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* (0.) There was a secret passage to the room or hidden hole in the wall: dismissed by Carr as an AssPull, which is probably justified unless there is some particularly plausible and unusual, but deducible, reason as to why the gap existed and was overlooked. Slightly less of an AssPull is the clearly visible hole in the wall which is wrongly dismissed because "nobody could possibly" have climbed up the chimney, or escaped through a tenth-story window.
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# Murder committed from a distance using a method designed to misleadingly suggest that the killer was at close range. A common version of this involves the use of melting, soluble, or otherwise decomposing projectiles to give the false impression that the murderer was inside the room and took the weapon away.[[note]]In real life, bullets made from [[DepletedPhlebotinumShells most suitable materials]] would almost certainly be too unstable and/or brittle for it to be possible to fire them out of a gun.[[/note]]
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# Murder committed from a distance using a method designed to misleadingly suggest that the killer was at close range. A common version of this involves the use of melting, soluble, or otherwise decomposing projectiles to give the false impression that the murderer was inside the room and took the weapon away.[[note]]In real life, bullets made from [[DepletedPhlebotinumShells most suitable materials]] would almost certainly be too unstable and/or brittle for it to be possible to fire them out of a gun.[[/note]][[/note]] Killing at close range but from outside the room (for instance, using a narrow blade to stab them through the keyhole) is a variant.
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# Murder committed from a distance using a method designed to misleadingly suggest that the killer was at close range. A common version of this involves the use of melting, soluble, or otherwise decomposing projectiles to give the false impression that the murderer was inside the room and took the weapon away.[[note]]In real life, bullets made from [[DepletedPhlebotinumShells most suitable materials]] would almost certainly be too unstable and/or brittle for it to be possible to fire them out of a gun.[[/note]]
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## (6a.) Carr includes in 6 something which is arguably significant enough to deserve its own section, TimeDelayedDeath where the fatal injury was inflicted outside the room and the victim sealed himself in either not noticing the injury or trying to get away from the killer.
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## (6a.) Carr includes in 6 something which is arguably significant enough to deserve its own section, TimeDelayedDeath where the fatal injury was inflicted outside the room and the victim sealed himself in either not noticing the injury or trying to get away from the killer. (This happens often enough in real life that if a murdered person is found in a room locked from the inside, the police will usually assume that this was the cause instead of worrying about it.)
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# Murder committed from a distance using a method designed to misleadingly suggest that the killer was at close range. A common version of this involves the use of melting, soluble, or otherwise decomposing weapons projectiles to give the false impression that the murderer was inside the room and took the weapon away.
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For people who are interested, the solution to the main murder in ''The Hollow Man'' is [[spoiler:a combination of 5 and 6a]].
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For people who are interested, the solution to the main murder in ''The Hollow Man'' is [[spoiler:a (very complicated and unusual) combination of 5 and 6a]].
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The solution to a LockedRoomMystery can be one of several types, as typologised by John Dickson Carr in his novel ''The Hollow Man''/''The Three Coffins''.
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The solution to a LockedRoomMystery can be one of several types, as typologised by John Dickson Carr Creator/JohnDicksonCarr in his novel ''The Hollow Man''/''The Three Coffins''.
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# The reverse of 5., where the victim was killed immediately after the room was opened by one of the people who first "discovered" the situation.
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# The reverse of 5., where the victim was killed immediately after the room was opened by one of the people who first "discovered" the situation. This would also include the solution used in a few stories, but not mentioned by Carr, of the murderer hiding inside the room until the body was discovered and [[RefugeInAudacity hoping that in the shock of the discovery nobody would notice]] that they didn't enter the room with all the other horrified witnesses.
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* (0.) There was a secret passage to the room or hidden hole in the wall: dismissed by Carr as an AssPull, which is probably justified unless there is some particularly plausible and unusual unusual, but deducible, reason as to why the gap existed and was overlooked.
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## (6a.) Carr includes in 6 something which is arguably significant enough to deserve its own section, TimeDelayedDeath where the fatal injury was inflicted outside the room and the victim sealed himself in either not noticing the injury or trying to get away from the killer.
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* (0. There was a secret passage to the room or hidden hole in the wall: dismissed by Carr as an AssPull, which is probably justified unless there is some particularly plausible and unusual reason as to why the gap existed and was overlooked.)
* 1. The victim died by accident in a way that appeared to be murder (often a DeathByFallingOver).
* 2. The victim was driven to kill himself by drugs, hypnotic suggestion, or blackmail.
* 3. The murder was committed using some kind of hidden BoobyTrap designed to give the impression of a human killer being present.
* 4. SuicideNotMurder.
* 5. Tricks based around making the victim appear to be alive and active within the room when they were actually already dead (and, usually, killed by the last person to see them alive).
* 6. Murder committed from a distance using a method designed to misleadingly suggest that the killer was at close range. A common version of this involves the use of melting, soluble, or otherwise decomposing weapons to give the false impression that the murderer was inside the room and took the weapon away.
** 6a. Carr includes in 6 something which is arguably significant enough to deserve its own section, TimeDelayedDeath where the fatal injury was inflicted outside the room and the victim sealed himself in either not noticing the injury or trying to get away from the killer.
* 7. The reverse of 5., where the victim was killed immediately after the room was opened by one of the people who first "discovered" the situation.
* 8. The room was sealed from outside in such a way as to make it appear to have been sealed from the inside, or, similarly to 7., the room was never actually sealed and the first person to enter it falsely claimed or was tricked into believing that it was.
For people who are interested, the solution to the main murder in ''The Hollow Man'' is [[spoiler:a combination of 5 and 6a]].
* 1. The victim died by accident in a way that appeared to be murder (often a DeathByFallingOver).
* 2. The victim was driven to kill himself by drugs, hypnotic suggestion, or blackmail.
* 3. The murder was committed using some kind of hidden BoobyTrap designed to give the impression of a human killer being present.
* 4. SuicideNotMurder.
* 5. Tricks based around making the victim appear to be alive and active within the room when they were actually already dead (and, usually, killed by the last person to see them alive).
* 6. Murder committed from a distance using a method designed to misleadingly suggest that the killer was at close range. A common version of this involves the use of melting, soluble, or otherwise decomposing weapons to give the false impression that the murderer was inside the room and took the weapon away.
** 6a. Carr includes in 6 something which is arguably significant enough to deserve its own section, TimeDelayedDeath where the fatal injury was inflicted outside the room and the victim sealed himself in either not noticing the injury or trying to get away from the killer.
* 7. The reverse of 5., where the victim was killed immediately after the room was opened by one of the people who first "discovered" the situation.
* 8. The room was sealed from outside in such a way as to make it appear to have been sealed from the inside, or, similarly to 7., the room was never actually sealed and the first person to enter it falsely claimed or was tricked into believing that it was.
For people who are interested, the solution to the main murder in ''The Hollow Man'' is [[spoiler:a combination of 5 and 6a]].
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* (0. There (There was a secret passage to the room or hidden hole in the wall: dismissed by Carr as an AssPull, which is probably justified unless there is some particularly plausible and unusual reason as to why the gap existed and was overlooked.)
* 1. # The victim died by accident in a way that appeared to be murder (often a DeathByFallingOver).
* 2. # The victim was driven to kill himself by drugs, hypnotic suggestion, or blackmail.
* 3. # The murder was committed using some kind of hidden BoobyTrap designed to give the impression of a human killer being present.
* 4. # SuicideNotMurder.
* 5. # Tricks based around making the victim appear to be alive and active within the room when they were actually already dead (and, usually, killed by the last person to see them alive).
* 6. # Murder committed from a distance using a method designed to misleadingly suggest that the killer was at close range. A common version of this involves the use of melting, soluble, or otherwise decomposing weapons to give the false impression that the murderer was inside the room and took the weapon away.
** 6a. ## Carr includes in 6 something which is arguably significant enough to deserve its own section, TimeDelayedDeath where the fatal injury was inflicted outside the room and the victim sealed himself in either not noticing the injury or trying to get away from the killer.
* 7. # The reverse of 5., where the victim was killed immediately after the room was opened by one of the people who first "discovered" the situation.
* 8. # The room was sealed from outside in such a way as to make it appear to have been sealed from the inside, or, similarly to 7., the room was never actually sealed and the first person to enter it falsely claimed or was tricked into believing that it was.
For people who are interested, the solution to the main murder in ''The Hollow Man'' is [[spoiler:a combination of 5 and6a]].6a]].
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* 8. The room was sealed from outside in such a way as to make it appear to have been sealed from the inside, or, similarly to 7., the room was never actually sealed and the first person to enter it falsely claimed or was tricked into believing that it was.
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* 7. The reverse of 5., where the victim is killed immediately after the room is opened by one of the people who first "discovered" the situation.
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* 7. The reverse of 5., where the victim is was killed immediately after the room is was opened by one of the people who first "discovered" the situation.
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* 6. Murder committed from a distance using a method designed to misleadingly suggest that the killer was at close range. A common version of this involves the use of [[DepletedPhlebotinumShells melting, soluble, or otherwise decomposing bullets]] to give the false impression that the victim was stabbed.
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* 6. Murder committed from a distance using a method designed to misleadingly suggest that the killer was at close range.
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* 6. Murder committed from a distance using a method designed to misleadingly suggest that the killer was at close range. A common version of this involves the use of [[DepletedPhlebotinumShells melting, soluble, or otherwise decomposing bullets]] to give the false impression that the victim was stabbed.
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(0. There was a secret passage to the room or hidden hole in the wall: dismissed by Carr as an AssPull, which is probably justified unless there is some particularly plausible and unusual reason as to why the gap existed and was overlooked.)
1. The victim died by accident in a way that appeared to be murder (often a DeathByFallingOver).
2. The victim was forced to kill himself by drugs, hypnotic suggestion, or blackmail.
3. The murder was committed using some kind of hidden BoobyTrap designed to give the impression of a human killer being present.
4. SuicideNotMurder.
5. Tricks based around making the victim appear to be alive and active within the room when they were actually already dead.
6. Murder committed from a distance using a method designed to misleadingly suggest that the killer was at close range. (Carr includes in this something which is arguably significant enough to deserve its own section, TimeDelayedDeath where the fatal injury was inflicted outside the room and the victim sealed himself in either not noticing the injury or trying to get away from the killer.)
7. The reverse of 5., where the victim is killed immediately after the room is opened by one of the people who first "discovered" the situation.
8. The room was sealed from outside in such a way as to make it appear to have been sealed from the inside, or, similarly to 7., the room was never actually sealed and the first person to enter it falsely claimed that it was.
1. The victim died by accident in a way that appeared to be murder (often a DeathByFallingOver).
2. The victim was forced to kill himself by drugs, hypnotic suggestion, or blackmail.
3. The murder was committed using some kind of hidden BoobyTrap designed to give the impression of a human killer being present.
4. SuicideNotMurder.
5. Tricks based around making the victim appear to be alive and active within the room when they were actually already dead.
6. Murder committed from a distance using a method designed to misleadingly suggest that the killer was at close range. (Carr includes in this something which is arguably significant enough to deserve its own section, TimeDelayedDeath where the fatal injury was inflicted outside the room and the victim sealed himself in either not noticing the injury or trying to get away from the killer.)
7. The reverse of 5., where the victim is killed immediately after the room is opened by one of the people who first "discovered" the situation.
8. The room was sealed from outside in such a way as to make it appear to have been sealed from the inside, or, similarly to 7., the room was never actually sealed and the first person to enter it falsely claimed that it was.
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* (0. There was a secret passage to the room or hidden hole in the wall: dismissed by Carr as an AssPull, which is probably justified unless there is some particularly plausible and unusual reason as to why the gap existed and was overlooked.)
* 1. The victim died by accident in a way that appeared to be murder (often a DeathByFallingOver).
* 2. The victim wasforced driven to kill himself by drugs, hypnotic suggestion, or blackmail.
* 3. The murder was committed using some kind of hidden BoobyTrap designed to give the impression of a human killer being present.
* 4. SuicideNotMurder.
* 5. Tricks based around making the victim appear to be alive and active within the room when they were actually already dead.
* 6. Murder committed from a distance using a method designed to misleadingly suggest that the killer was at close range. (Carr
** 6a. Carr includes inthis 6 something which is arguably significant enough to deserve its own section, TimeDelayedDeath where the fatal injury was inflicted outside the room and the victim sealed himself in either not noticing the injury or trying to get away from the killer.)
killer.
* 7. The reverse of 5., where the victim is killed immediately after the room is opened by one of the people who first "discovered" the situation.
* 8. The room was sealed from outside in such a way as to make it appear to have been sealed from the inside, or, similarly to 7., the room was never actually sealed and the first person to enter it falsely claimed that itwas.was.
For people who are interested, the solution to the main murder in ''The Hollow Man'' is [[spoiler:a combination of 5 and 6a]].
* 1. The victim died by accident in a way that appeared to be murder (often a DeathByFallingOver).
* 2. The victim was
* 3. The murder was committed using some kind of hidden BoobyTrap designed to give the impression of a human killer being present.
* 4. SuicideNotMurder.
* 5. Tricks based around making the victim appear to be alive and active within the room when they were actually already dead.
* 6. Murder committed from a distance using a method designed to misleadingly suggest that the killer was at close range.
** 6a. Carr includes in
* 7. The reverse of 5., where the victim is killed immediately after the room is opened by one of the people who first "discovered" the situation.
* 8. The room was sealed from outside in such a way as to make it appear to have been sealed from the inside, or, similarly to 7., the room was never actually sealed and the first person to enter it falsely claimed that it
For people who are interested, the solution to the main murder in ''The Hollow Man'' is [[spoiler:a combination of 5 and 6a]].
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The solution to a LockedRoomMystery can be one of several types, as typologised by John Dickson Carr in his novel ''The Hollow Man''/''The Three Coffins''.
(0. There was a secret passage to the room or hidden hole in the wall: dismissed by Carr as an AssPull, which is probably justified unless there is some particularly plausible and unusual reason as to why the gap existed and was overlooked.)
1. The victim died by accident in a way that appeared to be murder (often a DeathByFallingOver).
2. The victim was forced to kill himself by drugs, hypnotic suggestion, or blackmail.
3. The murder was committed using some kind of hidden BoobyTrap designed to give the impression of a human killer being present.
4. SuicideNotMurder.
5. Tricks based around making the victim appear to be alive and active within the room when they were actually already dead.
6. Murder committed from a distance using a method designed to misleadingly suggest that the killer was at close range. (Carr includes in this something which is arguably significant enough to deserve its own section, TimeDelayedDeath where the fatal injury was inflicted outside the room and the victim sealed himself in either not noticing the injury or trying to get away from the killer.)
7. The reverse of 5., where the victim is killed immediately after the room is opened by one of the people who first "discovered" the situation.
8. The room was sealed from outside in such a way as to make it appear to have been sealed from the inside, or, similarly to 7., the room was never actually sealed and the first person to enter it falsely claimed that it was.
(0. There was a secret passage to the room or hidden hole in the wall: dismissed by Carr as an AssPull, which is probably justified unless there is some particularly plausible and unusual reason as to why the gap existed and was overlooked.)
1. The victim died by accident in a way that appeared to be murder (often a DeathByFallingOver).
2. The victim was forced to kill himself by drugs, hypnotic suggestion, or blackmail.
3. The murder was committed using some kind of hidden BoobyTrap designed to give the impression of a human killer being present.
4. SuicideNotMurder.
5. Tricks based around making the victim appear to be alive and active within the room when they were actually already dead.
6. Murder committed from a distance using a method designed to misleadingly suggest that the killer was at close range. (Carr includes in this something which is arguably significant enough to deserve its own section, TimeDelayedDeath where the fatal injury was inflicted outside the room and the victim sealed himself in either not noticing the injury or trying to get away from the killer.)
7. The reverse of 5., where the victim is killed immediately after the room is opened by one of the people who first "discovered" the situation.
8. The room was sealed from outside in such a way as to make it appear to have been sealed from the inside, or, similarly to 7., the room was never actually sealed and the first person to enter it falsely claimed that it was.
