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3rd May '17 4:01:21 PM ErikModi
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* ClashOfEvolutionaryLevels: For humans, telepaths versus "Mundanes" is this. While human prejudice against their telepaths is mostly due to the [[JerkAssHasAPoint not-unjustified]] fear of telepathic invasion of privacy, some of it is due to the fear that telepaths are "homo superior," and will eventually supplant and replace "mundanes." Then there are some telepaths who believe ''themselves'' to be "homo superior," and will gladly inherit the Earth Alliance once they've rid it of those pesky mundanes. For what it's worth, the series itself implies telepathy is the next major step in evolution, and [[spoiler: will eventually result in humans evolving into EnergyBeings.]]
** {{Subverted}} with [[spoiler: the Hyach and the Hyach-do]]. When the [[spoiler: Hyach]] eliminated the [[spoiler: Hyach-do]], they inadvertently deprived their species of necessary genetic diversity, causing them to begin a very slow die-off.
16th Apr '17 9:33:26 AM Imaginos1892
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---> '''Vir:''' "It tastes so good going down. Coming back up, not so good..."
16th Apr '17 9:21:50 AM Imaginos1892
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---> '''Vir:''' "I'd like to live just long enough to be there when they cut off your head and stick it on a pike as a warning to the next ten generations that some favors come with too high a price. I want to look up into your ''lifeless'' eyes and wave like this." (mocking cutesy wave) "Can you and your associates arrange that for me, Mr. Morden?"
*** Morden can't, [[BrickJoke but Londo can]]. This is a bit of FridgeBrilliance, because Londo ''is'' technically one of Mr. Morden's associates!

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---> '''Vir:''' "I'd like to live just long enough to be there when they cut off your head and stick it on a pike as a warning to the next ten generations that some favors come with too high a price. I want to look would gaze up into your ''lifeless'' eyes and wave like this." (mocking cutesy wave) "Can you and your associates arrange that for me, Mr. Morden?"
*** Morden can't, [[BrickJoke but Londo can]]. This is a bit of FridgeBrilliance, because Londo ''is'' technically one of Mr. Morden's associates!associates! And Vir did wave, 'like this'.
4th Mar '17 12:05:56 PM Fireblood
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* DevilButNoGod: There is cosmic evil but no cosmic good unless you count Lorien. The Vorlons, at first ''seem'' to be cosmic good but reveal that they are almost as bad as the Shadows and arguably more distasteful for pretending to be good. By contrast Creator/JRRTolkien has cosmic good that is prevented from interfering directly by the nature of the setting.

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* DevilButNoGod: There is cosmic evil but no cosmic good unless you count Lorien. The Vorlons, Vorlons at first ''seem'' to be cosmic good but reveal that they are almost as bad as the Shadows and arguably more distasteful for pretending to be good. By contrast Creator/JRRTolkien has cosmic good that is prevented from interfering directly by the nature of the setting.



* ElectiveMonarchy: The Centauri Republic (which [[NonIndicativeName despite its title]] is really a constitutional monarchy) allows the Centauruum (the Republic's parliament) to elect an Emperor when the line of succession has become unclear.

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* ElectiveMonarchy: The Centauri Republic (which [[NonIndicativeName despite its title]] is really a constitutional monarchy) allows the Centauruum (the Republic's parliament) to elect an Emperor when the line of succession has become unclear. Though when Cartagia (inherited) is found to have had a son the kid ends up behind Londo's (elected) chosen successor Vir in the line of succession.
3rd Mar '17 11:54:03 AM AFP
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** The humans on Earth are threatened with Planetary Society Disruption due to [[ThePlague an alien bioweapon]] in ''A Call To Arms'' and ''Crusade'', but survive more-or-less intact. Given ''Crusade's'' cancellation, we never get to see the details of how the plague is dealt with, but WordOfGod is that it was resolved within a couple of years.


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** Galactic Species Extinction was also the fate of the Dilgar in the show's backstory. The Earth Alliance intervened in a very nasty war started by the Dilgar, and after the Dilgar were forced to retreat back to their home star system, their sun unexpectedly went nova. WordOfGod is that this didn't occur naturally, but that none of the younger races (humanity included) were responsible for it. The show itself never goes into the details. There are a handful of survivors, including [[TheButcher Deathwalker]], but most of those are laying low in quiet corners of the galaxy and hoping to avoid the fate of the rest of their race.
3rd Mar '17 8:26:34 AM AFP
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** Several of the aborted arcs set up in ''Babylon 5'' and ''Crusade'' get picked up in the ExpandedUniverse books.
18th Feb '17 1:36:56 PM Michael
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** Marcus has to tell minbari under the command of Susan that if they laugh, they deal with him... when Susan cannot speak Minbari properly. "Hatrack Ratcatcher," anyone?

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** Marcus Delenn has to tell minbari under the command of Susan that if they laugh, they deal with him...her... when Susan cannot speak Minbari properly. "Hatrack Ratcatcher," anyone?
18th Feb '17 1:35:36 PM Michael
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* HiddenDepths: A minor {{Mook}} working for Bill Edgars persuades Garibaldi to go along with a plan by invoking this.
-->'''Garibaldi:''' I'm going to look silly.
-->'''Mook:''' None of us are what we appear. Have I ever told you I have a degree in literature?
-->'''Garibaldi:''' Well don't take this the wrong way, but [[DumbMuscle you don't seem the type.]]
15th Feb '17 9:10:45 PM Fireblood
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** Lennier starts as a lowly monk and ammanuensis to Delenn, then [[spoiler: [[TookALevelInBadass takes a level or two]] when he joins the Rangers in Season 5]]. His martial arts prowess, however, is shown in several earlier episodes (including rescuing Londo from a bar brawl that the Centauri had instigated).
** G'Kar counts as well, being the senior representative of his religion on the station (whether this is due to age, social status, or an actual religious title is never explored although the Narns do have an elaborate social caste system). He is responsible for leading his fellow Narns on the station in worship. [[spoiler: Later on he becomes one of his religion's most revered prophets]]. G'Kar is also quite capable of handling himself in a fight with anything from words to [[AcePilot space fighters]]. On [[BigDamnHeroes one occassion]], he manages to bring ''[[TheCavalry an entire fleet]]'' of warships from mutually hostile alien races to help the heroes.
** If G'Kar counts, then Delenn, the ''de facto'' leader of the Religious Caste of the Minbari Federation certainly does. She's already [[KingIncognito far more powerful]] than she lets on in the first season, but by the beginning of the fourth season, it's safe to say she is probably one of the single most powerful figures amongst the younger races, able to command large portions of Minbar's surprisingly fractious society through sheer unadulterated force of will, despite spending the second season as a pariah due to her decision to become a HalfHumanHybrid.

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** Lennier starts as a lowly monk and ammanuensis amanuensis to Delenn, then [[spoiler: [[TookALevelInBadass takes a level or two]] when he joins the Rangers in Season 5]]. His martial arts prowess, however, is shown in several earlier episodes (including rescuing Londo from a bar brawl that the Centauri had instigated).
** G'Kar counts as well, being the senior representative of his religion on the station (whether this is due to age, social status, or an actual religious title is never explored although the Narns do have an elaborate social caste system). He is responsible for leading his fellow Narns on the station in worship. [[spoiler: Later on he becomes one of his religion's most revered prophets]]. G'Kar is also quite capable of handling himself in a fight with anything from words to [[AcePilot space fighters]]. On [[BigDamnHeroes one occassion]], occasion]], he manages to bring ''[[TheCavalry an entire fleet]]'' of warships from mutually hostile alien races to help the heroes.
** If G'Kar counts, then Delenn, the ''de facto'' leader of the Religious Caste of the Minbari Federation Federation, certainly does. She's already [[KingIncognito far more powerful]] than she lets on in the first season, but by the beginning of the fourth season, it's safe to say she is probably one of the single most powerful figures amongst among the younger races, able to command large portions of Minbar's surprisingly fractious society through sheer unadulterated force of will, despite spending the second season as a pariah due to her decision to become a HalfHumanHybrid.


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* ElectiveMonarchy: The Centauri Republic (which [[NonIndicativeName despite its title]] is really a constitutional monarchy) allows the Centauruum (the Republic's parliament) to elect an Emperor when the line of succession has become unclear.
30th Jan '17 8:30:14 PM Galadriel
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*** This is a Ranger paraphrasing Gandolf, which Trope it belongs to depends on one's generosity.

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*** This is a Ranger paraphrasing Gandolf, Gandalf, which Trope it belongs to depends on one's generosity.
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