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8th Mar '17 3:20:12 PM Discar
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* At the end of ''Literature/{{Edgedancer}}'', Lift uses her newfound ability to manifest an AbsurdlySharpBlade from thin air to create a fork. She soon realizes that there's a very good reason kitchen utensils don't strive for AbsurdCuttingPower.

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* ''Literature/{{Edgedancer}}'' (a novella of ''Literature/TheStormlightArchive''): At the end of ''Literature/{{Edgedancer}}'', end, Lift uses her newfound ability to manifest an AbsurdlySharpBlade from thin air to create a fork. She soon realizes that there's a very good reason kitchen utensils don't strive for AbsurdCuttingPower.
23rd Feb '17 4:50:51 AM WillBGood
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** [[BigFancyCastle Harrenhal]] is another example. On the face of it, it's an awesomely solid defensive construction, most of which has managed to stand the test of time -- if rather badly scorched, melted and battered. However, it's also a massive ode to [[TheTower hubris writ in stone]]. Even if it hadn't met [[NeverBringAKnifeToAGunFight ruin]]-[[KillItWithFire by]]-[[OutsideContextProblem unforeseen]]-[[WeaponOfMassDestruction dragons]] trimming its available living space a fair bit, it'd ''still'' have been an impossible castle to supply, maintain and run properly thanks to the sheer scale of the damned thing, and due to the army of servants and/or serfs needed to keep it going. Let alone anything else, like unsupportable supply lines in a notoriously politically unstable region given to being the standard battlefield of choice for the whole continent. The Riverlands and the Iron Isles would probably have been beggared and/or partiality depopulated and deforrested in just a couple of generations trying to make it work at its peak. As it is, even in its partially-used state, it's still TheMillstone around the neck of any poor, unsuspecting Family that gets given it as a "[[UnwantedGiftPlot reward]]" for services rendered. The Whents are only the latest Family to go under primarily due to its financial and logistical weight making them sitting ducks in the Game at the start of the series. The total list of [[HighTurnoverRate Houses to fall]] to the place: Qoherys -- totally extinct; Towers -- extinct; Harroway -- extinct; Strong -- extinct (although the name does resurface from time to time, probably stolen), Lothston -- extinct; Whent -- extinct in the main, male line, although a side-branch still struggles along; House Slynt -- new and still going, [[spoiler: although utterly stripped of the title, though Lord Slynt was sent to the Wall and executed; and, last but not least, Baelish -- gods alone know how that's going to play out, but he's so far studiously avoided going anywhere near the damn thing.]] Also, misfortune tends to find those who just hold it, entitled to or not: [[spoiler:Vargo Hoat, upon being captured by the Mountain, had pieces of him cut off each day and fed them to him; the Mountain himself suffered shortly after this upon getting wounded and began dying from an incredibly painful but slow poison,]] though [[spoiler:he may have survived via necromancy; Roose Bolton's plans haven't been going so well since he left the place... and his erstwhile patron, Tyson Lannister, has also succumbed to HoistByHisOwnPetard.]] All this, in combination with the burning backstory and other notable historical disasters unrelated to actually running it, is why the common folk (and a few not-so-common) [[HauntedCastle consider the thing]] under an unspecified, if potent, {{Curse}}.

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** [[BigFancyCastle Harrenhal]] is another example. On the face of it, it's an awesomely solid defensive construction, most of which has managed to stand the test of time -- if rather badly scorched, melted and battered. However, it's also a massive ode to [[TheTower hubris writ in stone]]. Even if it hadn't met [[NeverBringAKnifeToAGunFight ruin]]-[[KillItWithFire by]]-[[OutsideContextProblem unforeseen]]-[[WeaponOfMassDestruction dragons]] trimming its available living space a fair bit, it'd ''still'' have been an impossible castle to supply, maintain and run properly thanks to the sheer scale of the damned thing, and due to the army of servants and/or serfs needed to keep it going. Let alone anything else, like unsupportable supply lines in a notoriously politically unstable region given to being the standard battlefield of choice for the whole continent. The Riverlands and the Iron Isles would probably have been beggared and/or partiality depopulated and deforrested in just a couple of generations trying to make it work at its peak. As it is, even in its partially-used state, it's still TheMillstone around the neck of any poor, unsuspecting Family that gets given it as a "[[UnwantedGiftPlot reward]]" for services rendered. The Whents are only the latest Family to go under primarily due to its financial and logistical weight making them sitting ducks in the Game at the start of the series. The total list of [[HighTurnoverRate Houses to fall]] to the place: Qoherys -- totally extinct; Towers -- extinct; Harroway -- extinct; Strong -- extinct (although the name does resurface from time to time, probably stolen), Lothston -- extinct; Whent -- extinct in the main, male line, although a side-branch still struggles along; House Slynt -- new and still going, [[spoiler: although utterly stripped of the title, though Lord Slynt was sent to the Wall and executed; and, last but not least, Baelish -- gods alone know how that's going to play out, but he's so far studiously avoided going anywhere near the damn thing.]] Also, misfortune tends to find those who just hold it, entitled to or not: [[spoiler:Vargo Hoat, upon being captured by the Mountain, had pieces of him himself cut off each day and fed them to him; the Mountain himself suffered shortly after this afterwards upon getting wounded and began dying from an incredibly painful but slow poison,]] though [[spoiler:he may have survived via necromancy; necromancy]]; Roose Bolton's plans haven't been going so well since he left the place... and his erstwhile patron, Tyson Lannister, has also succumbed to HoistByHisOwnPetard.]] All this, in combination with the burning backstory and other notable historical disasters unrelated to actually running it, is why the common folk (and a few not-so-common) [[HauntedCastle consider the thing]] under an unspecified, if potent, {{Curse}}.
22nd Feb '17 7:51:40 PM Blazer
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* In ''Literature/CharlieAndTheChocolateFactory'', one of the stories about Willy Wonka was him building a palace out of chocolate for an Indian prince. All fine and dandy, but India lies on the ''Equator''. As Wonka warns the prince, the sun will melt it and melt it it does.
1st Jan '17 1:51:21 PM Kakai
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* At the end of ''Literature/{{Edgedancer}}'', Lift uses her newfound ability to manifest an AbsurdlySharpBlade from thin air to create a fork. She soon realizes that there's a very good reason kitchen utensils don't strive for AbsurdCuttingPower.
25th Dec '16 8:51:24 PM PlasmaTalon
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** Double-sided lightsabers have shades of this, as discussed in ''Literature/DarthBane''. Despite its impressive appearance the weapon has a number of obvious drawbacks. For starters its advantage of having more options is an illusion. The second blade greatly obstructs the user's movement, limiting them mostly to swings while making other moves harder. Requiring specialized training and a lot more stamina than a regular blade. The enlarged hilt is also an easy target for enemies. The weapon's real advantage comes from how little most know about it, and thus these weaknesses. Anyone who is familiar with the weapon can easily exploit these weaknesses.
6th Dec '16 3:05:43 PM Nentuaby
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** Several books treat [[FrickinLaserBeams blaster weapons]] this way. The plasma/laser bolt of a blaster technically does more damage than a rifle bullet, but it's slower and brightly-visible. Blasters are also said to foul up in bad terrain, like swamps, almost instantly, while your trusty [[BoringButPractical slugthrower]] won't stop firing until you throw it under a tank tread. The prevalence of armor-piercing blasters also made body armor much less common throughout the galaxy, with armies favoring lightweight uniforms so troops could move faster; this is the exact kind of target slugthrowers excel at fighting. Most of all, though, blaster bolts can be deflected by a Jedi's [[LaserBlade lightsaber]], but [[MugglesDoItBetter slugthrower bullets can't.]]

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** Several books treat [[FrickinLaserBeams blaster weapons]] this way. The plasma/laser bolt of a blaster technically does more damage than a rifle bullet, but it's slower and brightly-visible. Blasters are also said to foul up in bad terrain, like swamps, almost instantly, while your trusty [[BoringButPractical slugthrower]] won't stop firing until you throw it under a tank tread. The prevalence of armor-piercing blasters also made body armor much less common throughout the galaxy, with armies favoring lightweight uniforms so troops could move faster; this is the exact kind of target slugthrowers excel at fighting. Most of all, though, blaster bolts can be deflected by a Jedi's [[LaserBlade lightsaber]], but [[MugglesDoItBetter slugthrower bullets can't.]]]] ([[DependingOnTheWriter Other books emphatically do NOT treat blasters this way, of course.]] The bit about lightsabers not deflecting slugs is just plain not true in other works, for one.)
6th Dec '16 2:54:23 PM Nentuaby
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* In ''[[Literature/HonorHarrington On Basilisk Station]]'', Honor's [[CoolStarship ship]] was refitted with a shiny new weapon that could destroy the protective force fields on other ships. Unfortunately, it had a relatively miniscule range of about a hundred thousand kilometers, and required the removal of most of the ship's conventional missile and beam armanent, making it incredibly ineffective at typical combat distances of up to a few million kilometers. She manages to make use of it, but would have been much better off with the original BoringButPractical armanent. [[spoiler:Later books would reveal that her ship was intended to be a test platform for the grav lance, which was not supposed to be used in a real fight until enough of those issues had been worked out to make it more practical.]]

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* In ''[[Literature/HonorHarrington On Basilisk Station]]'', Honor's [[CoolStarship ship]] was refitted with a shiny new weapon that could destroy the protective force fields on other ships. Unfortunately, it had a relatively miniscule range of about a hundred thousand kilometers, and required the removal of most of the ship's conventional missile and beam armanent, making it incredibly ineffective at typical combat distances of up to a few million kilometers. She manages to make use of it, but would have been much better off with the original BoringButPractical armanent. [[spoiler:Later books would reveal that her Her ship was only intended to be a test platform for the grav lance, which was not supposed to be used in a real fight until enough of those issues had been worked out to make it more practical.]]practical-- but since it didn't turn out to even be promising in the wargames at the beginning of the book, the ship was ReassignedToAntarctica (along with its unfortunate commander) to save the Admiral responsible for it the embarassment of having it around. Of course it DID end up in combat, leading to the first of MANY ReassignmentBackfire moments for Harrington.
4th Dec '16 1:28:41 PM Bissek
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** Once missile pods were invented, they were mounted on two grades of warships: Superdreadnoughts and battlecruisers. Pod battlecruisers turned out to be fragile (when the pod core is fully worked out, it takes up the entire interior of the midships portion of the hull, leaving virtually no room for proper armor), easy to knock out of action, cramped, and in order to prop up salvo density, the missiles they carry are cruiser-weight rather than capital-weight.
** WordOfGod says that [[spoiler: LACs are a strategic dead-end]], making them this once navies have figured out a counter for them. Unlike BC(P)s, however, LACs still function as working area defense ships, helping larger and more important ships escape harm from extremely heavy pod missile salvos.

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** Once missile pods were invented, they designed warships that were mounted based on the ability to store, deploy and launch large numbers of pods in two grades of warships: classes: Superdreadnoughts and battlecruisers. Pod battlecruisers turned out to be fragile (when the pod core is fully worked out, it takes up the entire interior of the midships portion of the hull, leaving virtually no room for proper armor), easy to knock out of action, cramped, and in order to prop up salvo density, the missiles they carry are cruiser-weight rather than capital-weight.
capital-weight. They didn't even try making pod ships of classes smaller than battlecruisers (apart from a few anti-pirate Q-ships) because they wouldn't be large enough to store enough pods to be worth it.
** WordOfGod says that [[spoiler: LACs [=LACs=] are a strategic dead-end]], making them this once navies have figured out a counter for them. Unlike BC(P)s, however, LACs [=LACs=] still function as working area defense ships, helping larger and more important ships escape harm from extremely heavy pod missile salvos.
24th Nov '16 12:48:51 PM Euodiachloris
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** [[BigFancyCastle Harrenhal]] is another example. On the face of it, it's an awesomely solid defensive construction, most of which has managed to stand the test of time -- if rather badly scorched, melted and battered. However, it's also a massive ode to [[TheTower hubris writ in stone]]. Even if it hadn't met ruin-by-unforeseen-dragons trimming its available living space a fair bit, it'd ''still'' have been an impossible castle to supply, maintain and run properly thanks to the sheer scale of the damned thing, and due to the army of servants and/or serfs needed to keep it going. Let alone anything else, like unsupportable supply lines. The Riverlands and the Iron Isles would probably have been beggared and/or partiality depopulated and deforrested in just a couple of generations trying to make it work at its peak. As it is, even in its partially-used state, it's still TheMillstone around the neck of any poor, unsuspecting Family that gets given it as a "[[UnwantedGiftPlot reward]]" for services rendered. The Whents are only the latest Family to go under primarily due to its financial and logistical weight making them sitting ducks in the Game at the start of the series. The total list of Houses to fall to the place: Qoherys -- totally extinct; Towers -- extinct; Harroway -- extinct; Strong -- extinct (although the name does resurface from time to time, probably stolen), Lothston -- extinct; Whent -- extinct in the main, male line, although a side-branch still struggles along; House Slynt -- new and still going, [[spoiler: although utterly stripped of the title, though Lord Slynt was sent to the Wall and executed; and, last but not least, Baelish -- gods alone know how that's going to play out, but he's so far studiously avoided going anywhere near the damn thing.]] Also misfortune happens to those that hold it, [[spoiler:Vargo Hoat, captured by the Mountain, who had pieces of him cut off each day and fed them to him, and the Mountain, who shortly after this was wounded and began dying from an incredibly painful but slow poison,]] though [[spoiler:he may have survived via necromancy.]] All this, in combination with the burning backstory and other notable historical disasters unrelated to actually running it, is why the common folk (and a few not-so-common) [[HauntedCastle consider the thing]] under an unspecified, if potent, {{Curse}}.

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** [[BigFancyCastle Harrenhal]] is another example. On the face of it, it's an awesomely solid defensive construction, most of which has managed to stand the test of time -- if rather badly scorched, melted and battered. However, it's also a massive ode to [[TheTower hubris writ in stone]]. Even if it hadn't met ruin-by-unforeseen-dragons [[NeverBringAKnifeToAGunFight ruin]]-[[KillItWithFire by]]-[[OutsideContextProblem unforeseen]]-[[WeaponOfMassDestruction dragons]] trimming its available living space a fair bit, it'd ''still'' have been an impossible castle to supply, maintain and run properly thanks to the sheer scale of the damned thing, and due to the army of servants and/or serfs needed to keep it going. Let alone anything else, like unsupportable supply lines.lines in a notoriously politically unstable region given to being the standard battlefield of choice for the whole continent. The Riverlands and the Iron Isles would probably have been beggared and/or partiality depopulated and deforrested in just a couple of generations trying to make it work at its peak. As it is, even in its partially-used state, it's still TheMillstone around the neck of any poor, unsuspecting Family that gets given it as a "[[UnwantedGiftPlot reward]]" for services rendered. The Whents are only the latest Family to go under primarily due to its financial and logistical weight making them sitting ducks in the Game at the start of the series. The total list of [[HighTurnoverRate Houses to fall fall]] to the place: Qoherys -- totally extinct; Towers -- extinct; Harroway -- extinct; Strong -- extinct (although the name does resurface from time to time, probably stolen), Lothston -- extinct; Whent -- extinct in the main, male line, although a side-branch still struggles along; House Slynt -- new and still going, [[spoiler: although utterly stripped of the title, though Lord Slynt was sent to the Wall and executed; and, last but not least, Baelish -- gods alone know how that's going to play out, but he's so far studiously avoided going anywhere near the damn thing.]] Also Also, misfortune happens tends to find those that who just hold it, entitled to or not: [[spoiler:Vargo Hoat, upon being captured by the Mountain, who had pieces of him cut off each day and fed them to him, and him; the Mountain, who Mountain himself suffered shortly after this was upon getting wounded and began dying from an incredibly painful but slow poison,]] though [[spoiler:he may have survived via necromancy.necromancy; Roose Bolton's plans haven't been going so well since he left the place... and his erstwhile patron, Tyson Lannister, has also succumbed to HoistByHisOwnPetard.]] All this, in combination with the burning backstory and other notable historical disasters unrelated to actually running it, is why the common folk (and a few not-so-common) [[HauntedCastle consider the thing]] under an unspecified, if potent, {{Curse}}.
25th Oct '16 11:11:18 PM PaulA
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** Han Solo at Star's End's Corporate Sector Riot Gun. It can fire a constant stream of energy (used for mowing down a crowd as "crowd control") that can clear a room of combatants in a hurry. However, it has very poor aiming characteristics as Han Solo found out when trying to shoot at ESPOs using its single shot mode. It can only hit effectively on "constant fire" which dramatically increases the chances of friendly casualties in a pitched battle. Contrast with the obsolete blaster carbine (no designation mentioned) in the same book that was "rugged and extremely durable", "with simple telescopic sights", with "no moving parts" and "if left against a tree in the jungle, would still be fully operable ten years from now."

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** Han Solo at Star's End's ''Literature/HanSoloAtStarsEnd'': The Corporate Sector Riot Gun. It Gun can fire a constant stream of energy (used for mowing down a crowd as "crowd control") that can clear a room of combatants in a hurry. However, it has very poor aiming characteristics characteristics, as Han Solo found out when trying to shoot at ESPOs [=ESPOs=] using its single shot mode. It can only hit effectively on "constant fire" fire", which dramatically increases the chances of friendly casualties in a pitched battle. Contrast with the obsolete blaster carbine (no designation mentioned) in the same book that was "rugged and extremely durable", "with simple telescopic sights", with "no moving parts" and "if left against a tree in the jungle, would still be fully operable ten years from now."
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