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* Maegor the Cruel's reign ended when he was found eviscerated on the Iron Throne. Westeros's response was essentially to shrug, clean the blood off, crown his nephew Jaeharys, and privately thank whoever they thought did it.

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* Maegor the Cruel's reign ended when he was found eviscerated on the Iron Throne. Westeros's response was essentially to shrug, clean the blood off, crown his nephew Jaeharys, and privately thank whoever they thought did it. The simple reason being you do not get the name 'The Cruel' without being the sort of person that no one would miss.
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* After Euron Greyjoy conquers the castle of House Hewett in ''Literature/AFeastForCrows'', Falia Flowers laughs to see her trueborn half-sisters degraded and raped in front of their parents. Not too long afterwards, she herself is the victim of Euron's cruelty: she has her tongue cut out and is stripped naked and strapped to the figurehead of the Silence, left to die of exposure and starvation. And for most people, nothing much of value was lost (except for her unborn child: mind you, with the likely alternative of "getting born, getting your tongue ripped out and then serving your own dad as pretty much a galley slave for the rest of your tortured life" on the cards if born a boy and "we don't want to know" if a girl...). Sure, you can feel a little sorry for the shit her father and [[WickedStepmother stepmother]] pulled on her that [[BrokenBird allowed her to become easily groomed]] by [[EvilIsSexy Euron]] "So Not Prince Charming" [[DevilInPlainSight Greyjoy]] into considering the horribly squicky retribution something that became a possibility, but... still. DisproportionateRetribution is disproportionate, broken, and groomed... or not.

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* After Euron Greyjoy conquers the castle of House Hewett in ''Literature/AFeastForCrows'', Falia Flowers laughs to see her trueborn half-sisters degraded and raped in front of their parents. Not too long afterwards, she herself is the victim of Euron's cruelty: she has her tongue cut out and is stripped naked and strapped to the figurehead of the Silence, left to die of exposure and starvation. And for most people, nothing much of value was lost (except for her unborn child: mind you, with the likely alternative of "getting born, getting your tongue ripped out and then serving your own dad as pretty much a galley slave for the rest of your tortured life" on the cards if born a boy and "we don't want to know" if a girl...). Sure, you can feel a little sorry for the shit her father and [[WickedStepmother stepmother]] pulled on her that [[BrokenBird allowed her to become easily groomed]] by [[EvilIsSexy Euron]] Euron "So Not Prince Charming" [[DevilInPlainSight Greyjoy]] into considering the horribly squicky retribution something that became a possibility, but... still. DisproportionateRetribution is disproportionate, broken, and groomed... or not.
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* Viserys Targaryen spent much of his backstory psychologically (and it's implied, physically) abusing his sister Daenerys during their exile. When Dany marries Khal Drogo and journeys with him to the Dothraki Sea, Viserys spends all of his time complaining and making threats against everyone for not getting what he wanted immediately, eventually being humiliated by Drogo in front of his ''khalasar''. This led to him getting himself drunk and [[BullyingADragon threatening Daenerys's unborn child in front of Drogo]] as yet another threat to do what he wanted. Drogo responded by dumping a pot of molten gold on him, and it is described in all of its grisly glory.
* Ramsay brutally tortures Theon, turning him into TheWoobie. Regardless, Theon ''did'' a lot of awful stuff upon taking Winterfell. Including (but not restricted to) allowing two children to be killed to both try to cover his own ass and intimidate everybody into backing down when the Stark children actually escaped. Worse, these weren't two random boys; he actually knew them both, because he regularly *cough* visited *cough* their mother at their home, and he knew they were about the right ages to pass. [[MamasBabyPapasMaybe Do some of the mathematics that Theon shys away from thinking about]], particularly for the younger one...

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* Viserys Targaryen spent much of his backstory psychologically (and it's implied, physically) abusing his sister Daenerys during their exile. When Dany marries Khal Drogo and journeys with him to the Dothraki Sea, Viserys spends all of his time complaining and making threats against everyone for not getting what he wanted immediately, eventually being humiliated by Drogo in front of his ''khalasar''. This led to him getting himself drunk and [[BullyingADragon threatening Daenerys's unborn child in front of Drogo]] as yet another threat to do what he wanted. Drogo responded responds by dumping a pot of molten gold on him, and it is described in all of its grisly glory.
* Ramsay brutally tortures Theon, turning him into TheWoobie. Regardless, Theon ''did'' a lot of awful stuff upon taking Winterfell. Including (but not restricted to) allowing two children to be killed to both try to cover his own ass and intimidate everybody into backing down when the Stark children actually escaped. Worse, these weren't two random boys; he actually knew them both, because he regularly *cough* visited *cough* their mother at their home, and he knew they were about the right ages to pass. [[MamasBabyPapasMaybe Do some of the mathematics that Theon shys shies away from thinking about]], particularly for the younger one...



** [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale Lysa had also raped Petyr at least once]] (he was drunk after being rejected by Catelyn, and even [[WrongNameOutburst called Lysa "Cat" while they were having sex]]), and possibly twice (after Petyr had been [[DudeShesLikeInAComa gravely wounded]], possibly [[QuestionableConsent compromising his ability to knowingly consent]]), making her even more unlikeable.

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** [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale Lysa had also raped Petyr at least once]] (he was drunk after being rejected by Catelyn, Catelyn and even [[WrongNameOutburst called Lysa "Cat" while they were having sex]]), and possibly twice (after Petyr had been [[DudeShesLikeInAComa gravely wounded]], possibly [[QuestionableConsent compromising his ability to knowingly consent]]), making her even more unlikeable.



* [[SociopathicSoldier The Mountain's Men]], such as [[TortureTechnician the Tickler]], [[EvilOldFolks Chiswyck]], who laughingly talks of how he, some of the other men, and the Mountain gang raped a girl, and [[{{Sadist}} Raff]] [[FauxAffablyEvil the Sweetling]].
* Another of the Lannisters Knights Ser Amory Lorch, basically a miniature Mountain who also engages in RapePillageAndBurn across the Riverlands, even attacking a group of the [[TeamSwitzerland Night's Watch]], who are sworn to take no part in the conflicts of the realm, as well as having stabbed the four-year old Princess Rhaenys dead in a manner [[EvenEvilHasStandards even Tywin found unnecessarily brutal]]. He ends up getting [[ExitPursuedByABear thrown to a bear]] by the Brave Companions.
* Similar to the Mountain's Men, the Brave Companions, a [[PsychoForHire particularly vile sellsword company]], nicknamed the [[MonsterClown Bloody Mummers]], where every member shows themselves to be utterly evil, however, they are getting picked off as they are hunted down for their war crimes. Their leader Vargo Hoat is an AxCrazy {{Sadist}} who enjoys cutting off limbs, and [[DeathByIrony ends up having pieces cut off over days]] by the Mountain. One of the nastiest appears to be Rorge, a pedophile rapist who takes part in [[RapePillageAndBurn the Sack of Saltpans]], where a town's population is massacred and raped by a group of the Mummers. He ends up being killed by Brienne when he threatens a group of war orphans, ironic for a HeManWomanHater.
* Balon Greyjoy, the brutal ruler of the Iron Islands who has a culture of cruel piracy, attacks the North when its ruler Robb Stark offers an alliance with him and sends back his only surviving son Theon. Balon shows no affection to the son who he hadn't seen in nine years and acts horribly towards him, thinking him too weak to inherit rule. Balon ends up falling from a bridge during a storm, though it is widely believed the nastiest of the Greyjoy brothers [[EvilOverlord Euron]] [[EvilVersusEvil may have been]] [[CainAndAbel responsible]].
* Renly Baratheon, who gives off the image of TheGoodKing, but seems a {{Deconstruction}} of it, showing himself to be more TheEvilPrince, being vain and mockingly unpleasant to unattractive people such as the [[UndyingLoyalty loyal]] but unattractive woman Brienne of Tarth and his disfigured niece Shireen Baratheon, and trying to usurp the Iron Throne after his eldest brother's death basically just because he is arrogant and can put on a [[VillainWithGoodPublicity good image]]. It's even implied Renly may be aware of the illegitimacy of the Queen's children, meaning he knows his brother Stannis is the rightful heir. When Stannis offers to make an alliance with him, saying he'll make him his heir until he has a son (which is unlikely meaning Renly will probably become King anyway), along with letting him keep his positions as Lord of Storm's End and Master of Laws on the Small Council, Renly sneeringly mocks Stannis for not being as charismatic and insults Stannis' daughter because of her unattractive appearance, basically saying he'll take the throne as [[MightMakesRight he has the bigger army]], talking of [[CainAndAbel killing Stannis while showing little remorse]]. He ends up getting murdered the night before the battle by a shadow assassin birthed by his brother's sorceress Melisandre.

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* [[SociopathicSoldier The Mountain's Men]], such as [[TortureTechnician the Tickler]], [[EvilOldFolks Chiswyck]], who laughingly talks of how he, some of the other men, and the The Mountain gang raped gang-raped a girl, and [[{{Sadist}} Raff]] [[FauxAffablyEvil the Sweetling]].
* Another of the Lannisters Knights Ser Amory Lorch, basically a miniature Mountain who also engages in RapePillageAndBurn across the Riverlands, even attacking a group of the [[TeamSwitzerland Night's Watch]], who are sworn to take no part in the conflicts of the realm, as well as having stabbed the four-year old four-year-old Princess Rhaenys dead in a manner [[EvenEvilHasStandards even Tywin found unnecessarily brutal]]. He ends up getting [[ExitPursuedByABear thrown to a bear]] by the Brave Companions.
* Similar to the The Mountain's Men, the The Brave Companions, a [[PsychoForHire particularly vile sellsword company]], nicknamed the [[MonsterClown Bloody Mummers]], where every member shows themselves to be utterly evil, however, they are getting picked off as they are hunted down for their war crimes. Their leader Vargo Hoat is an AxCrazy {{Sadist}} who enjoys cutting off limbs, and [[DeathByIrony ends up having pieces cut off over days]] by the Mountain. One of the nastiest appears to be Rorge, a pedophile rapist who takes part in [[RapePillageAndBurn the Sack of Saltpans]], where a town's population is massacred and raped by a group of the Mummers. He ends up being killed by Brienne when he threatens a group of war orphans, ironic for a HeManWomanHater.
* Balon Greyjoy, the brutal ruler of the Iron Islands who has a culture of cruel piracy, attacks the North when its ruler Robb Stark offers an alliance with him and sends back his only surviving son Theon. Balon shows no affection to the son who whom he hadn't hasn't seen in nine years and acts horribly towards him, thinking him too weak to inherit rule. Balon ends up falling from a bridge during a storm, though it is widely believed the nastiest of the Greyjoy brothers [[EvilOverlord Euron]] [[EvilVersusEvil may have been]] [[CainAndAbel responsible]].
* Renly Baratheon, who gives off the image of TheGoodKing, but seems a {{Deconstruction}} of it, showing himself to be more TheEvilPrince, being vain and mockingly unpleasant to unattractive people such as the [[UndyingLoyalty loyal]] but unattractive woman Brienne of Tarth and his disfigured niece Shireen Baratheon, and trying to usurp the Iron Throne after his eldest brother's death basically just because he is arrogant and can put on a [[VillainWithGoodPublicity good image]]. It's even implied that Renly may be aware of the illegitimacy of the Queen's children, meaning he knows his brother Stannis is the rightful heir. When Stannis offers to make an alliance with him, saying he'll make him his heir until he has a son (which is unlikely meaning Renly will probably become King anyway), along with letting him keep his positions as Lord of Storm's End and Master of Laws on the Small Council, Renly sneeringly mocks Stannis for not being as charismatic and insults Stannis' Stannis's daughter because of her unattractive appearance, basically saying he'll take the throne throne, as [[MightMakesRight he has the bigger army]], talking of [[CainAndAbel killing Stannis while showing little remorse]]. He ends up getting murdered the night before the battle by a shadow assassin birthed by his brother's sorceress Melisandre.



* After Euron Greyjoy conquers the castle of House Hewett in ''Literature/AFeastForCrows'', Falia Flowers laughs to see her trueborn half-sisters degraded and raped in front of their parents. Not too long afterwards she herself is the victim of Euron's cruelty: she has her tongue cut out and is stripped naked and strapped to the figurehead of the Silence, left to die of exposure and starvation. And for most people, nothing much of value was lost (except for her unborn child: mind you, with the likely alternative of "getting born, getting your tongue ripped out and then serving your own dad as pretty much a galley slave for the rest of your tortured life" on the cards if born a boy and "we don't want to know" if a girl...). Sure, you can feel a little sorry for the shit her father and [[WickedStepmother stepmother]] pulled on her that [[BrokenBird allowed her to become easily groomed]] by [[EvilIsSexy Euron]] "So Not Prince Charming" [[DevilInPlainSight Greyjoy]] into considering the horribly squicky retribution something that became a possibility, but... still. DisproportionateRetribution is disproportionate, broken, and groomed... or not.
* Almost every Frey killed that we've seen has been an asshole in some way. Little Walder bullied Bran and Rickon, and was later killed by someone during ''Dance'' (possibly by his cousin Big Walder, who is actually one of the most likeable Freys); Petyr and Merrett Frey, who participated in the Red Wedding, are captured and hung by Lady Stoneheart and the Brotherhood Without Banners at the end of ''Storm''; Rhaegar, Jared, and Symond Frey belittle Davos Seaworth and feed the lie about how the Starks were all shapeshifting wargs and the Red Wedding was all a misunderstanding, and they are killed and cooked into meat pies that Lord Wyman Manderly feeds to the guests of Ramsay Bolton's and "Arya Stark"'s wedding in ''Dance''; and Aenys Frey, who is no shortage of abusive to everyone who looks down on them for the Red Wedding, is caught in a trap by Mors Umber and is slain in a POV preview chapter from ''Winds''.

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* After Euron Greyjoy conquers the castle of House Hewett in ''Literature/AFeastForCrows'', Falia Flowers laughs to see her trueborn half-sisters degraded and raped in front of their parents. Not too long afterwards afterwards, she herself is the victim of Euron's cruelty: she has her tongue cut out and is stripped naked and strapped to the figurehead of the Silence, left to die of exposure and starvation. And for most people, nothing much of value was lost (except for her unborn child: mind you, with the likely alternative of "getting born, getting your tongue ripped out and then serving your own dad as pretty much a galley slave for the rest of your tortured life" on the cards if born a boy and "we don't want to know" if a girl...). Sure, you can feel a little sorry for the shit her father and [[WickedStepmother stepmother]] pulled on her that [[BrokenBird allowed her to become easily groomed]] by [[EvilIsSexy Euron]] "So Not Prince Charming" [[DevilInPlainSight Greyjoy]] into considering the horribly squicky retribution something that became a possibility, but... still. DisproportionateRetribution is disproportionate, broken, and groomed... or not.
* Almost every Frey killed that we've seen has been an asshole in some way. Little Walder bullied bullies Bran and Rickon, Rickon and was is later killed by someone during ''Dance'' (possibly by his cousin Big Walder, who is actually one of the most likeable Freys); Petyr and Merrett Frey, who participated in the Red Wedding, are captured and hung by Lady Stoneheart and the Brotherhood Without Banners at the end of ''Storm''; Rhaegar, Jared, and Symond Frey belittle Davos Seaworth and feed the lie about how the Starks were all shapeshifting wargs and the Red Wedding was all a misunderstanding, and they are killed and cooked into meat pies that Lord Wyman Manderly feeds to the guests of Ramsay Bolton's and "Arya Stark"'s wedding in ''Dance''; and Aenys Frey, who is no shortage of abusive to everyone who looks down on them for the Red Wedding, is caught in a trap by Mors Umber and is slain in a POV preview chapter from ''Winds''.



* Speaking of, there's Aegon II himself. The man was shown to be lazy, gluttonous, serially unfaithful, [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking a crap father]], and tried to usurp the throne from his sister. He succeeded (after having her eaten in front of her own son), but insisted on continuing the war this had started and was finally murdered by his own court when he not only refused to give in, but was about to start cutting his nephew into pieces to try and make them back off. Even Cregan Stark, who held the trials judging those he felt were the murderers, was less outraged over the murder of Aegon the ''person'' as much as the murder of Aegon ''the king''.

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* Speaking of, there's Aegon II himself. The man was shown to be lazy, gluttonous, serially unfaithful, [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking a crap father]], and tried to usurp the throne from his sister. He succeeded (after having her eaten in front of her own son), but insisted on continuing the war this had started and was finally murdered by his own court when he not only refused to give in, in but was about to start cutting his nephew into pieces to try and make them back off. Even Cregan Stark, who held the trials judging those he felt were the murderers, was less outraged over the murder of Aegon the ''person'' as much as the murder of Aegon ''the king''.
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* For all the crap Jaime gets for being a kingslayer, the king in question ''really'' had it coming. Aerys II "[[TheCaligula The Mad]]" Targaryen had repeatedly abused Jaime's family, forced him to become a Kingsguard purely to spite Tywin, and forced him to stand by as he attempted to surpass Maegor "The Cruel" and Aegon IV "The Unworthy" as the Worst Targaryen Ever. The straw that broke the camel's back was Jaime finding out that Aerys intended to fantasy-nuke King's Landing to spite rebel forces (who were rebelling against him because he was such a gigantic prick).


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* Maegor the Cruel's reign ended when he was found eviscerated on the Iron Throne. Westeros's response was essentially to shrug, clean the blood off, crown his nephew Jaeharys, and privately thank whoever they thought did it.
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* Speaking of, there's Aegon II himself. The man was shown to be lazy, gluttonous, serially unfaithful, [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking a crap father]], and tried to usurp the throne from his sister. He succeeded (after having her eaten in front of her own son), but insisted on continuing the war this had started and was finally murdered by his own court when he not only refused to give in, but was about to start cutting his nephew into pieces to try and make them back off. Even Cregan Stark, who held the trials judging those he felt were the murderers, was less outraged over the murder of Aegon the ''person'' as much as the murder of Aegon ''the king''.
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* Viserys Targaryen spent much of his backstory psychologically (and it's implied, physically) abusing his sister Daenerys during their exile. When Dany marries Khal Drogo and journeys with him to the Dothraki Sea, Viserys spends all of his time complaining and making threats against everyone for not getting what he wanted immediately, eventually being humiliated by Drogo in front of his ''khalasar''. This led to him getting himself drunk and [[BullyingADragon threatening Daenerys' unborn child in front of Drogo]] as yet another threat to do what he wanted. Drogo responded by dumping a pot of molten gold on him, and it is described in all of its grisly glory.

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* Viserys Targaryen spent much of his backstory psychologically (and it's implied, physically) abusing his sister Daenerys during their exile. When Dany marries Khal Drogo and journeys with him to the Dothraki Sea, Viserys spends all of his time complaining and making threats against everyone for not getting what he wanted immediately, eventually being humiliated by Drogo in front of his ''khalasar''. This led to him getting himself drunk and [[BullyingADragon threatening Daenerys' Daenerys's unborn child in front of Drogo]] as yet another threat to do what he wanted. Drogo responded by dumping a pot of molten gold on him, and it is described in all of its grisly glory.



* In ''Literature/AStormOfSwords'', Craster is killed in a mutiny when the starving men of the Night's Watch believe he's hoarding food and not sharing enough with them. Whether or not that's true or a sufficient reason to kill him, readers aren't likely to care, given Craster's penchant for raping his daughters and killing his infant sons.

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* In ''Literature/AStormOfSwords'', Craster is killed in a mutiny when the starving men of the The Night's Watch believe he's hoarding food and not sharing enough with them. Whether or not that's true or a sufficient reason to kill him, readers aren't likely to care, given Craster's penchant for raping his daughters and killing his infant sons.



* Tyrion Lannister killing his father Tywin at the end of ''Literature/AStormOfSwords''. Tywin had it coming in general. The ''specific'' thing that sent Tyrion after him? Orchestrating the gang-rape of Tyrion's first wife, just because she was a commoner.
* The Brotherhood without Banners' victims were generally this, the Brotherhood having their mission to protect the smallfolk who were being worst hit by the war and punish those who oppressed them. However, after their original leader Beric Dondarrion dies, they are taken over by Lady Stoneheart, and though their victims generally have it coming, their attempt to hang the honorable and kind-hearted Brienne shows their changing motivations...

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* Tyrion Lannister killing his father Tywin at the end of ''Literature/AStormOfSwords''. Tywin had it coming in general. The ''specific'' thing that sent Tyrion after him? Orchestrating the gang-rape of Tyrion's first wife, wife just because she was a commoner.
* The Brotherhood without Banners' victims were generally this, the The Brotherhood having their mission to protect the smallfolk who were being worst hit by the war and punish those who oppressed them. However, after their original leader Beric Dondarrion dies, they are taken over by Lady Stoneheart, and though their victims generally have it coming, their attempt to hang the honorable and kind-hearted Brienne shows their changing motivations...



* The fate of Ser Gregor Clegane, a.k.a. [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast The Mountain that Rides]], at the hands of Oberyn Martell is absolutely horrific, with his agony lasting for weeks. It is also an extremely fitting one for a mass-murdering rapist and monster who did nothing in his life but spread untold cruelty, misery and death, including raping and murdering Oberyn Martell's sister. [[BackFromTheDead Or is he dead...]]

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* The fate of Ser Gregor Clegane, a.k.a. [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast The Mountain that Rides]], at the hands of Oberyn Martell is absolutely horrific, with his agony lasting for weeks. It is also an extremely fitting one for a mass-murdering rapist and monster who did nothing in his life but spread untold cruelty, misery misery, and death, including raping and murdering Oberyn Martell's sister. [[BackFromTheDead Or is he dead...]]



* Similar to the Mountain's Men, the Brave Companions, a [[PsychoForHire particularly vile sellsword company]], nicknamed the [[MonsterClown Bloody Mummers]], where every member shows themselves to be utterly evil, however they are getting picked off as they are hunted down for their war crimes. Their leader Vargo Hoat is an AxCrazy {{Sadist}} who enjoys cutting off limbs, and [[DeathByIrony ends up having pieces cut off over days]] by the Mountain. One of the nastiest appears to be Rorge, a pedophile rapist who takes part in [[RapePillageAndBurn the Sack of Saltpans]], where a town's population is massacred and raped by a group of the Mummers. He ends up being killed by Brienne when he threatens a group of war orphans, ironic for a HeManWomanHater.
* Balon Greyjoy, the brutal ruler of the Iron Islands who have a culture of cruel piracy, attacks the North when its ruler Robb Stark offers an alliance with him and sends back his only surviving son Theon. Balon shows no affection to the son who he hadn't seen in nine years and acts horribly towards him, thinking him too weak to inherit rule. Balon ends up falling from a bridge during a storm, though it is widely believed the nastiest of the Greyjoy brothers [[EvilOverlord Euron]] [[EvilVersusEvil may have been]] [[CainAndAbel responsible]].

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* Similar to the Mountain's Men, the Brave Companions, a [[PsychoForHire particularly vile sellsword company]], nicknamed the [[MonsterClown Bloody Mummers]], where every member shows themselves to be utterly evil, however however, they are getting picked off as they are hunted down for their war crimes. Their leader Vargo Hoat is an AxCrazy {{Sadist}} who enjoys cutting off limbs, and [[DeathByIrony ends up having pieces cut off over days]] by the Mountain. One of the nastiest appears to be Rorge, a pedophile rapist who takes part in [[RapePillageAndBurn the Sack of Saltpans]], where a town's population is massacred and raped by a group of the Mummers. He ends up being killed by Brienne when he threatens a group of war orphans, ironic for a HeManWomanHater.
* Balon Greyjoy, the brutal ruler of the Iron Islands who have has a culture of cruel piracy, attacks the North when its ruler Robb Stark offers an alliance with him and sends back his only surviving son Theon. Balon shows no affection to the son who he hadn't seen in nine years and acts horribly towards him, thinking him too weak to inherit rule. Balon ends up falling from a bridge during a storm, though it is widely believed the nastiest of the Greyjoy brothers [[EvilOverlord Euron]] [[EvilVersusEvil may have been]] [[CainAndAbel responsible]].



* After Euron Greyjoy conquers the castle of House Hewett in ''Literature/AFeastForCrows'', Falia Flowers laughs to see her trueborn half-sisters degraded and raped in front of their parents. Not too long afterwards she herself is the victim of Euron's cruelty: she has her tongue cut out and is stripped naked and strapped to the figurehead of the Silence, left to die of exposure and starvation. And for most people, nothing much of value was lost (except for her unborn child: mind you, with the likely alternative of "getting born, getting your tongue ripped out and then serving your own dad as pretty much a galley slave for the rest of your tortured life" on the cards if born a boy and "we don't want to know" if a girl...). Sure, you can feel a little sorry for the shit her father and [[WickedStepmother stepmother]] pulled on her that [[BrokenBird allowed her to become easily groomed]] by [[EvilIsSexy Euron]] "So Not Prince Charming" [[DevilInPlainSight Greyjoy]] into considering the horribly squicky retribution something that became a possibility, but... still. DisproportionateRetribution is disproportionate, broken and groomed... or not.

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* After Euron Greyjoy conquers the castle of House Hewett in ''Literature/AFeastForCrows'', Falia Flowers laughs to see her trueborn half-sisters degraded and raped in front of their parents. Not too long afterwards she herself is the victim of Euron's cruelty: she has her tongue cut out and is stripped naked and strapped to the figurehead of the Silence, left to die of exposure and starvation. And for most people, nothing much of value was lost (except for her unborn child: mind you, with the likely alternative of "getting born, getting your tongue ripped out and then serving your own dad as pretty much a galley slave for the rest of your tortured life" on the cards if born a boy and "we don't want to know" if a girl...). Sure, you can feel a little sorry for the shit her father and [[WickedStepmother stepmother]] pulled on her that [[BrokenBird allowed her to become easily groomed]] by [[EvilIsSexy Euron]] "So Not Prince Charming" [[DevilInPlainSight Greyjoy]] into considering the horribly squicky retribution something that became a possibility, but... still. DisproportionateRetribution is disproportionate, broken broken, and groomed... or not.



* ''Literature/FireAndBlood'' has Criston Cole, the Kingmaker. Ordinarily a man being outnumbered, ambushed and told he's getting no chance of parlay before being turned into a HumanPincushion and posthumously decapitated would be bad... but he also helped start the Dance of the Dragons, dragging Westeros into a full blown civil war quite possibly out of sheer ''spite'', but even if he isn't, he was going against the express desire of his king to put Aegon II on the throne instead of Rhaenyra. He's also been shown to be a petty asshole, beating another man's lover to death quite possibly just to spite Rhaenyra again, and murdering the first man to speak out against Aegon's attempted usurpation.

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* ''Literature/FireAndBlood'' has Criston Cole, the Kingmaker. Ordinarily a man being outnumbered, ambushed and told he's getting no chance of parlay before being turned into a HumanPincushion and posthumously decapitated would be bad... but he also helped start the Dance of the Dragons, dragging Westeros into a full blown full-blown civil war quite possibly out of sheer ''spite'', but even if he isn't, he was going against the express desire of his king to put Aegon II on the throne instead of Rhaenyra. He's also been shown to be a petty asshole, beating another man's lover to death quite possibly just to spite Rhaenyra again, and murdering the first man to speak out against Aegon's attempted usurpation.
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* ''Literature/FireAndBlood'' has Criston Cole, the Kingmaker. Ordinarily a man being outnumbered, ambushed and told he's getting no chance of parlay before being turned into a HumanPincushion and posthumously decapitated would be bad... but he also helped start the Dance of the Dragons, dragging Westeros into a full blown civil war quite possibly out of sheer ''spite'', but even if he isn't, he was going against the express desire of his king to put Aegon II on the throne instead of Rhaenyra. He's also been shown to be a petty asshole, beating another man's lover to death quite possibly just to spite Rhaenyra again, and murdering the first man to speak out against Aegon's attempted usurpation.

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