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4th Mar '17 12:05:56 PM Fireblood
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* DevilButNoGod: There is cosmic evil but no cosmic good unless you count Lorien. The Vorlons, at first ''seem'' to be cosmic good but reveal that they are almost as bad as the Shadows and arguably more distasteful for pretending to be good. By contrast Creator/JRRTolkien has cosmic good that is prevented from interfering directly by the nature of the setting.

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* DevilButNoGod: There is cosmic evil but no cosmic good unless you count Lorien. The Vorlons, Vorlons at first ''seem'' to be cosmic good but reveal that they are almost as bad as the Shadows and arguably more distasteful for pretending to be good. By contrast Creator/JRRTolkien has cosmic good that is prevented from interfering directly by the nature of the setting.



* ElectiveMonarchy: The Centauri Republic (which [[NonIndicativeName despite its title]] is really a constitutional monarchy) allows the Centauruum (the Republic's parliament) to elect an Emperor when the line of succession has become unclear.

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* ElectiveMonarchy: The Centauri Republic (which [[NonIndicativeName despite its title]] is really a constitutional monarchy) allows the Centauruum (the Republic's parliament) to elect an Emperor when the line of succession has become unclear. Though when Cartagia (inherited) is found to have had a son the kid ends up behind Londo's (elected) chosen successor Vir in the line of succession.
3rd Mar '17 11:54:03 AM AFP
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** The humans on Earth are threatened with Planetary Society Disruption due to [[ThePlague an alien bioweapon]] in ''A Call To Arms'' and ''Crusade'', but survive more-or-less intact. Given ''Crusade's'' cancellation, we never get to see the details of how the plague is dealt with, but WordOfGod is that it was resolved within a couple of years.


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** Galactic Species Extinction was also the fate of the Dilgar in the show's backstory. The Earth Alliance intervened in a very nasty war started by the Dilgar, and after the Dilgar were forced to retreat back to their home star system, their sun unexpectedly went nova. WordOfGod is that this didn't occur naturally, but that none of the younger races (humanity included) were responsible for it. The show itself never goes into the details. There are a handful of survivors, including [[TheButcher Deathwalker]], but most of those are laying low in quiet corners of the galaxy and hoping to avoid the fate of the rest of their race.
3rd Mar '17 8:26:34 AM AFP
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** Several of the aborted arcs set up in ''Babylon 5'' and ''Crusade'' get picked up in the ExpandedUniverse books.
18th Feb '17 1:36:56 PM Michael
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** Marcus has to tell minbari under the command of Susan that if they laugh, they deal with him... when Susan cannot speak Minbari properly. "Hatrack Ratcatcher," anyone?

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** Marcus Delenn has to tell minbari under the command of Susan that if they laugh, they deal with him...her... when Susan cannot speak Minbari properly. "Hatrack Ratcatcher," anyone?
18th Feb '17 1:35:36 PM Michael
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* HiddenDepths: A minor {{Mook}} working for Bill Edgars persuades Garibaldi to go along with a plan by invoking this.
-->'''Garibaldi:''' I'm going to look silly.
-->'''Mook:''' None of us are what we appear. Have I ever told you I have a degree in literature?
-->'''Garibaldi:''' Well don't take this the wrong way, but [[DumbMuscle you don't seem the type.]]
15th Feb '17 9:10:45 PM Fireblood
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** Lennier starts as a lowly monk and ammanuensis to Delenn, then [[spoiler: [[TookALevelInBadass takes a level or two]] when he joins the Rangers in Season 5]]. His martial arts prowess, however, is shown in several earlier episodes (including rescuing Londo from a bar brawl that the Centauri had instigated).
** G'Kar counts as well, being the senior representative of his religion on the station (whether this is due to age, social status, or an actual religious title is never explored although the Narns do have an elaborate social caste system). He is responsible for leading his fellow Narns on the station in worship. [[spoiler: Later on he becomes one of his religion's most revered prophets]]. G'Kar is also quite capable of handling himself in a fight with anything from words to [[AcePilot space fighters]]. On [[BigDamnHeroes one occassion]], he manages to bring ''[[TheCavalry an entire fleet]]'' of warships from mutually hostile alien races to help the heroes.
** If G'Kar counts, then Delenn, the ''de facto'' leader of the Religious Caste of the Minbari Federation certainly does. She's already [[KingIncognito far more powerful]] than she lets on in the first season, but by the beginning of the fourth season, it's safe to say she is probably one of the single most powerful figures amongst the younger races, able to command large portions of Minbar's surprisingly fractious society through sheer unadulterated force of will, despite spending the second season as a pariah due to her decision to become a HalfHumanHybrid.

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** Lennier starts as a lowly monk and ammanuensis amanuensis to Delenn, then [[spoiler: [[TookALevelInBadass takes a level or two]] when he joins the Rangers in Season 5]]. His martial arts prowess, however, is shown in several earlier episodes (including rescuing Londo from a bar brawl that the Centauri had instigated).
** G'Kar counts as well, being the senior representative of his religion on the station (whether this is due to age, social status, or an actual religious title is never explored although the Narns do have an elaborate social caste system). He is responsible for leading his fellow Narns on the station in worship. [[spoiler: Later on he becomes one of his religion's most revered prophets]]. G'Kar is also quite capable of handling himself in a fight with anything from words to [[AcePilot space fighters]]. On [[BigDamnHeroes one occassion]], occasion]], he manages to bring ''[[TheCavalry an entire fleet]]'' of warships from mutually hostile alien races to help the heroes.
** If G'Kar counts, then Delenn, the ''de facto'' leader of the Religious Caste of the Minbari Federation Federation, certainly does. She's already [[KingIncognito far more powerful]] than she lets on in the first season, but by the beginning of the fourth season, it's safe to say she is probably one of the single most powerful figures amongst among the younger races, able to command large portions of Minbar's surprisingly fractious society through sheer unadulterated force of will, despite spending the second season as a pariah due to her decision to become a HalfHumanHybrid.


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* ElectiveMonarchy: The Centauri Republic (which [[NonIndicativeName despite its title]] is really a constitutional monarchy) allows the Centauruum (the Republic's parliament) to elect an Emperor when the line of succession has become unclear.
30th Jan '17 8:30:14 PM Galadriel
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*** This is a Ranger paraphrasing Gandolf, which Trope it belongs to depends on one's generosity.

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*** This is a Ranger paraphrasing Gandolf, Gandalf, which Trope it belongs to depends on one's generosity.
30th Jan '17 8:14:17 PM Galadriel
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* AbortedArc: There are a few, but Geribaldi's vengeance against Psi-corp is never fully fleshed out. The closest he comes to it is trying to make the SmugSnake who used MindRape on him confess at gunpoint, which is ''very'' out of character for our loveable ManipulativeBastard, especially when Sheridan promised that Geribaldi would be "creative, colorful, and highly unpleasant" in settling the score.

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* AbortedArc: There are a few, but Geribaldi's Garibaldi's vengeance against Psi-corp Psi Corps is never fully fleshed out. The closest he comes to it is trying to make the SmugSnake who used MindRape on him confess at gunpoint, which is ''very'' out of character for our loveable ManipulativeBastard, especially when Sheridan promised that Geribaldi Garibaldi would be "creative, colorful, and highly unpleasant" in settling the score.
15th Jan '17 12:31:46 PM DustSnitch
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* BadassPreacher: Aldous Gajic from the episode "Grail". The dude not only takes on a bunch of guys, wielding guns, by kicking the crap out of them with a [[SimpleStaff giant stick]], but also talks down a [[MindRape mind-raping]] alien monster right before he [[TakingTheBullet takes a bullet]] ''for a guy he only just met''. The guy is BadAss, to say the least. And he's played by David Warner.

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* BadassPreacher: Aldous Gajic from the episode "Grail". The dude not only takes on a bunch of guys, wielding guns, by kicking the crap out of them with a [[SimpleStaff giant stick]], but also talks down a [[MindRape mind-raping]] alien monster right before he [[TakingTheBullet takes a bullet]] ''for a guy he only just met''. The guy is BadAss, badass, to say the least. And he's played by David Warner.



* BaldOfAwesome: Michael Gari[[PunnyName bald]]i. Also every BadAss of every species that doesn't have hair.

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* BaldOfAwesome: Michael Gari[[PunnyName bald]]i. Also every BadAss badass of every species that doesn't have hair.
8th Jan '17 7:11:45 AM SeptimusHeap
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** The Minbari Fighting Pike, a SimpleStaff that collapses into a small cylinder about the size of your hand and [[FreudWasRight grows rapidly when firmly shaken]]. Most prominently used by a virgin who says that playing with it helps him relax. Lampshaded by Marcus when he's describing it to G'kar after [[BigDamnHeroes saving G'kar]] from a BadGuyBar full of people ready to turn him over to the Centauri:

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** The Minbari Fighting Pike, a SimpleStaff that collapses into a small cylinder about the size of your hand and [[FreudWasRight grows rapidly when firmly shaken]].shaken. Most prominently used by a virgin who says that playing with it helps him relax. Lampshaded by Marcus when he's describing it to G'kar after [[BigDamnHeroes saving G'kar]] from a BadGuyBar full of people ready to turn him over to the Centauri:
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