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* ShipTease - Light and Misa and Light and L
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* ShipTease - Light and Misa Misa, L and Misa, Light and L
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* In the Live Action movie, there are definitely hints of a ship tease between Misa and L when they first meet. And then L proceed to lock Misa up and restrain her in a unnecessarily perverted-looking way.
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That is, justice will prevail - but not because it is good or right. Justice will always prevail, but only because whoever wins will claim it. There is no true justice; it's a matter of MightMakesRight. Then at the end of it all, nobody prevails; they're almost all dead, and nothing changes. Nobody was saved by this ordeal. That's because the entire concept of justice is fundamentally flawed, particularly in this series' GreyAndGreyMorality. There is no 'good' or 'evil; everything simply is. That's why there's no heaven or hell, and that's why neither Light or L made it to the end alive. They were fighting against an evil that never existed to begin with. They were doomed from the start, because their entire frames of thinking were wrong.
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That is, justice will prevail - but not because it is good or right. Justice will always prevail, but only because whoever wins will claim it. There is no true justice; it's a matter of not RightMakesMight, but MightMakesRight. Then Then, at the end of it all, nobody prevails; they're almost all dead, and nothing changes. Nobody was saved by this ordeal. That's because the entire concept of justice is fundamentally flawed, particularly in this series' GreyAndGreyMorality. There is no 'good' or 'evil; everything simply is. That's why there's no heaven or hell, and that's why neither Light or L made it to the end alive. They were fighting against an evil that never existed to begin with. They were doomed from the start, because their entire frames of thinking were wrong.
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** Also Misa seems to be a parody of typical shojou tropes, especially the MagicalGirl genre: a young, beautiful, yet ditzy girl is granted magical powers (see above) by a (not so) cute NonHumanSidekick (a gross, monster-like creature), [[SailorMoon is fighting evil by the moonlight]] (by murdering criminals and innocents), finding a MysteriousProtector (InNameOnly, who just uses and manipulates her, gives a shit about her as a person and actually wants to kill her in the beginning) and falling in love with him (as in: becoming completely devoted to him [[LoveAtFirstSight unrealistically fast]], dedicating her life to him and being completely obedient. ([[SarcasmMode Like any good (soon-to-be) wife should do!]])) Bonus points, because she tems up with demons, instead of fighting them, like a typical MagicalGirlWarrior.
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** Also Misa seems to be a parody of typical shojou tropes, especially the MagicalGirl genre: a young, beautiful, yet ditzy girl is granted magical powers (see above) by a (not so) cute NonHumanSidekick (a gross, monster-like creature), [[SailorMoon is fighting evil by the moonlight]] (by murdering criminals and innocents), finding a MysteriousProtector (InNameOnly, who just uses and manipulates her, gives doesn't give a shit about her as a person and actually wants to kill her in the beginning) and falling in love with him (as in: becoming completely devoted to him [[LoveAtFirstSight unrealistically fast]], dedicating her life to him and being completely obedient. ([[SarcasmMode Like any good (soon-to-be) wife should do!]])) Bonus points, because she tems up with demons, instead of fighting them, like a typical MagicalGirlWarrior.
MagicalGirlWarrior.
!! ''Manga/DeathNote'''s main theme is [[PlayingWithATrope playing with]] JusticeWillPrevail
Much of the story is spent waffling on about "justice" and "righteousness", and all of the characters seem to believe that, because RightMakesMight, their ideals will cause them to be victorious. They all, particularly Light and L, stick very closely to this mindset for most of the story. Then we get this statement from Light:
--> Light: If we catch Kira, he is evil. If he succeeds, he is justice.
That is, justice will prevail - but not because it is good or right. Justice will always prevail, but only because whoever wins will claim it. There is no true justice; it's a matter of MightMakesRight. Then at the end of it all, nobody prevails; they're almost all dead, and nothing changes. Nobody was saved by this ordeal. That's because the entire concept of justice is fundamentally flawed, particularly in this series' GreyAndGreyMorality. There is no 'good' or 'evil; everything simply is. That's why there's no heaven or hell, and that's why neither Light or L made it to the end alive. They were fighting against an evil that never existed to begin with. They were doomed from the start, because their entire frames of thinking were wrong.
!! ''Manga/DeathNote'''s main theme is [[PlayingWithATrope playing with]] JusticeWillPrevail
Much of the story is spent waffling on about "justice" and "righteousness", and all of the characters seem to believe that, because RightMakesMight, their ideals will cause them to be victorious. They all, particularly Light and L, stick very closely to this mindset for most of the story. Then we get this statement from Light:
--> Light: If we catch Kira, he is evil. If he succeeds, he is justice.
That is, justice will prevail - but not because it is good or right. Justice will always prevail, but only because whoever wins will claim it. There is no true justice; it's a matter of MightMakesRight. Then at the end of it all, nobody prevails; they're almost all dead, and nothing changes. Nobody was saved by this ordeal. That's because the entire concept of justice is fundamentally flawed, particularly in this series' GreyAndGreyMorality. There is no 'good' or 'evil; everything simply is. That's why there's no heaven or hell, and that's why neither Light or L made it to the end alive. They were fighting against an evil that never existed to begin with. They were doomed from the start, because their entire frames of thinking were wrong.
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A) The choice to use the question of an APD (a condition associated with criminality) diagnosis to examine whether or not Light was a sociopath (which is not a term in psychiatric use) ignores the fact that most sociopaths are not criminals; they simply lack empathy and remorse. Most of them lead normal lives and can have quite successful careers. Light's lack of criminal or antisocial behavior prior to acquiring the Death Note is clinically insignificant.
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A) The choice to use the question of an APD (a condition associated with criminality) diagnosis to examine whether or not Light was a sociopath (which is not a term not in psychiatric use) ignores the fact that most sociopaths are not criminals; they simply lack empathy and remorse. Most of them lead normal lives and can have quite successful careers. Light's lack of criminal or antisocial behavior prior to acquiring the Death Note is clinically insignificant.
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1. The choice to use the question of an APD (a condition associated with criminality) diagnosis to examine whether or not Light was a sociopath (which is not a term in psychiatric use) ignores the fact that most sociopaths are not criminals; they simply lack empathy and remorse. Most of them lead normal lives and can have quite successful careers. Light's lack of criminal or antisocial behavior prior to acquiring the Death Note is clinically insignificant.
2. It ignores the fact that Light becomes incredibly sadistic as the story moves along (with the beginnings of it showing up relatively early on).
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B) It ignores the fact that Light becomes incredibly sadistic as the story moves along (with the beginnings of it showing up relatively early
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* B - a sociopath. Light is also often labled a sociopath by fandom, however L and Near fit the criteria better than Light does! See more at this fan essay: [[http://serria-musings.livejournal.com/14884.html#cutid1 "Light is not a Sociopath"]]
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* B - a sociopath. Light is also often labled a sociopath by fandom, however L and Near fit the criteria better than Light does! See more at this fan essay: [[http://serria-musings.livejournal.com/14884.html#cutid1 "Light is not a Sociopath"]] Sociopath"]]
** Post-Death Note Light is absolutely a sociopath. The linked essay provides a list of seven symptoms of Antisocial Personality Disorder. Light fits the four most important ones.
1. Failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviors as indicated by repeatedly performing acts that are grounds for arrest;
2. Deceitfulness, as indicated by repeatedly lying, use of aliases, or conning others for personal profit or pleasure;
5. Reckless disregard for safety of self or others;
7. Lack of remorse, as indicated by being indifferent to or rationalizing having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from another.
There are two problems with the essay:
1. The choice to use the question of an APD (a condition associated with criminality) diagnosis to examine whether or not Light was a sociopath (which is not a term in psychiatric use) ignores the fact that most sociopaths are not criminals; they simply lack empathy and remorse. Most of them lead normal lives and can have quite successful careers. Light's lack of criminal or antisocial behavior prior to acquiring the Death Note is clinically insignificant.
2. It ignores the fact that Light becomes incredibly sadistic as the story moves along (with the beginnings of it showing up relatively early on).
** Post-Death Note Light is absolutely a sociopath. The linked essay provides a list of seven symptoms of Antisocial Personality Disorder. Light fits the four most important ones.
1. Failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviors as indicated by repeatedly performing acts that are grounds for arrest;
2. Deceitfulness, as indicated by repeatedly lying, use of aliases, or conning others for personal profit or pleasure;
5. Reckless disregard for safety of self or others;
7. Lack of remorse, as indicated by being indifferent to or rationalizing having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from another.
There are two problems with the essay:
1. The choice to use the question of an APD (a condition associated with criminality) diagnosis to examine whether or not Light was a sociopath (which is not a term in psychiatric use) ignores the fact that most sociopaths are not criminals; they simply lack empathy and remorse. Most of them lead normal lives and can have quite successful careers. Light's lack of criminal or antisocial behavior prior to acquiring the Death Note is clinically insignificant.
2. It ignores the fact that Light becomes incredibly sadistic as the story moves along (with the beginnings of it showing up relatively early on).
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Yeah, that ''DAMN'' Ryuuzaki, saying he's my friend. It's not like I like you or anything!
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** He is {{aesexual}}.
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** He is {{aesexual}}.{{asexual|ity}}.
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** He is aesexual.
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** He is aesexual.{{aesexual}}.
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Some things to debate: Capital Punishment, Character's Morality, are L and Light really NotSoDifferent? PayEvilUntoEvil - is it ever really "okay?"
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Some things to debate: Capital Punishment, Character's Morality, are L and Light really NotSoDifferent? PayEvilUntoEvil - -- is it ever really "okay?"
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!! ''DeathNote'' is a deconstruction of Shonen tropes.
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!! ''DeathNote'' ''Manga/DeathNote'' is a deconstruction of Shonen tropes.
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Want to write the next DeathNote? Try [[SoYouWantTo/WriteAMagnificentBastard So You Want To Write A Magnificent Bastard]]
Back to ''DeathNote''.
Back to ''DeathNote''.
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Want to write the next DeathNote? Manga/DeathNote? Try [[SoYouWantTo/WriteAMagnificentBastard So You Want To Write A Magnificent Bastard]]
Back to''DeathNote''.''Manga/DeathNote''.
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* Light is unable to see any flaw in himself, which is the main thing that separates him from L and what devoids him of any empathy. It is probably the fact that L is NotSoDifferent that mekes him consider him a WorthyOpponent. Light usually sees positive traits in L ("L will probably figure out this", "L is too smart to fall for that") because those are positive traits he sees in himself. L on the other hand is pretty aware of his own flaws, he immediately assumes Kira is childish and hates losing because L himself is like that, and admits that even if Misa had carried on with her threat of the police to make them expose L, he wouldn't have appeared on tv because he isn't that noble. This is reflected upon each's plans for the world, Light believes in a perfect world filled exclusivelly with good, respectful, working people, where everything is perfect just like him. L, and later Near, see the world as flawed and seem pretty ok with it, since they're pretty ok with their own flaws. Ironically, is the awareness of their own flaws what keeps them in the gray of the BlackAndGrayMorality while Light's vision of himself as perfect is what leads him to become a CompleteMonster.
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* Light is unable to see any flaw in himself, which is the main thing that separates him from L and what devoids him of any empathy. It is probably the fact that L is NotSoDifferent that mekes makes him consider him a WorthyOpponent. Light usually sees positive traits in L ("L will probably figure out this", "L is too smart to fall for that") because those are positive traits he sees in himself. L on the other hand is pretty aware of his own flaws, he immediately assumes Kira is childish and hates losing because L himself is like that, and admits that even if Misa had carried on with her threat of the police to make them expose L, he wouldn't have appeared on tv because he isn't that noble. This is reflected upon each's plans for the world, Light believes in a perfect world filled exclusivelly with good, respectful, working people, where everything is perfect just like him. L, and later Near, see the world as flawed and seem pretty ok with it, since they're pretty ok with their own flaws. Ironically, is the awareness of their own flaws what keeps them in the gray of the BlackAndGrayMorality while Light's vision of himself as perfect is what leads him to become a CompleteMonster.
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It's not that uncommon to find other characters displaying feelings for Light, but both the manga and the anime give subtle hints about Light having feelings for them, leaving the audience to wonder what's really going on here...
Everyone who has had a conversation with Misa knows that she adores Light. But -- and in the manga only -- there are some very subtle hints that Light might have had some feelings, or the possibility of some feelings, for her. Specifically, when they first meet and she's explaining the shinigami eyesight to him, he leans in very close to her, catches her eye, compliments her with "You're pretty good at explaining," -- and then realizes what he's doing and abruptly draws back, thinking to himself, "I can't develop feelings. That's how most idiots screw up." He even has a bit of a sweatdrop; Misa, of course, is blushing. This scene did not find its way into the anime and the official guidebook states that Light hates Misa as much as he hates L ... although, truth be told, you've got to [[FoeYay wonder]] [[HoYay about]] that, too.
* It's definitely debatable, but a few sequences in the anime seem to give (subtle and admittedly ambiguous) clues about Light's feelings for both L and Misa. In episode 26, [[spoiler: after Light manipulates Rem into killing L]], Light hallucinates L sitting next to him (mouthing something that's been speculated to be "Raito-kun?") and gazes numbly at the computer. The scene then cuts to Light and Misa on a date, Light still with that numb look. Completely out of the blue, he asks Misa to move in with him -- he doesn't sweet-talk her, he just blurts it out. She cheers, but Ryuk, who usually has something snide to say, just looks away.
* In one of the bonus strips, admittedly oriented towards a more humorous and light look at the series, in the thirteenth volume, Misa tells Light that she wants to give up the Death Note. Light's reaction is to grab her shoulders and protest that they're going to create a new world together, and that he needs her.
Everyone who has had a conversation with Misa knows that she adores Light. But -- and in the manga only -- there are some very subtle hints that Light might have had some feelings, or the possibility of some feelings, for her. Specifically, when they first meet and she's explaining the shinigami eyesight to him, he leans in very close to her, catches her eye, compliments her with "You're pretty good at explaining," -- and then realizes what he's doing and abruptly draws back, thinking to himself, "I can't develop feelings. That's how most idiots screw up." He even has a bit of a sweatdrop; Misa, of course, is blushing. This scene did not find its way into the anime and the official guidebook states that Light hates Misa as much as he hates L ... although, truth be told, you've got to [[FoeYay wonder]] [[HoYay about]] that, too.
* It's definitely debatable, but a few sequences in the anime seem to give (subtle and admittedly ambiguous) clues about Light's feelings for both L and Misa. In episode 26, [[spoiler: after Light manipulates Rem into killing L]], Light hallucinates L sitting next to him (mouthing something that's been speculated to be "Raito-kun?") and gazes numbly at the computer. The scene then cuts to Light and Misa on a date, Light still with that numb look. Completely out of the blue, he asks Misa to move in with him -- he doesn't sweet-talk her, he just blurts it out. She cheers, but Ryuk, who usually has something snide to say, just looks away.
* In one of the bonus strips, admittedly oriented towards a more humorous and light look at the series, in the thirteenth volume, Misa tells Light that she wants to give up the Death Note. Light's reaction is to grab her shoulders and protest that they're going to create a new world together, and that he needs her.
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** It's not that uncommon to find other characters displaying feelings for Light, but both the manga and the anime give subtle hints about Light having feelings for them, leaving the audience to wonder what's really going on here...
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** Everyone who has had a conversation with Misa knows that she adores Light. But -- and in the manga only -- there are some very subtle hints that Light might have had some feelings, or the possibility of some feelings, for her. Specifically, when they first meet and she's explaining the shinigami eyesight to him, he leans in very close to her, catches her eye, compliments her with "You're pretty good at explaining," -- and then realizes what he's doing and abruptly draws back, thinking to himself, "I can't develop feelings. That's how most idiots screw up." He even has a bit of a sweatdrop; Misa, of course, is blushing. This scene did not find its way into the anime and the official guidebook states that Light hates Misa as much as he hates L ... although, truth be told, you've got to [[FoeYay wonder]] [[HoYay about]] that, too.
* ** It's definitely debatable, but a few sequences in the anime seem to give (subtle and admittedly ambiguous) clues about Light's feelings for both L and Misa. In episode 26, [[spoiler: after Light manipulates Rem into killing L]], Light hallucinates L sitting next to him (mouthing something that's been speculated to be "Raito-kun?") and gazes numbly at the computer. The scene then cuts to Light and Misa on a date, Light still with that numb look. Completely out of the blue, he asks Misa to move in with him -- he doesn't sweet-talk her, he just blurts it out. She cheers, but Ryuk, who usually has something snide to say, just looks away.
* ** In one of the bonus strips, admittedly oriented towards a more humorous and light look at the series, in the thirteenth volume, Misa tells Light that she wants to give up the Death Note. Light's reaction is to grab her shoulders and protest that they're going to create a new world together, and that he needs her.
** Everyone who has had a conversation with Misa knows that she adores Light. But -- and in the manga only -- there are some very subtle hints that Light might have had some feelings, or the possibility of some feelings, for her. Specifically, when they first meet and she's explaining the shinigami eyesight to him, he leans in very close to her, catches her eye, compliments her with "You're pretty good at explaining," -- and then realizes what he's doing and abruptly draws back, thinking to himself, "I can't develop feelings. That's how most idiots screw up." He even has a bit of a sweatdrop; Misa, of course, is blushing. This scene did not find its way into the anime and the official guidebook states that Light hates Misa as much as he hates L ... although, truth be told, you've got to [[FoeYay wonder]] [[HoYay about]] that, too.
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Light (Kira) and L are [[FoeYay enemies and hate each other]] and yet there is so much HoYay it leads one to wonder if something else might be going on between them. (Unless you've welded on the AntiGoggles)
They are chained together for months. [[DeathGlare They stare at each other... a lot.]] L gives Light a symbolic foot massage... while they are both dripping wet and romantic music plays in the background.
L is Light's NotLoveInterest. L evokes feelings in Light that he feels for no one else. L is the most important person in Light's life [[spoiler: even after he is dead. And in the anime L is the only person on Light's mind when he's ''dying.'']]
However even if Light has feelings for L he would never act on them because his crusade comes before anything else. If Light wants to be God of the New World L has to die. Simple as that. Though it's telling that '''''has to remind himself''''' of this after L invokes ThePowerOfLove and ThePowerOfFriendship against Kira with [[WordOfGod his lie]] of "I feel as if you are the first friend I've ever had." For a moment it almost seems to sway Light-he gets a very shocked look on his face and [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything in the anime the same music that played when Gelus died for love starts playing.]] (The only way to kill a Shinigami is to get it to fall in love with a human and as Ryuk joked earlier Light is "already a ''worthy'' Shinigami.") L doesn't have many other cards to play other than [[ManipulativeBastard emotional manipulation]]. He probably hopes to catch Light off-guard-if he gets Light riled up enough he might make a mistake so that L can catch him and have him executed. L certainly succeeds in getting under Light's skin as Light continues to obsess about L as he walks home up until he's [[TheGlomp glomped]] by Misa, sounding very much like a {{Tsundere}} all the way as he curses L's name (or rather his alias). Ryuk mocks this development in a very suggestive tone:
They are chained together for months. [[DeathGlare They stare at each other... a lot.]] L gives Light a symbolic foot massage... while they are both dripping wet and romantic music plays in the background.
L is Light's NotLoveInterest. L evokes feelings in Light that he feels for no one else. L is the most important person in Light's life [[spoiler: even after he is dead. And in the anime L is the only person on Light's mind when he's ''dying.'']]
However even if Light has feelings for L he would never act on them because his crusade comes before anything else. If Light wants to be God of the New World L has to die. Simple as that. Though it's telling that '''''has to remind himself''''' of this after L invokes ThePowerOfLove and ThePowerOfFriendship against Kira with [[WordOfGod his lie]] of "I feel as if you are the first friend I've ever had." For a moment it almost seems to sway Light-he gets a very shocked look on his face and [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything in the anime the same music that played when Gelus died for love starts playing.]] (The only way to kill a Shinigami is to get it to fall in love with a human and as Ryuk joked earlier Light is "already a ''worthy'' Shinigami.") L doesn't have many other cards to play other than [[ManipulativeBastard emotional manipulation]]. He probably hopes to catch Light off-guard-if he gets Light riled up enough he might make a mistake so that L can catch him and have him executed. L certainly succeeds in getting under Light's skin as Light continues to obsess about L as he walks home up until he's [[TheGlomp glomped]] by Misa, sounding very much like a {{Tsundere}} all the way as he curses L's name (or rather his alias). Ryuk mocks this development in a very suggestive tone:
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** Light (Kira) and L are [[FoeYay enemies and hate each other]] and yet there is so much HoYay it leads one to wonder if something else might be going on between them. (Unless you've welded on the AntiGoggles)
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** They are chained together for months. [[DeathGlare They stare at each other... a lot.]] L gives Light a symbolic foot massage... while they are both dripping wet and romantic music plays in the background. \n\n
** L is Light's NotLoveInterest. L evokes feelings in Light that he feels for no one else. L is the most important person in Light's life [[spoiler: even after he is dead. And in the anime L is the only person on Light's mind when he's ''dying.'']]
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** However even if Light has feelings for L he would never act on them because his crusade comes before anything else. If Light wants to be God of the New World L has to die. Simple as that. Though it's telling that '''''has to remind himself''''' of this after L invokes ThePowerOfLove and ThePowerOfFriendship against Kira with [[WordOfGod his lie]] of "I feel as if you are the first friend I've ever had." For a moment it almost seems to sway Light-he gets a very shocked look on his face and [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything in the anime the same music that played when Gelus died for love starts playing.]] (The only way to kill a Shinigami is to get it to fall in love with a human and as Ryuk joked earlier Light is "already a ''worthy'' Shinigami.") L doesn't have many other cards to play other than [[ManipulativeBastard emotional manipulation]]. He probably hopes to catch Light off-guard-if he gets Light riled up enough he might make a mistake so that L can catch him and have him executed. L certainly succeeds in getting under Light's skin as Light continues to obsess about L as he walks home up until he's [[TheGlomp glomped]] by Misa, sounding very much like a {{Tsundere}} all the way as he curses L's name (or rather his alias). Ryuk mocks this development in a very suggestive tone:
** They are chained together for months. [[DeathGlare They stare at each other... a lot.]] L gives Light a symbolic foot massage... while they are both dripping wet and romantic music plays in the background.
** L is Light's NotLoveInterest. L evokes feelings in Light that he feels for no one else. L is the most important person in Light's life [[spoiler: even after he is dead. And in the anime L is the only person on Light's mind when he's ''dying.
** However even if Light has feelings for L he would never act on them because his crusade comes before anything else. If Light wants to be God of the New World L has to die. Simple as that. Though it's telling that '''''has to remind himself''''' of this after L invokes ThePowerOfLove and ThePowerOfFriendship against Kira with [[WordOfGod his lie]] of "I feel as if you are the first friend I've ever had." For a moment it almost seems to sway Light-he gets a very shocked look on his face and [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything in the anime the same music that played when Gelus died for love starts playing.]] (The only way to kill a Shinigami is to get it to fall in love with a human and as Ryuk joked earlier Light is "already a ''worthy'' Shinigami.") L doesn't have many other cards to play other than [[ManipulativeBastard emotional manipulation]]. He probably hopes to catch Light off-guard-if he gets Light riled up enough he might make a mistake so that L can catch him and have him executed. L certainly succeeds in getting under Light's skin as Light continues to obsess about L as he walks home up until he's [[TheGlomp glomped]] by Misa, sounding very much like a {{Tsundere}} all the way as he curses L's name (or rather his alias). Ryuk mocks this development in a very suggestive tone:
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Later Light has to remind himself that L is NOT his friend. "Light Yagami and "Hideki Ryuuga" ''appear'' to be friends but L is Kira's enemy."
Also during the Yotsuba arc [[spoiler: when Light has lost his Kira memories and the knowledge that L is his enemy, you'd still think he'd be a bit upset with L for confining him for 50 days and making his father carry out a mock execution, yet when L ends their confinement]] [[EasilyForgiven Light seems not to hold any grudge against L]] for [[spoiler: locking him up]] and indeed seems quite thrilled about the idea of being with L 24/7.
It is interesting to note [[spoiler: when L is dying]] Light gets teary-eyed about it for about two seconds before displaying that memetic rape face.
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** Also during the Yotsuba arc [[spoiler: when Light has lost his Kira memories and the knowledge that L is his enemy, you'd still think he'd be a bit upset with L for confining him for 50 days and making his father carry out a mock execution, yet when L ends their confinement]] [[EasilyForgiven Light seems not to hold any grudge against L]] for [[spoiler: locking him up]] and indeed seems quite thrilled about the idea of being with L 24/7.
** It is interesting to note [[spoiler: when L is dying]] Light gets teary-eyed about it for about two seconds before displaying that memetic rape face.
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Also during the Yotsuba arc [[spoiler: when Light has lost his Kira memories and the knowledge that L is his enemy, you'd still think he'd be a bit upset with L for confining him for 50 days yet when L ends their confinement]] [[EasilyForgiven Light seems not to hold any grudge against L]] for [[spoiler: locking him up]] and indeed seems quite thrilled about the idea of being with L 24/7.
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Also during the Yotsuba arc [[spoiler: when Light has lost his Kira memories and the knowledge that L is his enemy, you'd still think he'd be a bit upset with L for confining him for 50 days and making his father carry out a mock execution, yet when L ends their confinement]] [[EasilyForgiven Light seems not to hold any grudge against L]] for [[spoiler: locking him up]] and indeed seems quite thrilled about the idea of being with L 24/7.
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Also during the Yotsuba arc [[spoiler: when Light has lost his Kira memories and the knowledge that L is his enemy, you'd still think he'd be a bit upset with L for confining him for 50 days ye when L ends their confinement]] [[EasilyForgiven Light seems not to hold any grudge against L]] for [[spoiler: locking him up]] and indeed seems quite thrilled about the idea of being with L 24/7.
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Also during the Yotsuba arc [[spoiler: when Light has lost his Kira memories and the knowledge that L is his enemy, you'd still think he'd be a bit upset with L for confining him for 50 days ye yet when L ends their confinement]] [[EasilyForgiven Light seems not to hold any grudge against L]] for [[spoiler: locking him up]] and indeed seems quite thrilled about the idea of being with L 24/7.
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Also during the Yotsuba arc [[spoiler: when Light has lost his Kira memories and the knowledge that L is his enemy, you'd still think he'd be a bit upset with L for confining him for 50 days ye when L ends their confinement]] [[EasilyForgiven Light seems not to hold any grudge against L]] for [[spoiler: locking him up]] and indeed seems quite thrilled about the idea of being with L 24/7.
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However even if Light has feelings for L he would never act on them because his crusade comes before anything else. If Light wants to be God of the New World L has to die. Simple as that. Though it's telling that '''''has to remind himself''''' of this after L invokes ThePowerOfLove and ThePowerOfFriendship against Kira with [[WordOfGod his lie]] of "I feel as if you are the first friend I've ever had." For a moment it almost seems to sway him-Light gets a very shocked look on his face and [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything in the anime the same music that played when Gelus died for love starts playing.]] (The only way to kill a Shinigami is to get it to fall in love with a human and as Ryuk joked earlier Light is "already a ''worthy'' Shinigami.") L doesn't have many other cards to play other than [[ManipulativeBastard emotional manipulation]]. He probably hopes to catch Light off-guard-if he gets Light riled up enough he might make a mistake so that L can catch him and have him executed. L certainly succeeds in getting under Light's skin as Light continues to obsess about L as he walks home up until he's [[TheGlomp glomped]] by Misa, sounding very much like a {{Tsundere}} all the way as he curses L's name (or rather his alias). Ryuk mocks this development in a very suggestive tone:
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However even if Light has feelings for L he would never act on them because his crusade comes before anything else. If Light wants to be God of the New World L has to die. Simple as that. Though it's telling that '''''has to remind himself''''' of this after L invokes ThePowerOfLove and ThePowerOfFriendship against Kira with [[WordOfGod his lie]] of "I feel as if you are the first friend I've ever had." For a moment it almost seems to sway him-Light Light-he gets a very shocked look on his face and [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything in the anime the same music that played when Gelus died for love starts playing.]] (The only way to kill a Shinigami is to get it to fall in love with a human and as Ryuk joked earlier Light is "already a ''worthy'' Shinigami.") L doesn't have many other cards to play other than [[ManipulativeBastard emotional manipulation]]. He probably hopes to catch Light off-guard-if he gets Light riled up enough he might make a mistake so that L can catch him and have him executed. L certainly succeeds in getting under Light's skin as Light continues to obsess about L as he walks home up until he's [[TheGlomp glomped]] by Misa, sounding very much like a {{Tsundere}} all the way as he curses L's name (or rather his alias). Ryuk mocks this development in a very suggestive tone:
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However even if Light has feelings for L he would never act on them because his crusade comes before anything else. If Light wants to be God of the New World L has to die. Simple as that. Though it's telling that '''''has to remind himself''''' of this after L invokes ThePowerOfLove and ThePowerOfFriendship against Kira with [[WordOfGod his lie]] of "I feel as if you are the first friend I've ever had." For a moment it almost seems to sway him-Light gets a very shocked look on his face and [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything in the anime the same music that played when Gelus died for love starts playing.]] (The only way to kill a Shinigami is to get it to fall in love with a human and as Ryuk joked earlier Light is "already a ''worthy'' Shinigami.") L doesn't have many other cards to play other than [[ManipulativeBastard emotional manipulation]]. He probably hopes to catch Light off-guard-if he gets Light riled up he might make a mistake and L can have him executed. L certainly succeeds in getting under Light's skin as Light continues to obsess about L as he walks home up until he's [[TheGlomp glomped]] by Misa, sounding very much like a {{Tsundere}} all the way as he curses L's name (or rather his alias). Ryuk mocks this development in a very suggestive tone:
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However even if Light has feelings for L he would never act on them because his crusade comes before anything else. If Light wants to be God of the New World L has to die. Simple as that. Though it's telling that '''''has to remind himself''''' of this after L invokes ThePowerOfLove and ThePowerOfFriendship against Kira with [[WordOfGod his lie]] of "I feel as if you are the first friend I've ever had." For a moment it almost seems to sway him-Light gets a very shocked look on his face and [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything in the anime the same music that played when Gelus died for love starts playing.]] (The only way to kill a Shinigami is to get it to fall in love with a human and as Ryuk joked earlier Light is "already a ''worthy'' Shinigami.") L doesn't have many other cards to play other than [[ManipulativeBastard emotional manipulation]]. He probably hopes to catch Light off-guard-if he gets Light riled up enough he might make a mistake and so that L can catch him and have him executed. L certainly succeeds in getting under Light's skin as Light continues to obsess about L as he walks home up until he's [[TheGlomp glomped]] by Misa, sounding very much like a {{Tsundere}} all the way as he curses L's name (or rather his alias). Ryuk mocks this development in a very suggestive tone:
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However even if Light has feelings for L he would never act on them because his crusade comes before anything else. If Light wants to be God of the New World L has to die. Simple as that. Though it's telling that '''''has to remind himself''''' of this after L invokes ThePowerOfLove and ThePowerOfFriendship against Kira with [[WordOfGod his lie]] of "I feel as if you are the first friend I've ever had." For a moment it almost seems to sway him-Light gets a very shocked look on his face and [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything in the anime the same music that played when Gelus died for love starts playing.]] (The only way to kill a Shinigami is to get it to fall in love with a human and as Ryuk joked earlier Light is "already a ''worthy'' Shinigami.") L doesn't have many other cards to play other than emotional manipulation. He probably hopes to catch Light off-guard-if he gets Light riled up he might make a mistake and L can have him executed. L certainly succeeds in getting under Light's skin as Light continues to obsess about L as he walks home up until he's [[TheGlomp glomped]] by Misa, sounding very much like a {{Tsundere}} all the way as he curses L's name (or rather his alias). Ryuk mocks this development in a very suggestive tone:
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However even if Light has feelings for L he would never act on them because his crusade comes before anything else. If Light wants to be God of the New World L has to die. Simple as that. Though it's telling that '''''has to remind himself''''' of this after L invokes ThePowerOfLove and ThePowerOfFriendship against Kira with [[WordOfGod his lie]] of "I feel as if you are the first friend I've ever had." For a moment it almost seems to sway him-Light gets a very shocked look on his face and [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything in the anime the same music that played when Gelus died for love starts playing.]] (The only way to kill a Shinigami is to get it to fall in love with a human and as Ryuk joked earlier Light is "already a ''worthy'' Shinigami.") L doesn't have many other cards to play other than [[ManipulativeBastard emotional manipulation.manipulation]]. He probably hopes to catch Light off-guard-if he gets Light riled up he might make a mistake and L can have him executed. L certainly succeeds in getting under Light's skin as Light continues to obsess about L as he walks home up until he's [[TheGlomp glomped]] by Misa, sounding very much like a {{Tsundere}} all the way as he curses L's name (or rather his alias). Ryuk mocks this development in a very suggestive tone:
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However even if Light has feelings for L he would never act on them because his crusade comes before anything else. If Light wants to be God of the New World L has to die. Simple as that. Though it's telling that '''''has to remind himself''''' of this after L invokes ThePowerOfLove/ThePowerOfFriendship against him with [[WordOfGod his lie]] of "I feel as if you are the first friend I've ever had." For a moment it almost seems to sway him-Light gets a very shocked look on his face and [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything in the anime the same music that played when Gelus died for love starts playing.]] (The only way to kill a Shinigami is to get it to fall in love with a human and as Ryuk joked earlier Light is "already a ''worthy'' Shinigami.") L doesn't have many other cards to play other than emotional manipulation. He probably hopes to catch Light off-guard-if he gets Light riled up he might make a mistake and L can have him executed. L certainly succeeds in getting under Light's skin as Light continues to obsess about L as he walks home up until he's [[TheGlomp glomped]] by Misa, sounding very much like a {{Tsundere}} all the way as he curses L's name (or rather his alias). Ryuk mocks this development in a very suggestive tone:
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However even if Light has feelings for L he would never act on them because his crusade comes before anything else. If Light wants to be God of the New World L has to die. Simple as that. Though it's telling that '''''has to remind himself''''' of this after L invokes ThePowerOfLove/ThePowerOfFriendship ThePowerOfLove and ThePowerOfFriendship against him Kira with [[WordOfGod his lie]] of "I feel as if you are the first friend I've ever had." For a moment it almost seems to sway him-Light gets a very shocked look on his face and [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything in the anime the same music that played when Gelus died for love starts playing.]] (The only way to kill a Shinigami is to get it to fall in love with a human and as Ryuk joked earlier Light is "already a ''worthy'' Shinigami.") L doesn't have many other cards to play other than emotional manipulation. He probably hopes to catch Light off-guard-if he gets Light riled up he might make a mistake and L can have him executed. L certainly succeeds in getting under Light's skin as Light continues to obsess about L as he walks home up until he's [[TheGlomp glomped]] by Misa, sounding very much like a {{Tsundere}} all the way as he curses L's name (or rather his alias). Ryuk mocks this development in a very suggestive tone:
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However even if Light has feelings for L he would never act on them because his crusade comes before anything else. If Light wants to be God of the New World L has to die. Simple as that. Though it's telling that '''''has to remind himself''''' of this after L invokes ThePowerOfLove/ThePowerOfFriendship against him with [[WordOfGod his lie]] of "I feel as if you are the first friend I've ever had." For a moment it almost seems to sway him-Light gets a very shocked look on his face and [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything in the anime the same music that played when Gelus died for love starts playing.]] (The only way to kill a Shinigami is to get it to fall in love with a human and as Ryuk joked earlier Light is "already a ''worthy'' Shinigami.") L doesn't have many other cards to play other than emotional manipulation. He probably hopes to catch Light off-guard-if he gets Light riled up he might make a mistake and L can have him executed. L certainly succeeds in getting under Light's skin as Light continues to obsess about L as he walks home up until he's [[TheGlomp glomped]] by Misa, sounding very much like a {{Tsundere}} all the way as he curses L's name. Ryuk mocks this development in a very suggestive tone:
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However even if Light has feelings for L he would never act on them because his crusade comes before anything else. If Light wants to be God of the New World L has to die. Simple as that. Though it's telling that '''''has to remind himself''''' of this after L invokes ThePowerOfLove/ThePowerOfFriendship against him with [[WordOfGod his lie]] of "I feel as if you are the first friend I've ever had." For a moment it almost seems to sway him-Light gets a very shocked look on his face and [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything in the anime the same music that played when Gelus died for love starts playing.]] (The only way to kill a Shinigami is to get it to fall in love with a human and as Ryuk joked earlier Light is "already a ''worthy'' Shinigami.") L doesn't have many other cards to play other than emotional manipulation. He probably hopes to catch Light off-guard-if he gets Light riled up he might make a mistake and L can have him executed. L certainly succeeds in getting under Light's skin as Light continues to obsess about L as he walks home up until he's [[TheGlomp glomped]] by Misa, sounding very much like a {{Tsundere}} all the way as he curses L's name.name (or rather his alias). Ryuk mocks this development in a very suggestive tone:
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However even if Light has feelings for L he would never act on them because his crusade comes before anything else. If Light wants to be God of the New World L has to die. Simple as that. Though it's telling that '''''has to remind himself''''' of this after L invokes ThePowerOfLove/ThePowerOfFriendship against him with [[WordOfGod his lie]] of "I feel as if you are the first friend I've ever had." For a moment it almost seems to sway him-Light gets a very shocked look on his face and [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything in the anime the same music that played when Gelus died for love starts playing.]] The only way to kill a Shinigami is to get it to fall in love with a human and as Ryuk joked earlier Light is "already a ''worthy'' Shinigami." Later Light has to remind himself that L is NOT his friend. "Light Yagami and "Hideki Ryuuga" ''appear'' to be friends but L is Kira's enemy."
It's interesting to note [[spoiler: when L is dying]] Light gets teary-eyed about it for about two seconds before displaying that memetic rape face.
It's interesting to note [[spoiler: when L is dying]] Light gets teary-eyed about it for about two seconds before displaying that memetic rape face.
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However even if Light has feelings for L he would never act on them because his crusade comes before anything else. If Light wants to be God of the New World L has to die. Simple as that. Though it's telling that '''''has to remind himself''''' of this after L invokes ThePowerOfLove/ThePowerOfFriendship against him with [[WordOfGod his lie]] of "I feel as if you are the first friend I've ever had." For a moment it almost seems to sway him-Light gets a very shocked look on his face and [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything in the anime the same music that played when Gelus died for love starts playing.]] The (The only way to kill a Shinigami is to get it to fall in love with a human and as Ryuk joked earlier Light is "already a ''worthy'' Shinigami." ") L doesn't have many other cards to play other than emotional manipulation. He probably hopes to catch Light off-guard-if he gets Light riled up he might make a mistake and L can have him executed. L certainly succeeds in getting under Light's skin as Light continues to obsess about L as he walks home up until he's [[TheGlomp glomped]] by Misa, sounding very much like a {{Tsundere}} all the way as he curses L's name. Ryuk mocks this development in a very suggestive tone:
-->'''Light:''' That ''DAMN'' Ryuuzaki!
-->'''Ryuk:''' Friend. *snicker* He's your '''''friend'''''. But that's a ''good thing'', isn't it, Light?
Yeah, that ''DAMN'' Ryuuzaki, saying he's my friend. It's not like I like you or anything!
Later Light has to remind himself that L is NOT his friend. "Light Yagami and "Hideki Ryuuga" ''appear'' to be friends but L is Kira's enemy."
It's It is interesting to note [[spoiler: when L is dying]] Light gets teary-eyed about it for about two seconds before displaying that memetic rape face.
-->'''Light:''' That ''DAMN'' Ryuuzaki!
-->'''Ryuk:''' Friend. *snicker* He's your '''''friend'''''. But that's a ''good thing'', isn't it, Light?
Yeah, that ''DAMN'' Ryuuzaki, saying he's my friend. It's not like I like you or anything!
Later Light has to remind himself that L is NOT his friend. "Light Yagami and "Hideki Ryuuga" ''appear'' to be friends but L is Kira's enemy."
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However even if Light has feelings for L he would never act on them because his crusade comes before anything else. If Light wants to be God of the New World L has to die. Simple as that. Though it's interesting to note [[spoiler: when L is dying]] Light gets teary-eyed about it for about two seconds before displaying that memetic rape face.
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However even if Light has feelings for L he would never act on them because his crusade comes before anything else. If Light wants to be God of the New World L has to die. Simple as that. Though it's telling that '''''has to remind himself''''' of this after L invokes ThePowerOfLove/ThePowerOfFriendship against him with [[WordOfGod his lie]] of "I feel as if you are the first friend I've ever had." For a moment it almost seems to sway him-Light gets a very shocked look on his face and [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything in the anime the same music that played when Gelus died for love starts playing.]] The only way to kill a Shinigami is to get it to fall in love with a human and as Ryuk joked earlier Light is "already a ''worthy'' Shinigami." Later Light has to remind himself that L is NOT his friend. "Light Yagami and "Hideki Ryuuga" ''appear'' to be friends but L is Kira's enemy."
It's interesting to note [[spoiler: when L is dying]] Light gets teary-eyed about it for about two seconds before displaying that memetic rape face.
It's interesting to note [[spoiler: when L is dying]] Light gets teary-eyed about it for about two seconds before displaying that memetic rape face.
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* Light is unable to see any flaw in himself, which is the main thing that separates him from L and what devoids him of any empathy. It is probably the fact that L is NotSoDifferent that mekes him consider him a WorthyOpponent. Light usually sees positive traits in L ("L will probably figure out this", "L is too smart to fall for that") because those are positive traits he sees in himself. L on the other hand is pretty aware of his own flaws, he immediately assumes Kira is childish and hates losing because L himself is like that, and admits that even if Misa had carried on with her threat of the police to make them expose L, he wouldn't have appeared on tv because he isn't that noble. This is reflected upon each's plans for the world, Light believes in a perfect world filled exclusivelly with good, respectful, working people, where everything is perfect just like him. L, and later Near, see the world as flawed and seem pretty ok with it, since they're pretty ok with their own flaws. Ironically, is the awareness of their own flaws what keeps them in the gray of the BlackAndGrayMorality while Light's vission of himself as perfect is what leads him to become a CompleteMonster.
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* Light is unable to see any flaw in himself, which is the main thing that separates him from L and what devoids him of any empathy. It is probably the fact that L is NotSoDifferent that mekes him consider him a WorthyOpponent. Light usually sees positive traits in L ("L will probably figure out this", "L is too smart to fall for that") because those are positive traits he sees in himself. L on the other hand is pretty aware of his own flaws, he immediately assumes Kira is childish and hates losing because L himself is like that, and admits that even if Misa had carried on with her threat of the police to make them expose L, he wouldn't have appeared on tv because he isn't that noble. This is reflected upon each's plans for the world, Light believes in a perfect world filled exclusivelly with good, respectful, working people, where everything is perfect just like him. L, and later Near, see the world as flawed and seem pretty ok with it, since they're pretty ok with their own flaws. Ironically, is the awareness of their own flaws what keeps them in the gray of the BlackAndGrayMorality while Light's vission vision of himself as perfect is what leads him to become a CompleteMonster.
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* Light has a grandiose sense of self-importance, viewing himself as special and unique (chosen to rid the world of evil), as someone who will become the God of the New World. Going on with this, he frequently indulges in fantasies of unlimited success an power (Godhood).
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* Light has a grandiose sense of self-importance, viewing himself as special and unique (chosen to rid the world of evil), as someone who will become the God of the New World. Going on with this, he frequently indulges in fantasies of unlimited success an and power (Godhood).
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* Light is unable to see any flaw in himself, wich is the main thing that separates him from L and what devoids him of any empathy. It is probably the fact that L is NotSoDifferent that mekes him consider him a WhortyOpponent. Light usually sees positive traits in L ("L will probably figure out this", "L is too smart to fall for that") because those are positive traits he sees in himself. L on the other hand is pretty aware of his own flaws, he immediately assumes Kira is childish and hates losing because L himself is like that, and admits that even if Misa had carried on with her threat of the police to make them expose L, he wouldn't have appeared on tv because he isn't that noble. This is reflected upon each's plans for the world, Light believes in a perfect world filled exclusivelly with good, respectful, working people, where everything is perfect just like him. L, and later Near, see the world as flawed and seem pretty ok with it, since they're pretty ok with their own flaws. Ironically, is the awareness of their own flaws what keeps them in the gray of the BlackAndGrayMorality while Light's vission of himself as perfect is what leads him to become a CompleteMonster
''DeathNote'' is a deconstruction of Shonen tropes.
''DeathNote'' is a deconstruction of Shonen tropes.
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* Light is unable to see any flaw in himself, wich which is the main thing that separates him from L and what devoids him of any empathy. It is probably the fact that L is NotSoDifferent that mekes him consider him a WhortyOpponent.WorthyOpponent. Light usually sees positive traits in L ("L will probably figure out this", "L is too smart to fall for that") because those are positive traits he sees in himself. L on the other hand is pretty aware of his own flaws, he immediately assumes Kira is childish and hates losing because L himself is like that, and admits that even if Misa had carried on with her threat of the police to make them expose L, he wouldn't have appeared on tv because he isn't that noble. This is reflected upon each's plans for the world, Light believes in a perfect world filled exclusivelly with good, respectful, working people, where everything is perfect just like him. L, and later Near, see the world as flawed and seem pretty ok with it, since they're pretty ok with their own flaws. Ironically, is the awareness of their own flaws what keeps them in the gray of the BlackAndGrayMorality while Light's vission of himself as perfect is what leads him to become a CompleteMonster
CompleteMonster.
!! ''DeathNote'' is a deconstruction of Shonen tropes.
!! ''DeathNote'' is a deconstruction of Shonen tropes.
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!!''DeathNote'' is a deconstruction of Shonen tropes.
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''DeathNote'' is a deconstruction of Shonen tropes.
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Want to write the next DeathNote? Try SoYouWantTo/WriteAMagnificentBastard
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Want to write the next DeathNote? Try SoYouWantTo/WriteAMagnificentBastard
[[SoYouWantTo/WriteAMagnificentBastard So You Want To Write A Magnificent Bastard]]
