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31st Jul '17 10:19:13 AM Divra
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** The Centauri. Dear ''God'', the Centauri.

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** The Centauri. Dear ''God'', the Centauri. Centauri combat uniforms are essentially Napoleonic Era uniforms. One episode sees a Centauri military ops unit caught on ''Babylon 5'' because they were wearing reasonably sneaky cloaks, but ''were wearing their gold-trimmed purple uniforms underneath.''


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** The later, Minbari-made uniforms are a double-subversion. While they look like pretty nice and dressy daily wear uniforms to human eyes, they are constructed from materials normally only worn by religious leaders, revered military commanders and the like among the Minbari. They are definitely Bling Of War by minbari standards, but Minbari standards on the topic are quite subdued.
26th Jul '17 11:25:18 PM YuriFan17
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* BellyDancer: Shown generously throughout the Dark Star club in "The Quality of Mercy".
11th Jun '17 9:49:22 PM Fireblood
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** '''3.10 "Severed Dreams"''': At ISN headquarters, [[spoiler: news director Rick openly stated that Proxima 3 and Orion 7 had broken away from the Earth Alliance in protest of President Clark's bombing of civilian targets on Mars.]] He did this as a last-ditch effort since Clark was also sending military forces in a move to put the network fully under its control and turn it into a propaganda machine. Though it's not stated, he probably didn't survive prison.

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*** During the Battle of the Line, Jeffrey Sinclair attempted a kamikaze run on a Minbari ship after his Starfury was damaged. Obviously, it ended differently than he expected it to.
** '''3.10 "Severed Dreams"''': At ISN headquarters, [[spoiler: news director Rick openly stated that Proxima 3 and Orion 7 had broken away from the Earth Alliance in protest of President Clark's bombing of civilian targets on Mars.]] He did this as a last-ditch effort since Clark was also sending military forces in a move to put the network fully under its control and turn it into a propaganda machine. Though it's not stated, he probably didn't survive prison. In the same episode, the EAS ''Churchill'' was already critically disabled up from damage taken, so it rammed a hostile Earth Alliance Ship to take it out as well.



** '''3.22 "Z'ha'dum"''': Sheridan took a one-way trip to Z'ha'dum, home of the Shadows, hoping that it will end the war sooner and prevent the destruction of Centauri Prime. Since he figured it was a trap, he took along some bombs as well, enabling him to destroy their capital city. This one is seemingly subverted in the following episode, but then turned back around with the reveal that when he came back to life, he could only be given twenty more years. He accepted this, but some of his loved ones weren't happy about it.
** '''4.05 "The Long Night"''': A Ranger ship went on a suicide mission solely to give the Shadows information that would get them where the good guys wanted them, without their becoming suspicious.
** '''4.06 "Into the Fire"''': The one on Centauri Prime. A few Centauri remained on the island the Shadows were using as a base to keep up appearances when Londo set up his gambit to get rid of Shadow influence before the Vorlons came to destroy them. He wasn't able to convince the Shadows to leave, so instead he put nukes in place without them noticing, and those citizens were killed in the process.
*** Also from "Into the Fire"''': The one by Coriana VI. A number of ships take one for the team as part of their collective "screw you" to the Vorlons and Shadows at the final battle, when they are trying to destroy Sheridan's ship but the others fly in front of the missiles.
** '''4.14 "Moments of Transition"''': Delenn was willing to do this as part of an ancient ritual, with the hope that it would mend the rift between the Minbari castes and end their civil war. In the end, Neroon pulls her out of the circle before it activates, and dies in her place, so there is still a sacrifice, just not the one initially expected. It helps that, in his final moments, he converts to the Religious caste, thus signifying their moral victory.



** '''3.10 "Severed Dreams"''': [[spoiler:The EAS ''Churchill'' was already critically disabled up from damage taken]], so it rammed a hostile Earth Alliance Ship to take it out as well.
** '''3.22 "Z'ha'dum"''': [[spoiler:Sheridan took a one-way trip to Z'ha'dum, home of the Shadows, hoping that it will end the war sooner and prevent the destruction of Centauri Prime. Since he figured it was a trap, he took along some bombs as well, enabling him to destroy their capital city.]] This one is seemingly subverted in the following episode, but then turned back around with the reveal that [[spoiler:when he came back to life, he could only be given twenty more years. He accepted this, but some of his loved ones weren't happy about it.]]
** '''4.05 "The Long Night"''': A Ranger ship went on a suicide mission solely to give the Shadows information that would get them where the good guys wanted them, without their becoming suspicious.
** '''4.06 "Into the Fire"''': The one on Centauri Prime; [[spoiler:A few Centauri remained on the island the Shadows were using as a base to keep up appearances when Londo set up his gambit to get rid of Shadow influence before the Vorlons came to destroy them. He wasn't able to convince the Shadows to leave, so instead he put nukes in place without them noticing, and those citizens were killed in the process.'']]
*** Also from "Into the Fire"''': The one by Coriana VI; [[spoiler:A number of ships take one for the team as part of their collective "screw you" to the Vorlons and Shadows at the final battle, when they are trying to destroy Sheridan's ship but the others fly in front of the missiles.]]
** '''4.14 "Moments of Transition"''': [[spoiler:Delenn]] was willing to do this as part of an ancient ritual, with the hope that it would mend the rift between the Minbari castes and end their civil war. In the end, [[spoiler:Neroon pulls her out of the circle before it activates, and dies in her place]], so there is still a sacrifice, just not the one initially expected.
25th May '17 12:00:21 PM HiddenWindshield
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* BaldWomen: Unlike Centauri males, whose hair fans are indicative of their social standing, women in their culture typically hold no status and symbolically shave their heads (save for the occasional ponytail).

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* BaldWomen: Unlike In Centauri males, whose society, the height of one's hair fans are indicative of their fan indicates the individual's social standing, women status. Women in their culture typically hold no status and symbolically shave their heads (save for the occasional ponytail).ponytail), which should tell you all you need to know about their standing.
25th May '17 11:52:19 AM HiddenWindshield
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*** This is a Ranger paraphrasing Gandalf, which Trope it belongs to depends on one's generosity.
3rd May '17 4:01:21 PM ErikModi
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* ClashOfEvolutionaryLevels: For humans, telepaths versus "Mundanes" is this. While human prejudice against their telepaths is mostly due to the [[JerkAssHasAPoint not-unjustified]] fear of telepathic invasion of privacy, some of it is due to the fear that telepaths are "homo superior," and will eventually supplant and replace "mundanes." Then there are some telepaths who believe ''themselves'' to be "homo superior," and will gladly inherit the Earth Alliance once they've rid it of those pesky mundanes. For what it's worth, the series itself implies telepathy is the next major step in evolution, and [[spoiler: will eventually result in humans evolving into EnergyBeings.]]
** {{Subverted}} with [[spoiler: the Hyach and the Hyach-do]]. When the [[spoiler: Hyach]] eliminated the [[spoiler: Hyach-do]], they inadvertently deprived their species of necessary genetic diversity, causing them to begin a very slow die-off.
16th Apr '17 9:33:26 AM Imaginos1892
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---> '''Vir:''' "It tastes so good going down. Coming back up, not so good..."
16th Apr '17 9:21:50 AM Imaginos1892
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---> '''Vir:''' "I'd like to live just long enough to be there when they cut off your head and stick it on a pike as a warning to the next ten generations that some favors come with too high a price. I want to look up into your ''lifeless'' eyes and wave like this." (mocking cutesy wave) "Can you and your associates arrange that for me, Mr. Morden?"
*** Morden can't, [[BrickJoke but Londo can]]. This is a bit of FridgeBrilliance, because Londo ''is'' technically one of Mr. Morden's associates!

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---> '''Vir:''' "I'd like to live just long enough to be there when they cut off your head and stick it on a pike as a warning to the next ten generations that some favors come with too high a price. I want to look would gaze up into your ''lifeless'' eyes and wave like this." (mocking cutesy wave) "Can you and your associates arrange that for me, Mr. Morden?"
*** Morden can't, [[BrickJoke but Londo can]]. This is a bit of FridgeBrilliance, because Londo ''is'' technically one of Mr. Morden's associates!associates! And Vir did wave, 'like this'.
4th Mar '17 12:05:56 PM Fireblood
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* DevilButNoGod: There is cosmic evil but no cosmic good unless you count Lorien. The Vorlons, at first ''seem'' to be cosmic good but reveal that they are almost as bad as the Shadows and arguably more distasteful for pretending to be good. By contrast Creator/JRRTolkien has cosmic good that is prevented from interfering directly by the nature of the setting.

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* DevilButNoGod: There is cosmic evil but no cosmic good unless you count Lorien. The Vorlons, Vorlons at first ''seem'' to be cosmic good but reveal that they are almost as bad as the Shadows and arguably more distasteful for pretending to be good. By contrast Creator/JRRTolkien has cosmic good that is prevented from interfering directly by the nature of the setting.



* ElectiveMonarchy: The Centauri Republic (which [[NonIndicativeName despite its title]] is really a constitutional monarchy) allows the Centauruum (the Republic's parliament) to elect an Emperor when the line of succession has become unclear.

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* ElectiveMonarchy: The Centauri Republic (which [[NonIndicativeName despite its title]] is really a constitutional monarchy) allows the Centauruum (the Republic's parliament) to elect an Emperor when the line of succession has become unclear. Though when Cartagia (inherited) is found to have had a son the kid ends up behind Londo's (elected) chosen successor Vir in the line of succession.
3rd Mar '17 11:54:03 AM AFP
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** The humans on Earth are threatened with Planetary Society Disruption due to [[ThePlague an alien bioweapon]] in ''A Call To Arms'' and ''Crusade'', but survive more-or-less intact. Given ''Crusade's'' cancellation, we never get to see the details of how the plague is dealt with, but WordOfGod is that it was resolved within a couple of years.


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** Galactic Species Extinction was also the fate of the Dilgar in the show's backstory. The Earth Alliance intervened in a very nasty war started by the Dilgar, and after the Dilgar were forced to retreat back to their home star system, their sun unexpectedly went nova. WordOfGod is that this didn't occur naturally, but that none of the younger races (humanity included) were responsible for it. The show itself never goes into the details. There are a handful of survivors, including [[TheButcher Deathwalker]], but most of those are laying low in quiet corners of the galaxy and hoping to avoid the fate of the rest of their race.
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