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* Varian Wrynn and Garrosh Hellscream were the two most prominent cases, one for being an angry post-LiteralSplitPersonality with one half being a slave to Orcs for quite some time, had his home destroyed by the orcs and his father betrayed by one even earlier and rather expectedly, is none too happy about them, and had been [[CharacterShilling shilled to a ridiculous degree]] [[MostWritersAreHuman by Blizzard]]. The other was a racist warmonger of questionable leadership skills who took over from the level-headed, peace-seeking, Thrall who somehow was a EmoTeen beating himself up barely a few years ago. Each were appointed the leader of their factions[[note]]It didn't help matters that in Varian's case, the Alliance hadn't had a formal leader in its "High King" in the same way that the Horde had a Warchief since the First War[[/note]] just so (as the developers have confessed) there would be a reason to justify an all-out war between the Horde and Alliance. In Varian's case, his sacrifice at the beginning of ''Legion'' did turn some of his detractors around. As for Garrosh, he did get [[CharacterPerceptionEvolution a change in perception]] due to how Sylvanas and Nathanos Blightcaller turned out in ''Battle for Azeroth''.
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* Varian Wrynn and Garrosh Hellscream were the two most prominent cases, one for being an angry post-LiteralSplitPersonality with one half being a slave to Orcs for quite some time, had his home destroyed by the orcs and his father betrayed by one even earlier and rather expectedly, is was none too happy about them, and had been [[CharacterShilling shilled to a ridiculous degree]] [[MostWritersAreHuman by Blizzard]]. The other was a racist warmonger of questionable leadership skills who took over from the level-headed, peace-seeking, Thrall who somehow was a EmoTeen beating himself up barely a few years ago. Each were appointed the leader of their factions[[note]]It didn't help matters that in Varian's case, the Alliance hadn't had a formal leader in its "High King" in the same way that the Horde had a Warchief since the First War[[/note]] just so (as the developers have confessed) there would be a reason to justify an all-out war between the Horde and Alliance. In Varian's case, his sacrifice at the beginning of ''Legion'' did turn some of his detractors around. As for Garrosh, he did get [[CharacterPerceptionEvolution a change in perception]] due to how Sylvanas and Nathanos Blightcaller turned out in ''Battle for Azeroth''.
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* Varian Wrynn and Garrosh Hellscream are were the two most prominent cases, one for being an angry post-LiteralSplitPersonality with one half being a slave to Orcs for quite some time, had his home destroyed by the orcs and his father betrayed by one even earlier and rather expectedly, is none too happy about them, and has recently being had been [[CharacterShilling shilled to a ridiculous degree]] [[MostWritersAreHuman by Blizzard]]. The other is was a racist warmonger of questionable leadership skills taking who took over from the level-headed, peace-seeking, Thrall who somehow was a EmoTeen beating himself up barely a few years ago. Each is were appointed the leader of their factions[[note]]It doesn't didn't help matters that in Varian's case, the Alliance hasn't hadn't had a formal leader in its "High King" in the same way that the Horde had a Warchief since the First War[[/note]] just so (as the developers have confessed) there would be a reason to justify an all-out war between the Horde and Alliance.Alliance. In Varian's case, his sacrifice at the beginning of ''Legion'' did turn some of his detractors around. As for Garrosh, he did get [[CharacterPerceptionEvolution a change in perception]] due to how Sylvanas and Nathanos Blightcaller turned out in ''Battle for Azeroth''.
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* Thrall as of ''Cataclysm''. A common fan sentiment is that they "like Thrall, but ''hate'' "Go'el"".
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* Jaina Proudmoore after ''Mists of Pandaria''. Some thinks that her CharacterDevelopment made sense as she saw everything she worked for peace destroyed in moments, because of the side she trusted as well. Others believe that it's a CharacterDevelopment gone wrong that it was delivered in breakneck speed and is always shoved to the players' throats, in addition of really going against her characterization in [=WC3=], being the woman who would be okay with her father being dead in order to ensure peace, now she's considered [[BecameTheirOwnAntithesis to be an insult to that]]. The anti-camp is more likely to be glad with the presence of ''VideoGame/HeroesOfTheStorm'' whereas Jaina there hasn't progressed to this base-breaking Jaina.
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* Jaina Proudmoore after ''Mists of Pandaria''. Some thinks that her CharacterDevelopment made sense as she saw everything she worked for peace destroyed in moments, because of the side she trusted as well. Others believe that it's a CharacterDevelopment gone wrong that it was delivered in breakneck speed and is always shoved to the players' throats, in addition of really going against her characterization in [=WC3=], ''[=WC3=]'', being the woman who would be okay with her father being dead in order to ensure peace, now she's considered [[BecameTheirOwnAntithesis to be an insult to that]]. The anti-camp is more likely to be glad with the presence of ''VideoGame/HeroesOfTheStorm'' whereas Jaina there hasn't progressed to this base-breaking Jaina.
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* Alleria Windrunner, largely because of her behavior in Three Sisters. Some believe Alleria to be a massive hypocrite for viewing Sylvanas as a monster entirely because of her Undeath (note, this is BEFORE Sylvanas' SanitySlippage in ''Battle for Azeroth'') and doesn't even try to reconnect with her, instead taking the first opportunity possible to denounce her as an "obscene mockery of (her) sister." Still others don't see it as an issue, considering Sylvanas has already been responsible for many atrocities by this point, and it doesn't help that she left the Alliance to join the Horde. Perception of Alleria is often dependent on how much one sympathizes with Sylvanas.
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* Alleria Windrunner, largely because of her behavior in Three Sisters. Some believe Alleria to be a massive hypocrite for viewing Sylvanas as a monster entirely because of her Undeath (note, this is BEFORE Sylvanas' SanitySlippage in ''Battle for Azeroth'') and doesn't even try to reconnect with her, instead taking the first opportunity possible to denounce her as an "obscene mockery of (her) sister." Still others don't see it as an issue, considering Sylvanas has already been responsible for many atrocities by this point, and it doesn't help that she left the Alliance to join the Horde. Perception of Alleria is often dependent on how much one sympathizes with Sylvanas.Sylvanas.
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* Taran Zhu was by far the most controversial and divisive of the new characters added in ''Mists of Pandaria''. While his grievances against the Alliance and the Horde bringing their war to Pandaria are completely valid (especially in regards to the Sha), many players took umbrage with how caustic, condescending and stubborn he was shown to be. Many Alliance players and fans also took issue with his repeated claims that the Alliance was just as responsible as the Horde for Pandaria's current crisis despite the Horde appearing to act ''far'' more aggressive and destructive throughout the expansion. The fact that, ultimately, ''he'' was the one who got to judge Garrosh instead of the people his crimes hurt the most (Jaina and Vol'jin in particular) was also a major sore spot for many.
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* Taran Zhu was by far the most controversial and divisive of the new characters added in ''Mists of Pandaria''. While his grievances against the Alliance and the Horde bringing their war to Pandaria are completely valid (especially in regards to the Sha), many players took umbrage with how caustic, condescending condescending, and stubborn he was shown to be. Many Alliance players and fans also took issue with his repeated claims that the Alliance was just as responsible as the Horde for Pandaria's current crisis despite the Horde appearing to act ''far'' more aggressive and destructive throughout the expansion. The fact that, ultimately, ''he'' was the one who got to judge Garrosh instead of the people his crimes hurt the most (Jaina and Vol'jin in particular) was also a major sore spot for many.
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* Alleria Windrunner, largely because of her behavior in Three Sisters. Some believe Alleria to be a massive hypocrite for viewing Sylvanas as a monster entirely because of her Undeath (note, this is BEFORE Sylvanas' SanitySlippage in ''Battle for Azeroth'') and doesn't even try to reconnect with her, instead taking the first opprotunity possible to denounce her as an "obscene mockery of (her) sister." Still others don't see it as an issue, considering Sylvanas has already been responsible for many atrocities by this point, and it doesn't help that she left the Alliance to join the Horde. Perception of Alleria is often dependent on how much one sympathizes with Sylvanas.
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* Alleria Windrunner, largely because of her behavior in Three Sisters. Some believe Alleria to be a massive hypocrite for viewing Sylvanas as a monster entirely because of her Undeath (note, this is BEFORE Sylvanas' SanitySlippage in ''Battle for Azeroth'') and doesn't even try to reconnect with her, instead taking the first opprotunity opportunity possible to denounce her as an "obscene mockery of (her) sister." Still others don't see it as an issue, considering Sylvanas has already been responsible for many atrocities by this point, and it doesn't help that she left the Alliance to join the Horde. Perception of Alleria is often dependent on how much one sympathizes with Sylvanas.
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* Alleria Windrunner, largely because of her behavior in Three Sisters. Some believe Alleria to be a massive hypocrite for viewing Sylvanas as a monster entirely because of her Undeath (note, this is BEFORE Sylvanas' SanitySlippage in ''Battle for Azeroth'') and doesn't even try to reconnect with her, instead taking the first opprotunity possible to denounce her as an "obscene mockery of (her) sister." Still others don't see it as an issue. Perception of Alleria is often dependant on how much one sympathizes with Sylvanas.
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* Alleria Windrunner, largely because of her behavior in Three Sisters. Some believe Alleria to be a massive hypocrite for viewing Sylvanas as a monster entirely because of her Undeath (note, this is BEFORE Sylvanas' SanitySlippage in ''Battle for Azeroth'') and doesn't even try to reconnect with her, instead taking the first opprotunity possible to denounce her as an "obscene mockery of (her) sister." Still others don't see it as an issue. issue, considering Sylvanas has already been responsible for many atrocities by this point, and it doesn't help that she left the Alliance to join the Horde. Perception of Alleria is often dependant dependent on how much one sympathizes with Sylvanas.
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* For Horde players, Calia Menethil, due to hints she might become [[spoiler:leader of the Forsaken]]. Some feel it makes sense as she is an undead who hasn't been involved in any morally shady business and is the last Menethil, particularly as in "Before the Storm", [[spoiler:many Forsaken outright asked her to rule them]]. Others hate the idea, saying she's an Alliance character and abandoned her people during the Scourge's march on Lordaeron. They also accuse Calia of "not fitting the theme of the Forsaken" for having found peace in undeath and not being "dark" enough.
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* For Horde players, Calia Menethil, due to hints she might become [[spoiler:leader of the Forsaken]]. Some feel it makes sense as she is an undead who hasn't been involved in any morally shady business and is the last Menethil, particularly as in "Before the Storm", [[spoiler:many Forsaken outright asked her to rule them]]. Others hate the idea, saying she's an Alliance character and abandoned her people during the Scourge's march on Lordaeron. They also accuse Calia of "not fitting the theme of the Forsaken" for having found peace in undeath and not being "dark" enough.enough.
* Alleria Windrunner, largely because of her behavior in Three Sisters. Some believe Alleria to be a massive hypocrite for viewing Sylvanas as a monster entirely because of her Undeath (note, this is BEFORE Sylvanas' SanitySlippage in ''Battle for Azeroth'') and doesn't even try to reconnect with her, instead taking the first opprotunity possible to denounce her as an "obscene mockery of (her) sister." Still others don't see it as an issue. Perception of Alleria is often dependant on how much one sympathizes with Sylvanas.
* Alleria Windrunner, largely because of her behavior in Three Sisters. Some believe Alleria to be a massive hypocrite for viewing Sylvanas as a monster entirely because of her Undeath (note, this is BEFORE Sylvanas' SanitySlippage in ''Battle for Azeroth'') and doesn't even try to reconnect with her, instead taking the first opprotunity possible to denounce her as an "obscene mockery of (her) sister." Still others don't see it as an issue. Perception of Alleria is often dependant on how much one sympathizes with Sylvanas.
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* Taran Zhu was by far the most controversial and divisive of the new characters added in ''Mists of Pandaria''. While his grievances against the Alliance and the Horde bringing their war to Pandaria are completely valid (especially in regards to the Sha), many players took umbrage with how caustic, condescending and stubborn he was shown to be. Many Alliance players and fans also took issue with his repeated claims that the Alliance was just as responsible as the Horde for Pandaria's current crisis despite the Horde appearing to act ''far'' more aggressive and destructive throughout the expansion.
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* Taran Zhu was by far the most controversial and divisive of the new characters added in ''Mists of Pandaria''. While his grievances against the Alliance and the Horde bringing their war to Pandaria are completely valid (especially in regards to the Sha), many players took umbrage with how caustic, condescending and stubborn he was shown to be. Many Alliance players and fans also took issue with his repeated claims that the Alliance was just as responsible as the Horde for Pandaria's current crisis despite the Horde appearing to act ''far'' more aggressive and destructive throughout the expansion. The fact that, ultimately, ''he'' was the one who got to judge Garrosh instead of the people his crimes hurt the most (Jaina and Vol'jin in particular) was also a major sore spot for many.
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* Priscilla Ashvane. While some think it's nice to ''finally'' see another human villain who wasn't corrupted by someone else (the first since [=VanCleef=]) in comparison to the other evil heads of house, others, however, think she's too ObviouslyEvil with her {{Gonk}}ish design and she [[AntiClimax was defeated too easily]]. However, [[AuthorsSavingThrow Tides of Vengeance reveals that she's not quite done]]...
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* Priscilla Ashvane. While some think it's nice to ''finally'' see another human villain who wasn't corrupted by someone else (the first since [=VanCleef=]) in comparison to the other evil heads of house, others, however, think she's too ObviouslyEvil with her {{Gonk}}ish design and she [[AntiClimax was defeated too easily]]. However, [[AuthorsSavingThrow Tides of Vengeance reveals that she's not quite done]]...done]]...
* For Horde players, Calia Menethil, due to hints she might become [[spoiler:leader of the Forsaken]]. Some feel it makes sense as she is an undead who hasn't been involved in any morally shady business and is the last Menethil, particularly as in "Before the Storm", [[spoiler:many Forsaken outright asked her to rule them]]. Others hate the idea, saying she's an Alliance character and abandoned her people during the Scourge's march on Lordaeron. They also accuse Calia of "not fitting the theme of the Forsaken" for having found peace in undeath and not being "dark" enough.
* For Horde players, Calia Menethil, due to hints she might become [[spoiler:leader of the Forsaken]]. Some feel it makes sense as she is an undead who hasn't been involved in any morally shady business and is the last Menethil, particularly as in "Before the Storm", [[spoiler:many Forsaken outright asked her to rule them]]. Others hate the idea, saying she's an Alliance character and abandoned her people during the Scourge's march on Lordaeron. They also accuse Calia of "not fitting the theme of the Forsaken" for having found peace in undeath and not being "dark" enough.
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* Arthas (as a Paladin), Varian, Garrosh, Sylvanas, and Gallywix.
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* Arthas (as a Paladin), Varian, Garrosh, Sylvanas, and Gallywix.Paladin). Was he a good but flawed person who fell prey to corruption, or was he always a bad person? Was purging Stratholme a ShootTheDog moment to prevent the spread of the plague, or did he reach the decision too easily? While it's generally agreed that he crosses the MoralEventHorizon [[ProtagonistJourneyToVillain over the course of his WC3 campaign]], not everyone agrees whether it was by purging Stratholme, having mercenaries burn his ships before using them as scapegoats, leaving Muradin for dead, or [[SelfMadeOrphan killing his father]].
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* Sky Admiral Rogers is becoming one. Either she's a [[FrontlineGeneral badass Alliance leader]] who actually values the safety of her own soldiers over the enemy's, while to others, she comes off as a war criminal for killing (apparently) surrendering Horde soldiers (who may very well have been [[PunchClockVillain drafted by Garrosh]]).
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* Sky Admiral Rogers is becoming one.quickly became one in ''Mists''. Either she's a [[FrontlineGeneral badass Alliance leader]] who actually values the safety of her own soldiers over the enemy's, while to others, she comes off as a war criminal for killing (apparently) surrendering Horde soldiers (who may very well have been [[PunchClockVillain drafted by Garrosh]]).
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* Rhonin is either a [[TheScrappy Scrappy]] or he's awesome.
* Varian Wrynn and Garrosh Hellscream are the two most prominent cases, one for being an angry post-LiteralSplitPersonality with one half being a slave to Orcs for quite some time, had his home destroyed by the orcs and his father betrayed by one even earlier and rather expectedly, is none too happy about them, and has recently being [[CharacterShilling shilled to a ridiculous degree]] [[MostWritersAreHuman by Blizzard]]. The other is a racist warmonger of questionable leadership skills taking over from the level-headed, peace-seeking, Thrall who somehow was a EmoTeen beating himself up barely a few years ago. Each is appointed the leader of their factions just so (as the developers have confessed) there would be a reason to justify an all-out war between the Horde and Alliance.
* Varian Wrynn and Garrosh Hellscream are the two most prominent cases, one for being an angry post-LiteralSplitPersonality with one half being a slave to Orcs for quite some time, had his home destroyed by the orcs and his father betrayed by one even earlier and rather expectedly, is none too happy about them, and has recently being [[CharacterShilling shilled to a ridiculous degree]] [[MostWritersAreHuman by Blizzard]]. The other is a racist warmonger of questionable leadership skills taking over from the level-headed, peace-seeking, Thrall who somehow was a EmoTeen beating himself up barely a few years ago. Each is appointed the leader of their factions just so (as the developers have confessed) there would be a reason to justify an all-out war between the Horde and Alliance.
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* Rhonin is either a [[TheScrappy Scrappy]] an overly powerful CreatorsPet of Richard Knaak who happened to hook up with one of the Windrunner sisters or he's awesome.
awesome. That said, his HeroicSacrifice in ''Tides of War'', which saved many lives, did help endear him to some of his former haters.
* Varian Wrynn and Garrosh Hellscream are the two most prominent cases, one for being an angry post-LiteralSplitPersonality with one half being a slave to Orcs for quite some time, had his home destroyed by the orcs and his father betrayed by one even earlier and rather expectedly, is none too happy about them, and has recently being [[CharacterShilling shilled to a ridiculous degree]] [[MostWritersAreHuman by Blizzard]]. The other is a racist warmonger of questionable leadership skills taking over from the level-headed, peace-seeking, Thrall who somehow was a EmoTeen beating himself up barely a few years ago. Each is appointed the leader of theirfactions factions[[note]]It doesn't help matters that in Varian's case, the Alliance hasn't had a formal leader in its "High King" in the same way that the Horde had a Warchief since the First War[[/note]] just so (as the developers have confessed) there would be a reason to justify an all-out war between the Horde and Alliance.
* Varian Wrynn and Garrosh Hellscream are the two most prominent cases, one for being an angry post-LiteralSplitPersonality with one half being a slave to Orcs for quite some time, had his home destroyed by the orcs and his father betrayed by one even earlier and rather expectedly, is none too happy about them, and has recently being [[CharacterShilling shilled to a ridiculous degree]] [[MostWritersAreHuman by Blizzard]]. The other is a racist warmonger of questionable leadership skills taking over from the level-headed, peace-seeking, Thrall who somehow was a EmoTeen beating himself up barely a few years ago. Each is appointed the leader of their
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* Xe'ra is either a [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter wasted potential]] well-intentioned extremist ally [[HeroOfAnotherStory with a deep past]] [[spoiler:who was killed]] by [[TheFarmerAndTheViper the selfish magic addict she was trying to save]] (some fans have compared Xe'ra forcefully infusing Illidan with the Light to remove his fel magic to intervention and rehabilitation for a drug addict) or a [[MetaphoricallyTrue manipulative]], controlling KnightTemplar who [[HoistByHisOwnPetard brought her fate on herself]]. In a case of WatsonianVsDoylist, some despise her for shilling and whitewashing Illidan, others blame Blizzard for poorly writing regarding her actions and Illidan's story [[note]] Evidence for poor writing includes the retcons and how she chastises player characters of races and classes who, lorewise, weren't around at the time and so couldn't have been involved in Illidan's death, such as Death Knights or Worgen. [[/note]], and some blame both.
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* Xe'ra is either a [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter wasted potential]] well-intentioned extremist ally [[HeroOfAnotherStory with a deep past]] [[spoiler:who was killed]] by [[TheFarmerAndTheViper the selfish magic addict she was trying to save]] (some fans have compared Xe'ra forcefully infusing Illidan with the Light to remove his fel magic to intervention and rehabilitation for a drug addict) or a [[MetaphoricallyTrue manipulative]], controlling KnightTemplar who [[HoistByHisOwnPetard brought her fate on herself]]. In a case of WatsonianVsDoylist, WatsonianVersusDoylist, some despise her for shilling and whitewashing Illidan, others blame Blizzard for poorly writing regarding her actions and Illidan's story [[note]] Evidence for poor writing includes the retcons and how she chastises player characters of races and classes who, lorewise, weren't around at the time and so couldn't have been involved in Illidan's death, such as Death Knights or Worgen. [[/note]], and some blame both.
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* Priscilla Ashvane. While some think it's nice to ''finally'' see another human villain who wasn't corrupted by someone else (the first since Van Cleef) in comparison to the other evil heads of house. Others, however, think she's too ObviouslyEvil with her {{Gonk}}ish design and she [[AntiClimax was defeated too easily]]. However, [[AuthorsSavingThrow Tides of Vengenace reveals that she's not quite done]]...
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* Priscilla Ashvane. While some think it's nice to ''finally'' see another human villain who wasn't corrupted by someone else (the first since Van Cleef) [=VanCleef=]) in comparison to the other evil heads of house. Others, house, others, however, think she's too ObviouslyEvil with her {{Gonk}}ish design and she [[AntiClimax was defeated too easily]]. However, [[AuthorsSavingThrow Tides of Vengenace Vengeance reveals that she's not quite done]]...
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* Arthas (as a Paladin), Varian, Garrosh, Sylvanas, and Gallywix.
* Thrall as of ''Cataclysm''. A common fan sentiment is that they "like Thrall, but ''hate'' "Go'el"".
* Lesser example but flying mounts, not being allowed to use them in Pandaria until level 90 or even whether or not they should even exist.
** Worse in Draenor, as the developers had tentative plans to allow their use ''at all'' (in spite of still offering new flying mounts as rewards), and only made it unlockable three raid tiers in after a significant grind post-level cap - the latter of which is a model that they announced plans to recycle in future expansions.
** The model was far better accepted in ''Legion'', due partly to the fact that Blizzard didn't go back and forth on whether there would even ''be'' flying, and partly because the unlock process was spelled out in advance, so players knew what they had to get done in advance to be ready for flying. It also allows the playerbase to get a really good, appreciative look at the new areas, and flight comes along just as they are done paying attention and just want to accomplish whatever it is they're there for.
* Sky Admiral Rogers is becoming one. Either she's a [[FrontlineGeneral badass Alliance leader]] who actually values the safety of her own soldiers over the enemy's, while to others, she comes off as a war criminal for killing (apparently) surrendering Horde soldiers (who may very well have been [[PunchClockVillain drafted by Garrosh]]).
* Sunwalker Dezco: a cool tragic character, or a poorly written character that ruined the dynamic of Sunwalkers, and acts exactly like a human paladin?
* Rhonin is either a [[TheScrappy Scrappy]] or he's awesome.
* Varian Wrynn and Garrosh Hellscream are the two most prominent cases, one for being an angry post-LiteralSplitPersonality with one half being a slave to Orcs for quite some time, had his home destroyed by the orcs and his father betrayed by one even earlier and rather expectedly, is none too happy about them, and has recently being [[CharacterShilling shilled to a ridiculous degree]] [[MostWritersAreHuman by Blizzard]]. The other is a racist warmonger of questionable leadership skills taking over from the level-headed, peace-seeking, Thrall who somehow was a EmoTeen beating himself up barely a few years ago. Each is appointed the leader of their factions just so (as the developers have confessed) there would be a reason to justify an all-out war between the Horde and Alliance.
* Jaina Proudmoore after ''Mists of Pandaria''. Some thinks that her CharacterDevelopment made sense as she saw everything she worked for peace destroyed in moments, because of the side she trusted as well. Others believe that it's a CharacterDevelopment gone wrong that it was delivered in breakneck speed and is always shoved to the players' throats, in addition of really going against her characterization in [=WC3=], being the woman who would be okay with her father being dead in order to ensure peace, now she's considered [[BecameTheirOwnAntithesis to be an insult to that]]. The anti-camp is more likely to be glad with the presence of ''VideoGame/HeroesOfTheStorm'' whereas Jaina there hasn't progressed to this base-breaking Jaina.
* Sylvanas being made Warchief. Some feel that she was the next best candidate, while others think it should have been Saurfang or even Lor'themar, and others are mad that since as Warchief, Vol'jin just warmed the chair Sylvanas would sit on due to being OutOfFocus in ''Warlords''. As of ''Battle for Azeroth'', the base is broken between those who think Sylvanas is doing what is necessary and those who think she is becoming Garrosh 2.0.
* Xe'ra is either a [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter wasted potential]] well-intentioned extremist ally [[HeroOfAnotherStory with a deep past]] [[spoiler:who was killed]] by [[TheFarmerAndTheViper the selfish magic addict she was trying to save]] (some fans have compared Xe'ra forcefully infusing Illidan with the Light to remove his fel magic to intervention and rehabilitation for a drug addict) or a [[MetaphoricallyTrue manipulative]], controlling KnightTemplar who [[HoistByHisOwnPetard brought her fate on herself]]. In a case of WatsonianVsDoylist, some despise her for shilling and whitewashing Illidan, others blame Blizzard for poorly writing regarding her actions and Illidan's story [[note]] Evidence for poor writing includes the retcons and how she chastises player characters of races and classes who, lorewise, weren't around at the time and so couldn't have been involved in Illidan's death, such as Death Knights or Worgen. [[/note]], and some blame both.
* Taran Zhu was by far the most controversial and divisive of the new characters added in ''Mists of Pandaria''. While his grievances against the Alliance and the Horde bringing their war to Pandaria are completely valid (especially in regards to the Sha), many players took umbrage with how caustic, condescending and stubborn he was shown to be. Many Alliance players and fans also took issue with his repeated claims that the Alliance was just as responsible as the Horde for Pandaria's current crisis despite the Horde appearing to act ''far'' more aggressive and destructive throughout the expansion.
* Priscilla Ashvane. While some think it's nice to ''finally'' see another human villain who wasn't corrupted by someone else (the first since Van Cleef) in comparison to the other evil heads of house. Others, however, think she's too ObviouslyEvil with her {{Gonk}}ish design and she [[AntiClimax was defeated too easily]]. However, [[AuthorsSavingThrow Tides of Vengenace reveals that she's not quite done]]...
* Thrall as of ''Cataclysm''. A common fan sentiment is that they "like Thrall, but ''hate'' "Go'el"".
* Lesser example but flying mounts, not being allowed to use them in Pandaria until level 90 or even whether or not they should even exist.
** Worse in Draenor, as the developers had tentative plans to allow their use ''at all'' (in spite of still offering new flying mounts as rewards), and only made it unlockable three raid tiers in after a significant grind post-level cap - the latter of which is a model that they announced plans to recycle in future expansions.
** The model was far better accepted in ''Legion'', due partly to the fact that Blizzard didn't go back and forth on whether there would even ''be'' flying, and partly because the unlock process was spelled out in advance, so players knew what they had to get done in advance to be ready for flying. It also allows the playerbase to get a really good, appreciative look at the new areas, and flight comes along just as they are done paying attention and just want to accomplish whatever it is they're there for.
* Sky Admiral Rogers is becoming one. Either she's a [[FrontlineGeneral badass Alliance leader]] who actually values the safety of her own soldiers over the enemy's, while to others, she comes off as a war criminal for killing (apparently) surrendering Horde soldiers (who may very well have been [[PunchClockVillain drafted by Garrosh]]).
* Sunwalker Dezco: a cool tragic character, or a poorly written character that ruined the dynamic of Sunwalkers, and acts exactly like a human paladin?
* Rhonin is either a [[TheScrappy Scrappy]] or he's awesome.
* Varian Wrynn and Garrosh Hellscream are the two most prominent cases, one for being an angry post-LiteralSplitPersonality with one half being a slave to Orcs for quite some time, had his home destroyed by the orcs and his father betrayed by one even earlier and rather expectedly, is none too happy about them, and has recently being [[CharacterShilling shilled to a ridiculous degree]] [[MostWritersAreHuman by Blizzard]]. The other is a racist warmonger of questionable leadership skills taking over from the level-headed, peace-seeking, Thrall who somehow was a EmoTeen beating himself up barely a few years ago. Each is appointed the leader of their factions just so (as the developers have confessed) there would be a reason to justify an all-out war between the Horde and Alliance.
* Jaina Proudmoore after ''Mists of Pandaria''. Some thinks that her CharacterDevelopment made sense as she saw everything she worked for peace destroyed in moments, because of the side she trusted as well. Others believe that it's a CharacterDevelopment gone wrong that it was delivered in breakneck speed and is always shoved to the players' throats, in addition of really going against her characterization in [=WC3=], being the woman who would be okay with her father being dead in order to ensure peace, now she's considered [[BecameTheirOwnAntithesis to be an insult to that]]. The anti-camp is more likely to be glad with the presence of ''VideoGame/HeroesOfTheStorm'' whereas Jaina there hasn't progressed to this base-breaking Jaina.
* Sylvanas being made Warchief. Some feel that she was the next best candidate, while others think it should have been Saurfang or even Lor'themar, and others are mad that since as Warchief, Vol'jin just warmed the chair Sylvanas would sit on due to being OutOfFocus in ''Warlords''. As of ''Battle for Azeroth'', the base is broken between those who think Sylvanas is doing what is necessary and those who think she is becoming Garrosh 2.0.
* Xe'ra is either a [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter wasted potential]] well-intentioned extremist ally [[HeroOfAnotherStory with a deep past]] [[spoiler:who was killed]] by [[TheFarmerAndTheViper the selfish magic addict she was trying to save]] (some fans have compared Xe'ra forcefully infusing Illidan with the Light to remove his fel magic to intervention and rehabilitation for a drug addict) or a [[MetaphoricallyTrue manipulative]], controlling KnightTemplar who [[HoistByHisOwnPetard brought her fate on herself]]. In a case of WatsonianVsDoylist, some despise her for shilling and whitewashing Illidan, others blame Blizzard for poorly writing regarding her actions and Illidan's story [[note]] Evidence for poor writing includes the retcons and how she chastises player characters of races and classes who, lorewise, weren't around at the time and so couldn't have been involved in Illidan's death, such as Death Knights or Worgen. [[/note]], and some blame both.
* Taran Zhu was by far the most controversial and divisive of the new characters added in ''Mists of Pandaria''. While his grievances against the Alliance and the Horde bringing their war to Pandaria are completely valid (especially in regards to the Sha), many players took umbrage with how caustic, condescending and stubborn he was shown to be. Many Alliance players and fans also took issue with his repeated claims that the Alliance was just as responsible as the Horde for Pandaria's current crisis despite the Horde appearing to act ''far'' more aggressive and destructive throughout the expansion.
* Priscilla Ashvane. While some think it's nice to ''finally'' see another human villain who wasn't corrupted by someone else (the first since Van Cleef) in comparison to the other evil heads of house. Others, however, think she's too ObviouslyEvil with her {{Gonk}}ish design and she [[AntiClimax was defeated too easily]]. However, [[AuthorsSavingThrow Tides of Vengenace reveals that she's not quite done]]...
