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* Pretty much the whole of Oersted's version of the Final Chapter. You get to be the villain for once as you wipe out the heroes. His monologues at the start of the chapter and before each battle gave more of a feel to his perspective. The fact that you can [[https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/live_a_live_001.png CHOOSE Armageddon as a battle command]] was pretty cool too.
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* Pretty much the whole of Oersted's version of the Final Chapter. You get to be the villain for once as you wipe out the heroes. His monologues at the start of the chapter and before each battle gave more of a feel to his perspective. The As horrible as it is, Odio sells the idea in his speech as he begins to possess the villains of the other seven chapters.
--> '''Oersted/Odio:''' "Rewrite the tale. Just so! Your statues seven are my ink and quill. With magic potent, singular... Pure hate! I'll take up arms. Assume the guise we share. For we are Odio... and we will win!"
**The fact that you can [[https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/live_a_live_001.png CHOOSE Armageddon as a battle command]]was pretty cool too.is a highlight. The music as everything is blown away is as awe-inspiring as it is horrific, and the remake includes a final image of the '''[[ApocalypseWow world igniting in flame]]''' before it cuts to credits.
---> '''Oersted/Odio:''' Let All Creation Yield to My Command: Let Blinding White Subsume and Cleanse the Slate
--> '''Oersted/Odio:''' "Rewrite the tale. Just so! Your statues seven are my ink and quill. With magic potent, singular... Pure hate! I'll take up arms. Assume the guise we share. For we are Odio... and we will win!"
**The fact that you can [[https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/live_a_live_001.png CHOOSE Armageddon as a battle command]]
---> '''Oersted/Odio:''' Let All Creation Yield to My Command: Let Blinding White Subsume and Cleanse the Slate
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* Pogo invents the very first human word at the end of his chapter. What is it? ''Love''.[[note]]In the remake, he shouts "AIIEEE!!!" instead, but "ai" in Japanese means "love" so it counts.[[/note]]
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* Pogo invents the very first human word at the end of his chapter. What is it? ''Love''.[[note]]In the remake, he shouts "AIIEEE!!!" instead, but "ai" in Japanese means "love" "love", so it counts.[[/note]]
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* You don't necessarily have to rescue the hostage you are ordered to rescue, while going through the castle. What you're expected to do during a normal playthrough is to rescue him, then fight the BigBad of the chapter - but you ''can'' skip directly to the BigBad. If you do so, ''[[BigDamnHeroes he rescues you instead!]]'' Furthermore, TheReveal of who the Prisoner is also counts; he is UsefulNotes/SakamotoRyoma, a national hero of Japan who helped lead the way for Japan to become more industrialized and democratic.
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* You don't necessarily have to rescue the hostage you are ordered to rescue, while going through the castle. What you're expected to do during a normal playthrough is to rescue him, then fight the BigBad of the chapter - — but you ''can'' skip directly to the BigBad. If you do so, ''[[BigDamnHeroes he rescues you instead!]]'' Furthermore, TheReveal of who the Prisoner is also counts; he is UsefulNotes/SakamotoRyoma, a national hero of Japan who helped lead the way for Japan to become more industrialized and democratic.
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* If you so choose, you can forgo setting any of the traps. This means you fight a dozen fully armed, dangerous men or ghosts with only two guys, SpaghettiWestern style - and ''WIN''.
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* If you so choose, you can forgo setting any of the traps. This means you fight a dozen fully armed, dangerous men or ghosts with only two guys, SpaghettiWestern style - — and ''WIN''.
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** Then there's Akira's ScrewDestiny towards becoming liquified fuel for Odeo.
-->'''Akira:''' That thing's no god of mine! And I'm not melding with these freaks or anything else. Still with me? ''(golden glow returns as "Megalomania" starts blaring) THEN LET'S FINISH THIS, MATSU!
-->'''Akira:''' That thing's no god of mine! And I'm not melding with these freaks or anything else. Still with me? ''(golden glow returns as "Megalomania" starts blaring) THEN LET'S FINISH THIS, MATSU!
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** Then there's Akira's ScrewDestiny towards becoming liquified liquefied fuel for Odeo.
-->'''Akira:''' That thing's no god of mine! And I'm not melding with these freaks or anything else. Still with me? ''(golden glow returns as "Megalomania" starts blaring) THEN LET'S FINISH THIS,MATSU!MATSU!''
-->'''Akira:''' That thing's no god of mine! And I'm not melding with these freaks or anything else. Still with me? ''(golden glow returns as "Megalomania" starts blaring) THEN LET'S FINISH THIS,
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** When Rachel tries to kill herself and almost kills Cube in the process, Kato saves them. Also a part of the main CharacterDevelopment thread of Cube progressively behaving and being considered as a human.
** And of course, Cube themself by defeating the BigBad of the chapter. Even more so considering they had no fighting ability, and hacked the virtual reality in which the fight happens to give themself some fighting abilities- that they keep once back in the real world!
** And of course, Cube themself by defeating the BigBad of the chapter. Even more so considering they had no fighting ability, and hacked the virtual reality in which the fight happens to give themself some fighting abilities- that they keep once back in the real world!
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** When Rachel tries to kill herself and almost kills Cube in the process, Kato saves them. Also a part of the main CharacterDevelopment thread of Cube progressively behaving like and being considered as a human.
** And of course, Cube themself by defeating the BigBad of the chapter. Even more so considering they had no fighting ability, and hacked the virtual reality in which the fight happens to give themself some fightingabilities- abilities — that they keep once back in the real world!
** And of course, Cube themself by defeating the BigBad of the chapter. Even more so considering they had no fighting ability, and hacked the virtual reality in which the fight happens to give themself some fighting
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* The moment Oersted stops being a HeroicMime and proclaims his undying hatred of the world and everyone in it (using Odio's font, no less!). After all the horrible things that happened to him, slowly destroying everything he believed in, [[BreakTheCutie he finally snaps, and it is awesome.]]
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* The moment Oersted stops being a HeroicMime and proclaims his undying hatred of the world and everyone in it (using Odio's font, no less!). After all the horrible things that happened to him, slowly destroying everything he believed in, [[BreakTheCutie he finally snaps, and it is awesome.]] awesome]].
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* In the remake this chapter gets its own unique character selection screen, a hellish red vortex on a dark background with each character swirling around it on blue pedestals (except for Oersted, who gets a red one to signify his version of this chapter will be ''very'' different). When you select anyone besides Oersted, the confirmation screen has the other heroes [[AvengersAssemble line up behind them]] in a row like the BadassCrew they will become, making it clear they will ''not'' be alone.
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* In the remake remake, this chapter gets its own unique character selection screen, a hellish red vortex on a dark background with each character swirling around it on blue pedestals (except for Oersted, who gets a red one to signify that his version of this chapter will be ''very'' different). When you select anyone besides Oersted, the confirmation screen has the other heroes [[AvengersAssemble line up behind them]] in a row like the BadassCrew they will become, making it clear they will ''not'' be alone.
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* And what about seven people from different eras, that never met neither know, and even fight between themselves at the beginning, defeat ''the God of Hatred!!'' Bonus points for the fact that at least four of them (Pogo, the Earthen Heart inheritor, Oboro, and the Sundown Kid) should logically have extreme difficulty meaningfully communicating due to their wildly disparate eras of origin (prehistory, ancient China, feudal Japan, and the American Wild West).
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* And what about seven people from different eras, that never met neither know, each other, and even fight between themselves at the beginning, defeat defeating ''the God of Hatred!!'' Bonus points for the fact that at least four of them (Pogo, the Earthen Heart inheritor, Oboro, and the Sundown Kid) should logically have extreme difficulty meaningfully communicating due to their wildly disparate eras of origin (prehistory, ancient China, feudal Japan, and the American Wild West).
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* The BossRush that precedes the GoldenEnding, especially if you've made sure to find all the characters and gone through their dungeons during the final chapter. Each character once again faces the Odio incarnation they battled in their own eras, except ''this'' time, they have all the experience and training they achieved during their journey through time, and the VillainForgotToLevelGrind! As such, what was once a terrifying enemy, is now almost laughable. The Earthen Heart Inheritor and Masaru can fell Ou Di Wan Lee and Odie O'Bright with a single blow, Sundown can kill O. Dio with a single shot from his gun, and Pogo ends up turning Odo into dino-KFC again without the help of his best friend and soon-to-be wed wife, because as strong as they were, now they are ''NOTHING!'' Even better, instead of Megalomania, the characters' respective battle themes play in these fights. They aren't just overpowering Odio's many forms in terms of stats, they're overpowering him in the soundtrack as well! At the beginning of all this, your chosen main protagonist (unless you picked [[IdiotHero Pogo]] or [[TheUnintelligible Cube]]) says something to the effect of that [[ShutUpHannibal no matter what happens]], they and the other protagonists ''will'' be victorious and return home.
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* The BossRush that precedes the GoldenEnding, especially if you've made sure to find all the characters and gone through their dungeons during the final chapter. Each character once again faces the Odio incarnation they battled in their own eras, except ''this'' time, they have all the experience and training they achieved during their journey through time, and the VillainForgotToLevelGrind! As such, what was once a terrifying enemy, enemy is now almost laughable. The Earthen Heart Inheritor and Masaru can fell Ou Di Wan Lee and Odie O'Bright with a single blow, Sundown can kill O. Dio with a single shot from his gun, and Pogo ends up turning Odo into dino-KFC again without the help of his best friend and soon-to-be wed wife, because as strong as they were, now they are ''NOTHING!'' Even better, instead of Megalomania, the characters' respective battle themes play in these fights. They aren't just overpowering Odio's many forms in terms of stats, they're overpowering him in the soundtrack as well! At the beginning of all this, your chosen main protagonist (unless you picked [[IdiotHero Pogo]] or [[TheUnintelligible Cube]]) says something to the effect of that [[ShutUpHannibal no matter what happens]], they and the other protagonists ''will'' be victorious and return home.
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* In the remake there's a TrueFinalBoss in Odio himself as he forcibly takes control and unleashes his ultimate form, Sin of Odio. After you beat him, he unleashes an attack called Absolute Condemnation that strikes the four heroes you chose down. Everything looks bleak... until the three you didn't choose come in to save the day! This leads to ''all seven heroes'' helping to take down Odio, and all the while as you're battling him, you hear Oersted [[FightingFromTheInside trying to break free of Odio's thrall]]... until finally, when all seven heroes are struck down once again, '''Oersted literally and figuratively breaks free from his hatred''' to land the final attack on Odio as a powerful act of redemption, finally becoming the hero he could've been in the end.
* Oersted's words as he frees himself are an ''awesome'' CallBack to Hasshe's dying words, too; Hasshe had given up on humanity, but remained the hero of Lucrece to the end of his life because he knew that, when people asked for someone to help them, he'd faithfully answer 'I will.' All seven heroes hit Odio with everything they had, freeing Oersted, but needed just a little more damage to finish the creature off. And in their moment of need...
* Oersted's words as he frees himself are an ''awesome'' CallBack to Hasshe's dying words, too; Hasshe had given up on humanity, but remained the hero of Lucrece to the end of his life because he knew that, when people asked for someone to help them, he'd faithfully answer 'I will.' All seven heroes hit Odio with everything they had, freeing Oersted, but needed just a little more damage to finish the creature off. And in their moment of need...
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* In the remake remake, there's a TrueFinalBoss in Odio himself as he forcibly takes control and unleashes his ultimate form, Sin of Odio. After you beat him, he unleashes an attack called Absolute Condemnation that strikes the four heroes you chose down. Everything looks bleak... until the three you didn't choose come in to save the day! This leads to ''all seven heroes'' helping to take down Odio, and all the while as you're battling him, you hear Oersted [[FightingFromTheInside trying to break free of Odio's thrall]]... until finally, when all seven heroes are struck down once again, '''Oersted literally and figuratively breaks free from his hatred''' to land the final attack on Odio as a powerful act of redemption, finally becoming the hero he could've been in the end.
* Oersted's words as he frees himself are an ''awesome'' CallBack to Hasshe's dying words, too; Hasshe had given up on humanity, but remained the hero of Lucrece to the end of his life because he knew that, when people asked for someone to help them, he'd faithfully answer 'I will.' All seven heroes hit Odio with everything they had, freeing Oersted, but needed just a little more damage to finish the creature off. And in their moment ofneed...need…
* Oersted's words as he frees himself are an ''awesome'' CallBack to Hasshe's dying words, too; Hasshe had given up on humanity, but remained the hero of Lucrece to the end of his life because he knew that, when people asked for someone to help them, he'd faithfully answer 'I will.' All seven heroes hit Odio with everything they had, freeing Oersted, but needed just a little more damage to finish the creature off. And in their moment of
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** Masaru gets a great one, too, establishing he understands that there's more to being the best than being 'the strongest;' muscles will wither one day, but a spirit can stay passionate and driven until the very end. His speech also serves as one final 'screw you' to Odie; Odie was undeniably powerful, and proved as much beating down the same masters Masaru did, but his power wasn't going to ''take him'' anywhere. His only reason to exist was to kill and grow stronger, something that would have failed Odie when he became old and frail. For all of his proselytizing to Masaru about the meaning of strength, Masaru truly understood far more than Odie ever could. Additionally, he manages to prove Odie's claims that he would have to kill ''wrong.'' Oersted only dies because he went all out and burned himself down; as the protagonist, Masaru can absolutely say nuts to finishing Oersted off - and doing so is what allows Masaru to get back home in the end. When Masaru was faced with the choice to definitively end Odio's scourge for good at the cost of a man's life or give that man a chance at redemption, he chose redemption.
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** Masaru gets a great one, too, establishing he understands that there's more to being the best than being 'the strongest;' strongest'; muscles will wither one day, but a spirit can stay passionate and driven until the very end. His speech also serves as one final 'screw you' to Odie; Odie was undeniably powerful, and proved as much beating down the same masters Masaru did, but his power wasn't going to ''take him'' anywhere. His only reason to exist was to kill and grow stronger, something that would have failed Odie when he became old and frail. For all of his proselytizing to Masaru about the meaning of strength, Masaru truly understood far more than Odie ever could. Additionally, he manages to prove Odie's claims that he would have to kill ''wrong.'' ''wrong''. Oersted only dies because he went all out and burned himself down; as the protagonist, Masaru can absolutely say nuts to finishing Oersted off - — and doing so is what allows Masaru to get back home in the end. When Masaru was faced with the choice to definitively end Odio's scourge for good at the cost of a man's life or give that man a chance at redemption, he chose redemption.
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-->'''Masaru:''' You... You son of a bitch. A warrior? Like HELL you are! You're just a cold-blooded murderer!
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-->'''Masaru:''' And with my own... righteous fury-- ''I WILL END YOU!''
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-->'''Masaru:''' And with my own... righteous fury-- ''("Megalomania" starts blaring)'' ''I WILL END YOU!''
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** Then there's Akira's ScrewDestiny towards becoming liquified fuel for Odeo.
-->'''Akira:''' That thing's no god of mine! And I'm not melding with these freaks or anything else. Still with me? ''(golden glow returns as "Megalomania" starts blaring) THEN LET'S FINISH THIS, MATSU!
-->'''Akira:''' That thing's no god of mine! And I'm not melding with these freaks or anything else. Still with me? ''(golden glow returns as "Megalomania" starts blaring) THEN LET'S FINISH THIS, MATSU!
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* You don't necessarily have to rescue the hostage you are ordered to rescue, while going through the castle. What you're expected to do during a normal playthrough is to rescue him, then fight the BigBad of the chapter - but you ''can'' skip directly to the BigBad. If you do so, ''[[BigDamnHeroes he rescues you instead!]]''instead!]]'' Furthermore, TheReveal of who the Prisoner is also counts; he is UsefulNotes/SakamotoRyoma, a national hero of Japan who helped lead the way for Japan to become more industrialized and democratic.
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* The BossRush that precedes the GoldenEnding, especially if you've made sure to find all the characters and gone through their dungeons during the final chapter. Each character once again faces the Odio incarnation they battled in their own eras, except ''this'' time, they have all the experience and training they achieved during their journey through time, and the VillainForgotToLevelGrind! As such, what was once a terrifying enemy, is now almost laughable. The Earthen Heart Inheritor and Masaru can fell Ou Di Wan Lee and Odie O'Bright with a single blow, Sundown can kill O. Dio with a single shot from his gun, because as strong as they were, now they are ''NOTHING!'' Even better, instead of Megalomania, the characters' respective battle themes play in these fights. They aren't just overpowering Odio's many forms in terms of stats, they're overpowering him in the soundtrack as well! At the beginning of all this, your chosen main protagonist (unless you picked [[IdiotHero Pogo]] or [[TheUnintelligible Cube]]) says something to the effect of that [[ShutUpHannibal no matter what happens]], they and the other protagonists ''will'' be victorious and return home.
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* The BossRush that precedes the GoldenEnding, especially if you've made sure to find all the characters and gone through their dungeons during the final chapter. Each character once again faces the Odio incarnation they battled in their own eras, except ''this'' time, they have all the experience and training they achieved during their journey through time, and the VillainForgotToLevelGrind! As such, what was once a terrifying enemy, is now almost laughable. The Earthen Heart Inheritor and Masaru can fell Ou Di Wan Lee and Odie O'Bright with a single blow, Sundown can kill O. Dio with a single shot from his gun, and Pogo ends up turning Odo into dino-KFC again without the help of his best friend and soon-to-be wed wife, because as strong as they were, now they are ''NOTHING!'' Even better, instead of Megalomania, the characters' respective battle themes play in these fights. They aren't just overpowering Odio's many forms in terms of stats, they're overpowering him in the soundtrack as well! At the beginning of all this, your chosen main protagonist (unless you picked [[IdiotHero Pogo]] or [[TheUnintelligible Cube]]) says something to the effect of that [[ShutUpHannibal no matter what happens]], they and the other protagonists ''will'' be victorious and return home.
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--->'''Akira:''' Know what your problem is? You blamed everyone else. Said it was them or gods or fate that made you what you are. But it was '''you!''' Just you! [[HumansAreFlawed Yeah, people can suck. We can be selfish -- look out only for ourselves.]] But if you [[AccentuateTheNegative focus only on the bad -- judge them at their worst]], well... You've already made up your mind, haven't you? Everything else is ''just an excuse!''
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--->'''Akira:''' Know what your problem is? You blamed everyone else. Said it was them or gods or fate that made you what you are. But it was '''you!''' Just you! [[HumansAreFlawed Yeah, people can suck. We can be selfish -- — look out only for ourselves.]] But if you [[AccentuateTheNegative focus only on the bad -- — judge them at their worst]], well... You've already made up your mind, haven't you? Everything else is ''just an excuse!''