-off novels, superb, thoughtfully DarkerAndEdgier exploration of the full potential of the universe and characters for grown-ups, or dull, pretentious, adolescently DarkerAndEdgier, ContinuityLockout-prone {{Wangst}}-fest? Do any of the non-TV spin-offs count as canon at all?
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** Which is better,campy like ''MightyMorphinPowerRangers'' or dark like ''PowerRangersTimeForce''?

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* The fifth and final season of ''TheATeam'', where they [[RearrangeTheSong changed the opening theme]], and the team stopped running from the government and started working for them.
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** This isn't even mentioning the violent shipping wars between Wincest (Sam/Dean) Dean/Cas, and more recently, Sassy (Sam/Cas).
** There is also great debates on which actor is better, whether or not the quality of the acting/writing/show in general has gone up/down over the seasons, whether or not the show should have ended at season 5, and the quality of season 6.
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* ''[=~M* A* S* H~=]'', anyone? D'you prefer the earlier seasons, before [[JumpTheShark Alan Alda took over behind the camera and it became preachy instead of funny]], or [[GrowTheBeard the later seasons, where the show realised the wacky comedy didn't fit too well, and became deep instead of dissonant]]?

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* ''[=~M* [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Ptitleg61am70o3b3w?from=Main.MASH M* A* S* H~=]'', H]], anyone? D'you prefer the earlier seasons, before [[JumpTheShark Alan Alda took over behind the camera and it became preachy instead of funny]], or [[GrowTheBeard the later seasons, where the show realised the wacky comedy didn't fit too well, and became deep instead of dissonant]]?
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* ''{{Victorious}}'': Tori Vega has a nature of tending to act out on others, and she has done things such as [[spoiler: kiss other characters' boyfriends, as well as not keep her mouth shut even when asked, which at one point caused Beck and herself to lose a small part in a movie. Despite that, the other characters almost always treat her like a goddess]]. This makes her either an unbearable Mary Sue who will make you want to throw something at the TV every time she gets her way, or someone to enjoy between her wacky situations, such as when she gets insulted back.

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* ''{{Victorious}}'': Tori Vega has a nature of tending to act out on others, and she has done things such as [[spoiler: kiss other characters' boyfriends, as well as not keep her mouth shut even when asked, which at one point caused Beck and herself to lose a small part in a movie. Despite that, the other characters almost always treat her like a goddess]]. This makes her either an unbearable Mary Sue [[JerkSue Jerk Sue]] who will make you want to throw something at the TV every time she gets her way, or someone to enjoy between her wacky situations, such as when she gets insulted back.
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* ''Victorious'': Tori Vega has a nature of tending to act out on others, and she has done things such as [[spoiler: kiss other characters' boyfriends, as well as not keep her mouth shut even when asked, which at one point caused Beck and herself to lose a small part in a movie. Despite that, the other characters almost always treat her like a goddess]]. This makes her either an unbearable [[MarySue]] who will make you want to throw something at the TV every time she gets her way, or someone to enjoy between her wacky situations, such as when she gets insulted back.

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* ''Victorious'': ''{{Victorious}}'': Tori Vega has a nature of tending to act out on others, and she has done things such as [[spoiler: kiss other characters' boyfriends, as well as not keep her mouth shut even when asked, which at one point caused Beck and herself to lose a small part in a movie. Despite that, the other characters almost always treat her like a goddess]]. This makes her either an unbearable [[MarySue]] Mary Sue who will make you want to throw something at the TV every time she gets her way, or someone to enjoy between her wacky situations, such as when she gets insulted back.
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* ''[[Victorious]]'': Tori Vega has a nature of tending to act out on others, and she has done things such as [[spoiler: kiss other characters' boyfriends, as well as not keep her mouth shut even when asked, which at one point caused Beck and herself to lose a small part in a movie. Despite that, the other characters almost always treat her like a goddess]]. This makes her either an unbearable [[Mary Sue]] who will make you want to throw something at the TV every time she gets her way, or someone to enjoy with her witty remarks.

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** Which is better,campy like MightyMorphinPowerRangers or dark like PowerRangersTimeForce?

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** Which is better,campy like MightyMorphinPowerRangers ''MightyMorphinPowerRangers'' or dark like PowerRangersTimeForce? ''PowerRangersTimeForce''?
** Whether or not to count the {{recut}} of ''MightyMorphinPowerRangers'' officially as season 18. Press releases from Nickelodeon and question responses from Saban Capital Group's official ''Power Rangers'' Twitter page indicate that they both consider ''Samurai'' to officially be [[WordOfGod year/season 19]]; which does [[WordOfDante suggest]] that they, in the very least, count the recut as season 18.
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**The show also represented a schism between those who enjoyed the prior two series, some enjoying the more dramatic tone added to the stories, and some who hated what was perceived as a loss of comedic elements. The disgruntlement of the latter was cited by some the producers as a cause for the shows eventual cancelling.
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*** It didn't help that the big-release MovieOfTheShow rewrote most of what was established about the mytharc, and that by Season 7 it was obvious Chris Carter and crew were making it up as they went along.

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*** It didn't help that the big-release MovieOfTheShow Movie rewrote most of what was established about the mytharc, and that by Season 7 it was obvious Chris Carter [[ChrisCarterEffect Chris]] [[TropeNamer Carter]] and crew were making it up as they went along.
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* It almost unanimous that fans of {{Roseanne}} all hate the last season. The split comes from people hating it for different reasons. Some hate the fact the conners won the lottery, changed their lifestyle and the show stopped being about a blue collar family (although this becomes a moot point when the WhamEpisode aired that season). And the latter group hate the wham episode for that very reason, not really because it made the lottery win moot, but because it made the show end on a devastating DownerEnding implying that [[spoiler: after Dan died, rosey never realized her dream of becoming a writer. And the rest of the family is still stuck in a low income working class rut]]. Of course there are a few proponents whom found the "coping method" implemented by rosie through her writing to be depressing FridgeBrilliance. As they believe there were subtle hints that [[spoiler: their lives as rich lottery winners was fake all along.]]

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* It almost unanimous that fans of {{Roseanne}} ''{{Roseanne}}'' all hate the last season. The split comes from people hating it for different reasons. Some hate the fact the conners Conners won the lottery, changed their lifestyle and the show stopped being about a blue collar family (although this becomes a moot point when the WhamEpisode aired that season). And the latter group hate the wham episode for that very reason, not really because it made the lottery win moot, but because it made the show end on a devastating DownerEnding implying that [[spoiler: after Dan died, rosey Rosie never realized her dream of becoming a writer. And the rest of the family is still stuck in a low income working class rut]]. Of course there are a few proponents whom found the "coping method" implemented by rosie Rosie through her writing to be depressing FridgeBrilliance. As they believe there were subtle hints that [[spoiler: their lives as rich lottery winners was fake all along.]]
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* Whilst {{Shipping}} tends to do this anyway, the Seddie vs Creddie divide in the ''{{iCarly}}'' fandom slowly built up during season 1, then went [[ShippingWar nuclear]] halfway through the 2nd season. ItGotWorse from there. The 2 shipping factions have their own exclusive forums, the fandom as a completele 'whole' doesn't exist any more except in a few token locations that are no where near as active as they used to be or as active as the {{Shipping}} forums are now.

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* Whilst {{Shipping}} tends to do this anyway, the Seddie vs Creddie divide in the ''{{iCarly}}'' fandom slowly built up during season 1, then went [[ShippingWar [[ShippingWars nuclear]] halfway through the 2nd season. ItGotWorse from there. The 2 shipping factions have their own exclusive forums, the fandom as a completele completely 'whole' doesn't exist any more except in a few token locations that are no where near as active as they used to be or as active as the {{Shipping}} forums are now.
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** And the new series has just created a whole new minefield to navigate. There's the obvious conflicts between fans of the classic series who view the new series and pretty much everything about it as a betrayal as all they felt the show stood for, and the fans of the new series who view the classic series as a creaky, irrelevant old relic badly in need of being updated in the first place. But the new series has it's own complications outside of this conflict, such as; RussellTDavies versus StevenMoffat; who's better? Ninth Doctor; fascinatingly tragic hero or borderline thug? Tenth Doctor; greatest Doctor ever or irritating git with an inconsistent and hypocritical moral code? Eleventh Doctor; worthy (or even superior) replacement to Ten or irritating git not fit to wear his sneakers? And as noted above, the increased emphasis on romance and character relations has brought with it an increased emphasis on {{Shipping}}, meaning that [[ShipToShipCombat extremely brutal]] {{FlameWar}}s can and have been fought over whether Rose Tyler / Martha Jones / Donna Noble / Amy Pond (delete as applicable) is the Doctor's One ''And Only'' True Love. Considering that Donna has absolutely no canon feelings towards the Doctor unlike the others, and Amy got over hers with--shock of shocks--minimal angsting over it (''Amy's Choice'' was really the only episode to play it up) and chose Rory this fuels even further flames.

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** And the new series has just created a whole new minefield to navigate. There's the obvious conflicts between fans of the classic series who view the new series and pretty much everything about it as a betrayal as all they felt the show stood for, and the fans of the new series who view the classic series as a creaky, irrelevant old relic badly in need of being updated in the first place. But the new series has it's its own complications outside of this conflict, such as; RussellTDavies versus StevenMoffat; who's better? Ninth Doctor; fascinatingly tragic hero or borderline thug? Tenth Doctor; greatest Doctor ever or irritating git with an inconsistent and hypocritical moral code? Eleventh Doctor; worthy (or even superior) replacement to Ten or irritating git not fit to wear his sneakers? And as noted above, the increased emphasis on romance and character relations has brought with it an increased emphasis on {{Shipping}}, meaning that [[ShipToShipCombat extremely brutal]] {{FlameWar}}s can and have been fought over whether Rose Tyler / Martha Jones / Donna Noble / Amy Pond (delete as applicable) is the Doctor's One ''And Only'' True Love. Considering that Donna has absolutely no canon feelings towards the Doctor unlike the others, and Amy got over hers with--shock of shocks--minimal angsting over it (''Amy's Choice'' was really the only episode to play it up) and chose Rory this fuels even further flames.

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