History AlternativeCharacterInterpretation / ComicBooks

24th May '16 11:59:28 PM Anicomicgeek
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** Related to these, [[spoiler: whether or not Calendar Man really did know anything about the murders or was just blowing smoke out of his ass to keep from being overshadowed. As the link in the third interpretation, he was already switching the gender pronouns around ''before'' the possible change in killers happened.]]

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** Related to these, [[spoiler: whether or not Calendar Man really did know anything about the murders or was just blowing smoke out of his ass to keep from being overshadowed. As the link in the third interpretation, interpretation mentions, he was already switching the gender pronouns around ''before'' the possible change in killers happened.]]
17th May '16 8:34:50 PM Westbrook
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*** A big problem with this interpretation is it fails to take into account that the League were the instigators and provokators. Matthew Patel has usually been seen with a rather unsettling, possibly manic look in his eyes (even back as a middle schooler) and we know little else besides his ''mystic'' powers. Lucas Lee was admittingly pretty decent (although he was a Jerkass in the film) who's only problem was not letting Ramona go (that and probably overreacting to being called a 'sell-out'.) Todd Ingram is a bit complicated in that while he had a good relationship with Envy, he was cheating on her with the drummer (before he undergoes a VillanousBreakdown). Roxie seemed like a decent individual, but still participate and didn't hesitate to ''slice a bus''. The twins weren't exactly pleasant and their robots caused Scott some trouble before they performed successful kidnapping on Kim Pine. Gideon seemed like a crazier modern version of Charles Kane. Also, Pattel and the twins (least in the books) were not famous at all. Regardless, they still chose to attack first and could be prosecuted with multiple crimes while Scott was protecting himself and his friends.

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*** A big problem with this interpretation is it fails to take into account that the League were the instigators and provokators.provocateurs. Matthew Patel has usually been seen with a rather unsettling, possibly manic look in his eyes (even back as a middle schooler) and we know little else besides his ''mystic'' powers. Lucas Lee was admittingly pretty decent (although he was a Jerkass in the film) who's only problem was not letting Ramona go (that and probably overreacting to being called a 'sell-out'.) Todd Ingram is a bit complicated in that while he had a good relationship with Envy, he was cheating on her with the drummer (before he undergoes a VillanousBreakdown). Roxie seemed like a decent individual, but still participate and didn't hesitate to ''slice a bus''. The twins weren't exactly pleasant and their robots caused Scott some trouble before they performed successful kidnapping on Kim Pine. Gideon seemed like a crazier modern version of Charles Kane. Also, Pattel and the twins (least in the books) were not famous at all. Regardless, they still chose to attack first and could be prosecuted with multiple crimes while Scott was protecting himself and his friends.
6th Apr '16 2:36:57 AM Anicomicgeek
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** [[spoiler: Gilda snapped from Harvey's transformation into Two-Face and became delusional and thinking she started the Holiday murders and the truth is Alberto really ''did'' commit all the murders.]] [[http://graphicontent.blogspot.com/2005/02/who-was-holiday.html People who support this theory point out]] [[spoiler: there's no switch in M.O., which given Batman is doing forensic tests in one issue, would been noticeable, and there aren't two murders on New Year's, which should've happened if Gilda quit, and someone else picked it up and Alberto would have no idea about another murder. Additionally, Gilda was in ICU during the Thanksgiving murder and a wheelchair in Christmas and the murders on Mother's Day, Independence Day, and Carmine Falcone's birthday were about covering up Holiday's identity, and even Alberto had motives the early murders as they're all people who'd turned on his father or could turn and/or failed him. Also, despite Gilda saying she'd read Harvey's files, she reacts with surprise that he brought his files home with him.]]

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** [[spoiler: Gilda snapped from Harvey's transformation into Two-Face and became delusional and thinking she started the Holiday murders and the truth is Alberto really ''did'' commit all the murders.]] [[http://graphicontent.blogspot.com/2005/02/who-was-holiday.html People who support this theory point out]] [[spoiler: there's no switch in M.O., which given Batman is doing forensic tests in one issue, would been noticeable, and there aren't two murders on New Year's, which should've happened if Gilda quit, and someone else picked it up and Alberto would have no idea about another murder. Additionally, Gilda was in ICU during the Thanksgiving murder and a wheelchair in Christmas and the murders on Mother's Day, Independence Day, and Carmine Falcone's birthday were about covering up Holiday's identity, and even Alberto had motives the early murders as they're all people who'd turned on his father or could turn turn, and/or failed him. Also, despite Gilda saying she'd read Harvey's files, she reacts with surprise that he brought his files home with him.]]
6th Apr '16 2:34:10 AM Anicomicgeek
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* The Franchise/{{Batman}} ''ComicBook/TheLongHalloween'' has four interpretations regarding [[spoiler: Gilda Dent's confession]] about committing the first Holiday murders:
** [[spoiler: As Gilda believed, she committed the first murders, then--as she believes--a pre-Two-Face Harvey Dent committed the others until Labor Day, when Alberto Falcone, who publicly took credit for the murders killed Sal Maroni.]]
** [[spoiler: Gilda committed the first murders, but starting with Alberto faking his own death on New Year's Day, he reapportioned the identity for himself and committed the other murders. Gilda stated she's read Harvey's files to get an idea of how to cover up her tracks.]] As this points out, [[spoiler: having Harvey commit the other murders takes away from his fall from grace and transformation into Two-Face.]]
** [[spoiler: Gilda snapped from Harvey's transformation into Two-Face and became delusional and thinking she started the Holiday murders and the truth is Alberto really ''did'' commit all the murders.]] [[http://graphicontent.blogspot.com/2005/02/who-was-holiday.html People who support this theory point out]] [[spoiler: there's no switch in M.O., which given Batman is doing forensic tests in one issue, would been noticeable, and there aren't two murders on New Year's, which should've happened if Gilda quit and someone else picked it up and Alberto would have no idea about another murder. Additionally, Gilda was in ICU during the Thanksgiving murder and a wheelchair in Christmas and the murders on Mother's Day, Independence Day, and Carmine Falcone's birthday were about covering up Holiday's identity, and even Alberto had motive the early murders as they're all people who'd turned on his father or could turn and/or failed his father. Also, despite Gilda saying she'd read Harvey's files, she reacts with surprise that he brought his files home with him.]]
** [[spoiler: Gilda, Harvey, ''and'' Alberto committed some of the murders each other.]]

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* The Franchise/{{Batman}} miniseries, ''ComicBook/TheLongHalloween'' has four interpretations regarding [[spoiler: Gilda Dent's confession]] about committing the first Holiday murders:
** [[spoiler: As Gilda believed, she committed the first murders, then--as she believes--a pre-Two-Face Harvey Dent committed the others until Labor Day, when Alberto Falcone, who publicly took credit for the murders murders, killed Sal Maroni.]]
** [[spoiler: Gilda committed the first murders, but starting with Alberto faking his own death on New Year's Day, he reapportioned the identity for himself and committed the other murders. Gilda stated she's read Harvey's files to get an idea of how to cover up her tracks.]] As [[http://overthinking-things.blogspot.com/2012/05/note-if-you-havent-read-long-halloween.html this points out, out]], [[spoiler: having Harvey commit the other murders takes away from his fall from grace and transformation into Two-Face.]]
** [[spoiler: Gilda snapped from Harvey's transformation into Two-Face and became delusional and thinking she started the Holiday murders and the truth is Alberto really ''did'' commit all the murders.]] [[http://graphicontent.blogspot.com/2005/02/who-was-holiday.html People who support this theory point out]] [[spoiler: there's no switch in M.O., which given Batman is doing forensic tests in one issue, would been noticeable, and there aren't two murders on New Year's, which should've happened if Gilda quit quit, and someone else picked it up and Alberto would have no idea about another murder. murder. Additionally, Gilda was in ICU during the Thanksgiving murder and a wheelchair in Christmas and the murders on Mother's Day, Independence Day, and Carmine Falcone's birthday were about covering up Holiday's identity, and even Alberto had motive motives the early murders as they're all people who'd turned on his father or could turn and/or failed his father.him. Also, despite Gilda saying she'd read Harvey's files, she reacts with surprise that he brought his files home with him.]]
** [[spoiler: Gilda, Harvey, ''and'' Alberto committed some of the murders each other.each.]]
21st Mar '16 4:12:20 PM Pichu-kun
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** Jughead has been interpreted as {{asexual}} by many, or as being in love with Archie but hiding it. The latter got especially popular when Kevin appeared and he and Jughead got along easy.

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** Jughead has been interpreted as {{asexual}} by many, or as being in love with Archie but hiding it. The latter got especially popular when Kevin appeared and he and Jughead got along easy. Him being is AscendedFanon as of the ''ComicBook/ArchieComics2015'' reboot.
16th Jan '16 10:29:57 PM nombretomado
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* ''Blog/TheComicsCurmudgeon'' loves playing this trope with print comics characters. For example, Marmaduke is a carnivorous hellhound, ComcStrip/MaryWorth is a meddlesome she-devil, ComicStrip/BeetleBailey is [[HoYay in love with Sgt. Snorkel]], and TheFamilyCircus is a bunch of fundamentalist {{Stepford Smiler}}s.

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* ''Blog/TheComicsCurmudgeon'' loves playing this trope with print comics characters. For example, Marmaduke is a carnivorous hellhound, ComcStrip/MaryWorth is a meddlesome she-devil, ComicStrip/BeetleBailey is [[HoYay in love with Sgt. Snorkel]], and TheFamilyCircus ComicStrip/TheFamilyCircus is a bunch of fundamentalist {{Stepford Smiler}}s.
5th Jan '16 2:08:20 PM margdean56
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*** Through they all have one thing in common - in all the stories told Batman dies because he refuses (or maybe cannot?) give up. [[spoiler: When he finally dies for real, he is reborn on another Earth, as infant Bruce Wayne, to one day become Batman once again.]]

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*** Through they all have one thing in common - in all the stories told Batman dies because he refuses to (or maybe cannot?) give up. [[spoiler: When he finally dies for real, he is reborn on another Earth, as infant Bruce Wayne, to one day become Batman once again.]]



** And now, after Colossus had become new Juggernaut, new alternate interpretation surfaced - that he has a self-destructive messiah complex that forces him to always bear all the pain and suffering there is to bear.
* Is ComicBook/{{Cyclops}} just a wuss who's occupying space until [[SpotlightStealingSquad Wolverine can save the day]], or is he the MarvelComics equivalent of Franchise/{{Batman}} with EyeBeams? Is his behavior since Creator/JossWhedon's run a case of finally getting rid of BadassDecay and living up the the reputation of leader he was supposed to be or did he simply TookALevelInJerkass? In a post AVX Marvel world, is he a tarnished hero seeking redemption, or just a big damn bigot who doesn't care who he hurts anymore?

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** And now, after Colossus had has become the new Juggernaut, a new alternate interpretation surfaced - that he has a self-destructive messiah complex that forces him to always bear all the pain and suffering there is to bear.
* Is ComicBook/{{Cyclops}} just a wuss who's occupying space until [[SpotlightStealingSquad Wolverine can save the day]], or is he the MarvelComics equivalent of Franchise/{{Batman}} with EyeBeams? Is his behavior since Creator/JossWhedon's run a case of finally getting rid of BadassDecay and living up the the reputation of leader he was supposed to be or did he simply TookALevelInJerkass? [[TookALevelInJerkass take a level in jerkass]]? In a post AVX Marvel world, is he a tarnished hero seeking redemption, or just a big damn bigot who doesn't care who he hurts anymore?



** Or maybye, as ''Uncanny ComicBook/XForce X-Force'' writer Rick Remender suggest, Wade is a SadClown who just wants to be loved?

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** Or maybye, as ''Uncanny ComicBook/XForce X-Force'' writer Rick Remender suggest, suggests, Wade is a SadClown who just wants to be loved?



* ''ComicBook/DoctorStrange'' during his time as a surgeon is always shown as the biggest, most selfish jerk possible. But Creator/BrianKVaughan's ''the Oath'' miniseries implied that maybe he was this way, because he couldn't cope with innability to save everybody and instead of getting emotionaly invested, he had choosen to distance himself from his patients, becoming greedy, uncaring jerk in the process.
** As it was [[http://sequart.org/magazine/17492/on-the-profoundly-rational-doctor-stephen-strange/ pointed out]] during his initial adventures Strange might have been the most rational of all Marvel superheroes, lacking irresponsibility constantly shown by Reed Richards and Bruce Banner during those days and not sending kids to fight his war, like Charles Xavier.

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* ''ComicBook/DoctorStrange'' during his time as a surgeon is always shown as the biggest, most selfish jerk possible. But Creator/BrianKVaughan's ''the Oath'' miniseries implied that maybe he was this way, way because he couldn't cope with innability his inability to save everybody everybody, and instead of getting emotionaly emotionally invested, he had choosen chosen to distance himself from his patients, becoming a greedy, uncaring jerk in the process.
** As it was [[http://sequart.org/magazine/17492/on-the-profoundly-rational-doctor-stephen-strange/ pointed out]] during his initial adventures Strange might have been the most rational of all Marvel superheroes, lacking the irresponsibility constantly shown by Reed Richards and Bruce Banner during those days and not sending kids to fight his war, like Charles Xavier.



** Is Reed Richards really such an arrogant, aloof guy. Or is he so superintelligent that he can't relate to other people. Or is he overcompensating for the guilt he still feels over getting his family transformed into freaks. Or, as suggested by Creator/GrantMorrison, does he have Asperger's syndrome?

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** Is Reed Richards really such an arrogant, aloof guy. guy? Or is he so superintelligent that he can't relate to other people. people? Or is he overcompensating for the guilt he still feels over getting his family transformed into freaks. freaks? Or, as suggested by Creator/GrantMorrison, does he have Asperger's syndrome?
30th Dec '15 2:10:05 PM Anddrix
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* SelfDemonstrating/LexLuthor: Pure evil? A hero striving to show the human race that it has some worth when set against the impossible, unreachable ideal that is Superman, rejecting no act that would prove his point as worth it to the greater good? A tragic figure who's actions are ruled by obsession based in deep insecurities unearthed by Superman's mere presence? A titan of industry and politics driven mad by a world that truly can't appreciate his genius nor see the threat Superman poses? A petty dick who'll stoop to any level of crime, including stealing forty cakes, which is as many as four tens AndThatsTerrible?

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* SelfDemonstrating/LexLuthor: ComicBook/LexLuthor: Pure evil? A hero striving to show the human race that it has some worth when set against the impossible, unreachable ideal that is Superman, rejecting no act that would prove his point as worth it to the greater good? A tragic figure who's actions are ruled by obsession based in deep insecurities unearthed by Superman's mere presence? A titan of industry and politics driven mad by a world that truly can't appreciate his genius nor see the threat Superman poses? A petty dick who'll stoop to any level of crime, including stealing forty cakes, which is as many as four tens AndThatsTerrible?
29th Dec '15 8:10:55 AM Anddrix
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* [[SelfDemonstrating/DoctorDoom Doom]] from Franchise/MarvelUniverse has been portrayed as anything from a noble villain to pure evil, [[DependingOnTheWriter depending on who was writing the story at the time.]]

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* [[SelfDemonstrating/DoctorDoom Doom]] Doom from Franchise/MarvelUniverse has been portrayed as anything from a noble villain to pure evil, [[DependingOnTheWriter depending on who was writing the story at the time.]]
26th Dec '15 7:37:05 PM nombretomado
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*** While that was the case in TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks, several [[UsefulNotes/TheBronzeAgeOfComicBooks Bronze Age]] stories, most notably the "Mr. Xavier Saga" [[ComicBook/{{X-Men}} (no relation)]], came to the conclusion that he valued both identities equally, and felt miserable and stressed whenever he was forced to neglect either for an extended period of time. Without Clark, he had no way to ever relax; and without Superman, he couldn't help people in danger.[[note]]"I tried to decide whether Clark or Superman is more important... and realized that to do away with one would be to ''kill'' half of myself--''whoever'' I really am! So... I'd decided meek, mild-mannered Clark Kent will still walk the streets of the city--while up in the sky... the world will still watch and thrill to the sight of--a job for Superman!"[[/note]].

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*** While that was the case in TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks, UsefulNotes/TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks, several [[UsefulNotes/TheBronzeAgeOfComicBooks Bronze Age]] stories, most notably the "Mr. Xavier Saga" [[ComicBook/{{X-Men}} [[ComicBook/XMen (no relation)]], came to the conclusion that he valued both identities equally, and felt miserable and stressed whenever he was forced to neglect either for an extended period of time. Without Clark, he had no way to ever relax; and without Superman, he couldn't help people in danger.[[note]]"I tried to decide whether Clark or Superman is more important... and realized that to do away with one would be to ''kill'' half of myself--''whoever'' I really am! So... I'd decided meek, mild-mannered Clark Kent will still walk the streets of the city--while up in the sky... the world will still watch and thrill to the sight of--a job for Superman!"[[/note]].
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