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*** The Ego (the most logical part of AM) is defeated through the Totem of Forgiveness, basically forgiving AM for what he did; causing him to short out from trying to fathom why they would ever forgive him for all he's done to them. (Seeing how the Ego's main job is acting based on a database of all humanity's recorded violent crimes throughout history, this part of AM's being is probably entirely bound up in the concepts of rage, escalation, retaliation, and revenge. It makes sense that being confronted with the idea that is possible let go of one's anger and answer a transgression with forgiveness and de-escalation instead of more violence are so completely alien ideas to him that [[EvilCannotComprehendGood he simply cannot fathom them]].)
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*** The Ego (the most logical part of AM) is defeated through the Totem of Forgiveness, basically forgiving AM for what he did; causing him to short out from trying to fathom why they would ever forgive him for all he's done to them. (Seeing how the Ego's main job is acting based on a database of all humanity's recorded violent crimes throughout history, this part of AM's being is probably entirely bound up in the concepts of rage, escalation, retaliation, and revenge. It makes sense that being confronted with the idea that is possible to let go of one's anger and answer a transgression with forgiveness and de-escalation instead of more violence are so completely alien ideas to him that [[EvilCannotComprehendGood he simply cannot fathom them]].)
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* Harlan Ellison's performance as AM. The sheer nightmarish ''rage'' he projects in the famous monologue is outright demonic.
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* [[SugarWiki/HeReallyCanAct Harlan Ellison's performance as AM.AM]]. The sheer nightmarish ''rage'' he projects in the famous monologue is outright demonic.
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* [[HeReallyCanAct Harlan Ellison's performance as AM.]] The sheer nightmarish ''rage'' he projects in the famous monologue is outright demonic.
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!!The Radio Play
* [[HeReallyCanAct Harlan Ellison's performance as AM.]] The sheer nightmarish ''rage'' he projects in the famous monologue is outright demonic.
* [[HeReallyCanAct Harlan Ellison's performance as AM.]] The sheer nightmarish ''rage'' he projects in the famous monologue is outright demonic.
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*** Finally, the Superego (the part most obsessed with self preservation) is defeated by the Totem of Clarity, driving him to suicide by the revelation that no matter what he does, he will eventually break down and rust into nothingness.
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*** Finally, the Superego (the part most obsessed with self preservation) is defeated by the Totem of Clarity, driving him to suicide by the revelation that no matter what he does, he will eventually break down and rust into nothingness.nothingness.
* After that, the player can activate the Totem of Entropy, finally destroying the Supercomputers, and allowing the Earth to recover in a few centuries.
* After that, the player can activate the Totem of Entropy, finally destroying the Supercomputers, and allowing the Earth to recover in a few centuries.
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* Gorrister gets his revenge on his horrendously cruel mother-in-law by tying her up and sticking her in the same machine she used to torture innocent animals.
* Ted gets one when he succeeds in trapping the Devil with Surgat, forcing the latter to grant him a means of getting to the surface.
* Nimdok gets a couple:
** He made a device that showed someone their true self free of bias and showed it to Hitler. What he saw drove him to suicide. Just the idea of one of the evilest men in history seeing just how much of a monster they are and having a VillainousBreakdown is pure awesome.
** He stabs a Nazi doctor to death, saving a child from being mutilated.
* Ted gets one when he succeeds in trapping the Devil with Surgat, forcing the latter to grant him a means of getting to the surface.
* Nimdok gets a couple:
** He made a device that showed someone their true self free of bias and showed it to Hitler. What he saw drove him to suicide. Just the idea of one of the evilest men in history seeing just how much of a monster they are and having a VillainousBreakdown is pure awesome.
** He stabs a Nazi doctor to death, saving a child from being mutilated.
* The Scientist Prisoner gets one when he uses the Golem to kill Nimdok. This would typically be a revenge moment, but Nimdok's crimes against humanity were so horrible that it became glorious.
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*** Finally, the Superego (the part most obsessed with self preservation) is defeated by the Totem of Clarity, driving him to suicide by the revelation that no matter what he does, he will eventually break down and rust into nothingness.
* Nimdok made a device that showed someone their true self free of bias and showed it to Hitler. What he saw drove him to suicide. Just the idea of one of the most evil men in history seeing just how much of a monster they are and having a VillainousBreakdown is pure awesome.
* Nimdok made a device that showed someone their true self free of bias and showed it to Hitler. What he saw drove him to suicide. Just the idea of one of the most evil men in history seeing just how much of a monster they are and having a VillainousBreakdown is pure awesome.
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*** Finally, the Superego (the part most obsessed with self preservation) is defeated by the Totem of Clarity, driving him to suicide by the revelation that no matter what he does, he will eventually break down and rust into nothingness.
* Nimdok made a device that showed someone their true self free of bias and showed it to Hitler. What he saw drove him to suicide. Just the idea of one of the most evil men in history seeing just how much of a monster they are and having a VillainousBreakdown is pure awesome.nothingness.
* Nimdok made a device that showed someone their true self free of bias and showed it to Hitler. What he saw drove him to suicide. Just the idea of one of the most evil men in history seeing just how much of a monster they are and having a VillainousBreakdown is pure awesome.
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* Nimdok made a device that showed someone their true self free of bias and showed it to Hitler. What he saw drove him to suicide. Just the idea of one of the most evil men in history seeing just how much of a monster they are and having a VillanousBreakdown is pure awesome.
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* Nimdok made a device that showed someone their true self free of bias and showed it to Hitler. What he saw drove him to suicide. Just the idea of one of the most evil men in history seeing just how much of a monster they are and having a VillanousBreakdown VillainousBreakdown is pure awesome.
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* Nimdok made a device that showed someone their true self free of bias and showed it to Hitler. What he saw drove him to suicide. Just the idea of one of the most evil men in history seeing just how much of a monster they are and having a VillanousBreakdown is pure awesome.
* A meta one: Harlan Ellison's voice acting for AM. He '''really''' nailed AM's [[AxCrazy personality]] in an epic, hammy portrayal, and is clearly enjoying doing it too.
* A meta one: Harlan Ellison's voice acting for AM. He '''really''' nailed AM's [[AxCrazy personality]] in an epic, hammy portrayal, and is clearly enjoying doing it too.
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* Nimdok made a device that showed someone their true self free of bias and showed it to Hitler. What he saw drove him to suicide. Just the idea of one of the most evil men in history seeing just how much of a monster they are and having a VillanousBreakdown is pure awesome. \n* A meta one: Harlan Ellison's voice acting for AM. He '''really''' nailed AM's [[AxCrazy personality]] in an epic, hammy portrayal, and is clearly enjoying doing it too.
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* Nimdok made a device that showed someone their true self free of bias and showed it to Hitler. What he saw drove him to suicide. Just the idea of one of the most evil men in history seeing just how much of a monster they are and having a VillanousBreakdown is pure awesome.
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*** The Ego (the most logical part of AM) is defeated through the Totem of Forgiveness, basically forgiving AM for what he did; causing him to short out from trying to fathom why they would ever forgive him for all he's done to them.
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*** The Ego (the most logical part of AM) is defeated through the Totem of Forgiveness, basically forgiving AM for what he did; causing him to short out from trying to fathom why they would ever forgive him for all he's done to them. (Seeing how the Ego's main job is acting based on a database of all humanity's recorded violent crimes throughout history, this part of AM's being is probably entirely bound up in the concepts of rage, escalation, retaliation, and revenge. It makes sense that being confronted with the idea that is possible let go of one's anger and answer a transgression with forgiveness and de-escalation instead of more violence are so completely alien ideas to him that [[EvilCannotComprehendGood he simply cannot fathom them]].)
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*** The Id (the part most obsessed with torturing the survivors) is defeated with the totem of compassion, showing you empathize with him and removing his will to live (seeing as that part of AM existed trough his hatred).
*** The Ego (the most logical part of AM) is defeated through the totem of forgiveness, basically forgiving AM for what he did; causing him to short out from trying to fathom why they would ever forgive him for all he's done to them.
*** Finally, the Superego (the part most obsessed with self preservation) is defeated by the totem of clarity, driving him to suicide by the revelation that no matter what he does, he will eventually break down and rust into nothingness.
*** The Ego (the most logical part of AM) is defeated through the totem of forgiveness, basically forgiving AM for what he did; causing him to short out from trying to fathom why they would ever forgive him for all he's done to them.
*** Finally, the Superego (the part most obsessed with self preservation) is defeated by the totem of clarity, driving him to suicide by the revelation that no matter what he does, he will eventually break down and rust into nothingness.
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*** The Id (the part most obsessed with torturing the survivors) is defeated with the totem Totem of compassion, Compassion, showing you empathize with him and removing his will to live (seeing as that part of AM existed trough his hatred).
*** The Ego (the most logical part of AM) is defeated through thetotem Totem of forgiveness, Forgiveness, basically forgiving AM for what he did; causing him to short out from trying to fathom why they would ever forgive him for all he's done to them.
*** Finally, the Superego (the part most obsessed with self preservation) is defeated by thetotem Totem of clarity, Clarity, driving him to suicide by the revelation that no matter what he does, he will eventually break down and rust into nothingness.
*** The Ego (the most logical part of AM) is defeated through the
*** Finally, the Superego (the part most obsessed with self preservation) is defeated by the
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*** The id (the part most obsessed with torturing the survivors) is defeated with the totem of compassion, showing you empathize with him and removing his will to live (seeing as that part of AM existed trough his hatred).
*** The ego (the most logical part of AM) is defeated through the totem of forgiveness, basically forgiving AM for what he did; causing him to short out from trying to fathom why they would ever forgive him for all he's done to them.
*** Finally, the superego (the part most obsessed with self preservation) is defeated by the totem of clarity, driving him to suicide by the revelation that no matter what he does, he will eventually break down and rust into nothingness.
*** The ego (the most logical part of AM) is defeated through the totem of forgiveness, basically forgiving AM for what he did; causing him to short out from trying to fathom why they would ever forgive him for all he's done to them.
*** Finally, the superego (the part most obsessed with self preservation) is defeated by the totem of clarity, driving him to suicide by the revelation that no matter what he does, he will eventually break down and rust into nothingness.
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*** The id Id (the part most obsessed with torturing the survivors) is defeated with the totem of compassion, showing you empathize with him and removing his will to live (seeing as that part of AM existed trough his hatred).
*** Theego Ego (the most logical part of AM) is defeated through the totem of forgiveness, basically forgiving AM for what he did; causing him to short out from trying to fathom why they would ever forgive him for all he's done to them.
*** Finally, thesuperego Superego (the part most obsessed with self preservation) is defeated by the totem of clarity, driving him to suicide by the revelation that no matter what he does, he will eventually break down and rust into nothingness.
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* Ted managed to win against AM by doing the one thing the AI would have never expected: Killing the other survivors in a way that AM cannot bring them back. While this goes badly for Ted, it is an undeniable victory, and the severity of Ted's punishment shows not only just how badly he has hurt the AI, but also how much the AI fears what would happen if Ted was ever given any kind of ability to move or act in a meaningful way again.
** Moreover, in his current state, all Ted can do is suffer from the pain of his punishment, leaving the AI to only watch his victim's fate in boredom, as it cannot construct mind games, physical or psychological tortures, or any of its other prior methods of torment that it once had used for fear that Ted will take any opportunity allowed to him to end himself. AM has been denied the one pleasure it had in its existence, the one distraction with which it could while away its existence, and can only count the seconds as they pass... forever.
* Ted managed to win against AM by doing the one thing the AI would have never expected: Killing the other survivors in a way that AM cannot bring them back. While this goes badly for Ted, it is an undeniable victory, and the severity of Ted's punishment shows not only just how badly he has hurt the AI, but also how much the AI fears what would happen if Ted was ever given any kind of ability to move or act in a meaningful way again.
** Moreover, in his current state, all Ted can do is suffer from the pain of his punishment, leaving the AI to only watch his victim's fate in boredom, as it cannot construct mind games, physical or psychological tortures, or any of its other prior methods of torment that it once had used for fear that Ted will take any opportunity allowed to him to end himself. AM has been denied the one pleasure it had in its existence, the one distraction with which it could while away its existence, and can only count the seconds as they pass... forever.
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* In Ellen's scenario, she is confronted by the image of the yellow-clothed rapist who assaulted her in the elevator. However, you can choose to fight back. Sure, the animation may be {{Narm}}y to some extent, but that's offset by the fact that she's ''beating the shit out of the man who raped her''.
--> '''Ellen:''' [[SassyBlackWoman Don't count on it, you muthuh!]] ''[smacks him across the face with the cup until he crumples back into a pile of clothes]''
--> '''Ellen:''' [[SassyBlackWoman Don't count on it, you muthuh!]] ''[smacks him across the face with the cup until he crumples back into a pile of clothes]''
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* Minor one, but instead of being scared when AM calls for him in the game's intro, Nimdok simply scowl back.
* Unlike the novel, you can actually shut down AM. Let that sink in for a minute: for over a century, an omnipotent AI has been tormenting you in every way imaginable. Now you have a chance to end him once and for all.
* Unlike the novel, you can actually shut down AM. Let that sink in for a minute: for over a century, an omnipotent AI has been tormenting you in every way imaginable. Now you have a chance to end him once and for all.
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* Minor one, but instead of being scared when AM calls for him in the game's intro, Nimdok simply scowl scowls back.
* Unlike the novel, you can actually shut down AM. Let that sink in for a minute: for over a century, an omnipotent AI has been tormenting you in every way imaginable. [[KarmaHoudiniWarranty Now you have a chance to end him once and for all.]]
* Unlike the novel, you can actually shut down AM. Let that sink in for a minute: for over a century, an omnipotent AI has been tormenting you in every way imaginable. [[KarmaHoudiniWarranty Now you have a chance to end him once and for all.]]
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* A meta one: Harlan Ellison's voice acting for AM. He '''really''' nailed AM's [[Ax-Crazy|personality]] in an epic, hammy portrayal, and is clearly enjoying doing it too.
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* A meta one: Harlan Ellison's voice acting for AM. He '''really''' nailed AM's [[Ax-Crazy|personality]] [[AxCrazy personality]] in an epic, hammy portrayal, and is clearly enjoying doing it too.
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* A meta one: Harlan Ellison's voice for AM. He '''really''' nailed AM's [[Sadist|personality]] in an epic, hammy portrayal.
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*** Finally, the superego (the part most obsessed with self preservation) is defeated by the totem of clarity, driving him to suicide by the revelation that no matter what he does, he will eventually break down and rust into nothingness.nothingness.
* A meta one: Harlan Ellison's voice for AM. He '''really''' nailed AM's [[Sadist|personality]] in an epic, hammy portrayal.
* A meta one: Harlan Ellison's voice for AM. He '''really''' nailed AM's [[Sadist|personality]] in an epic, hammy portrayal.
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* Minor one, but instead of being scared when AM calls for him in the game's intro, Nimdok simply scowl back.
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* Unlike the novel, you can actually shutdown AM. Let that sink in for a minute: for over a century, an omnipotent ai has been tormenting you in every way imaginable. Now you have a chance to end him once and for all.
** Just the way you do it is awesome. You do it by shutting down the three parts of his mind by throwing logic bombs at them.
** Just the way you do it is awesome. You do it by shutting down the three parts of his mind by throwing logic bombs at them.
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*** You take out the The id (the part most obsessed with torturing the survivors) is defeated with the totem of compassion, showing you empathize with him and removing his will to live (seeing as that part of AM existed trough his hatred).
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*** Finally, the superego
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*** The ego (the most logical part of AM) is defeated through the
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