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* ''Fanfic/RunawayWind'': After Leon chews Ven out for rescuing Naminé from Castle Oblivion, Ven eventually acknowledges that Leon's concerns aren't entirely unfounded. Yes, things worked out, but Leon isn't wrong that he had no way of knowing whether Naminé was trustworthy. Had she been manipulating him, it all could have turned out ''significantly'' worse.



* ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11594010/1 It's Complicated]]'' kicks off with Chat Noir publicly declaring his love for Ladybug during a livestream on the Ladyblog, while Ladybug's transformation timer is about to run out. She once again tells him that she likes someone else, then leaves. Marinette is shocked when the whole class sides with the clearly dejected Chat Noir, calling her cold and callous. She points out that he put her on the spot, ''knowing'' she needed to leave; after rewatching the video, Alya concedes the point, as does Chat Noir, who apologizes at their next meeting. Ladybug apologizes in turn, realizing he was sincere and that this was affecting their partnership.

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* ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11594010/1 It's Complicated]]'' kicks off with Chat Noir publicly declaring his love for Ladybug during a livestream on the Ladyblog, while Ladybug's transformation timer is about to run out. She once again tells reminds him that she's already told him that she likes someone else, then leaves. somebody else before leaving. The next day, Marinette is shocked when the whole class sides with the clearly dejected Chat Noir, calling her Ladybug cold and callous. She points out that he put her on the spot, ''knowing'' both that she needed to leave; after leave and that she'd already told him that she didn't return his feelings. After rewatching the video, Alya concedes the point, as does and Chat Noir, who Noir apologizes at their next meeting. Ladybug apologizes in turn, realizing he was sincere and that this was affecting their partnership.



* ''Fanfic/LiesOfAttrition'': Both Ladybug and Chat Noir make valid points in regards to their motives: as Chat Noir points out, the Wish was the thing they'd been fighting for so long to ''prevent,'' and now Ladybug wants to ''preserve'' Monarque's Wish without telling him the details about it, but as Ladybug points out, undoing the Wish would mean re-condemning someone (namely Nathalie) to death.

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* ''Fanfic/LiesOfAttrition'': Both Ladybug and Chat Noir make valid points in regards to their motives: as Chat Noir points out, the Wish was the thing they'd been fighting for so long to ''prevent,'' ''prevent'', and now Ladybug wants to ''preserve'' Monarque's Wish without telling him the details about it, but as Ladybug points out, undoing the Wish would mean re-condemning someone (namely Nathalie) to death.




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* ''Fanfic/VeeForVendetta'': Veggie Vee wants to promote healthier eating habits in Ponyville, while Pinkie Pie wants everyone to have the freedom to eat whatever they choose. Both go increasingly overboard in promoting their respective viewpoints, with Veggie eventually [[TyrantTakesTheHelm taking over Ponyville]].



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* ''Fanfic/TwosACrowd'': During the original Luz and 'Luz'/Lus argument in chapter 9 the POV shifts between the two of them and from their respective perspectives they both have valid points even if 'Luz'/Lus ultimately has the moral high ground. From the original Luz's perspective 'Luz'/Lus is coming out of nowhere saying they have a right to 'their' life so it's understandable that the original Luz would be defensive of the clone trying to live any part of her life. While from 'Luz'/Lus perspective she is just trying to find a compromise that will let her live, has no intention of taking over the original's life and the original Luz is being a bit of a hypocrite by making a fuss over it.

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* ''Fanfic/TwosACrowd'': During the original Luz and 'Luz'/Lus "Luz"/Lus argument in chapter 9 9, the POV shifts between the two of them and from their respective perspectives they both have valid points even if 'Luz'/Lus "Luz"/Lus ultimately has the moral high ground. From the original Luz's perspective 'Luz'/Lus perspective, "Luz"/Lus is coming out of nowhere saying they have a right to 'their' life their life, so it's understandable that the original Luz would be defensive of the clone trying to live any part of her life. While from 'Luz'/Lus perspective "Luz"/Lus' perspective, she is just trying to find a compromise that will let her live, has no intention of taking over the original's life and the original Luz is being a bit of a hypocrite by making a fuss over it.

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** [[spoiler:Stolas, Rufus and I.M.P. are all furious when they learn that Lucifer knew about the true cause of the Uproar and Octavia being abducted by Mother. They insist that he should've done more to attempt to prevent the calamity or at least warn his people about them, as him withholding the information caused the ruin of several cities and the loss of thousands. However Lucifer stands by his decision, knowing that his people would be unable to understand of comprehend the existence of such otherworldly horror and at worst would attempt to join the cause to free her, thus causing even more chaos and disorder; and possibly turn his people against him.]]

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** [[spoiler:Stolas, Stolas, Rufus and I.M.P. are all furious when they learn that Lucifer knew about the true cause of the Uproar and Octavia [[spoiler:Octavia being abducted by Mother.Mother]]. They insist that he should've done more to attempt to prevent the calamity or at least warn his people about them, as him withholding the information caused the ruin of several cities and the loss of thousands. However However, Lucifer stands by his decision, knowing that his [[spoiler:his people would be unable to understand of comprehend the existence of such otherworldly horror and at worst would attempt to join the cause to free her, thus causing even more chaos and disorder; and possibly turn his people against him.]]
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* ''Webcomic/FeralnetteAU'': During the ''Birds of a Feather'' arc, Marinette is injured while protecting some fleeing ballet students from the [[VillainOfTheWeek latest akuma]]. Alya scolds her for being so reckless, only for Marinette to observe how hypocritical it is for the Ladyblogger to berate her for protecting others when she's constantly endangering herself ''and others'' while GoingForTheBigScoop. While Marinette is right that Alya has some SkewedPriorities and isn't very good about [[DidntThinkThisThrough considering the impact her actions have upon others]], she also fails to see that Alya is sincerely worried about her, mistaking her AngerBornOfWorry for just plain ''anger''.
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* ''Fanfic/LiesOfAttrition'': Both Ladybug and Chat Noir make valid points in regards to their motives: as Chat Noir points out, the Wish was the thing they'd been fighting for so long to ''prevent,'' and now Ladybug wants to ''preserve'' Monarque's Wish without telling him the details about it, but as Ladybug points out, undoing the Wish would mean re-condemning someone (namely Nathalie) to death.
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* ''Fanfic/WilhuffTarkinHeroOfTheRebellion'': In a pre-Clone Wars segment Tarkin and Padme discuss the Military Creation Act: while they and their respective factions agree the Judicials have failed to enforce the law and protect the hyperlanes and that a large fleet of proto-Star Destroyers would be wasteful (Tarkin believes that, as long as there's not a war, a "mere" few hundreds can serve as deterrent from extra-galactic incursions), Tarkin believes a proper navy is necessary as soon as possible, while Padme is worried that creating one during the Separatist Crisis could precipitate a war.
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* ''Fanfic/ShadowsOverMeridian'':
** When Jade and a captive [[spoiler:Vathek]] debate her plans and goals in Chapter 24, she admits that he's right that Phobos is a self-serving tyrant who can't be completely trusted, but counters that it doesn't change the fact that Elyon was never properly prepared to rule, something that [[spoiler:Vathek]] reluctantly concedes.
** In Chapter 34, Phobos and the rebel Ilitia argue the merits of his reign vs Elyon's; he admits to many of the more aggressive actions he either ordered or allowed to happen under his rule, but points out that [[FullCircleRevolution the rebellion hasn't been that much better since ousting him]], something she can't deny.
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* ''Fanfic/TheChaoticMasters'': When arguing about why Uncle has never even considered teaching Jade magic, he says it's because she's too impulsive to be trusted with that kind of knowledge. And while he does cite some canonical incidents that support his point pretty well, it's also fairly strongly indicated that he's projecting some unrelated past incident onto the situation, causing him to unfairly judge Jade's capacity, as Jackie points out.
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* ''Fanfic/DodgedABeetle'': In this RoleSwapAU, Officer Raincromprix gets fired by the Mayor when he refuses to arrest Marinette and Lila after the latter calls out Chloe on tripping her friend. She's pissed off when Marinette resolves the issue by telling everyone she slipped, leading to a brief exchange where each acknowledges the other's point:
** Much as she wants Chloe to actually face consequences for her bullying, Marinette doesn't want an innocent man to lose his job over it. That's too high a price, even if she's not the one paying it.
** However, Lila counters that this means Chloe [[KarmaHoudini got away with it]] ''again'', and that her father's threats still worked.

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* ''Fanfic/DodgedABeetle'': In this RoleSwapAU, Officer Raincromprix gets fired by the Mayor when he refuses to arrest Marinette and Lila after the latter calls out Chloe Chloé on tripping her friend. She's pissed off when Marinette resolves the issue by telling everyone she slipped, leading to a brief exchange where each acknowledges the other's point:
** Much as she wants Chloe Chloé to actually face consequences for her bullying, Marinette doesn't want an innocent man to lose his job over it. That's too high a price, even if she's not the one paying it.
** However, Lila counters that this means Chloe Chloé [[KarmaHoudini got away with it]] ''again'', and that her father's threats still worked.
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* ''Fanfic/TruerThanFiction'': In “My Stepmother From Thailand Has a Surprise”, Emma and Mali both admit they made serious mistakes when trying to build a new family and are both trying to work through them.
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* ''[[Fanfic/MyDeepestDarkestSecret π•Έπ–ž π•―π–Šπ–Šπ–•π–Šπ–˜π–™, π•―π–†π–—π–π–Šπ–˜π–™ π•Ύπ–Šπ–ˆπ–—π–Šπ–™]]'': Seems to be a recurring theme in some of the arguments in the story.

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* ''[[Fanfic/MyDeepestDarkestSecret π•Έπ–ž π•―π–Šπ–Šπ–•π–Šπ–˜π–™, π•―π–†π–—π–π–Šπ–˜π–™ π•Ύπ–Šπ–ˆπ–—π–Šπ–™]]'': ''Fanfic/MyDeepestDarkestSecret'': Seems to be a recurring theme in some of the arguments in the story.
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* ''Fanfic/TwosACrowd'': During the original Luz and ‘Luz’/Lus argument in chapter 9 the POV shifts between the two of them and from their respective perspectives they both have valid points even if ‘Luz’/Lus ultimately has the moral high ground. From the original Luz’s perspective ‘Luz’/Lus is coming out of nowhere saying they have a right to ‘their’ life so it’s understandable that the original Luz would be defensive of the clone trying to live any part of her life. While from ‘Luz’/Lus perspective she is just trying to find a compromise that will let her live, has no intention of taking over the original’s life and the original Luz is being a bit of a hypocrite by making a fuss over it.
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-->'''Rukhash:''' I know my lot has always been a little...[[{{Understatement}} heavy handed]]...when it come to your folk-\\
'''Cadoc:''' A ''little'' heavy handed? [...] A ''little''! [...] Your ''lot'' has [[RapePillageAndBurn raped and murdered its way across my country]], and you consider that a ''little'' heavy handed? Do you know how many lives your kind has destroyed? How many sons and daughters your people have ravaged and maimed? I think you would choose your words more wisely if you saw the children orphaned and mothers now grieving for their sons, if it's even possible for your kind to feel an ounce of compassion at all.\\
'''Rukhash:''' What do you know about anything? [...] I were just a girl when [[TraumaCongaLine I lost my dad and mum and sisters and then my brother]] and ''then'', after it were all said and done and the War was finished your folk still wanted more. So I lose my clan and [[spoiler: my [[TheLostLenore mate]] ''and'' my [[OutlivingOnesOffspring whelps]]]] and now I'm here with ''nothing''. [...] I don't need to see them women or them kids because I ''was'' one!

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-->'''Rukhash:''' …I know… I know my lot has always been a little...[[{{Understatement}} little…[[{{Understatement}} heavy handed]]...when handed]]…when it come to your folk-\\
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'''Cadoc:''' A ''little'' heavy handed? [...] A ''little''! [...] ''little!'' Your ''lot'' has [[RapePillageAndBurn raped and murdered its way across my country]], and you consider that a ''little'' heavy handed? Do you know how many lives your kind has destroyed? How many sons and daughters your people have ravaged and maimed? I think you would choose your words more wisely if you saw the children orphaned and mothers now grieving for their sons, if it's even possible for your kind to feel an ounce of compassion at all.\\
'''Rukhash:''' What do you know about anything? [...] I were just a girl when [[TraumaCongaLine I lost my dad and mum and sisters and then my brother]] and ''then'', after it were all said and done and the War was finished your folk still wanted more. So I lose loose my clan and [[spoiler: my [[TheLostLenore my mate]] ''and'' my [[OutlivingOnesOffspring whelps]]]] my whelps]] and now I'm here with ''nothing''. [...] I don't need to see them women or them kids because I ''was'' one!
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* ''Fanfic/{{Spider-Ninja}}'': After Petra is approached by SHIELD and asked to attend a meeting, the turtles are divided as to what they think is the right course of action. Donatello thinks an alliance with SHIELD would be a good thing, seeing as how the tech and resources at the organization's disposal could give the family a lot of advantages (and SHIELD would be able to help them keep their existence a secret). Leonardo, on the other hand, is convinced the meeting is a trap, as SHIELD has been known to abduct/arrest vigilantes in the past. Donatello is right about an alliance with SHIELD giving the family a lot of benefits (including extra secrecy) while Leonardo is right in that SHIELD could be attempting to arrest/question them (as they have done so to other vigilantes in the past).

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