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** At the end of "[[Recap/StarTrekVoyagerS3E25S4E1Scorpion Scorpion Part 2]]", Janeways says that they have something the Borg could never offer; Friendship. For the next 4 years or so, Seven of Nine faces prejudice from her crewmates for being a Borg. So much for the diverse utopia of Star Trek.

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** At the end of "[[Recap/StarTrekVoyagerS3E25S4E1Scorpion Scorpion Scorpion, Part 2]]", Janeways Janeway says that they the ship (and by virtue, the Federation) have something the Borg could never offer; Friendship. offer -- friendship. For the next 4 four years or so, Seven of Nine faces prejudice from her crewmates for being a Borg. So much for The crew's behavior towards Seven makes less sense in context of the diverse utopia first few episodes of Star Trek.the series, where the Federation and Maquis crews drop their attitudes towards each other and more-or-less integrate seamlessly after Janeway gives a speech ordering them to set aside their differences.



** In the Season 2 episode "Here She Comes, Miss Amphipolis" Xena has to go undercover in a beauty pageant, and finds that one of the other contestants has only entered because she wants to get a winter's supply of food for her village. At the end of the episode (along with the other girls), she quits, stating that winning the competition isn't worth losing her pride and dignity. First of all (according to her), she's already lost it, so she may as well have hung in there and gotten a winter's supply of food to go with it. Secondly, endangering the lives of hungry children over the winter isn't a particularly good reason to quit a competition for the sake of one's dignity. Thirdly, it doesn't seem to occur to her that she had her pride and dignity ''all along'' considering she only entered the pageant in the first place for the sake of others. For an episode that was meant to demonstrate that beauty pageant contestants aren't just pretty faces, they really missed the boat with this one. It gets [[CluelessAesop slightly more off-key]], since most beauty pageants aren't held for charity, and when they are, the charitable donations don't go ''to the winner''.

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** In the Season 2 episode "Here She Comes, Miss Amphipolis" Amphipolis", Xena has to go undercover in a beauty pageant, and finds that one of the other contestants has only entered because she wants to get a winter's supply of food for her village. At the end of the episode (along with the other girls), she quits, stating that winning the competition isn't worth losing her pride and dignity. First of all (according to her), she's already lost it, so she may as well have hung in there and gotten a winter's supply of food to go with it. Secondly, endangering the lives of hungry children over the winter isn't a particularly good reason to quit a competition for the sake of one's dignity. Thirdly, it doesn't seem to occur to her that she had her pride and dignity ''all along'' considering she only entered the pageant in the first place for the sake of others. For an episode that was meant to demonstrate that beauty pageant contestants aren't just pretty faces, they really missed the boat with this one. It gets [[CluelessAesop slightly more off-key]], since most beauty pageants aren't held for charity, and when they are, the charitable donations don't go ''to the winner''.
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Split Doctor Who's examples to its own page for being numerous enough.


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** "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS3E6TheArk The Ark]]" is about a slave race, the Monoids, who are mute and subservient to humans. After a plague occurs, the Monoids eventually rise up over the humans and enslave them instead. The (apparent) attempted moral is announced at the end of the episode when the Doctor tells the humans and Monoids that they need to live in equality to survive, but thanks to WhatMeasureIsANonHuman writing (in which the Doctor doesn't care about the deaths of tens of Monoids but realises it's an emergency when a human dies) and the fact that the Monoids' defining character traits are being "savages" and [[IdiotBall making terrible tactical decisions for no reasons other than to allow the humans to win]], how the Monoids are returned to an underclass at the end, and how the story was made in 1966, it comes across more like a racist allegory for how extending civil rights will cause the oppressor to become oppressed by a race that can only run civilisation with incompetent savagery unless they are returned to HappinessInSlavery. Elizabeth Sandifer of the TARDIS Eruditorum subscribes to this interpretation and believes the stupidity of the Monoids was intentional, rather than the SpecialEffectFailure it is generally imagined as.
** In [[Recap/DoctorWhoS5E7TheWheelInSpace "The Wheel in Space"]], Zoe confidently asserts that the ''Silver Carrier'' must have been deliberately piloted to the space station. The Doctor dismisses her argument with "Logic, my dear Zoe, merely enables one to be wrong with authority." As it turns out, the ship ''was'' deliberately piloted, and her reasoning was absolutely correct.
** "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS6E1TheDominators The Dominators]]" has two. The WordOfGod aim was an allegory about how the hippie movement is bad because they would have got their arses kicked if they'd been in control when the Nazis had invaded. However, the oppressed, pacifistic Dulcians don't work as a hippie allegory, as they're characterised either as elderly politicians or as attractive young people who unthinkingly repeat the elders' lessons by rote until the Doctor and companions turn them against their racist, fascist oppressors, while the old Dulcians get slaughtered through trying to negotiate with AlwaysChaoticEvil aliens. The result is that it comes off as an allegory about how student activism is the future because the apathetic old politicians are only concerned with keeping superficial comfort and not with fixing big societal problems, and have engineered their own destruction. The second is in the B-plot: The villains have an internal conflict, between Rago, who favours caution and condemns meaningless destruction, and Toba, a PsychoForHire who just loves destroying things. The problem is that everything Toba says is right — if he just had blown everyone up on sight (including the Doctor and Jamie) the Dominators would have succeeded in their plan. The result of this is that the story is simultaneously both far more left-wing and far more right-wing than intended.
** In the ScriptWank at the end of "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS10E4PlanetOfTheDaleks Planet of the Daleks]]", the Doctor delivers a heartfelt speech that the Thals must tell their people WarIsHell, and not to make it sound like their adventure was a 'fun game'. The story involves, amongst other things, them escaping fun, toyetic AlwaysChaoticEvil nasty pepperpot people by [[DressingAsTheEnemy dressing up in purple fur coats]] and MacGyvering a hot air balloon. The reason for this discrepancy is because the scene was appended to the end by Terrance Dicks at the last minute because [[{{Padding}} the script was underrunning]].
** Some people — including Creator/TomBaker — have expressed discomfort that the moral of the show is about how violence is never as good as love and understanding, and yet most of the stories [[ViolenceReallyIsTheAnswer still end with the Doctor murdering the aliens]]. This was pointed out in New Who but led to more broken aesops (see below).
** "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS14E4TheFaceOfEvil The Face of Evil]]" is based on the premise that the Doctor's egotistical attempts to save a space mission AI (by simply imposing a print of his own brain over it instead of actually fixing the problem) led to the AI becoming an insane God who selectively breeds the settlers into opposing CargoCult factions that worship him, and creating a dystopic {{Egopolis}} based on the Doctor's image. It all seems like it's set up to criticise the Doctor's big ego and ChronicHeroSyndrome... but it ends with the AI, having realised who it is, asking the Doctor for an explanation as to where he went wrong, absolving the Doctor of all responsibility and even having 'God' ask him for tips on how to be better. Striking because the new series absolutely would ''never'' have missed the opportunity to criticise the Doctor's god complex.
** "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS15E4TheSunMakers The Sun Makers]]" is supposed to be a right-wing allegory about how taxation is bad, written by an openly Conservative writer. However, ignoring a few throwaway flippant comments made by the Doctor, the story is really about the evil of taxation that targets the poorest in society, and societies that strip away social safety nets so the untaxed rich can rake in massive profits. The reason for this situation is privatisation, where every utility (including sunlight) is run by corporate interests and the government is viewed only as an extension of the MegaCorp. At the very least, it comes across as left-wing in an Occupy kind of way. If you choose to read into the fact that the Doctor wins by inspiring a populist revolt to execute their leaders while quoting Karl Marx, it becomes actively ''Communist''. Not what you'd expect from something written by a Margaret Thatcher supporter in 1977.
** The character of Whizzkid in "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS25E4TheGreatestShowInTheGalaxy The Greatest Show in the Galaxy]]" was intended as a TakeThat to fans who criticised 80s ''Doctor Who'' by saying it wasn't as good as it used to be in a time they couldn't possibly remember. The problem here is that Whizzkid's similar opinions about the titular Psychic Circus are shown to be absolutely correct. Consequently, all Whizzkid does is vindicate the same fans the character was supposed to be chastising.
** In "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS27E6Dalek Dalek]]", while the Doctor is certainly being unpleasant in torturing the Lone Dalek, he is treated as wrong for wanting to kill the Dalek and treating it as absolutely evil. However when the Dalek gets free it kills hundreds of people and it is clear it intends to wipe out all humanity. It does gain human feelings but is clearly an exception and Rose's sympathy towards it is largely born from ignorance, while the Doctor knows first-hand how dangerous the Daleks are and is proved right.
** [[Recap/DoctorWhoS27E13ThePartingOfTheWays "The Parting of the Ways"]]: The Doctor is faced with using a weapon called a Delta Wave to destroy a Dalek fleet, which will destroy them, but also any humans still living on Earth, as he didn't have time to refine the transmission when he set it up. He declines to do so, on the grounds that it's the morally better choice to not wipe out humanity with the Daleks. However, the Daleks have bombarded Earth with such force that they deformed entire ''continents'', meaning they have probably wiped out all humans living on Earth, and any survivors will probably soon be killed, enslaved or converted into Daleks, a FateWorseThanDeath. The Doctor even points out that humanity will survive, as it's the far future and they've spread to other worlds by now, saying "You're the only Daleks in existence. The whole universe is in danger if I let you live." The only thing that saves the universe from them is a literal DeusExMachina. The Doctor's decision, given that he's probably the only non-Dalek in range of the transmitter, looks quite odd. ''However'', it's suggested that the Doctor's decision stems from his lingering guilt over how he resolved the Time War, by wiping out both the Daleks and the Time Lords. He's too broken and demoralized to make the same decision regarding Earth, and is looking for even the slightest shred of hope that will justify him not having to make that choice.
** How the series handles the Tenth Doctor and Rose Tyler's codependent relationship. It's very apparent that the Doctor and Rose were just what each other needed in Series 1. The Doctor needed to cope with his depression and survivor's guilt so he could enjoy saving the world again, and Rose needed someone to come along and change her monotone outlook on life. But the problem with the idea of ‘needing someone’ is that that line of thought leads to really codependent places really fast, and that’s what eventually happens with the Doctor and Rose. In Series 2, the Doctor and Rose become increasingly lost in each other and their clever adventures, and increasingly detached from and uninterested in everyone around them, treating others with callous indifference, which numerous characters notice and become worried about. By the second half of the season, Rose comes to loathe her old life and builds so much of her new happiness around the Doctor that she can't live without him in her life. She even tries to ditch all of her friends and family in an alternate universe forever so she won't have to say goodbye to him. The denouement of [[Recap/DoctorWhoS28E12ArmyOfGhosts "Army of Ghosts"]]/[[Recap/DoctorWhoS28E13Doomsday "Doomsday"]], in which the Doctor and Rose are forcibly separated and Rose in particular is absolutely devastated, appears to be a cautionary tale about why you shouldn’t make one person the center of your world, because it will only lead to heartbreak (hints of this were seeded back in "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS28E3SchoolReunion School Reunion]]", when Rose realized that while the Doctor might be the center of her world, he's lived far longer than her and she will never be the center of his). But if that’s the case, then Rose’s return in Series 4 is positively baffling. In [[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E12TheStolenEarth "The Stolen Earth"]]/[[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E13JourneysEnd "Journey’s End"]], we learn Rose has not even tried to move on, she’s spent at least six years trying to think of ways to get back to the Doctor (since time moves faster in Pete’s world), and when the Daleks almost destroy the universe Rose leaps at the chance to jump universes so she can try to find the Doctor. Not only that, but her dialogue implies she was trying to travel between universes beforehand even though the Doctor said travelling between universes again would destroy both worlds, meaning Rose risked two worlds just for her happiness. She’s rewarded with a clone Doctor that can grow old for the rest of his life with her, and in a deleted scene she was going to receive a TARDIS so they can go traveling again. So that Rose can receive a happy ending, the lesson of her arc is changed from "beware unhealthy, codependent relationships" to "if you cling to someone hard enough, and never ever let go, eventually you’ll get everything you ever wanted and more".
** This seems to be a general problem with Dalek stories in New Who, as "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS29E4DaleksInManhattan Daleks in Manhattan]]"/"[[Recap/DoctorWhoS29E5EvolutionOfTheDaleks Evolution of the Daleks]]" tries to be a story entirely themed around the evils of racism, while still blatantly depicting humans and Time Lords being good and Daleks being evil as [[VillainousLineage overwhelmingly determined by their genes]].
** "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E13JourneysEnd Journey's End]]" is yet another and even worse example of the series trying to suggest that the Doctor's attitude to the Daleks is FantasticRacism while still depicting them as AlwaysChaoticEvil. The Doctor treats his clone as wrong for wiping out the Daleks ([[JokerImmunity they're back next series]]), saying it shows how violent and brutal he is. Yet the Daleks had just come very close to wiping out entire Universes and are fictions poster creature for ScaryDogmaticAliens. The Doctor had temporarily incapacitated them but considering how resourceful they are it was unlikely they would have remained like that for long. The moral makes even less sense considering that 10 in the same series had basically done the same thing to a race that wasn't as dangerous as the Daleks and in the process killed 20,000 innocent people, even if this was what history decreed. Meanwhile his clone was only wiping out the Daleks and their OmnicidalManiac Creator Davros (who is later revealed to have survived), who refused a chance to be saved by the Doctor. Not only that but when the Doctor declined a chance to destroy the last Dalek in their previous appearance, claiming there has been too much death today, that Dalek had escaped and caused the problems of this episode. Not only that but that Dalek had been responsible for most of the deaths, killing the Dalek-Humans that numbered over a thousand because they were not Dalek enough. To be fair, the Doctor may just be using the clone Doctor's supposed "genocide" of the Daleks as a convenient excuse to put the human Doctor onto Rose and prevent her from damaging the universe through the disk-hopping. Though that leads to further problems (see above).
** On a related note, the times the Doctor questions whether he should kill the villains or not contradicts itself. A MonsterOfTheWeek will be slaughtered without a second thought, regardless of motives but when it comes to recurring aliens like the Daleks or the Master, who have proven to be AlwaysChaoticEvil or unlikely to change no matter what, it is suddenly wrong to kill them.
** The Doctor talking about how wonderful and resourceful humanity is can be slightly undermined by the fact a lot of their achievements and survival are due to him and many other aliens, the Daemons, the Osirians and the Silence to name a few. It makes you wonder — what about other races that don't have the benefit of the Doctor helping them out?
** The two-parters story [[Recap/DoctorWhoS32E5TheRebelFlesh "The Rebel Flesh"]]/[[Recap/DoctorWhoS32E6TheAlmostPeople "The Almost People"]] is about a rebellion of clones who are [[CloningBlues sick of being treated as disposable vessels]] by miners to operate in dangerous circumstances. The Doctor even sides with them saying ClonesArePeopleToo and try his best to save them. At the end of the day, the Doctor reveals to his companions the reason of their visit to the factory: [[TomatoInTheMirror Amy has been replaced with a clone all along]]. The Doctor ''immediately '' and rather hypocritically [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman kills Amy's clone]] with his sonic screwdriver as if nothing in the last few hours ever happened. The problem is lessened a bit in that Amy's clone appeared to just be remotely controlled by the real Amy, [[Recap/DoctorWhoS32E7AGoodManGoesToWar which the next episode confirms]], but it's still a matter of how sure was the Doctor that it hadn't been gaining sentience like the others. He axed Amy's clone awfully quickly when he figured it would help Amy.
** [[Recap/DoctorWhoS36E12TheDoctorFalls "The Doctor Falls"]]
*** The episode draws a parallel between him and his companion Bill Potts, who are both in situations where they each must deal with and accept an unwanted, fundamental change to their lives. She's [[spoiler:been converted into a Cyberman against her will]], he's on the cusp of regeneration. Neither wants to live if they can't stay who they are. At the end of this episode, the frustrated Doctor gets a RayOfHopeEnding setting up a ChristmasEpisode in which he accepts regeneration and the LossOfIdentity it comes with at last. Too bad that in the meantime Bill [[spoiler:gets her original form restored with awesome new powers to boot when a barely foreshadowed DeusExMachina (Bill's former empowered girlfriend, Heather) steps in to make her AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence]]. [[Recap/DoctorWho2017CSTwiceUponATime "Twice Upon a Time"]] does end with the Doctor deciding that helping the universe is WorthLivingFor even if it means he has to lose his identity, but never addresses Bill's fate so the Aesop remains broken. In the episode's defence, the traditional rules of ''Who'' would not have been in Bill's favour had the Aesop '''not''' been broken since [[spoiler:she would have succumbed to the Cybermen's Hive Mind eventually and have to be killed]], and given that Bill is a rare TwoferTokenMinority (black and lesbian) among series regulars it would have looked '''really''' bad for the show. And a {{novelisation}} reveals that [[spoiler:Bill eventually chose to have her mortal body back, and lived to a ripe old age, eventually passing away]].
*** Also, the Doctor's stirring "Because it's kind" speech explaining that he's defending the seemingly doomed solar farmers from the Cybermen because it's the right, kind thing to do comes ''very'' close to being broken. In order to save the farmers, he has to wipe out the Cybermen — who ''were'' all once humans, some converted as children — en masse in a giant TakingYouWithMe explosion, and blast them individually with his sonic screwdriver in the run-up to that (and this from a character who DoesntLikeGuns). The only reason this isn't broken is that Cybermen are irredeemable once fully linked to the HiveMind, as their ''modus operandi'' is to either convert or destroy other species, so there really is no kinder option.
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"Girls Get It Done" wasn't just meant to mock the idea of female characters all being a team, but the way it's executed. Avenegers: Endgame was criticised for having all the female characters standing together because of how contrived the imagery looked. The Boys used it because the only supes on their side at the time just happened to be women.


** Another issue with the show is that it frequently mocks corporations using progressivism to pander to audiences, only to engage in the same kind of behavior itself. In Season 2 they mocked the scene in ''Film/AvengersEndgame'' with all the female heroes standing side-by-side, only to emulate it themselves with Starlight, Kimiko, and Queen Maeve's NoHoldsBarredBeatdown of [[ArcVillain Stormfront]]. Season 2 also had Queen Maeve irritated with [[EvilInc Vought]] using her bisexuality as a selling point and giving her special treatment, [[spoiler:only for the show's writers to do the same thing and turn her into a KarmaHoudini with PlotArmor in the season 3 finale because they wanted to PreserveYourGays]].

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** Another issue with the show is that it frequently mocks corporations using progressivism to pander to audiences, only to engage in the same kind of behavior itself. In Season 2 they mocked the scene in ''Film/AvengersEndgame'' with all the female heroes standing side-by-side, only to emulate it themselves with Starlight, Kimiko, and Queen Maeve's NoHoldsBarredBeatdown of [[ArcVillain Stormfront]]. Season 2 also had Queen Maeve irritated with [[EvilInc Vought]] using her bisexuality as a selling point and giving her special treatment, [[spoiler:only for the show's writers to do the same thing and turn her into a KarmaHoudini with PlotArmor in the season 3 finale because they wanted to PreserveYourGays]].PreserveYourGays, despite writing her into a scenario where she was depowered while falling from a skyscraper]].
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SVU doesn't bust johns unless the prostitute was underage, they're shown being entirely friendly to prostitutes on the street and Fin especially is laid back and doesn't get worked up about victimless crime.


** One RippedFromTheHeadlines episode revolved around the "[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incel incel]]" Internet subculture of lonely men who often [[EntitledToHaveYou blame society and women for their romantic difficulties]]. Fin comments that if their virginity bothers them that much they should just hire a prostitute, ignoring the fact that he and his coworkers regularly arrest people for doing exactly that.
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* ''Series/TheBoys2019'':
** The show is, per WordOfGod, supposed to be about blue-collar stiffs banding together and using grit and gumption to take on the PowersThatBe, but in the end, the Boys' quest to take down the Supers is only made possible by friendly external forces on the same physical or political power level as the Supers. The aesop becomes less "Ordinary people working together can do anything" and more "ordinary people need benevolent powers to protect them from malevolent ones". In Season 3 Butcher & Hughie become {{Empowered Badass Normal}}s like the [[ComicBook/TheBoys original comic]], but here their use of the SuperSerum [[NoManShouldHaveThisPower is framed as a bad thing]] with the two turning into {{Well Intentioned Extremist}}s, adding a layer of consistency to the show's moral.
** Another issue with the show is that it frequently mocks corporations using progressivism to pander to audiences, only to engage in the same kind of behavior itself. In Season 2 they mocked the scene in ''Film/AvengersEndgame'' with all the female heroes standing side-by-side, only to emulate it themselves with Starlight, Kimiko, and Queen Maeve's NoHoldsBarredBeatdown of Stormfront. Season 2 also had Queen Maeve irritated with [[EvilInc Vought]] using her bisexuality as a selling point and giving her special treatment, [[spoiler:only for the show's writers to do the same thing and turn her into a KarmaHoudini with PlotArmor in the season 3 finale because they wanted to PreserveYourGays]].

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''Series/TheBoys2019'' is, per WordOfGod, supposed to be about blue-collar stiffs banding together and using grit and gumption to take on the PowersThatBe, but in the end, the Boys' quest to take down the Supers is [[OvershadowedByAwesome only made possible by friendly external forces on the same physical or political power level as the Supers.Supers]]. The aesop becomes less "Ordinary people working together can do anything" and more "ordinary people need benevolent powers to protect them from malevolent ones". In Season 3 Butcher & Hughie become {{Empowered Badass Normal}}s like the [[ComicBook/TheBoys original comic]], but here their use of the SuperSerum [[NoManShouldHaveThisPower is framed as a bad thing]] with the two turning into {{Well Intentioned Extremist}}s, adding a layer of consistency to the show's moral.
** But even this falls flat in the season finale. [[spoiler:Hughie's motivation for becoming an EmpoweredBadassNormal is that he felt guilty and emasculated for being unable to protect the woman he loved, with Starlight trying to reassure him that he's fine the way he is. In the final fight against ArcVillain Soldier Boy he uses his wits to help her out from the sidelines, but this proves to be ineffective and nearly gets her killed with them being saved by Queen Maeve's PlotArmor, again reinforcing the idea that ordinary people are useless. Maeve adds insult to injury by directly playing into his insecurities and teasing him for being submissive, and Butcher & Hughie managed to accomplish more in the short time they had powers than the entire team did during all the years they worked together.]]
** Another issue with the show is that it frequently mocks corporations using progressivism to pander to audiences, only to engage in the same kind of behavior itself. In Season 2 they mocked the scene in ''Film/AvengersEndgame'' with all the female heroes standing side-by-side, only to emulate it themselves with Starlight, Kimiko, and Queen Maeve's NoHoldsBarredBeatdown of Stormfront.[[ArcVillain Stormfront]]. Season 2 also had Queen Maeve irritated with [[EvilInc Vought]] using her bisexuality as a selling point and giving her special treatment, [[spoiler:only for the show's writers to do the same thing and turn her into a KarmaHoudini with PlotArmor in the season 3 finale because they wanted to PreserveYourGays]].
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** Another issue with the show is that it frequently mocks corporations using progressivism to pander to audiences, only to engage in the same kind of behavior itself. In Season 2 they mocked the scene in ''Film/AvengersEndgame'' with all the female heroes standing side-by-side, only to emulate it themselves with Starlight, Kimiko, and Queen Maeve's NoHoldsBarredBeatdown of Stormfront. Season 2 also had Queen Maeve irritated with [[EvilInc Vought]] using her bisexuality as a selling point and giving her special treatment, [[spoiler:only for the show's writers to do the same thing and turn her into a KarmaHoudini with PlotArmor in the season 3 finale because they wanted to avoid a BuryYourGays scenario]].

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** Another issue with the show is that it frequently mocks corporations using progressivism to pander to audiences, only to engage in the same kind of behavior itself. In Season 2 they mocked the scene in ''Film/AvengersEndgame'' with all the female heroes standing side-by-side, only to emulate it themselves with Starlight, Kimiko, and Queen Maeve's NoHoldsBarredBeatdown of Stormfront. Season 2 also had Queen Maeve irritated with [[EvilInc Vought]] using her bisexuality as a selling point and giving her special treatment, [[spoiler:only for the show's writers to do the same thing and turn her into a KarmaHoudini with PlotArmor in the season 3 finale because they wanted to avoid a BuryYourGays scenario]].PreserveYourGays]].

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* ''Series/TheBoys2019'' is, per WordOfGod, supposed to be about blue-collar stiffs banding together and using grit and gumption to take on the PowersThatBe, but in the end, the Boys' quest to take down the Supers is only made possible by friendly external forces on the same physical or political power level as the Supers. The aesop becomes less "Ordinary people working together can do anything" and more "ordinary people need benevolent powers to protect them from malevolent ones".
** In Season 3 Butcher & Hughie become {{Empowered Badass Normal}}s like the [[ComicBook/TheBoys original comic]], but here their use of the SuperSerum [[NoManShouldHaveThisPower is framed as a bad thing]] with the two turning into {{Well Intentioned Extremist}}s, adding a layer of consistency to the show's moral.

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** A common moral of the series is essentially that actions have consequences, and that a ruler who ignores the desires of their governing agents or their people will not live long. This is seen in cases like how Joffrey's execution of Ned leads to massive backlash in the North, or how Robb disrespecting his vows to the Frey family causes them to turn traitor. However, this moral is broken completely by Cersei in the later seasons. Cersei kills the members of popular noble houses like the Tyrells, blows through money like water, relies on the loyalty of pirates and mercenaries, publicly humiliates loyal and beloved knights like Barristan, treats the smallfolk with utter contempt, and destroys the Sept of Baelor, essentially the main religious center of the Seven Kingdoms. By all sensible rights, she should be dealing with a ZeroPercentApprovalRating and be facing nigh-constant threats to her rule. And yet [[PlotArmor she faces no real internal tensions after the Sept's destruction, manages to win battles it makes little sense for her to win, and has a rather spurious claim on the throne be treated as ironclad]]. Characters frequently advise Dany to not try to conquer King's Landing because the people might not accept her as legitimate, even though they should be viewing ''anything'' as better than Cersei, and when Cersei is ultimately brought down, it is by [[OutsideContextProblem a wholly external threat]].
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** Season 3 makes an attempt to rectify this by turning the Boys into {{Empowered Badass Normal}}s like the [[ComicBook/TheBoys original comic]], but ultimately loops back into the same problem which they initially tried to avoid. By putting the Boys on the same physical power as the Supes it muddies the moral of "ordinary people can do anything", but nevertheless a marked improvement over them being almost {{Useless Protagonist}}s in Season 2.

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** In Season 3 makes an attempt to rectify this by turning the Boys into Butcher & Hughie become {{Empowered Badass Normal}}s like the [[ComicBook/TheBoys original comic]], but ultimately loops back here their use of the SuperSerum [[NoManShouldHaveThisPower is framed as a bad thing]] with the two turning into {{Well Intentioned Extremist}}s, adding a layer of consistency to the same problem which they initially tried to avoid. By putting the Boys on the same physical power as the Supes it muddies the moral of "ordinary people can do anything", but nevertheless a marked improvement over them being almost {{Useless Protagonist}}s in Season 2.show's moral.

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* ''Series/TheBoys2019'' is, per WordOfGod, supposed to be about blue-collar stiffs banding together and using grit and gumption to take on the PowersThatBe, but in the end, the Boys' quest to take down the Supers is only made possible by friendly external forces on the same physical or political power level as the Supers. The aesop becomes less "Ordinary people working together can do anything" and more "ordinary people need benevolent powers to protect them from malevolent ones". This was a failed attempt to improve upon the [[ComicBook/TheBoys original comic]]'s attempt at the same message which ultimately fell flat due to the Boys also having powers.

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* ''Series/TheBoys2019'' is, per WordOfGod, supposed to be about blue-collar stiffs banding together and using grit and gumption to take on the PowersThatBe, but in the end, the Boys' quest to take down the Supers is only made possible by friendly external forces on the same physical or political power level as the Supers. The aesop becomes less "Ordinary people working together can do anything" and more "ordinary people need benevolent powers to protect them from malevolent ones". This was a failed ones".
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attempt to improve upon rectify this by turning the Boys into {{Empowered Badass Normal}}s like the [[ComicBook/TheBoys original comic]]'s attempt at the same message which comic]], but ultimately fell flat due loops back into the same problem which they initially tried to avoid. By putting the Boys also having powers. on the same physical power as the Supes it muddies the moral of "ordinary people can do anything", but nevertheless a marked improvement over them being almost {{Useless Protagonist}}s in Season 2.
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** Much of the criticism of ''Glee'' stems from a perception that, despite its pro-tolerance and inclusive message, it frequently undercuts itself through the fact that many of its non-white and non-American characters are heavily stereotyped and often reduced to background roles, e.g. an Asian character freaking out over an A-, calling it an "Asian F". It also doesn't help matters that, while the show routinely condemns homophobia, biphobic or transphobic statements made in-universe go by almost entirely unchallenged. For instance, a lesbian dumps her bisexual girlfriend on the assumption that she would have eventually cheated with a man, and is never called out for it, and a transwoman forced to dress as a man on school property is basically told to suck it up. In another instance, Kurt--who's [[CreatorsPet the show's poster boy]] for "Don't mock/bully/harm gay people"--becomes upset when Blaine thinks he might be bisexual after kissing Rachel while drunk. Kurt (remember--the one who tells us that bullying is never, ever, ever, ever right) ''outright says that's impossible'', and that [[NoBisexuals bisexual men are clearly just gay guys who don't want to admit it]]. Blaine tries to speak up for himself, but Kurt keeps shooting him down. And guess who's proven right in the end? Kurt, of course! Because Blaine was gay all along!

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** Much of the criticism of ''Glee'' stems from a perception that, despite its pro-tolerance and inclusive message, it frequently undercuts itself through the fact that many of its non-white and non-American characters are heavily stereotyped and often reduced to background roles, e.g. an Asian character freaking out over an A-, calling it an "Asian F". It also doesn't help matters that, while the show routinely condemns homophobia, biphobic or transphobic statements made in-universe go by almost entirely unchallenged. For instance, a lesbian dumps her bisexual girlfriend on the assumption that she would have eventually cheated with a man, and is never called out for it, and a transwoman trans girl forced to dress as a man on school property is basically told to suck it up. In another instance, Kurt--who's [[CreatorsPet the show's poster boy]] for "Don't mock/bully/harm gay people"--becomes upset when Blaine thinks he might be bisexual after kissing Rachel while drunk. Kurt (remember--the one who tells us that bullying is never, ever, ever, ever right) ''outright says that's impossible'', and that [[NoBisexuals bisexual men are clearly just gay guys who don't want to admit it]]. Blaine tries to speak up for himself, but Kurt keeps shooting him down. And guess who's proven right in the end? Kurt, of course! Because Blaine was gay all along!
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** At the end of "[[Recap/StarTrekVoyagerS3E25S4E1Scorpion Scorpion Part 2]]", Janeways says that they have something the Borg could never offer; Friendship. For the next 4 years or so, Seven of Nine faces prejudice from her crewmates for being a Borg. So much for the diverse utopia of Star Trek.
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* One way that the characters in ''Series/{{Salem}}'' were supposed to be seen as morally grey is that the witchhunters often employ some very mean ways to identify and catch witches. Unfortunately, witches are ''real'' in-universe, and identifying them stops them from killing people and summoning Satan. In real life, Witch trials were bad because they targeted ''innocent people''. While the methods may seem barbaric, they absolutely ''need'' to catch witches because Witches can cause mroe harm.
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** More often the Aesop is played straight, as MacGyver will more often throw a gun away or ignore it.
** In one Very Special Episode, it's revealed that MacGyver's gun phobia is due to a childhood accident in which one of his friends was accidentally shot.

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** More often the Aesop is played straight, as MacGyver [=MacGyver=] will more often throw a gun away or ignore it.
** In one Very Special Episode, it's revealed that MacGyver's [=MacGyver=]'s gun phobia is due to a childhood accident in which one of his friends was accidentally shot.
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** The ''Zero-One Others'' V-Cinemas attempt to reinforce the series' CycleofRevenge moral by introducing vilains that operate outside of it, only to glorify said cycle instead. Kamen Rider Metsubojinrai [[spoiler: is implied by Isamu to be performing a GenghisGambit to turn both Humans and Humagears against it to broker peace]], yet the Rider gestalt is [[AIIsACrapshoot such a single-minded program]] that it's only [[KnightTemplar engaged in its own revenge against ZAIA and its components]],[[note]]influenced by the savior-complex-coded Mass Brain Key - something [[FailedASpotCheck nobody thinks to look into in the second film]] despite [[spoiler: Lyon Arkland making no effort to hide his involvement in what's going on and Fuwa being witness to his death at the gestalt's hands]].[[/note]] killing a bunch of people in its rampage against the factions and planting other seeds of revenge in both the Solds (who briefly rebel against humans in its name but [[spoiler: are snapped out of it]]) and by the end of the film, [[spoiler: the Defense Minister]]. ([[CreateYourOwnVillain Who the film makes clear will be lobbying against A.I.]]) The Rider effectively creates the very problem it wanted to solve, yet the destruction of most of the cast ([[FridgeLogic and by extension, most outlets for Humagears in trouble]]) is treated as the unsung solution to everyone's problems by the film's ending in an attempt to tie it all together; effectively vindicating the CycleOfRevenge [[spoiler: [[SpecialAesopVictim the films killed most of the cast]]]] to frame as a bad thing. [[spoiler: Isamu, ZAIA and Metsubojinrai]] are gone though, so [[SarcasmMode clearly world peace is on the way]].[[note]]Except ''Presidents'' indicates [[spoiler: The Ark]] is alive, so...[[ShootThShaggyDog nothing was accomplished anyway]].[[/note]]

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** The ''Zero-One Others'' V-Cinemas attempt to reinforce the series' CycleofRevenge moral by introducing vilains that operate outside of it, only to glorify said cycle instead. Kamen Rider Metsubojinrai [[spoiler: is implied by Isamu to be performing a GenghisGambit to turn both Humans and Humagears against it to broker peace]], yet the Rider gestalt is [[AIIsACrapshoot such a single-minded program]] that it's only [[KnightTemplar engaged in its own revenge against ZAIA and its components]],[[note]]influenced by the savior-complex-coded Mass Brain Key - something [[FailedASpotCheck nobody thinks to look into in the second film]] despite [[spoiler: Lyon Arkland making no effort to hide his involvement in what's going on and Fuwa being witness to his death at the gestalt's hands]].[[/note]] killing a bunch of people in its rampage against the factions and planting other seeds of revenge in both the Solds (who briefly rebel against humans in its name but [[spoiler: are snapped out of it]]) and by the end of the film, [[spoiler: the Defense Minister]]. ([[CreateYourOwnVillain Who the film makes clear will be lobbying against A.I.]]) The Rider effectively creates the very problem it wanted to solve, yet the destruction of most of the cast ([[FridgeLogic and by extension, most outlets for Humagears in trouble]]) is treated as the unsung solution to everyone's problems by the film's ending in an attempt to tie it all together; effectively vindicating the CycleOfRevenge [[spoiler: [[SpecialAesopVictim the films killed most of the cast]]]] to frame as a bad thing. [[spoiler: Isamu, ZAIA and Metsubojinrai]] are gone though, so [[SarcasmMode clearly world peace is on the way]].[[note]]Except ''Presidents'' indicates [[spoiler: The Ark]] is alive, so...[[ShootThShaggyDog [[ShootTheShaggyDog nothing was accomplished anyway]].[[/note]]
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** The ''Zero-One Others'' V-Cinemas attempt to reinforce the series' CycleofRevenge moral by introducing vilains that operate outside of it, only to glorify said cycle instead. Kamen Rider Metsubojinrai [[spoiler: is implied by Isamu to be performing a GenghisGambit to turn both Humans and Humagears against it to broker peace]], yet the Rider gestalt is [[AIIsACrapshoot such a single-minded program]] that it's only [[KnightTemplar engaged in its own revenge against ZAIA and its components]],[[note]]influenced by the savior-complex-coded Mass Brain Key - something [[FailedASpotCheck nobody thinks to look into in the second film]] despite [[spoiler: Lyon Arkland making no effort to hide his involvement in what's going on and Fuwa being witness to his death at the gestalt's hands]].[[/note]] killing a bunch of people in its rampage against the factions and planting other seeds of revenge in both the Solds (who briefly rebel against humans in its name but [[spoiler: are snapped out of it]]) and by the end of the film, [[spoiler: the Defense Minister]]. ([[CreateYourOwnVillain Who the film makes clear will be lobbying against A.I.]]) The Rider effectively creates the very problem it wanted to solve, yet the destruction of most of the cast ([[FridgeLogic and by extension, most outlets for Humagears in trouble]]) is treated as a positive by the film's ending in an attempt to tie it all together; effectively vindicating the CycleOfRevenge [[spoiler: [[SpecialAesopVictim the films kill most of the cast]]]] to frame as a bad thing. The films try to subvert the standard revenge morals by demonstrating how people can exploit them, but in the end it's a creature unwillingly partaking IN that cycle that's heralded as having saved the day. [[spoiler: Isamu, ZAIA and Metsubojinrai]] are gone though, so [[SarcasmMode clearly world peace is on the way]].[[note]]Except ''Presidents indicates [[spoiler: The Ark]] is alive, so...nothing was accomplished anyway.[[/note]]

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** The ''Zero-One Others'' V-Cinemas attempt to reinforce the series' CycleofRevenge moral by introducing vilains that operate outside of it, only to glorify said cycle instead. Kamen Rider Metsubojinrai [[spoiler: is implied by Isamu to be performing a GenghisGambit to turn both Humans and Humagears against it to broker peace]], yet the Rider gestalt is [[AIIsACrapshoot such a single-minded program]] that it's only [[KnightTemplar engaged in its own revenge against ZAIA and its components]],[[note]]influenced by the savior-complex-coded Mass Brain Key - something [[FailedASpotCheck nobody thinks to look into in the second film]] despite [[spoiler: Lyon Arkland making no effort to hide his involvement in what's going on and Fuwa being witness to his death at the gestalt's hands]].[[/note]] killing a bunch of people in its rampage against the factions and planting other seeds of revenge in both the Solds (who briefly rebel against humans in its name but [[spoiler: are snapped out of it]]) and by the end of the film, [[spoiler: the Defense Minister]]. ([[CreateYourOwnVillain Who the film makes clear will be lobbying against A.I.]]) The Rider effectively creates the very problem it wanted to solve, yet the destruction of most of the cast ([[FridgeLogic and by extension, most outlets for Humagears in trouble]]) is treated as a positive the unsung solution to everyone's problems by the film's ending in an attempt to tie it all together; effectively vindicating the CycleOfRevenge [[spoiler: [[SpecialAesopVictim the films kill killed most of the cast]]]] to frame as a bad thing. The films try to subvert the standard revenge morals by demonstrating how people can exploit them, but in the end it's a creature unwillingly partaking IN that cycle that's heralded as having saved the day.thing. [[spoiler: Isamu, ZAIA and Metsubojinrai]] are gone though, so [[SarcasmMode clearly world peace is on the way]].[[note]]Except ''Presidents ''Presidents'' indicates [[spoiler: The Ark]] is alive, so...[[ShootThShaggyDog nothing was accomplished anyway.anyway]].[[/note]]
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** The ''Zero-One Others'' V-Cinemas attempt to reinforce the series' CycleofRevenge moral, but end up glorifying it instead. Kamen Rider Metsubojinrai [[spoiler: is implied by Isamu to be performing a GenghisGambit to turn both Humans and Humagears against it to broker peace]], yet the Rider gestalt is [[AIIsACrapshoot such a single-minded program]] that it's only [[KnightTemplar engaged in its own revenge against ZAIA and its components]],[[note]]influenced by the Mass Brain Key - something [[FailedASpotCheck nobody thinks to look into in the second film]] despite [[spoiler: Lyon Arkland making no effort to hide his involvement in what's going on and Fuwa being witness to his death at the gestalt's hands]].[[/note]] killing a bunch of people and planting the same seeds of revenge in both the Solds (who briefly rebel in its name but [[spoiler: are snapped out of it]]) and by the end of the film, [[spoiler: the Defense Minister]]. ([[CreateYourOwnVillain Who the film makes clear will be lobbying against A.I.]]) The Rider effectively created the very problem it wanted to solve. Worst yet, the destruction of most of the cast ([[FridgeLogic and by extension, most outlets for Humagears in trouble]]) is treated as a positive by the film's ending in an attempt to tie everything together; effectively vindicating the CycleOfRevenge [[SpecialAesopVictim the films killed most of the cast]] to frame as bad. Revenge is bad [[SarcasmMode unless something good comes out of it]], then ViolenceReallyIsTheAnswer.

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** The ''Zero-One Others'' V-Cinemas attempt to reinforce the series' CycleofRevenge moral, but end up glorifying it moral by introducing vilains that operate outside of it, only to glorify said cycle instead. Kamen Rider Metsubojinrai [[spoiler: is implied by Isamu to be performing a GenghisGambit to turn both Humans and Humagears against it to broker peace]], yet the Rider gestalt is [[AIIsACrapshoot such a single-minded program]] that it's only [[KnightTemplar engaged in its own revenge against ZAIA and its components]],[[note]]influenced by the savior-complex-coded Mass Brain Key - something [[FailedASpotCheck nobody thinks to look into in the second film]] despite [[spoiler: Lyon Arkland making no effort to hide his involvement in what's going on and Fuwa being witness to his death at the gestalt's hands]].[[/note]] killing a bunch of people in its rampage against the factions and planting the same other seeds of revenge in both the Solds (who briefly rebel against humans in its name but [[spoiler: are snapped out of it]]) and by the end of the film, [[spoiler: the Defense Minister]]. ([[CreateYourOwnVillain Who the film makes clear will be lobbying against A.I.]]) The Rider effectively created creates the very problem it wanted to solve. Worst yet, solve, yet the destruction of most of the cast ([[FridgeLogic and by extension, most outlets for Humagears in trouble]]) is treated as a positive by the film's ending in an attempt to tie everything it all together; effectively vindicating the CycleOfRevenge [[spoiler: [[SpecialAesopVictim the films killed kill most of the cast]] cast]]]] to frame as bad. Revenge is a bad thing. The films try to subvert the standard revenge morals by demonstrating how people can exploit them, but in the end it's a creature unwillingly partaking IN that cycle that's heralded as having saved the day. [[spoiler: Isamu, ZAIA and Metsubojinrai]] are gone though, so [[SarcasmMode unless something good comes out of it]], then ViolenceReallyIsTheAnswer.clearly world peace is on the way]].[[note]]Except ''Presidents indicates [[spoiler: The Ark]] is alive, so...nothing was accomplished anyway.[[/note]]
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** The ''Zero-One Others'' V-Cinemas attempt to reinforce the series' CycleofRevenge moral, but end up glorifying it instead. Kamen Rider Metsubojinrai [[spoiler: is implied by Isamu to be performing a GenghisGambit to turn both Humans and Humagears against it to broker peace]], yet the Rider gestalt is [[AIIsACrapshoot such a single-minded program]] that it's only [[KnightTemplar engaged in its own revenge against ZAIA and its components]],[[note]]influenced by the Mass Brain Key - something [[FailedASpotCheck nobody thinks to look into in the second film]] despite [[spoiler: Lyon Arkland making no effort to hide his involvement in what's going on and Fuwa being witness to his death at the gestalt's hands]].[[/note]] killing a bunch of people and planting the same seeds of revenge in both the Solds (who briefly rebel in its name but [[spoiler: are snapped out of it]]) and by the end of the film, [[spoiler: the Defense Minister]]. ([[CreateYourOwnVillain Who the film makes clear will be lobbying against A.I.]]) The Rider effectively created the very problem it wanted to solve. Worst yet, the destruction of most of the cast ([[FridgeLogic and by extension, most outlets for Humagears in trouble]]) is treated as a positive by the film's ending in an attempt to tie everything together; effectively vindicating the CycleOfRevenge [[SpecialAesopVictim the films killed most of the cast]] to frame as bad. Revenge is bad [[SarcasmMode unless something good comes out of it]], then ViolenceReallyIsTheAnswer.
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* Subverted in-universe in the ''Series/ArrestedDevelopment'' episode "Notapusy". Maeby enters an "inner beauty pageant" disguised and in a wheelchair in order to demonstrate that it's just like any other beauty pageant. She doesn't think she'll even be allowed to compete, but ends up winning as her attempts to sabotage herself only advance her further, culminating in her standing up to try to prove herself a fraud, which the judges interpret as a miracle and a divine sign that she deserves to win.
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* Mexican's ''Series/LaRosaDeGuadalupe'' it's supposed to give valour and ethics to the people but it manages to screw things so bad more times than not, at times like in a Chick strip the bad guy will repent and get a happy ending with some innocent dying in the process, others with clear "CriticalResearchFailure" scenarios, and one particular time with all of the people about to get killed saved by nothing but a miracle which in a country like Mexico sounds cruel and unnecessary.

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* Mexican's ''Series/LaRosaDeGuadalupe'' it's supposed to give valour and ethics to the people but it manages to screw things so bad more times than not, at times like in a Chick strip the bad guy will repent and get a happy ending with some innocent dying in the process, others with clear "CriticalResearchFailure" scenarios, and one particular time with all of the people about to get killed saved by nothing but a miracle which in a country like Mexico sounds cruel and unnecessary.
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It has to be broken within the work itself, real life falls under Undermined By Reality.


* ''Series/TheBoys2019'' is, per WordOfGod, supposed to be about blue-collar stiffs banding together and using grit and gumption to take on the PowersThatBe, but in the end, the Boys' quest to take down the Supers is only made possible by friendly external forces on the same physical or political power level as the Supers. The aesop becomes less "Ordinary people working together can do anything" and more "ordinary people need benevolent powers to protect them from malevolent ones". This was a failed attempt to improve upon the [[ComicBook/TheBoys original comic]]'s attempt at the same message which ultimately fell flat due to the Boys also having powers. Plus, the franchise as a whole was intended to be a scathing countercultural critique of corporate underhandedness, but the show is produced by [[Creator/{{Amazon}} one of America's most infamous megacorps]], making it [[RuleAbidingRebel the thing the source material once parodied]].

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* ''Series/TheBoys2019'' is, per WordOfGod, supposed to be about blue-collar stiffs banding together and using grit and gumption to take on the PowersThatBe, but in the end, the Boys' quest to take down the Supers is only made possible by friendly external forces on the same physical or political power level as the Supers. The aesop becomes less "Ordinary people working together can do anything" and more "ordinary people need benevolent powers to protect them from malevolent ones". This was a failed attempt to improve upon the [[ComicBook/TheBoys original comic]]'s attempt at the same message which ultimately fell flat due to the Boys also having powers. Plus, the franchise as a whole was intended to be a scathing countercultural critique of corporate underhandedness, but the show is produced by [[Creator/{{Amazon}} one of America's most infamous megacorps]], making it [[RuleAbidingRebel the thing the source material once parodied]].
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* ''Series/TheBoys2019'' is, per WordOfGod, supposed to be about blue-collar stiffs banding together and using grit and gumption to take on the PowersThatBe, but in the end, the Boys' quest to take down the Supers is only made possible by friendly external forces on the same physical or political power level as the Supers. The aesop becomes less "Ordinary people working together can do anything" and more "ordinary people need benevolent powers to protect them from malevolent ones". This was a failed attempt to improve upon the [[ComicBook/TheBoys original comic]]'s attempt at the same message which ultimately fell flat due to the Boys also having powers. Plus, the franchise as a whole was intended to be a scathing countercultural critique of corporate underhandedness, but the show produced by [[Creator/{{Amazon}} one of America's most infamous megacorps]] and has [[RuleAbidingRebel become the thing the source material once parodied]].

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* ''Series/TheBoys2019'' is, per WordOfGod, supposed to be about blue-collar stiffs banding together and using grit and gumption to take on the PowersThatBe, but in the end, the Boys' quest to take down the Supers is only made possible by friendly external forces on the same physical or political power level as the Supers. The aesop becomes less "Ordinary people working together can do anything" and more "ordinary people need benevolent powers to protect them from malevolent ones". This was a failed attempt to improve upon the [[ComicBook/TheBoys original comic]]'s attempt at the same message which ultimately fell flat due to the Boys also having powers. Plus, the franchise as a whole was intended to be a scathing countercultural critique of corporate underhandedness, but the show is produced by [[Creator/{{Amazon}} one of America's most infamous megacorps]] and has megacorps]], making it [[RuleAbidingRebel become the thing the source material once parodied]].
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* ''Series/TheBoys2019'' is, per WordOfGod, supposed to be about blue-collar stiffs banding together and using grit and gumption to take on the PowersThatBe, but in the end, the Boys' quest to take down the Supers is only made possible by friendly external forces on the same physical or political power level as the Supers. The aesop becomes less "Ordinary people working together can do anything" and more "ordinary people need benevolent powers to protect them from malevolent ones". This was a failed attempt to improve upon the [[ComicBook/TheBoys original comic]]'s attempt at the same message which ultimately fell flat due to the Boys also having powers.

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* ''Series/TheBoys2019'' is, per WordOfGod, supposed to be about blue-collar stiffs banding together and using grit and gumption to take on the PowersThatBe, but in the end, the Boys' quest to take down the Supers is only made possible by friendly external forces on the same physical or political power level as the Supers. The aesop becomes less "Ordinary people working together can do anything" and more "ordinary people need benevolent powers to protect them from malevolent ones". This was a failed attempt to improve upon the [[ComicBook/TheBoys original comic]]'s attempt at the same message which ultimately fell flat due to the Boys also having powers. Plus, the franchise as a whole was intended to be a scathing countercultural critique of corporate underhandedness, but the show produced by [[Creator/{{Amazon}} one of America's most infamous megacorps]] and has [[RuleAbidingRebel become the thing the source material once parodied]].
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* ''Series/TheBoys'' is, per WordOfGod, supposed to be about blue-collar stiffs banding together and using grit and gumption to take on the PowersThatBe, but in the end, the Boys' quest to take down the Supers is only made possible by friendly external forces on the same physical or political power level as the Supers. The aesop becomes less "Ordinary people working together can do anything" and more "ordinary people need benevolent powers to protect them from malevolent ones". This was a failed attempt to improve upon the [[ComicBook/TheBoys original comic]]'s attempt at the same message which ultimately fell flat due to the Boys also having powers.

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* ''Series/TheBoys'' ''Series/TheBoys2019'' is, per WordOfGod, supposed to be about blue-collar stiffs banding together and using grit and gumption to take on the PowersThatBe, but in the end, the Boys' quest to take down the Supers is only made possible by friendly external forces on the same physical or political power level as the Supers. The aesop becomes less "Ordinary people working together can do anything" and more "ordinary people need benevolent powers to protect them from malevolent ones". This was a failed attempt to improve upon the [[ComicBook/TheBoys original comic]]'s attempt at the same message which ultimately fell flat due to the Boys also having powers.
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* ''Series/TheBoys'' is, per WordOfGod, supposed to be about blue-collar stiffs banding together and using grit and gumption to take on the PowersThatBe, but in the end, the Boys quest to take down the Supers is only made possible by friendly external forces on the same physical or political power level as the Supers. The aesop becomes less "Ordinary people working together can do anything" and more "ordinary people need benevolent powers to protect them from malevolent ones".

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* ''Series/TheBoys'' is, per WordOfGod, supposed to be about blue-collar stiffs banding together and using grit and gumption to take on the PowersThatBe, but in the end, the Boys Boys' quest to take down the Supers is only made possible by friendly external forces on the same physical or political power level as the Supers. The aesop becomes less "Ordinary people working together can do anything" and more "ordinary people need benevolent powers to protect them from malevolent ones". This was a failed attempt to improve upon the [[ComicBook/TheBoys original comic]]'s attempt at the same message which ultimately fell flat due to the Boys also having powers.
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** One RippedFromTheHeadlines episode revolved around the "[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incel incel]]" Internet subculture of lonely men who often [[EntitledToHaveYou blame society and women for their romantic difficulties]]. Fin comments that if their virginity bothers them that much they should just hire a prostitute, ignoring the fact that he and his coworkers regularly arrest people for doing exactly that.

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* ''Series/TheBoys'' is, per WordOfGod, supposed to be about blue-collar stiffs banding together and using grit and gumption to take on the PowersThatBe, but in the end, the Boys quest to take down the Supers is only made possible by friendly external forces on the same physical or political power level.level as the Supers. The aesop becomes less "Ordinary people working together can do anything" and more "ordinary people need benevolent powers to protect them from malevolent ones".
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I'm not sure how that's hypocritical, since they're lesbians to whom that slur's applied more.


* ''Series/TheLWord'' constantly defended itself from being just a cash cow pandering to the straight male demographic, while featuring extensive sex scenes between women and restricting gay guys to extras. Let's just say most of the so-called [=PSAs=] in the show never really got much impact. Even better, the following line, spoken by Jenny after tasering a ''homophobic bully'' no less, is one of the most hypocritical things to say in a minority show:
--->'''Jenny:''' We're dykes, not fags.

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* ''Series/TheLWord'' constantly defended itself from being just a cash cow pandering to the straight male demographic, while featuring extensive sex scenes between women and restricting gay guys to extras. Let's just say most of the so-called [=PSAs=] in the show never really got much impact. Even better, the following line, spoken by Jenny after tasering a ''homophobic bully'' no less, is one of the most hypocritical things to say in a minority show:
--->'''Jenny:''' We're dykes, not fags.

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