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23rd Jun '16 5:25:24 AM Adept
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* ''Manga/FairyTail'': The series is infamous for laying the "friendship solves everything" moral rather thick. While ThePowerOfFriendship is common amongst shonen, ''Fairy Tail'' in particular earns scorn for frequently preaching its importance and rarely teaching anything else.

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* ''Manga/FairyTail'': The series is infamous for laying the "friendship solves everything" moral rather thick. While ThePowerOfFriendship is common amongst shonen, ''Fairy Tail'' in particular earns scorn for frequently preaching its importance and rarely teaching anything else.using the "friendship" speech to have the protagonist pull a HeroicSecondWind to suddenly beat an opponent that was just curb-stomping them moments ago.
20th Jun '16 11:19:55 AM fobarimperius
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** Kirby was not subtle in general with any of its messages. It tackled the topic of dentristry with the fact that you should brush well or else [[ItMakesSenseInContext little purple men will destroy your teeth from the inside of your mouth]], evil people pollute and destroy the ozone, industry causes acid rain and destroys plant life, its wrong to make a collectible toy line in which every figure doesn't have an equal chance of being found (and thus all would be the same value), television lies and sucks people's life away, illegal dumping is wrong, tourists destroy landmarks and towns, lying about historical accuracy is wrong, you should eat properly, and harpooning whales is evil. Any lesson it had became a focal point of the whole episode and usually was a major part of the entire narrative, the whale episode taking place entirely in the water and on a whale. Furthermore, King Dedede was the one who would cause these problems, making him the scapegoat for "Don't be like this guy" messages.
7th Jun '16 8:08:11 AM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* [[Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross Every]]. [[Anime/MacrossDoYouRememberLove Song]]. [[Anime/MacrossPlus In]]. [[BattleInterruptingShout Every]]. [[Anime/MacrossZero Macross]]. [[Anime/MacrossFrontier Title]]. If you still think ViolenceIsTheOnlyOption, then you're [[TalkingTheMonsterToDeath not paying attention.]]

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* [[Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross Every]]. [[Anime/MacrossDoYouRememberLove Song]]. [[Anime/MacrossPlus In]]. [[BattleInterruptingShout Every]]. [[Anime/MacrossZero Macross]].Single]]. ''Anime/{{Macross}}''. [[Anime/MacrossFrontier Title]]. If you still think ViolenceIsTheOnlyOption, then you're [[TalkingTheMonsterToDeath not paying attention.]]
28th Apr '16 3:55:22 PM nombretomado
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* ''Anime/EarthMaidenArjuna'' is the anime version of ''CaptainPlanet'' (see below), with the superhero replaced with a MagicalGirl as with more psychological angst.

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* ''Anime/EarthMaidenArjuna'' is the anime version of ''CaptainPlanet'' ''WesternAnimation/{{Captain Planet|and the Planeteers}}'' (see below), with the superhero replaced with a MagicalGirl as with more psychological angst.
20th Dec '15 5:57:14 PM WiseMan23753
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** So many examples: Angelise herself in the ''very first'' episode, Zola, Rosalie, Hilda, [[spoiler:Julio, Jill and finished with Embryo.]]

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** So many examples: Angelise herself in the ''very first'' episode, Zola, Rosalie, Hilda, [[spoiler:Julio, Jill Jill, the ''entire Mana society'' and finished with Embryo.]]
20th Dec '15 5:56:34 PM WiseMan23753
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* The most notable one is ''Anime/CrossAnge'', ''never ever'' mistreat anyone or anything, whether it's one person or an entire race, ''especially'' if it's ForTheEvulz, [[GreenEyedMonster jealousy]] or placing them as TheScapegoat. Otherwise, [[LaserGuidedKarma you're as good]] [[KarmicDeath as dead]] [[TheDogBitesBack by the same person or people.]]
** So many examples: Angelise herself in the ''very first'' episode, Zola, Rosalie, Hilda, [[spoiler:Julio, Jill and finished with Embryo.]]
14th Aug '15 8:43:18 PM wootzits
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* ''Anime/EarthMaidenArjuna'' is the anime version of ''CaptainPlanet'' (see below), with the superhero replaced with a MagicalGirl as with more psychological angst.

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* ''Anime/EarthMaidenArjuna'' ''Anime/AyakashiAyashi'' is the anime version of ''CaptainPlanet'' (see below), pretty unsubtle about telling people to stop daydreaming and focus exclusively on real life. It's about giant monsters coming to life when someone is dissatisfied with living in a CrapsackWorld.
* To sum up,
the superhero replaced with a MagicalGirl as with more psychological angst.writers of ''Anime/{{Blassreiter}}'' would like you to know that anyone who is mean to immigrants is pure evil, the media is full of idiot sensationalists, and if God is there He does not like you.



* ''Manga/DeathNote'' gives hints that having the power to kill humans (simply by knowing their name and face) is bad, though it only heavily goes the "It's really bad" route in the final stretch of the story.
* ''Anime/EarthMaidenArjuna'' is the anime version of ''CaptainPlanet'' (see below), with the superhero replaced with a MagicalGirl as with more psychological angst.
* ''Manga/FairyTail'': The series is infamous for laying the "friendship solves everything" moral rather thick. While ThePowerOfFriendship is common amongst shonen, ''Fairy Tail'' in particular earns scorn for frequently preaching its importance and rarely teaching anything else.



* In an episode of the ''VideoGame/{{Kirby}}'' [[Anime/KirbyOfTheStars anime]], Dedede gets addicted to snacks and becomes grossly fat, unable to even stand up. This is followed by two characters announcing out loud that this is what happens if you only eat snacks and stay up all night watching television and Dedede being paraded through the town, pointed and laughed at. All of this before the episode is even halfway through.
* The {{Aesoptinum}} factor of ''Anime/SoukouNoStrain'' is made particularly obvious when [[spoiler:not only is the research conducted on harmless aliens, but they look and act like little girls and anesthetic doesn't work on them. So every time one is dissected, they're being brutally tortured and the scientists just shrug and figure 'Hey, they'll get used to it eventually.']]

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* In an episode of the ''VideoGame/{{Kirby}}'' [[Anime/KirbyOfTheStars anime]], ''Anime/KirbyOfTheStars'', Dedede gets addicted to snacks and becomes grossly fat, unable to even stand up. This is followed by two characters announcing out loud that this is what happens if you only eat snacks and stay up all night watching television and Dedede being paraded through the town, pointed and laughed at. All of this before the episode is even halfway through.
* ''Manga/{{Life}}'' keeps no subtlety in any of its themes. The {{Aesoptinum}} factor of ''Anime/SoukouNoStrain'' whole manga is made particularly obvious when [[spoiler:not only about a girl who is the research conducted on harmless aliens, but they look and act like little girls and anesthetic doesn't work on them. So every time one is dissected, they're being brutally tortured bullied, and the scientists just shrug bullies themselves are two-faced [[{{JerkAss}} Jerkasses]].
* The author of ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' can't seem to be subtle about the whole "REVENGE IS BAD" thing, to the point that, until he kick-started the big war event, it took over the story. To make it worse, he seems to have equated revenge with a fully-justified desire to see someone punished for their crimes.
** Be loyal to your village no matter what you do because it means becoming a sociopathic monster
and figure 'Hey, they'll get used trying to have ambitions other than the welfare of the village is evil and must be punished.
** Which is turned into a BrokenAesop, as Shikamaru was portrayed as perfectly justified in seeking revenge against Hidan and Kakuzu. Even if you try to find some explanation for this, the fact that revenge is portrayed bad only for when the target is an [[JerkSue Uchiha]] means such anvilicous aesop is already broken anyway.
** By leaving someone in a state of continuous torture, until death... Convenient...
*** By planning to go missing-nin, which only didn't happen because Kakashi spoke up for him and his teammates. And
it eventually.']]would have resulted in the deaths of Chouji, Ino, and Kakashi against Kakuzu had Naruto not conveniently shown up with his new DangerousForbiddenTechnique.
* The [[GainaxEnding infamous final two episodes]] of ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'' are an {{Anvilicious}} AuthorFilibuster on the [[DysfunctionJunction rather extensive psychological issues]] of the main cast (particularly those of Shinji Ikari), as well as a discussion of how some people avoid human contact out of fear of being hurt by others. [[SarcasmMode Apparently we had not already seen enough of how screwed up the cast was]].



* To sum up, the writers of ''Anime/{{Blassreiter}}'' would like you to know that anyone who is mean to immigrants is pure evil, the media is full of idiot sensationalists, and if God is there He does not like you.
* The [[GainaxEnding infamous final two episodes]] of ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'' are an {{Anvilicious}} AuthorFilibuster on the [[DysfunctionJunction rather extensive psychological issues]] of the main cast (particularly those of Shinji Ikari), as well as a discussion of how some people avoid human contact out of fear of being hurt by others. [[SarcasmMode Apparently we had not already seen enough of how screwed up the cast was]].

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* To sum up, the writers of ''Anime/{{Blassreiter}}'' would like you to know that anyone who is mean to immigrants is pure evil, the media is full of idiot sensationalists, and if God is there He does not like you.
* The [[GainaxEnding infamous final two episodes]] {{Aesoptinum}} factor of ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'' are an {{Anvilicious}} AuthorFilibuster on ''Anime/StrainStrategicArmoredInfantry'' is made particularly obvious when [[spoiler:not only is the [[DysfunctionJunction rather extensive psychological issues]] of the main cast (particularly those of Shinji Ikari), as well as a discussion of how some people avoid human contact out of fear of research conducted on harmless aliens, but they look and act like little girls and anesthetic doesn't work on them. So every time one is dissected, they're being hurt by others. [[SarcasmMode Apparently we had brutally tortured and the scientists just shrug and figure 'Hey, they'll get used to it eventually.']]
* [[Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross Every]]. [[Anime/MacrossDoYouRememberLove Song]]. [[Anime/MacrossPlus In]]. [[BattleInterruptingShout Every]]. [[Anime/MacrossZero Macross]]. [[Anime/MacrossFrontier Title]]. If you still think ViolenceIsTheOnlyOption, then you're [[TalkingTheMonsterToDeath
not already seen enough of how screwed up the cast was]].paying attention.]]



* The author of ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' can't seem to be subtle about the whole "REVENGE IS BAD" thing, to the point that, until he kick-started the big war event, it took over the story. To make it worse, he seems to have equated revenge with a fully-justified desire to see someone punished for their crimes.
** Be loyal to your village no matter what you do because it means becoming a sociopathic monster and trying to have ambitions other than the welfare of the village is evil and must be punished.
** Which is turned into a BrokenAesop, as Shikamaru was portrayed as perfectly justified in seeking revenge against Hidan and Kakuzu. Even if you try to find some explanation for this, the fact that revenge is portrayed bad only for when the target is an [[JerkSue Uchiha]] means such anvilicous aesop is already broken anyway.
** By leaving someone in a state of continuous torture, until death... Convenient...
*** By planning to go missing-nin, which only didn't happen because Kakashi spoke up for him and his teammates. And it would have resulted in the deaths of Chouji, Ino, and Kakashi against Kakuzu had Naruto not conveniently shown up with his new DangerousForbiddenTechnique.
* ''Anime/AyakashiAyashi'' is pretty unsubtle about telling people to stop daydreaming and focus exclusively on real life. It's about giant monsters coming to life when someone is dissatisfied with living in a CrapsackWorld.
* [[Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross Every]]. [[Anime/MacrossDoYouRememberLove Song]]. [[Anime/MacrossPlus In]]. [[BattleInterruptingShout Every]]. [[Anime/MacrossZero Macross]]. [[Anime/MacrossFrontier Title]]. If you still think ViolenceIsTheOnlyOption, then you're [[TalkingTheMonsterToDeath not paying attention.]]
* ''Manga/{{Life}}'' keeps no subtlety in any of its themes. The whole manga is about a girl who is bullied, and the bullies themselves are two-faced [[{{JerkAss}} Jerkasses]].
* ''Manga/DeathNote'' gives hints that having the power to kill humans (simply by knowing their name and face) is bad, though it only heavily goes the "It's really bad" route in the final stretch of the story.
* ''Manga/FairyTail'': The series is infamous for laying the "friendship solves everything" moral rather thick. While ThePowerOfFriendship is common amongst shonen, ''Fairy Tail'' in particular earns scorn for frequently preaching its importance and rarely teaching anything else.
6th Aug '15 5:04:42 PM Announcerve
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* ''Manga/FairyTail'': The series is infamous for laying the "friendship solves everything" moral rather thick. While ThePowerOfFriendship is common amongst shonen, ''Fairy Tail'' in particular earns scorn for frequently preaching its importance and rarely teaching anything else.
19th Jun '15 8:49:51 PM wootzits
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* In ''LightNovel/ZeroNoTsukaima'', the episode in which [[spoiler:Mr. Colbert]] dies was a ''very'' thinly veiled message about why war is bad, the entire second season being about how WarIsHell.

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* In ''LightNovel/ZeroNoTsukaima'', ''LightNovel/TheFamiliarOfZero'', the episode in which [[spoiler:Mr. Colbert]] dies was a ''very'' thinly veiled message about why war is bad, the entire second season being about how WarIsHell.
30th Apr '15 6:31:37 AM Loekman3
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* [[Manga/{{Naruto}} Masashi Kishimoto]] can't seem to be subtle about the whole "REVENGE IS BAD" thing, to the point that, until he kick-started the big war event, it took over the story. To make it worse, he seems to have equated revenge with a fully-justified desire to see someone punished for their crimes.

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* [[Manga/{{Naruto}} Masashi Kishimoto]] The author of ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' can't seem to be subtle about the whole "REVENGE IS BAD" thing, to the point that, until he kick-started the big war event, it took over the story. To make it worse, he seems to have equated revenge with a fully-justified desire to see someone punished for their crimes.



** Which is turned into a BrokenAesop, as Shikamaru was portrayed as perfectly justified in seeking revenge against Hidan and Kakuzu.
*** Although, if one sees it in a different way, revenge was likely portrayed as bad because it drove Sasuke insane with it and caused him to [[FaceHeelTurn turn from friend to foe]] (to the extent that he became more than willing to kill even his own comrades) and, in Shikamaru's case, it is portrayed positively because it is more like justice being done, that, and Shikamaru didn't allow his desire for revenge to take over.

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** Which is turned into a BrokenAesop, as Shikamaru was portrayed as perfectly justified in seeking revenge against Hidan and Kakuzu.
*** Although,
Kakuzu. Even if one sees it in a different way, you try to find some explanation for this, the fact that revenge was likely portrayed as bad because it drove Sasuke insane with it and caused him to [[FaceHeelTurn turn from friend to foe]] (to the extent that he became more than willing to kill even his own comrades) and, in Shikamaru's case, it is portrayed positively because it is more like justice being done, that, and Shikamaru didn't allow his desire bad only for revenge to take over.when the target is an [[JerkSue Uchiha]] means such anvilicous aesop is already broken anyway.
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