History Analysis / ThunderCats2011

30th Jan '14 10:11:11 PM firejewel
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WilyKit and WilyKat are not quite what they seem. Though they immediately strike us as poor orphans living in the slums, who have had to steal to live all their lives, we eventually find out that they’re really just runaway farm children. Still, they seemed to have very quickly learned how to become great pick pockets and know what they’re doing. My guess is that they ran away from home a couple of months before the start of the series. Though they are very similar, Kit and Kat each develop their own unique personalities as the series progresses.

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WilyKit [=WilyKit=] and WilyKat [=WilyKat=] are not quite what they seem. Though they immediately strike us as poor orphans living in the slums, who have had to steal to live all their lives, we eventually find out that they’re really just runaway farm children. Still, they seemed to have very quickly learned how to become great pick pockets and know what they’re doing. My guess is that they ran away from home a couple of months before the start of the series. Though they are very similar, Kit and Kat each develop their own unique personalities as the series progresses.



Cheetara has the least character depth of the main cast, but she isn't devoid of it. We see from flashbacks that she was an orphan when she tried to join the Clerics, and claimed to have no where to go when she was denied. Cheetara must have been very desperate at that point. Her having no home or family could mean she had no one close to her. Cheetara did not want only a place and a purpose, but to be welcomed and loved by others. She believed she could prove her worth to the Clerics and Jaga with her skills. When Tygra showed his affection towards her, it left a very big impression on Cheetara, since he was likely one of the few people who had ever done so, cementing her attraction towards him in the present.

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Cheetara has the least character depth of the main cast, but she isn't devoid of it. We see from flashbacks that she was an orphan when she tried to join the Clerics, and claimed to have no where to go when she was denied. Cheetara must have been very desperate at that point. Her having no home or family could mean she had no one close to her. Cheetara did not want only wanted a place and a purpose, but to be welcomed and loved by others. She believed she could prove her worth to the Clerics and Jaga with her skills. When Tygra showed his affection towards her, it left a very big impression on Cheetara, since he was likely one of the few people who had ever done so, cementing her attraction towards him in the present.
8th Nov '13 7:02:37 AM Torchic65101
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Kit, like Lion-O, is an optimist, and holds on to hope as long as she can despite the odds. She believed Lion-O would come back when it was apparent he had died. This episode also showed the spirituality she gained from the Elephants. When Auburn was in danger of being killed, she was the first to blow the Cats’ cover to save him, loudly proclaiming that no one hurts her friends. She follows her emotions, and she won’t let anyone be harmed if she can help it. Besides Cheetara, Kit has shown the most faith and Lion-O and his cause. She believes in his vision to unite the people of Third Earth, and by the end of the series becomes a good friend to him. She may have a little crush on him, but she’s still very young. Unlike Kat, Kit seems a little more open to new ideas, and is willing to take more unconventional approaches to problems.

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Kit, like Lion-O, is an optimist, and holds on to hope as long as she can despite the odds. She believed Lion-O would come back when it was apparent he had died. This episode also showed the spirituality she gained from the Elephants. When Auburn was in danger of being killed, she was the first to blow the Cats’ cover to save him, loudly proclaiming that no one hurts her friends. She follows her emotions, and she won’t let anyone be harmed if she can help it. Besides Cheetara, Kit has shown the most faith and in Lion-O and his cause. She believes in his vision to unite the people of Third Earth, and by the end of the series becomes a good friend to him. She may have a little crush on him, but she’s still very young. Unlike Kat, Kit seems a little more open to new ideas, and is willing to take more unconventional approaches to problems.
27th Nov '12 10:38:54 PM StarOutlaw
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As far s personality goes, Tygra serves as a foil to Lion-O. He is level headed and realistic, but also cynical and rigid. Despite his role on the team, Tygra seems to have a harder time thinking of plans on the fly and being as flexible as Lion-O, as shown when he failed to get the Sword of Omens back from Mumm-Ra while leading the team in Lion-O’s absence. While growing up, Tygra seemed to idolize Grune, who in turn seemed to influence Tygra. Grune told him that what can’t be earned can be taken, and Tygra could very well have turned out as traitorous as Grune did, possibly usurping Lion-O if things had turned out differently.

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As far s as personality goes, Tygra serves as a foil to Lion-O. He is level headed and realistic, but also cynical and rigid. Despite his role on the team, Tygra seems to have a harder time thinking of plans on the fly and being as flexible as Lion-O, as shown when he failed to get the Sword of Omens back from Mumm-Ra while leading the team in Lion-O’s absence. While growing up, Tygra seemed to idolize Grune, who in turn seemed to influence Tygra. Grune told him that what can’t be earned can be taken, and Tygra could very well have turned out as traitorous as Grune did, possibly usurping Lion-O if things had turned out differently.
27th Nov '12 10:38:01 PM StarOutlaw
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Pride is of course Tygra's greatest flaw, and it comes from the shame he feels from what he feels is losing his place in the sun to Lion-O. If Lion-O, the heir to the throne, is lazy and irresponsible, what would that say about him, the second in line? Tygra is compulsed to act aggressive and always be showing off against Lion-O to alleviate his shame and fuel his pride, but it really only keeps making it worse. He feels like he's lost everything, but he can't see the things he should be grateful for. Tygra wants to believe his life is unfair, but really, he had the luck of being adopted by a king, and on top of that, he lives without the pressure of one day taking up the responsibility of being king. He has wealth, luxury, power, and on top of that the freedom to do what he wants, but his envy of Lion-O blinds him to all this. Tygra feels like it just isn't enough if he can't have that one thing. In the end, Tygra doesn't lives for anything but himself, he has no cause other than his desire to be seen as the best. It's really quite sad. The only other thing Tygra really lives for is Cheetara.
27th Nov '12 10:25:12 PM StarOutlaw
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As a good example, consider the Trials. Lion-O does not solve them directly, but indirectly, not through force but through cunning. His trial against Panthro clearly states that his greatest strength is as a leader, not his might. The trial his does not pass is against Tygra. Tygra represents all the misconceptions of what a leader should be. Lion-O doubts himself because, to an extent, he still believed he needed to be a strong warrior to be a good leader. But this was a secret test; Lion-O was never meant to beat Tygra, because ultimately beating Tygra would not make him anymore worthy to be king. Lion-O proved himself worthy to be king when he offered up his soul to save his friends, not because he was able to beat someone else. He put the good of others before himself.

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As a good example, consider the Trials. Lion-O does not solve them directly, but indirectly, not through force but through cunning. His trial against Panthro clearly states that his greatest strength is as a leader, not his might. The trial his he does not pass is against Tygra. Tygra represents all the misconceptions of what a leader should be. Lion-O doubts himself because, to an extent, he still believed he needed to be a strong warrior to be a good leader. But this was a secret test; Lion-O was never meant to beat Tygra, because ultimately beating Tygra would not make him anymore worthy to be king. Lion-O proved himself worthy to be king when he offered up his soul to save his friends, not because he was able to beat someone else. He put the good of others before himself.
27th Nov '12 7:26:24 PM StarOutlaw
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Lion-O fills a role which not many young protagonists, that of a ruler, something more demanding than simply being the “chosen one.” On top of this, his character is a bit unorthodox when compared to other protagonists in the same genre. Lion-O’s strength lies not his combat prowess but in his altruism and his ability to see things from a different perspective. While these may seem to be traits which many heroes already have, the series uses these in a way that make Lion-O a more unique protagonist in how he solves problems and achieves his goals. He realizes that ultimately strength and force aren’t going to be enough to save the world and lead his people. He needs to use kindness and diplomacy to build relations with the other races and gain allies to help in the fight against Mumm-Ra, a concept which not just characters in the show seem to not understand, but also several viewers who don’t understand the major themes of Thundercats.

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Lion-O fills a role which not many young protagonists, protagonists do, that of a ruler, something more demanding than simply being the “chosen one.” On top of this, his character is a bit unorthodox when compared to other protagonists in the same genre. Lion-O’s strength lies not his combat prowess but in his altruism and his ability to see things from a different perspective. While these may seem to be traits which many heroes already have, the series uses these in a way that make Lion-O a more unique protagonist in how he solves problems and achieves his goals. He realizes that ultimately strength and force aren’t going to be enough to save the world and lead his people. He needs to use kindness and diplomacy to build relations with the other races and gain allies to help in the fight against Mumm-Ra, a concept which not just characters in the show seem to not understand, but also several viewers who don’t understand the major themes of Thundercats.
27th Nov '12 6:48:51 PM StarOutlaw
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Lion-O can put his people on the right path. This is why the Sword of Omens and the Spirit Stone have chosen to let him wield their full power when he has little mastery of magic or combat. Lion-O does not use his strength to master these artifacts, he does not force their power through sheer determination, and he does not spend days training secret techniques to unlock their power. Lion-O is granted power when he shows the courage to try something new and different, when he is able to see things clearly and come to understand the bigger picture. Lion-O is not a mighty warrior. He is not a chosen one because he holds the most power, as many chosen ones do. Lion-O is the chosen one because of his heart and his vision, and this is what earns him his power. The stones of power choose to let Lion-O use them because they know he will use them for good and he needs that power succeed.

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Lion-O can put his people on the right path. This is why the Sword of Omens and the Spirit Stone have chosen to let him wield their full power when he has little mastery of magic or combat. Lion-O does not use his strength to master these artifacts, he does not force their power through sheer determination, and he does not spend days training secret techniques to unlock their power. Lion-O is granted power when he shows the courage to try something new and different, when he is able to see things clearly and come to understand the bigger picture. Lion-O is not a mighty warrior. He is not a chosen one because he holds the most power, as many chosen ones do. Lion-O is the chosen one because of his heart and his vision, and this is what earns him his power. The stones of power choose to let Lion-O use them because they know he will use them for good and he needs that power succeed. It is essentially RightMakesMight taken literally.
27th Nov '12 4:41:02 PM StarOutlaw
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Lion-O fills a role which not many young protagonists, that of a ruler, something more demanding than simply being the “chosen one.” On top of this, his character is a bit unorthodox when compared to other protagonists in the same genre. Lion-O’s strength lies not his combat prowess but in his altruism and his ability to see things from a different perspective. While these may seem to be traits which many heroes already have, the series uses these in a way that make Lion-O a more unique protagonist in how he solves problems and achieves his goals. He realizes that ultimately strength and force aren’t going to be enough to save the world and lead his people. He needs to use kindness and diplomacy to build relations with the other races and gain allies to help in the fight against Mumm-Ra, a concept which not just characters in the show seem to not understand, but also several viewers who don’t understand the major themes of Thundercats.

I believe that a misconception many people hold when judging the hero of a story is how often they win or how well they fight is a big factor in measuring the hero’s worth. We don’t like to see a hero who loses all the time, and it can make us question why this character has been designated as the hero. Shouldn’t the stronger character who wins a lot be the hero? Don’t they deserve to be the team leader more than the guy who can barely edge out a win? And there’s the problem. Lion-O is often judged to be too weak and unworthy to lead when compared to his brother Tygra, who is seen by the Cats at the start of the series to be the ideal heir to the throne. But this is wrong, and the reason is because the right to rule isn’t and shouldn’t be a reward earned for proving one’s might.

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Lion-O fills a role which not many young protagonists, that of a ruler, something more demanding than simply being the “chosen one.” On top of this, his character is a bit unorthodox when compared to other protagonists in the same genre. Lion-O’s strength lies not his combat prowess but in his altruism and his ability to see things from a different perspective. While these may seem to be traits which many heroes already have, the series uses these in a way that make Lion-O a more unique protagonist in how he solves problems and achieves his goals. He realizes that ultimately strength and force aren’t going to be enough to save the world and lead his people. He needs to use kindness and diplomacy to build relations with the other races and gain allies to help in the fight against Mumm-Ra, a concept which not just characters in the show seem to not understand, but also several viewers who don’t understand the major themes of Thundercats.

Thundercats.

I believe that a misconception many people hold when judging the hero of a story is how often they win or how well they fight is a big factor in measuring the hero’s worth. We don’t like to see a hero who loses all the time, and it can make us question why this character has been designated as the hero. Shouldn’t the stronger character who wins a lot be the hero? Don’t they deserve to be the team leader more than the guy who can barely edge out a win? And there’s the problem. Lion-O is often judged to be too weak and unworthy to lead when compared to his brother Tygra, who is seen by the Cats at the start of the series to be the ideal heir to the throne. But this is wrong, and the reason is because the right to rule isn’t and shouldn’t be a reward earned for proving one’s might.
might. Lion-O's character is, in some ways, a deconstruction of WhatMeasureIsANonBadass
27th Nov '12 6:49:13 AM StarOutlaw
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[[WMG: Tygra]]
Along with Lion-O, Tygra is one of the most complex characters in the series. While he has many admirable traits, such as his charm, his discipline, and determination, they all stem from deep insecurity. Tygra feels that he must prove he’s as worthy as Lion-O, whom he sees and being born lucky and undeserving of the crown. However, this is ultimately selfish behavior. Tygra wants to be king for his own satisfaction, to be acknowledged for his hard work and worth, but not for the responsibilities and duties that come with the crown. Tygra’s desire to be king is only to help his ego and no one else, and that is the primary reason why Lion-O is more worthy to be king, not simply because Tygra was adopted. I do not believe the Sword of Omens chooses its wielder based on their heritage. Ambition and pride are not always evil, but they are when taken too far, and Tygra was already teetering towards the dark side, as shown when he tried to kill Lion-O in the astral plane. But he is still good at heart, and he does keep himself from crossing the line.

Tygra mellows out once he and Cheetara get together. It could be that what Tygra really wanted most of all was just some affection, and not the kind that Claudus could give. The kind of affection his mother gave him. It is ironic that for someone who turns invisible, Tygra desperately seeks attention, but it seems that Cheetara’s attention was all he really needed, or at the least he’s happy knowing that one person loves him and always will. It would be interesting if Cheetara ever voiced disapproval over something Tygra said or did.

As far s personality goes, Tygra serves as a foil to Lion-O. He is level headed and realistic, but also cynical and rigid. Despite his role on the team, Tygra seems to have a harder time thinking of plans on the fly and being as flexible as Lion-O, as shown when he failed to get the Sword of Omens back from Mumm-Ra while leading the team in Lion-O’s absence. While growing up, Tygra seemed to idolize Grune, who in turn seemed to influence Tygra. Grune told him that what can’t be earned can be taken, and Tygra could very well have turned out as traitorous as Grune did, possibly usurping Lion-O if things had turned out differently.

Tygra never bothered to question Thundera’s society like Lion-O did. He stuck to all the social norms and never deviated, because he needed to feel loved and needed approval. In order to get that, Tygra devoted himself to becoming the prince everyone wanted, but not the prince that Thundera really needed, which turned out to be Lion-O. As such, Tygra is still shows prejudice against lizards and dogs despite everything Lion-O has done to mend the race relations. Hopefully Tygra’s attitude will change in time.
27th Nov '12 6:12:04 AM StarOutlaw
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[[WMG: Lion-O]]
Lion-O fills a role which not many young protagonists, that of a ruler, something more demanding than simply being the “chosen one.” On top of this, his character is a bit unorthodox when compared to other protagonists in the same genre. Lion-O’s strength lies not his combat prowess but in his altruism and his ability to see things from a different perspective. While these may seem to be traits which many heroes already have, the series uses these in a way that make Lion-O a more unique protagonist in how he solves problems and achieves his goals. He realizes that ultimately strength and force aren’t going to be enough to save the world and lead his people. He needs to use kindness and diplomacy to build relations with the other races and gain allies to help in the fight against Mumm-Ra, a concept which not just characters in the show seem to not understand, but also several viewers who don’t understand the major themes of Thundercats.

I believe that a misconception many people hold when judging the hero of a story is how often they win or how well they fight is a big factor in measuring the hero’s worth. We don’t like to see a hero who loses all the time, and it can make us question why this character has been designated as the hero. Shouldn’t the stronger character who wins a lot be the hero? Don’t they deserve to be the team leader more than the guy who can barely edge out a win? And there’s the problem. Lion-O is often judged to be too weak and unworthy to lead when compared to his brother Tygra, who is seen by the Cats at the start of the series to be the ideal heir to the throne. But this is wrong, and the reason is because the right to rule isn’t and shouldn’t be a reward earned for proving one’s might.

The reason Lion-O deserves to be king more than Tygra is because Lion-O wants to help other people, including the other races. If Tygra had become king, he would have ruled as Claudus and generations before him did, and the problems plaguing Thundera’s society would have never been remedied; there would still be classism and racism, and their kingdom would still be enemies with almost every other race because Thundera would have never changed its warrior like ways. Lion-O is, apparently, one of the only princes of Thundera to have ever wanted to make peace with the other races and not oppress them but treat them as equals. Lion-O does not see the Lizards, Rats or the Dogs as enemies, just as people, and he does not make sweeping generalizations about them.
Both characters and viewers sometimes complain that Lion-O shouldn’t be king because he never earned the position; he was simply given the title when his father died, and didn’t take his duties as prince as seriously as Tygra did. Lion-O was simply lucky, and we shouldn’t consider him worthy. Why should Lion-O have this important designation? The question is how does one earn the right to rule, much less leadership? Some leaders are elected, but I don’t believe anyone can agree that every elected leader deserved their position, since there have been many corrupt politicians. While Lion-O may have stumbled a bit early on as a leader, he does mature and become more capable as he learns and develops. And while he does sometimes fail, it is all in his attempts to do what is right.

Lion-O is sometimes accused by viewers for being spoiled, but I find this to be highly flawed. Lion-O grew up with Tygra, someone constantly trying to steal the spotlight from him and usually succeeding. Lion-O learned a great deal of humility from dealing with his brother, and constant reminders of how he didn’t measure up don’t usually help one’s ego. Fortunately, this humility ultimately led to Lion-O becoming a better person, as he sympathized with those who were bullied or oppressed. Lion-O isn’t without some pride though, and if there are times when he acts entitled, it could be seen as him reaching his limit when dealing with people who don’t listen to him, and considering how others used to think of him, he was listened to very little, save for Jaga and later Cheetara. And remember, he had Claudus for a father, who does not appear to be the pampering type. No, all things considered, being crown prince wasn’t all that great for Lion-O, always feeling the pressure of his inevitable kinghood whilst always doubting himself. It’s likely that Lion-O sought some sort of escape, and he may have started running away to the slums for this reason. His fascination with technology could be seen as an escapist fantasy, if he felt his real life was so unpleasant.

It is Lion-O’s good nature and humility which earns him the right to wield the Sword of Omens. The sword did not choose Lion-O because he was a great warrior, but because he has a good heart. Incredible intelligence or supreme power alone does not make a great leader, especially if that leader turns out to be evil or misguided. This has happened in real life plenty of times. Great leaders are those who want to do everything they can for the good of others, and they are those who have a vision of a future where everyone can be happy and free. This is the vision that Lion-O has, a future where all races and people can live in harmony. Tygra tried to prove he was worthy by being stronger than Lion-O, but he would never be worthy as long as he holds to the old prejudice ways of the past.

As a good example, consider the Trials. Lion-O does not solve them directly, but indirectly, not through force but through cunning. His trial against Panthro clearly states that his greatest strength is as a leader, not his might. The trial his does not pass is against Tygra. Tygra represents all the misconceptions of what a leader should be. Lion-O doubts himself because, to an extent, he still believed he needed to be a strong warrior to be a good leader. But this was a secret test; Lion-O was never meant to beat Tygra, because ultimately beating Tygra would not make him anymore worthy to be king. Lion-O proved himself worthy to be king when he offered up his soul to save his friends, not because he was able to beat someone else. He put the good of others before himself.

Lion-O is a good leader, and he has earned his position through the strength of his character. He has learned to value others as equals and put their needs before his own. Lion-O is able to see the big picture; he knows that the tensions between the Cats and the other races stem from generations of oppression. By being able to see and understand this, Lion-O is able to mend these relations and work towards a better future. He is willing to give his enemies a chance, which is a major step in the right direction. More than that, Lion-O is willing to listen to his enemies, to see when his own people are wrong, and come to understand others instead of dismissing them. Another great example is when he talks to beaten lizard soldiers like they were real people, and convinces them to give up fighting. Then later he risks his own life to save them from being executed for deserting. How many other fictional protagonists have done something like that?

Lion-O can put his people on the right path. This is why the Sword of Omens and the Spirit Stone have chosen to let him wield their full power when he has little mastery of magic or combat. Lion-O does not use his strength to master these artifacts, he does not force their power through sheer determination, and he does not spend days training secret techniques to unlock their power. Lion-O is granted power when he shows the courage to try something new and different, when he is able to see things clearly and come to understand the bigger picture. Lion-O is not a mighty warrior. He is not a chosen one because he holds the most power, as many chosen ones do. Lion-O is the chosen one because of his heart and his vision, and this is what earns him his power. The stones of power choose to let Lion-O use them because they know he will use them for good and he needs that power succeed.

We see Lion-O really come into his role as king in the second half of the season, especially when dealing with Pumyra. He makes her his responsibility, and actively tries to work towards his long term goals. Lion-O displays his determination to stick to his ideals, and while he does suffer setbacks, his kindness saves him in the long run. Despite the losses, he has already sown the seeds for the alliance which will eventually defeat Mumm-Ra.

It’s not about being strong. As a great animated character once said, power and perfection are overrated. Iroh of Avatar was very wise. He knew that the ways of the Fire Nation were wrong, and while Zuko may not have been the strongest bender in the world, he was by far the most qualified person to be Fire Lord, much more than his sister or father. Lion-O and Zuko both understand this. You cannot lead through might, it will only end badly. Striving for power and to prove your worth is sometimes just a product of shame. It can lead to too much pride and a loss of humility, as it did with Tygra and Azula, and despite all their strength and power they can never be truly happy as long as they cling to their desire to be better than their sibling.
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