History Awesome / LiarGame

15th Apr '15 9:23:39 AM MitchellTF
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* Akiyama and Nao's gambit in the final round. [[spoiler: They both knew that Yokoya would make both his and Akiyama's team lose so that he could have his revenge on them. So, they tricked the other two teams into locking themselves into a deadlock.]] However, that's just the best part. [[spoiler: Akiyama rubs in Yoyoka's face that it was basically Nao that defeated him. This leads to Yoyoka basically giving up and giving Nao and Akiyama what they want, uniting the players against the LGT, thus causing them to cancel the game.]]
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* Akiyama and Nao's gambit in the final round. [[spoiler: They both knew that Yokoya would make both his and Akiyama's team lose so that he could have his revenge on them. So, they tricked the other two teams into locking themselves into a deadlock.]] However, that's just the best part. [[spoiler: Akiyama rubs in Yoyoka's face that it was basically Nao that defeated him. This leads to Yoyoka basically giving up and giving Nao and Akiyama what they want, uniting the players against the LGT, thus causing them to cancel the game.]] **[[spoiler: To repeat. THEY BROKE THE LIAR GAME, convinced Yoyoka to turn 'good', and all in all won completely and utterly.]]
19th Mar '15 1:49:48 AM Cozzer
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Tweaking spoiler blocks.
** Also, Nao's speech to Yokoya at the end of Round 3. "[[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech Even though you may have made big money, Mr. Yokoya, you LOST the contest with me.]]" *** Made more awesome by the fact when she claimed she found a way to defeat the zero-sum game, that she was ''entirely bluffing'' and Yokoya completely ''fell for it'', hook line and sinker.

* At the end of the Contraband Game, Nao lays out a BreakingSpeech / TheReasonYouSuckSpeech on Yokoya like a king hit. [[spoiler:Yokoya, by his own standards, had just ''won''. Yet, Nao's speech was able to take a self-interested, greedy manipulator and through force of personality and the dissonance of her seeming honesty, shake Yokoya's assumptions about what he knew, and what she knew. She also chose a great time to strike - right after Yokoya delivered a successful BreakingSpeech to resident Chessmaster Akiyama. Nao then breaks down all the reasons that Yokoya was the true loser, and Yokoya claims that since he won quite a large sum of money, and that since the Liar Game tournament is essentially a zero sum game (or "one person winning means another person loses), Nao's goal of saving everybody is impossible. Nao then tells Yokoya that there was a very simple way of toppling his assumption before leaving, successfully provoking him into entering the next round when he had been planning on just quitting. Then, when Akiyama asks Nao how she was going to break the zero sum game, Nao then [[BatmanGambit admits that she had been lying, and said those words solely to provoke him into another round where they'll have another chance at taking back all the money that Yokoya took and use it to pay off everybody's debts]]]]. ** And then Nao does it ''again'', [[spoiler: to the same person no less. Yoyoka explains that he lives on his father's philosophy that "a person's worth is decided by how many people he controls." Nao then deconstructs this by pointing out that if he's living by his father's philosophy, then that means that he has no worth of his own since his father controls him.]]
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\n* At the end of the Contraband Game, Nao lays out a BreakingSpeech / TheReasonYouSuckSpeech on Yokoya like a king hit. hit, even if [[spoiler:Yokoya, by his own standards, had just ''won''. Yet, ''won'']]. Nao's speech was able to take a self-interested, greedy manipulator and through force of personality and the dissonance of her seeming honesty, shake Yokoya's assumptions about what he knew, and what she knew. She also chose a great time to strike - right after Yokoya delivered a successful BreakingSpeech to resident Chessmaster Akiyama. Nao then breaks [[spoiler:breaks down all the reasons that Yokoya was the true loser, and Yokoya claims that since he won quite a large sum of money, and that since the Liar Game tournament is essentially a zero sum game (or "one person winning means another person loses), Nao's goal of saving everybody is impossible. Nao then tells Yokoya that there was a very simple way of toppling his assumption before leaving, successfully provoking him into entering the next round when he had been planning on just quitting. Then, when Akiyama asks Nao how she was going to break the zero sum game, Nao then [[BatmanGambit admits that she had been lying, and said those words solely to provoke him into another round where they'll have another chance at taking back all the money that Yokoya took and use it to pay off everybody's debts]]]]. ** And then Nao does it ''again'', ''again'' at the beginning of the last round, [[spoiler: to the same person no less. Yoyoka explains that he lives on his father's philosophy that "a person's worth is decided by how many people he controls." Nao then deconstructs this by pointing out that if he's living by his father's philosophy, then that means that he has no worth of his own since his father controls him.]] ]]

* Chapter 124, where Nao is the one pointing out that despite being pressed on both sides by Yokoya's and Harimoto's groups, those two groups will eventually need to team up with Akiyama and the "Extra's" group because they have the most voters to decide the winner. Which means, they have the upper hand over both groups. Even Fukugana is stunned that the previous crybaby, frightened girl who used to be so easily tricked by others was the one who was calling the shots. ** And then she goes and gets another moment in Chapter 156 when, through her own planning, she [[spoiler:realizes that the true leader of Harimoto's group is actually ''Kimura''.]] As it hasn't been confirmed yet, she ''might'' be wrong, but it certainly seems plausible, [[FridgeBrilliance with what we were shown]]... *** It was indeed proven to be true. And even though Akiyama already knew that, it still doesn't change the fact that Nao figured that out all by herself and in her own way. * Nao's short speech in chapter 187. [[spoiler:She sees right through Yokoya once he describes his father's teaching that "a person's worth is decided by how many other people he controls." This has, apparently, been what has been guiding him throughout the Liar Game. In response, Nao points out that, because Yokoya is merely putting into practice his father's words, everything he does is not thanks to his own ability. It's thanks to his father's control, and Yokoya will never be able to break free from that control if he continues to live by his father's words. Even Yokoya goes speechless, and pale with fear.]] Let's restate that: ''Nao'' just gave [[spoiler:''Yokoya'']] a BreakingSpeech. [[CharacterDevelopment Hot damn]].
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* Chapter 124, 124 during the Musical Chairs game, where Nao is the one pointing out that despite being pressed on both sides by Yokoya's and Harimoto's groups, those two groups will eventually need to team up with Akiyama and the "Extra's" group because they have the most voters to decide the winner. Which means, they have the upper hand over both groups. Even Fukugana Fukunaga is stunned that the previous crybaby, frightened girl who used to be so easily tricked by others was the one who was calling the shots. ** And then she goes and gets another moment in Chapter 156 of the Bid Poker game when, through her own planning, she [[spoiler:realizes that the true leader of Harimoto's group is actually ''Kimura''.]] As it hasn't been confirmed yet, she ''might'' be wrong, but it certainly seems plausible, [[FridgeBrilliance with what we were shown]]... *** It was indeed proven to be true. And even though ''Kimura'']]. Akiyama already knew that, but it still doesn't change the fact that Nao figured that out all by herself and in her own way. * Nao's short speech in chapter 187.187, at the beginning of the last game of the last round. [[spoiler:She sees right through Yokoya once he describes his father's teaching that "a person's worth is decided by how many other people he controls." This has, apparently, been what has been guiding him throughout the Liar Game. In response, Nao points out that, because Yokoya is merely putting into practice his father's words, everything he does is not thanks to his own ability. It's thanks to his father's control, and Yokoya will never be able to break free from that control if he continues to live by his father's words. Even Yokoya goes speechless, and pale with fear.]] Let's restate that: ''Nao'' just gave [[spoiler:''Yokoya'']] a BreakingSpeech. [[CharacterDevelopment Hot damn]].
19th Mar '15 1:45:24 AM Cozzer
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Moving here some of the longer rants from the main page.
* Basically, anytime Akiyama-san delivers a ''coup de grace'' is a [=CMoA=]. One can routinely get a feel for whatever ridiculous - but nonetheless ''awesome'' - thing Akiyama's going to do when the game is demonstrated, by imagining what a normal person would think of as the ''stupidest'' move in a game, then wondering why a super-genius Chessmaster might do it ''deliberately.'' Net upshot? Stuff that looks CrazyAwesome that's actually AwesomeByAnalysis. In a manga based around winning high-stakes games of wits, he does this a '''''lot''''':
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* Basically, anytime Akiyama-san Akiyama delivers a ''coup de grace'' is a [=CMoA=]. One can routinely get a feel for whatever ridiculous - but nonetheless ''awesome'' - thing Akiyama's going to do when the game is demonstrated, by imagining what a normal person would think of as the ''stupidest'' move in a game, then wondering why a super-genius Chessmaster might do it ''deliberately.'' Net upshot? Stuff that looks CrazyAwesome that's actually AwesomeByAnalysis. In a manga based around winning high-stakes games of wits, he does this a '''''lot''''':

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* Basically, anytime Akiyama-san delivers a ''coup de grace'' is a [=CMoA=]. One can routinely get a feel for whatever ridiculous - but nonetheless ''awesome'' - thing Akiyama's going to do when At the game is demonstrated, end of the Contraband Game, Nao lays out a BreakingSpeech / TheReasonYouSuckSpeech on Yokoya like a king hit. [[spoiler:Yokoya, by imagining his own standards, had just ''won''. Yet, Nao's speech was able to take a self-interested, greedy manipulator and through force of personality and the dissonance of her seeming honesty, shake Yokoya's assumptions about what he knew, and what she knew. She also chose a normal person would think of as the ''stupidest'' move in great time to strike - right after Yokoya delivered a game, then wondering why a super-genius successful BreakingSpeech to resident Chessmaster might do it ''deliberately.'' Net upshot? Stuff Akiyama. Nao then breaks down all the reasons that looks CrazyAwesome that's actually AwesomeByAnalysis. In Yokoya was the true loser, and Yokoya claims that since he won quite a manga based around large sum of money, and that since the Liar Game tournament is essentially a zero sum game (or "one person winning high-stakes games means another person loses), Nao's goal of wits, saving everybody is impossible. Nao then tells Yokoya that there was a very simple way of toppling his assumption before leaving, successfully provoking him into entering the next round when he had been planning on just quitting. Then, when Akiyama asks Nao how she was going to break the zero sum game, Nao then [[BatmanGambit admits that she had been lying, and said those words solely to provoke him into another round where they'll have another chance at taking back all the money that Yokoya took and use it to pay off everybody's debts]]]]. ** And then Nao does it ''again'', [[spoiler: to the same person no less. Yoyoka explains that he lives on his father's philosophy that "a person's worth is decided by how many people he controls." Nao then deconstructs this a '''''lot''''':by pointing out that if he's living by his father's philosophy, then that means that he has no worth of his own since his father controls him.]]
15th Jan '15 7:27:46 PM Jgamer
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* Akiyama and Nao's gambit in the final round. [[spoiler: They both knew that Yokoya would make both his and Akiyama's team lose so that he could have his revenge on them. So, they tricked the other two teams into locking themselves into a deadlock.]]
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* Akiyama and Nao's gambit in the final round. [[spoiler: They both knew that Yokoya would make both his and Akiyama's team lose so that he could have his revenge on them. So, they tricked the other two teams into locking themselves into a deadlock.]] However, that's just the best part. [[spoiler: Akiyama rubs in Yoyoka's face that it was basically Nao that defeated him. This leads to Yoyoka basically giving up and giving Nao and Akiyama what they want, uniting the players against the LGT, thus causing them to cancel the game.]]
15th Jan '15 7:18:38 PM Jgamer
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* Nao's short speech in chapter 187. [[spoiler:She sees right through Yokoya once he describes his father's teaching that "a person's worth is decided by how many other people he controls." This has, apparently, been what has been guiding him throughout the Liar Game. In response, Nao points out that, because Yokoya is merely putting into practice his father's words, everything he does is not thanks to his own ability. It's thanks to his father's control, and Yokoya will never be able to break free from that control if he continues to live by his father's words. Even Yokoya goes speechless, and pale with fear.]] Let's restate that: ''Nao'' just gave [[spoiler:''Yokoya'']] a BreakingSpeech. [[CharacterDevelopment Hot damn]].
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* Nao's short speech in chapter 187. [[spoiler:She sees right through Yokoya once he describes his father's teaching that "a person's worth is decided by how many other people he controls." This has, apparently, been what has been guiding him throughout the Liar Game. In response, Nao points out that, because Yokoya is merely putting into practice his father's words, everything he does is not thanks to his own ability. It's thanks to his father's control, and Yokoya will never be able to break free from that control if he continues to live by his father's words. Even Yokoya goes speechless, and pale with fear.]] Let's restate that: ''Nao'' just gave [[spoiler:''Yokoya'']] a BreakingSpeech. [[CharacterDevelopment Hot damn]].damn]]. * Akiyama and Nao's gambit in the final round. [[spoiler: They both knew that Yokoya would make both his and Akiyama's team lose so that he could have his revenge on them. So, they tricked the other two teams into locking themselves into a deadlock.]]
13th Sep '14 2:06:48 PM ChaoticTrilby
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* Nao's short speech in chapter 187. [[spoiler:She sees right through Yokoya once he describes his father's teaching that "a person's worth is decided by how many other people he controls." This has, apparently, been what has been guiding him throughout the Liar Game. In response, Nao points out that, because Yokoya is merely putting into practice his father's words, everything he does is not thanks to his own ability. It's thanks to his father's control, and Yokoya will never be able to break free from that control if he continues to live by his father's words.]] Even Yokoya goes speechless, and pale with fear.]] Nao just gave [[spoiler:''Yokoya'']] a BreakingSpeech.
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* Nao's short speech in chapter 187. [[spoiler:She sees right through Yokoya once he describes his father's teaching that "a person's worth is decided by how many other people he controls." This has, apparently, been what has been guiding him throughout the Liar Game. In response, Nao points out that, because Yokoya is merely putting into practice his father's words, everything he does is not thanks to his own ability. It's thanks to his father's control, and Yokoya will never be able to break free from that control if he continues to live by his father's words.]] Even Yokoya goes speechless, and pale with fear.]] Nao Let's restate that: ''Nao'' just gave [[spoiler:''Yokoya'']] a BreakingSpeech.BreakingSpeech. [[CharacterDevelopment Hot damn]].
13th Sep '14 2:05:43 PM ChaoticTrilby
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*** It was indeed proven to be true. And even though Akiyama already knew that, it still doesn't change the fact that Nao figured that out all by herself and in her own way.
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*** It was indeed proven to be true. And even though Akiyama already knew that, it still doesn't change the fact that Nao figured that out all by herself and in her own way.way. * Nao's short speech in chapter 187. [[spoiler:She sees right through Yokoya once he describes his father's teaching that "a person's worth is decided by how many other people he controls." This has, apparently, been what has been guiding him throughout the Liar Game. In response, Nao points out that, because Yokoya is merely putting into practice his father's words, everything he does is not thanks to his own ability. It's thanks to his father's control, and Yokoya will never be able to break free from that control if he continues to live by his father's words.]] Even Yokoya goes speechless, and pale with fear.]] Nao just gave [[spoiler:''Yokoya'']] a BreakingSpeech.
24th May '14 1:00:27 PM RevDave
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** In the second round Akiyama needs only one word to throw the last vote into a ridiculous spiral. "The word is "NO".
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** In the second round Akiyama needs only one word to throw the last vote into a ridiculous spiral. "The [[http://www.mangahere.co/manga/liar_game/v02/c015/15.html The word is "NO".]]
14th Dec '12 1:33:11 AM JonathanscarletTVT
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** And then she goes and gets another moment in Chapter 156 when, through her own planning, she [[spoiler:realizes that the true leader of Harimoto's group is actually ''Kimura''.]] As it hasn't been confirmed yet, she ''might'' be wrong, but it certainly seems plausible, [[FridgeBrilliance with what we were shown]]...
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** And then she goes and gets another moment in Chapter 156 when, through her own planning, she [[spoiler:realizes that the true leader of Harimoto's group is actually ''Kimura''.]] As it hasn't been confirmed yet, she ''might'' be wrong, but it certainly seems plausible, [[FridgeBrilliance with what we were shown]]...shown]]... *** It was indeed proven to be true. And even though Akiyama already knew that, it still doesn't change the fact that Nao figured that out all by herself and in her own way.
29th Nov '12 5:50:37 PM sgamer82
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* In the finale of Musical Chairs, Akiyama [[spoiler: defeats Yokoya by encircling him with the Gaya Alliance so he cannot get to his chair and sit in it to claim victory. ''All Yokoya had to do was sit in a chair and win'']].
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* In the finale of Musical Chairs, Akiyama [[spoiler: defeats Yokoya by encircling him with the Gaya "Extra" Alliance so he cannot get to his chair and sit in it to claim victory. ''All Yokoya had to do was sit in a chair and win'']].
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