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** In the 2014 series ''ComicBook/TheMultiversity'', the characters of Earth-8 are all based off Creator/MarvelComics properties. The Retaliators (ComicBook/TheAvengers) consist of the American Crusader (ComicBook/CaptainAmerica), Machinehead (ComicBook/IronMan), Behemoth (ComicBook/TheIncredibleHulk), Wundajin (ComicBook/TheMightyThor), Ladybug (ComicBook/SpiderWoman), Major Max ([[ComicBook/CarolDanvers Captain Marvel]]), Kite (ComicBook/TheFalcon), Red Dragon (ComicBook/BlackWidow) and Deadeye (ComicBook/{{Hawkeye}}). There's also the Future Family (the ComicBook/FantasticFour) and a pastiche of the X-Men called the G-Men (later the Zen-Men), whose ranks include Uni-Orb (ComicBook/{{Cyclops}}), Windrider (ComicBook/{{Storm}}), Night Troller (ComicBook/{{Nightcrawler}}) and unidentified analogues of ComicBook/JeanGrey, ComicBook/{{Colossus}} and a few other mutant heroes. And, of course, there's also an appearance by Lord Havok (Doctor Doom).

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** In the 2014 series ''ComicBook/TheMultiversity'', the characters of Earth-8 are all based off Creator/MarvelComics properties. The Retaliators (ComicBook/TheAvengers) consist of the American Crusader (ComicBook/CaptainAmerica), Machinehead (ComicBook/IronMan), Behemoth (ComicBook/TheIncredibleHulk), Wundajin (ComicBook/TheMightyThor), Ladybug (ComicBook/SpiderWoman), Major Max ([[ComicBook/CarolDanvers Captain Marvel]]), Kite (ComicBook/TheFalcon), Red Dragon (ComicBook/BlackWidow) and Deadeye (ComicBook/{{Hawkeye}}). There's also the Future Family (the ComicBook/FantasticFour) and a pastiche of the X-Men called the G-Men (later the Zen-Men), whose ranks include Uni-Orb (ComicBook/{{Cyclops}}), (ComicBook/{{Cyclops|MarvelComics}}), Windrider (ComicBook/{{Storm}}), (ComicBook/{{Storm|MarvelComics}}), Night Troller (ComicBook/{{Nightcrawler}}) and unidentified analogues of ComicBook/JeanGrey, ComicBook/{{Colossus}} and a few other mutant heroes. And, of course, there's also an appearance by Lord Havok (Doctor Doom).
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* Red Lion from ''ComicBook/{{Deathstroke}}'' was created to basically be the DC equivalent of ComicBook/BlackPanther. Key difference is that Black Panther is a just ruler while Red Lion is a murderous tyrant. Then again, Red Lion was created by Creator/{{Christopher Priest|Comics}} who is also Black Panther's most famous writer.

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* Red Lion from ''ComicBook/{{Deathstroke}}'' ''ComicBook/{{Deathstroke|Rebirth}}'' was created to basically be the DC equivalent of ComicBook/BlackPanther. Key difference is that Black Panther is a just ruler while Red Lion is a murderous tyrant. Then again, Red Lion was created by Creator/{{Christopher Priest|Comics}} who is also Black Panther's most famous writer.
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* Alternatively, Cletus Kasady, once you remove the Carnage symbiote, has a DC equivalent in the form of Victor Zsasz from the ComicBook/{{Batman}} comics. Namely, both are StrawNihilist {{Serial Killer}}s who debuted within a year of each other during UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks and have been known to [[PsychoKnifeNut use bladed weapons]] for both killing and defense. In addition, both Casady and Zsasz tend to be toned-down or even AdaptedOut in family-friendly media, especially cartoons, for these reasons.

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* Alternatively, Cletus Kasady, once you remove the Carnage symbiote, has a DC equivalent in the form of Victor Zsasz from the ComicBook/{{Batman}} comics. Namely, both are StrawNihilist {{Serial Killer}}s who debuted within a year of each other during UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks MediaNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks and have been known to [[PsychoKnifeNut use bladed weapons]] for both killing and defense. In addition, both Casady and Zsasz tend to be toned-down or even AdaptedOut in family-friendly media, especially cartoons, for these reasons.



* This is the backbone of Creator/KurtBusiek's ''ComicBook/AstroCity''. Every character is an entirely original creation, but they all draw on archetypes from other comics. Samaritan is basically ComicBook/{{Superman}} but with a TimeTravel origin, the Silver Agent is ComicBook/CaptainAmerica as a metaphor for UsefulNotes/TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks, The First Family is basically [[TheFantasticFaux the Fantastic Four]] but multi-generational, Jack-in-the-Box is heavily inspired by ComicBook/SpiderMan but with [[BadassNormal a variety of gadgets instead of powers]], and so on.
** As The Gentleman is a [[UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfComicBooks Golden Age]] {{Expy}} of [[ComicBook/{{Shazam}} Captain Marvel]], it's rather fitting that he's drawn to resemble Alex Ross's renditions of the Big Red Cheese (especially since Ross paints almost all of the ''Astro City'' covers).

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* This is the backbone of Creator/KurtBusiek's ''ComicBook/AstroCity''. Every character is an entirely original creation, but they all draw on archetypes from other comics. Samaritan is basically ComicBook/{{Superman}} but with a TimeTravel origin, the Silver Agent is ComicBook/CaptainAmerica as a metaphor for UsefulNotes/TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks, MediaNotes/TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks, The First Family is basically [[TheFantasticFaux the Fantastic Four]] but multi-generational, Jack-in-the-Box is heavily inspired by ComicBook/SpiderMan but with [[BadassNormal a variety of gadgets instead of powers]], and so on.
** As The Gentleman is a [[UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfComicBooks [[MediaNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfComicBooks Golden Age]] {{Expy}} of [[ComicBook/{{Shazam}} Captain Marvel]], it's rather fitting that he's drawn to resemble Alex Ross's renditions of the Big Red Cheese (especially since Ross paints almost all of the ''Astro City'' covers).



* ''Big Bang Comics'' eats this trope for breakfast, lunch, and dinner, and has several snacks along the way. ''Every'' BB character is an A.C.E. of some [[UsefulNotes/TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks Silver Age]], usually DC, character. A few qualities are mixed and matched, but most are very recognizable.

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* ''Big Bang Comics'' eats this trope for breakfast, lunch, and dinner, and has several snacks along the way. ''Every'' BB character is an A.C.E. of some [[UsefulNotes/TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks [[MediaNotes/TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks Silver Age]], usually DC, character. A few qualities are mixed and matched, but most are very recognizable.
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* In The80s, the ComicBook/TeenTitans teamed up with a group called the [=ReCombatants=] who bore a similarity to Eclipse Comics' ''ComicBook/TheDNAgents'' (the name is a pun on "recombinant DNA"). At the same time, the [=DNAgents=] teamed with the members of Project: Youngblood (no connection to Creator/RobLiefeld's later [[ComicBook/{{Youngblood}} team of the same name]], which was ''also'' a take on the Titans).

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* In The80s, the ComicBook/TeenTitans teamed up with a group called the [=ReCombatants=] who bore a similarity to Eclipse Comics' ''ComicBook/TheDNAgents'' (the name is a pun on "recombinant DNA"). At the same time, the [=DNAgents=] teamed with the members of Project: Youngblood (no connection to Creator/RobLiefeld's later [[ComicBook/{{Youngblood}} [[ComicBook/YoungbloodImageComics team of the same name]], which was ''also'' a take on the Titans).



** From the Awesome Comics section of the company, there's also ComicBook/{{Youngblood}}, which was originally Creator/RobLiefeld's pitch for a Teen Titans series before becoming their own characters at Image. The team's leader is Shaft, a redheaded archer and former government agent, obviously based on DC's Roy Harper/Arsenal. The short-lived Creator/AlanMoore run {{exaggerated|trope}} it, introducing several new characters who were pastiches of various DC teen heroes, including Suprema (Supergirl), Twilight (ComicBook/{{Nightwing}}) and Doc Rocket (Jesse Quick/Kid Flash).

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** From the Awesome Comics section of the company, there's also ComicBook/{{Youngblood}}, ComicBook/YoungbloodImageComics, which was originally Creator/RobLiefeld's pitch for a Teen Titans series before becoming their own characters at Image. The team's leader is Shaft, a redheaded archer and former government agent, obviously based on DC's Roy Harper/Arsenal. The short-lived Creator/AlanMoore run {{exaggerated|trope}} it, introducing several new characters who were pastiches of various DC teen heroes, including Suprema (Supergirl), Twilight (ComicBook/{{Nightwing}}) and Doc Rocket (Jesse Quick/Kid Flash).
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** This reflects somewhat in the latter two's primary love interests, Iris West-Allen and Linda Park-West, respectfully, as they both take aspects of Peter Parker's two primary love interests, Gwen Stacy and Mary Jane Watson-Parker. Like Gwen and Peter, Linda didn't initially get along with Wally at first, and was typically the serious minded of the pair in their relationship; meanwhile, Iris was the 'first girl' of Barry like Gwen was for Peter (not counting his high school love interest Betty), but was tragically killed by a supervillain (Green Goblin/Reverse-Flash), though unlike Gwen, she actually came back to life later. Like Peter and MJ, Iris is a case of HeroesWantRedHeads and she acted as something of a ManicPixieDreamGirl who he later married and became a confidante of his superheroing, and in recent rewrites has been characterized as a childhood friend. Both also have been RaceLift[=ed=] (to being part black) in some modern adaptations. Linda and Wally meanwhile are shown to have a very flirty and playful relationship like Peter and MJ (while maintaining the ManicPixieDreamGirl dynamic but flipping it so ''Wally'' is the 'dream girl'), and due to his public identity she provides an emotional support and constant aid during his superheroing, and during occasions where she's threatened by supervillains is often an active participant in shutting them down instead of merely waiting to be rescued. They've repeatedly suffered setbacks that have often put a 'pause' on their relationship, and despite her not being the 'first girl' is typically seen as his primary One True Love. Also, like MJ, Linda initially wasn't going to be the main love interest for Wally until fandom popularity saw her PromotedToLoveInterest.

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** This reflects somewhat in the latter two's primary love interests, Iris West-Allen and Linda Park-West, respectfully, as they both take aspects of Peter Parker's two primary love interests, Gwen Stacy and Mary Jane Watson-Parker. Like Gwen and Peter, Linda didn't initially get along with Wally at first, and was typically the serious minded of the pair in their relationship; meanwhile, Iris was the 'first girl' of Barry like Gwen was for Peter (not counting his high school love interest Betty), but was tragically killed by a supervillain (Green Goblin/Reverse-Flash), though unlike Gwen, she actually came back to life later. Like Peter and MJ, Iris is a case of HeroesWantRedHeads and she acted as something of a ManicPixieDreamGirl who he later married and became a confidante of his superheroing, and in recent rewrites has been characterized as a childhood friend. Both also have been RaceLift[=ed=] (to being part black) in some modern adaptations. Linda and Wally meanwhile are shown to have a very flirty and playful relationship like Peter and MJ (while maintaining the ManicPixieDreamGirl dynamic but flipping it so ''Wally'' is the 'dream girl'), and due to his public identity she provides an emotional support and constant aid during his superheroing, and during occasions where she's threatened by supervillains is often an active participant in shutting them down instead of merely waiting to be rescued. They've repeatedly suffered setbacks that have often put a 'pause' on their relationship, and despite her not being the 'first girl' is typically seen as his primary One True Love. Also, like MJ, Linda initially wasn't going to be the main love interest for Wally until fandom popularity saw her PromotedToLoveInterest.
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** The ''ComicBook/NewMutants'' have also been called Marvel's answer to the Teen Titans, especially since both books saw their heyday in TheEighties. In more modern times, both the ''ComicBook/YoungAvengers'' and the ''ComicBook/{{Champions|MarvelComics}}'' could be seen as Marvel's version of the Teen Titans (or ''ComicBook/YoungJustice'').

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** The ''ComicBook/NewMutants'' have also been called Marvel's answer to the Teen Titans, especially since both books saw their heyday in TheEighties.The80s. In more modern times, both the ''ComicBook/YoungAvengers'' and the ''ComicBook/{{Champions|MarvelComics}}'' could be seen as Marvel's version of the Teen Titans (or ''ComicBook/YoungJustice'').



* As mentioned elsewhere on the page, back in TheEighties, ''New Teen Titans'' was considered DC's answer to Creator/ChrisClaremont's wildly popular ''ComicBook/XMen'' run, and is often said to feel way more like a Marvel book than any of the other series DC was publishing at the time. Interestingly, Marv Wolfman has said that the New Teen Titans were more influenced by the ComicBook/FantasticFour, with ComicBook/{{Robin}} and ComicBook/WonderGirl filling ComicBook/MisterFantastic and the ComicBook/InvisibleWoman's roles as the TeamDad and TeamMom (though unlike Reed and Sue, they were not a romantic couple, just really close friends), ComicBook/{{Cyborg}} as TheBigGuy who constantly angsts about his monstrous new appearance like ComicBook/TheThing, and Changeling as the hotheaded, flirtatious and sarcastic youngest member of the team like the ComicBook/HumanTorch.

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* As mentioned elsewhere on the page, back in TheEighties, The80s, ''New Teen Titans'' was considered DC's answer to Creator/ChrisClaremont's wildly popular ''ComicBook/XMen'' run, and is often said to feel way more like a Marvel book than any of the other series DC was publishing at the time. Interestingly, Marv Wolfman has said that the New Teen Titans were more influenced by the ComicBook/FantasticFour, with ComicBook/{{Robin}} and ComicBook/WonderGirl filling ComicBook/MisterFantastic and the ComicBook/InvisibleWoman's roles as the TeamDad and TeamMom (though unlike Reed and Sue, they were not a romantic couple, just really close friends), ComicBook/{{Cyborg}} as TheBigGuy who constantly angsts about his monstrous new appearance like ComicBook/TheThing, and Changeling as the hotheaded, flirtatious and sarcastic youngest member of the team like the ComicBook/HumanTorch.



* Marvel's [[ComicBook/{{Runaways}} Nico Minoru]] and DC's Traci Thirteen are both teenage Asian girls introduced in 2003 who have magic powers but avert the EthnicMagician trope, Nico using BloodMagic and Traci PostModernMagik, with both being associated with magic staffs (although Traci doesn't actually need one). Some similarities, while certainly coincidental, are staggering. They were both introduced in 2003 and around 2007 were dating a Latino-American with science-based powers (Nico was dating Victor Mancha, son of ComicBook/{{Ultron}}, and Traci dated Jaime Reyes, the third ComicBook/BlueBeetle). In the original stories featuring them, they also had quite a few hints of HoYay with another girl, Nico with her teammate Karolina Dean and Traci with Natasha Irons, niece of ComicBook/{{Steel}}, giving them an AmbiguouslyBi status. And in the late TheNewTens, they both officially became LGBTQ characters. After years of absence, Traci has been reintroduced to rebooted DC continuity during ''ComicBook/DCRebirth'' in 2016, now as a young adult dating Natasha, with WordOfGod stating she is a lesbian. Meanwhile, a relaunch of ''Runaways'' for ''ComicBook/MarvelLegacy'' (fittingly, Marvel's answer to ''Rebirth'') had Nico, now a young adult, pursuing a romance with Karolina (although with no official statement whenever she is gay or bisexual).

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* Marvel's [[ComicBook/{{Runaways}} Nico Minoru]] and DC's Traci Thirteen are both teenage Asian girls introduced in 2003 who have magic powers but avert the EthnicMagician trope, Nico using BloodMagic and Traci PostModernMagik, with both being associated with magic staffs (although Traci doesn't actually need one). Some similarities, while certainly coincidental, are staggering. They were both introduced in 2003 and around 2007 were dating a Latino-American with science-based powers (Nico was dating Victor Mancha, son of ComicBook/{{Ultron}}, and Traci dated Jaime Reyes, the third ComicBook/BlueBeetle). In the original stories featuring them, they also had quite a few hints of HoYay with another girl, Nico with her teammate Karolina Dean and Traci with Natasha Irons, niece of ComicBook/{{Steel}}, giving them an AmbiguouslyBi status. And in the late TheNewTens, TheNew10s, they both officially became LGBTQ characters. After years of absence, Traci has been reintroduced to rebooted DC continuity during ''ComicBook/DCRebirth'' in 2016, now as a young adult dating Natasha, with WordOfGod stating she is a lesbian. Meanwhile, a relaunch of ''Runaways'' for ''ComicBook/MarvelLegacy'' (fittingly, Marvel's answer to ''Rebirth'') had Nico, now a young adult, pursuing a romance with Karolina (although with no official statement whenever she is gay or bisexual).



* In TheEighties, the ComicBook/TeenTitans teamed up with a group called the [=ReCombatants=] who bore a similarity to Eclipse Comics' ''ComicBook/TheDNAgents'' (the name is a pun on "recombinant DNA"). At the same time, the [=DNAgents=] teamed with the members of Project: Youngblood (no connection to Creator/RobLiefeld's later [[ComicBook/{{Youngblood}} team of the same name]], which was ''also'' a take on the Titans).

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* In TheEighties, The80s, the ComicBook/TeenTitans teamed up with a group called the [=ReCombatants=] who bore a similarity to Eclipse Comics' ''ComicBook/TheDNAgents'' (the name is a pun on "recombinant DNA"). At the same time, the [=DNAgents=] teamed with the members of Project: Youngblood (no connection to Creator/RobLiefeld's later [[ComicBook/{{Youngblood}} team of the same name]], which was ''also'' a take on the Titans).
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* Imperiex, the villain of ''ComicBook/OurWorldsAtWar'', was deliberately based on Galactus. Both are cosmic beings who appear in the form of giant humanoids in elaborate armor that contain their true form as energy, both are among the top beings of their settings and can slap the strongest heroes and villains of their universes around as though they were hummingbirds, and both are anthropomorphizations of fundamental forces of their universes and regard their planet-destroying works of evil as necessary parts of the natural order - though unlike Galactus, Imperiex was killed off with no apparent negative effects.
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** ''Heroes Reborn'' also introduces the Young Squadron, who serve as the ComicBook/TeenTitans (or possibly ComicBook/YoungJustice) analogue to the Squadron's JLA analogue. The team consists of ComicBook/MilesMorales as the new [[ComicBook/TheFalcon Falcon]] (Nighthawk's technologically gifted teen counterpart who [[LegacyCharacter takes up the mantle]] after the death of the previous Falcon, making him the ''HR'' version of [[Characters/RobinTimDrake Tim Drake]]), [[Characters/MarvelComicsKamalaKhan Kamala Khan]] as Girl Power (a nerdy museum volunteer who gains superpowers after donning an enchanted artifact from Power Princess' homeland, making her a pastiche of the Cassie Sandsmark version of Characters/WonderGirl), and [[Characters/MarvelComicsNovaCorps Sam Alexander]] as Kid Spectrum (a boy who wields a similar Power Prism to Doctor Spectrum's, making him a {{Gender Flip}}ped version of Teen Lantern).

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** ''Heroes Reborn'' also introduces the Young Squadron, who serve as the ComicBook/TeenTitans (or possibly ComicBook/YoungJustice) analogue to the Squadron's JLA analogue. The team consists of ComicBook/MilesMorales [[Characters/MarvelComicsMilesMorales Miles Morales]] as the new [[ComicBook/TheFalcon Falcon]] (Nighthawk's technologically gifted teen counterpart who [[LegacyCharacter takes up the mantle]] after the death of the previous Falcon, making him the ''HR'' version of [[Characters/RobinTimDrake Tim Drake]]), [[Characters/MarvelComicsKamalaKhan Kamala Khan]] as Girl Power (a nerdy museum volunteer who gains superpowers after donning an enchanted artifact from Power Princess' homeland, making her a pastiche of the Cassie Sandsmark version of Characters/WonderGirl), and [[Characters/MarvelComicsNovaCorps Sam Alexander]] as Kid Spectrum (a boy who wields a similar Power Prism to Doctor Spectrum's, making him a {{Gender Flip}}ped version of Teen Lantern).



* As Hispanic (or half-Hispanic) replacements for insect (or arachnid)-based characters who are [[LegacyCharacter successors]] to characters created (or co-created) by Creator/SteveDitko, this claim has been made about [[ComicBook/BlueBeetle Jaime Reyes]] and ComicBook/MilesMorales. Similarly, some fans see the Jaime Reyes version of Blue Beetle and the Sam Alexander version of ComicBook/{{Nova}} as counterparts. They're both good natured Mexican-American teens from border states who got their powers from extraterrestrial artifacts. Their books also share the same comedic, LighterAndSofter tone.

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* As Hispanic (or half-Hispanic) replacements for insect (or arachnid)-based characters who are [[LegacyCharacter successors]] to characters created (or co-created) by Creator/SteveDitko, this claim has been made about [[ComicBook/BlueBeetle Jaime Reyes]] and ComicBook/MilesMorales.[[Characters/MarvelComicsMilesMorales Miles Morales]]. Similarly, some fans see the Jaime Reyes version of Blue Beetle and the Sam Alexander version of ComicBook/{{Nova}} as counterparts. They're both good natured Mexican-American teens from border states who got their powers from extraterrestrial artifacts. Their books also share the same comedic, LighterAndSofter tone.
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** The ''ComicBook/NewMutants'' have also been called Marvel's answer to the Teen Titans, especially since both books saw their heyday in TheEighties. In more modern times, both the ''ComicBook/YoungAvengers'' and the ''ComicBook/{{Champions|2016}}'' could be seen as Marvel's version of the Teen Titans (or ''ComicBook/YoungJustice'').

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** The ''ComicBook/NewMutants'' have also been called Marvel's answer to the Teen Titans, especially since both books saw their heyday in TheEighties. In more modern times, both the ''ComicBook/YoungAvengers'' and the ''ComicBook/{{Champions|2016}}'' ''ComicBook/{{Champions|MarvelComics}}'' could be seen as Marvel's version of the Teen Titans (or ''ComicBook/YoungJustice'').
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* Alternatively, Cletus Kasady, once you remove the Carnage symbiote, has a DC equivalent in the form of Victor Zsasz from the Franchise/{{Batman}} comics. Namely, both are StrawNihilist {{Serial Killer}}s who debuted within a year of each other during UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks and have been known to [[PsychoKnifeNut use bladed weapons]] for both killing and defense. In addition, both Casady and Zsasz tend to be toned-down or even AdaptedOut in family-friendly media, especially cartoons, for these reasons.

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* Alternatively, Cletus Kasady, once you remove the Carnage symbiote, has a DC equivalent in the form of Victor Zsasz from the Franchise/{{Batman}} ComicBook/{{Batman}} comics. Namely, both are StrawNihilist {{Serial Killer}}s who debuted within a year of each other during UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks and have been known to [[PsychoKnifeNut use bladed weapons]] for both killing and defense. In addition, both Casady and Zsasz tend to be toned-down or even AdaptedOut in family-friendly media, especially cartoons, for these reasons.



** ''Heroes Reborn'' also has the rest of the Marvel Universe become similar to the DCU, with existing characters being slotted into roles that mirror their DC counterparts. For instance, the Characters/ScarletWitch gains her brother Comicbook/{{Quicksilver}}'s speed and becomes the Blur’s vengeance-obsessed EvilCounterpart like the Reverse-Flash, Rocket Raccoon becomes a chopper-riding bounty hunter like Comicbook/{{Lobo}}, Ursa Major becomes a pastiche of Gorilla Grodd (even leading "Grizzly City" and battling the Whizzer), the Masters of Evil become the [[LegionOfDoom Masters of Doom]], and Phil Coulson becomes the egotistical PresidentEvil [[VillainWithGoodPublicity With Good Publicity]], mirroring Comicbook/LexLuthor's time as president. Other DC analogues include the Squadron Savage (the Comicbook/SuicideSquad, with Comicbook/TheKingpin acting as the team's answer to Comicbook/AmandaWaller) and the Siege Society (the Secret Society of Super-Villains).
** ''Heroes Reborn'' also introduces the Young Squadron, who serve as the Comicbook/TeenTitans (or possibly Comicbook/YoungJustice) analogue to the Squadron's JLA analogue. The team consists of Comicbook/MilesMorales as the new [[Comicbook/TheFalcon Falcon]] (Nighthawk's technologically gifted teen counterpart who [[LegacyCharacter takes up the mantle]] after the death of the previous Falcon, making him the ''HR'' version of [[Characters/RobinTimDrake Tim Drake]]), [[Characters/MarvelComicsKamalaKhan Kamala Khan]] as Girl Power (a nerdy museum volunteer who gains superpowers after donning an enchanted artifact from Power Princess' homeland, making her a pastiche of the Cassie Sandsmark version of Characters/WonderGirl), and [[Characters/MarvelComicsNovaCorps Sam Alexander]] as Kid Spectrum (a boy who wields a similar Power Prism to Doctor Spectrum's, making him a {{Gender Flip}}ped version of Teen Lantern).

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** ''Heroes Reborn'' also has the rest of the Marvel Universe become similar to the DCU, with existing characters being slotted into roles that mirror their DC counterparts. For instance, the Characters/ScarletWitch gains her brother Comicbook/{{Quicksilver}}'s ComicBook/{{Quicksilver}}'s speed and becomes the Blur’s vengeance-obsessed EvilCounterpart like the Reverse-Flash, Rocket Raccoon becomes a chopper-riding bounty hunter like Comicbook/{{Lobo}}, ComicBook/{{Lobo}}, Ursa Major becomes a pastiche of Gorilla Grodd (even leading "Grizzly City" and battling the Whizzer), the Masters of Evil become the [[LegionOfDoom Masters of Doom]], and Phil Coulson becomes the egotistical PresidentEvil [[VillainWithGoodPublicity With Good Publicity]], mirroring Comicbook/LexLuthor's ComicBook/LexLuthor's time as president. Other DC analogues include the Squadron Savage (the Comicbook/SuicideSquad, ComicBook/SuicideSquad, with Comicbook/TheKingpin ComicBook/TheKingpin acting as the team's answer to Comicbook/AmandaWaller) ComicBook/AmandaWaller) and the Siege Society (the Secret Society of Super-Villains).
** ''Heroes Reborn'' also introduces the Young Squadron, who serve as the Comicbook/TeenTitans ComicBook/TeenTitans (or possibly Comicbook/YoungJustice) ComicBook/YoungJustice) analogue to the Squadron's JLA analogue. The team consists of Comicbook/MilesMorales ComicBook/MilesMorales as the new [[Comicbook/TheFalcon [[ComicBook/TheFalcon Falcon]] (Nighthawk's technologically gifted teen counterpart who [[LegacyCharacter takes up the mantle]] after the death of the previous Falcon, making him the ''HR'' version of [[Characters/RobinTimDrake Tim Drake]]), [[Characters/MarvelComicsKamalaKhan Kamala Khan]] as Girl Power (a nerdy museum volunteer who gains superpowers after donning an enchanted artifact from Power Princess' homeland, making her a pastiche of the Cassie Sandsmark version of Characters/WonderGirl), and [[Characters/MarvelComicsNovaCorps Sam Alexander]] as Kid Spectrum (a boy who wields a similar Power Prism to Doctor Spectrum's, making him a {{Gender Flip}}ped version of Teen Lantern).



* Red Lion from ''ComicBook/{{Deathstroke}}'' was created to basically be the DC equivalent of Comicbook/BlackPanther. Key difference is that Black Panther is a just ruler while Red Lion is a murderous tyrant. Then again, Red Lion was created by Creator/{{Christopher Priest|Comics}} who is also Black Panther's most famous writer.

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* Red Lion from ''ComicBook/{{Deathstroke}}'' was created to basically be the DC equivalent of Comicbook/BlackPanther.ComicBook/BlackPanther. Key difference is that Black Panther is a just ruler while Red Lion is a murderous tyrant. Then again, Red Lion was created by Creator/{{Christopher Priest|Comics}} who is also Black Panther's most famous writer.



* DC's ComicBook/{{Catwoman}} (Selina Kyle) and Marvel's ComicBook/BlackCat (Felicia Hardy) are both {{Classy Cat Burglar}}s wearing black leather {{Spy Catsuit}}s who have some sort of [[DatingCatwoman romantic banter and habit of flirting]] with their series' respective heroes, ComicBook/{{Batman}} and ComicBook/SpiderMan. Like many other characters, ''Comicbook/HeroesReborn2021'' intentionally plays up the parallel by having Felicia be Nighthawk's ex and both have been played by Grey Delise, Jennifer Hale, and Laura Bailey.

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* DC's ComicBook/{{Catwoman}} (Selina Kyle) and Marvel's ComicBook/BlackCat (Felicia Hardy) are both {{Classy Cat Burglar}}s wearing black leather {{Spy Catsuit}}s who have some sort of [[DatingCatwoman romantic banter and habit of flirting]] with their series' respective heroes, ComicBook/{{Batman}} and ComicBook/SpiderMan. Like many other characters, ''Comicbook/HeroesReborn2021'' ''ComicBook/HeroesReborn2021'' intentionally plays up the parallel by having Felicia be Nighthawk's ex and both have been played by Grey Delise, Jennifer Hale, and Laura Bailey.



* This is the backbone of Creator/KurtBusiek's ''ComicBook/AstroCity''. Every character is an entirely original creation, but they all draw on archetypes from other comics. Samaritan is basically Franchise/{{Superman}} but with a TimeTravel origin, the Silver Agent is ComicBook/CaptainAmerica as a metaphor for UsefulNotes/TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks, The First Family is basically [[TheFantasticFaux the Fantastic Four]] but multi-generational, Jack-in-the-Box is heavily inspired by Franchise/SpiderMan but with [[BadassNormal a variety of gadgets instead of powers]], and so on.

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* This is the backbone of Creator/KurtBusiek's ''ComicBook/AstroCity''. Every character is an entirely original creation, but they all draw on archetypes from other comics. Samaritan is basically Franchise/{{Superman}} ComicBook/{{Superman}} but with a TimeTravel origin, the Silver Agent is ComicBook/CaptainAmerica as a metaphor for UsefulNotes/TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks, The First Family is basically [[TheFantasticFaux the Fantastic Four]] but multi-generational, Jack-in-the-Box is heavily inspired by Franchise/SpiderMan ComicBook/SpiderMan but with [[BadassNormal a variety of gadgets instead of powers]], and so on.



** The new Sentinels from the short-lived Comicbook/XMen spin-off ''Mystique'' were deliberately designed to resemble [[Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion Evangelion Unit-02]].
** The Manga/MarvelMangaverse was big on this. Among the most obvious was Jonatha Storm (the {{Gender Flip}}ped version of the Comicbook/HumanTorch) as Asuka Langley Soryu from ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion''. She was even redesigned to look more like Asuka in the ''New Mangaverse'' series.

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** The Fighting American was already a Captain America knockoff created by Jack Kirby and Joe Simon back in the 1950s, but Liefeld rebooted the character as an even more blatant clone of Cap, right down to giving him a shield and a new KidSidekick based on Comicbook/BuckyBarnes (specifically the {{Gender Flip}}ped version from ''Comicbook/HeroesReborn''). The similarities were obvious enough that Marvel even took legal action against Liefeld.

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* In an odd way, the Wrecking Crew of Marvel and the Royal Flush Gang of DC have become this. Both were initially organized by a preexisting villain who's now only thought of in relation to the group (The Wrecker and Amos Fortune). They both have distinctive themes where each member has a gimmick despite overlapping powersets (construction workers on one end, playing cards on the other). They're both fairly mercenary in motivation, and tend to either work for money or just steal it. But most importantly, they're the all-time champions of TheWorfEffect in their respective universes, having jobbed out against dozens of up-and-coming superheroes despite having once acquitted themselves decently against the A-listers ([[ComicBook/TheMightyThor Thor]] and the ComicBook/{{Avengers}}, the ComicBook/JusticeLeague). If a writer needs to [[EstablishingCharacterMoment establish that a hero is doing hero stuff]] in one panel, there's about a 40% chance it'll be shown with a single panel of the hero punching one of the above teams in the face. Their appearance in ''ComicBook/JLAAvengers'' was basically a nod to this - the two teams are both some of the first named villains to arrive to the final battle, and both get taken out by the other company's team, sharing their status as {{Jobber}}s within the multiverse.

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* Lately Arcade has become Marvel's equivalent to DC's Doctor Light. They both were silly joke villains who, after a disastrously over-the-top attempt to make them DarkerAndEdgier that saw them commit acts so abhorrent that it simply made readers want to see them die painfully and never, ever appear again[[note]]respectively raping Sue Dibney in ''ComicBook/IdentityCrisis'', and forcing Marvel teen heroes into a ''Film/BattleRoyale'' "kill your mates or die" story in ''ComicBook/AvengersArena''[[/note]], became villainous poster boys for the NeverLiveItDown trope.

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* ComicBook/PlasticMan and ComicBook/ElongatedMan to [[ComicBook/FantasticFour Mr. Fantastic]], being the resident RubberMan with stretching powers. Despite being the less prominent of the two, Elongated Man is the closer equivalent to Mr. Fantastic in that both are known for their intelligence (Ralph is a detective while Reed is one of the smartest men in the Marvel Universe), have no SecretIdentity (being some of the first public superheroes in comics), and have been embroiled in controversial events revolving around privacy (''ComicBook/IdentityCrisis'' and ''ComicBook/{{Civil War|2006}}'' respectively). Both Ralph and Reed have had long-term marriages to women named "Sue" (Susan Dearborn-Dibny and Susan Storm-Richards).

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* ComicBook/PlasticMan and ComicBook/ElongatedMan to [[ComicBook/FantasticFour Mr. Fantastic]], being the resident RubberMan with stretching powers. Despite being the less prominent of the two, Elongated Man is the closer equivalent to Mr. Fantastic in that both are known for their intelligence (Ralph is a detective while Reed is one of the smartest men in the Marvel Universe), have no SecretIdentity (being some of the first public superheroes in comics), and have been embroiled in controversial events revolving around privacy (''ComicBook/IdentityCrisis'' (''ComicBook/IdentityCrisis2004'' and ''ComicBook/{{Civil War|2006}}'' respectively). Both Ralph and Reed have had long-term marriages to women named "Sue" (Susan Dearborn-Dibny and Susan Storm-Richards).
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** In addition, Jameson has another counterpart in Bethany Snow, a corrupt news anchor who slanders the ComicBook/TeenTitans. The only difference aside from gender is that Bethany, much like Godfrey, is secretly involved with evil, being an ally of Brother Blood.
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* During ''ComicBook/CivilWar'', Ben Grimm refused to take a side in the conflict and briefly moved to Paris. Their local heroes were [[http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Les_Heroes_de_Paris_(Earth-616) a light-hearted Justice League pastiche,]] riffing on how [[DarkerAndEdgier grimdark]] things were getting back in America. Their leader was a Superman expy (or, given his white costume and blonde hair, a RuleSixtyThree version of ComicBook/PowerGirl) named Adamantine. Also present were expies of Batman, Catwoman, Flash and Green Lantern - and a composite of Deadman and the Question.

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* During ''ComicBook/CivilWar'', ''ComicBook/{{Civil War|2006}}'', Ben Grimm refused to take a side in the conflict and briefly moved to Paris. Their local heroes were [[http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Les_Heroes_de_Paris_(Earth-616) a light-hearted Justice League pastiche,]] riffing on how [[DarkerAndEdgier grimdark]] things were getting back in America. Their leader was a Superman expy (or, given his white costume and blonde hair, a RuleSixtyThree version of ComicBook/PowerGirl) named Adamantine. Also present were expies of Batman, Catwoman, Flash and Green Lantern - and a composite of Deadman and the Question.



** The 2007 miniseries ''Lord Havok and the Extremists'', featuring an alternate version of Angor (the ''Supreme Power'' to the original's ''Squadron Supreme''?), continued this, for instance establishing that Diehard is the Sorceress's father and used to run a school for metahumans. It also introduced the Champions' leader Americommando (ComicBook/CaptainAmerica) who is President (after the death of President Tin Man, that is) following something very like Marvel's ''ComicBook/CivilWar'' and having an affair with Bluejay's wife (a reference to the Cap/Wasp relationship in ''ComicBook/TheUltimates'').

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** The 2007 miniseries ''Lord Havok and the Extremists'', featuring an alternate version of Angor (the ''Supreme Power'' to the original's ''Squadron Supreme''?), continued this, for instance establishing that Diehard is the Sorceress's father and used to run a school for metahumans. It also introduced the Champions' leader Americommando (ComicBook/CaptainAmerica) who is President (after the death of President Tin Man, that is) following something very like Marvel's ''ComicBook/CivilWar'' ''ComicBook/{{Civil War|2006}}'' and having an affair with Bluejay's wife (a reference to the Cap/Wasp relationship in ''ComicBook/TheUltimates'').



** Bucky started off as a Timely Comics attempt to bottle the lightning success of the Boy Wonder, Dick Grayson. Bucky took over as Captain America after he died in ''ComicBook/CivilWar'', bringing his own methods to the role. Dick would do the same a year later when Bruce Wayne died in ''ComicBook/FinalCrisis''. After faking he was "killed" in ''ComicBook/FearItself'', Bucky went on to continue his black ops spy work with ComicBook/BlackWidow, in his own ''Winter Soldier'' ongoing series. Years later, Dick would also ditch his costumed identity, Nightwing, to become a black ops spy with a hot lady partner after he was supposedly "killed" in ''ComicBook/ForeverEvil2013''.

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** Bucky started off as a Timely Comics attempt to bottle the lightning success of the Boy Wonder, Dick Grayson. Bucky took over as Captain America after he died in ''ComicBook/CivilWar'', ''ComicBook/{{Civil War|2006}}'', bringing his own methods to the role. Dick would do the same a year later when Bruce Wayne died in ''ComicBook/FinalCrisis''. After faking he was "killed" in ''ComicBook/FearItself'', Bucky went on to continue his black ops spy work with ComicBook/BlackWidow, in his own ''Winter Soldier'' ongoing series. Years later, Dick would also ditch his costumed identity, Nightwing, to become a black ops spy with a hot lady partner after he was supposedly "killed" in ''ComicBook/ForeverEvil2013''.



* ComicBook/PlasticMan and ComicBook/ElongatedMan to [[ComicBook/FantasticFour Mr. Fantastic]], being the resident RubberMan with stretching powers. Despite being the less prominent of the two, Elongated Man is the closer equivalent to Mr. Fantastic in that both are known for their intelligence (Ralph is a detective while Reed is one of the smartest men in the Marvel Universe), have no SecretIdentity (being some of the first public superheroes in comics), and have been embroiled in controversial events revolving around privacy (''ComicBook/IdentityCrisis'' and ''ComicBook/CivilWar'' respectively). Both Ralph and Reed have had long-term marriages to women named "Sue" (Susan Dearborn-Dibny and Susan Storm-Richards).

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* ComicBook/PlasticMan and ComicBook/ElongatedMan to [[ComicBook/FantasticFour Mr. Fantastic]], being the resident RubberMan with stretching powers. Despite being the less prominent of the two, Elongated Man is the closer equivalent to Mr. Fantastic in that both are known for their intelligence (Ralph is a detective while Reed is one of the smartest men in the Marvel Universe), have no SecretIdentity (being some of the first public superheroes in comics), and have been embroiled in controversial events revolving around privacy (''ComicBook/IdentityCrisis'' and ''ComicBook/CivilWar'' ''ComicBook/{{Civil War|2006}}'' respectively). Both Ralph and Reed have had long-term marriages to women named "Sue" (Susan Dearborn-Dibny and Susan Storm-Richards).
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* Alternatively, Cletus Kasady, once you remove the Carnage symbiote, has a DC equivalent in the form of Victor Zsasz from the Franchise/{{Batman}} comics. Namely, both are StrawNihilist {{Serial Killer}}s who debuted within a year of each other during UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks and have been known to [[PsychoKnifeNut use bladed weapons]] for both killing and defense. In addition, both Casady and Zsasz tend to be toned-down or even AdaptedOut in family-friendly adaptations such as cartoons.

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* ComicBook/AmbushBug headlines a series of whacked-out 4th-wall-breaking, WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs comics that satirize both his universe and [[TakeThat other companies']], much like ComicBook/HowardTheDuck.

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* Creator/KurtBusiek's ''ComicBook/AstroCity'' takes what sounds like the ''Planetary'' approach. As above, the range runs from near-duplicates ("The Furst Family", who act like the Fantastic Four, are all related, and have the same initials) to ones that sound like Silver Age characters you must have known about but can't quite remember.

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* This is the backbone of Creator/KurtBusiek's ''ComicBook/AstroCity'' takes what sounds like the ''Planetary'' approach. As above, the range runs ''ComicBook/AstroCity''. Every character is an entirely original creation, but they all draw on archetypes from near-duplicates ("The Furst Family", who act like other comics. Samaritan is basically Franchise/{{Superman}} but with a TimeTravel origin, the Silver Agent is ComicBook/CaptainAmerica as a metaphor for UsefulNotes/TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks, The First Family is basically [[TheFantasticFaux the Fantastic Four, are all related, Four]] but multi-generational, Jack-in-the-Box is heavily inspired by Franchise/SpiderMan but with [[BadassNormal a variety of gadgets instead of powers]], and have the same initials) to ones so on.
** As The Gentleman is a [[UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfComicBooks Golden Age]] {{Expy}} of [[ComicBook/{{Shazam}} Captain Marvel]], it's rather fitting
that sound like Silver Age characters you must have known about but can't quite remember.he's drawn to resemble Alex Ross's renditions of the Big Red Cheese (especially since Ross paints almost all of the ''Astro City'' covers).
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* ComicBook/GreenGoblin, ComicBook/{{Carnage}}, and [[ComicBook/{{Daredevil}} Bullseye]] are considered each corresponding hero's answer to ComicBook/TheJoker, not just because of their status as {{Arch Enem|y}}ies but because how they each have traits that only they truly share with the Joker, with the Goblin sharing the laugh, [[LargeHam the ham factor]], the [[ManipulativeBastard inhuman madness and intelligence]], and JokerImmunity (to a point). Carnage shares the SerialKiller background as well as the complete insanity and distorted perception of the world, to the point where Cletus Kasady is pretty much Joker bonded to a symbiote. Bullseye shares the unknown origin and identity, [[ImprobableWeaponUser the unusual weapons]], and rivals even Joker for the title of most insane man in comics. Nowadays though, ComicBook/NormanOsborn has a persona of a manipulative ComicBook/LexLuthor and a persona of a crazed Joker and will flip between the two at the drop of a hat.

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* ComicBook/GreenGoblin, ComicBook/{{Carnage}}, and [[ComicBook/{{Daredevil}} Bullseye]] are [[PracticallyJoker considered each corresponding hero's answer answer]] to ComicBook/TheJoker, not just because of their status as {{Arch Enem|y}}ies but because how they each have traits that only they truly share with the Joker, with the Goblin sharing the laugh, [[LargeHam the ham factor]], the [[ManipulativeBastard inhuman madness and intelligence]], and JokerImmunity (to a point). Carnage shares the SerialKiller background as well as the complete insanity and distorted perception of the world, to the point where Cletus Kasady is pretty much Joker bonded to a symbiote. Bullseye shares the unknown origin and identity, [[ImprobableWeaponUser the unusual weapons]], and rivals even Joker for the title of most insane man in comics. Nowadays though, ComicBook/NormanOsborn has a persona of a manipulative ComicBook/LexLuthor and a persona of a crazed Joker and will flip between the two at the drop of a hat.
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* The authors of DC's ''ComicBook/{{Freedom Fighters|DC}}'' and Marvel's ''ComicBook/{{The Invaders|MarvelComics}}'' decided to do a pseudo-crossover; each team fought a team based on the other called (in both books) The Crusaders.

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* DC's ComicBook/{{Catwoman}} (Selina Kyle) and Marvel's ComicBook/BlackCat (Felicia Hardy) are both {{Classy Cat Burglar}}s wearing black leather {{Spy Catsuit}}s who have some sort of [[DatingCatwoman romantic banter and habit of flirting]] with their series' respective heroes, ComicBook/{{Batman}} and ComicBook/SpiderMan. Like many other characters, ''Comicbook/HeroesReborn2021'' intentionally plays up the parallel by having Felicia be Nighthawk's ex.

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* DC's ComicBook/{{Catwoman}} (Selina Kyle) and Marvel's ComicBook/BlackCat (Felicia Hardy) are both {{Classy Cat Burglar}}s wearing black leather {{Spy Catsuit}}s who have some sort of [[DatingCatwoman romantic banter and habit of flirting]] with their series' respective heroes, ComicBook/{{Batman}} and ComicBook/SpiderMan. Like many other characters, ''Comicbook/HeroesReborn2021'' intentionally plays up the parallel by having Felicia be Nighthawk's ex.ex and both have been played by Grey Delise, Jennifer Hale, and Laura Bailey.
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* ComicBook/BlackCanary and [[ComicBook/{{Thunderbolts}} Songbird]]. Both are superheroines (Songbird being a reformed villainess) with avian-themed codenames and MakeMeWannaShout powers.

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** And of course, the biggest one of all, ''ComicBook/LexLuthor''. Back when his {{Retool}} as a CorruptCorporateExecutive was still a new thing, some people - including some writers - called the new Lex "Thin Kingpin", as often, Kingpin used a VillainWithGoodPublicity act much as Lex Luthor did, and both have a BaldOfEvil.

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* During a brief period between 1995-1996, Marvel tried its own hand at an imprint similiar to DC's Creator/{{Elseworlds}} called "Alterniverse", which took over overseeing ''ComicBook/WhatIf'' during its brief time. Otherwise, only three stories of note came from it before it became a StillbornFranchise: ''ComicBook/TheLastAvengersStory'', ''ComicBook/ThePunisherKillsTheMarvelUniverse'', and ''ComicBook/{{Ruins}}''.

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* DC's Mr. Freeze and Marvel's ComicBook/DoctorOctopus have rather similar backstories (a lab accident that took their love interests out of the picture and altered them permanently), although Freeze is a TragicVillain who was disabled by the accident and, thanks to ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' reimagining him, is driven by the goal to save his wife.

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* DC's Mr. Freeze and Marvel's ComicBook/DoctorOctopus have rather similar backstories (a lab accident that took their love interests out of the picture and altered them permanently), although Freeze is a TragicVillain who was disabled by the accident and, thanks to ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' reimagining him, is driven by the goal to save his wife. In fact, both characters have been played by Creator/AlfredMolina (Doc Ock in ''Film/SpiderMan2'' and ''Film/SpiderManNoWayHome'', Mr. Freeze in ''WesternAnimation/HarleyQuinn2019''.


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** Creator/ChristopherPriest introduced Death Masque, an insane Arkham Asylum inmate who pals around with Deathstroke during his run on him. Death Masque is quite insane, but more lighthearted than ol' grim-n-gritty Deathstroke. As Slade begins to suspect that certain previous events were merely figments of their imagination, Death Masque blurts out "Of course! But I know the key to the universe, Mr. [[Creator/RobLiefeld Liefold]]! [[SelfReferentialHumor There's a man... with a typewriter...]] Alright, [[LampshadeHanging let's admit it.]] It would be freaking ironic if they sued us." Christopher Priest was the one who originally gave Deadpool his fourth-wall breaking schtick. Perhaps Death Masque is his way of [[SpiritualLicensee giving us the Slade/Wade team-up book of our dreams]].

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* Red Lion from ''ComicBook/{{Deathstroke}}'' was created to basically be the DC equivalent of Comicbook/BlackPanther. Key difference is that Black Panther is a just ruler while Red Lion is a murderous tyrant. Then again, Red Lion was created by Creator/ChristopherPriest who is also Black Panther's most famous writer.

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* ComicBook/GreenGoblin, ComicBook/{{Carnage}}, and [[ComicBook/{{Daredevil}} Bullseye]] are considered each corresponding hero's answer to ComicBook/TheJoker, not just because of their status as {{Arch Enem|y}}ies but because how they each have traits that only they truly share with the Joker, with the Goblin sharing the laugh, [[LargeHam the ham factor]], the [[ManipulativeBastard inhuman madness and intelligence]], and JokerImmunity (to a point). Carnage shares the SerialKiller background as well as the complete insanity and distorted perception of the world, to the point where Cletus Cassidy is pretty much Joker bonded to a symbiote. Bullseye shares the unknown origin and identity, [[ImprobableWeaponUser the unusual weapons]], and rivals even Joker for the title of most insane man in comics. Nowadays though, ComicBook/NormanOsborn has a persona of a manipulative ComicBook/LexLuthor and a persona of a crazed Joker and will flip between the two at the drop of a hat.

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* ComicBook/GreenGoblin, ComicBook/{{Carnage}}, and [[ComicBook/{{Daredevil}} Bullseye]] are considered each corresponding hero's answer to ComicBook/TheJoker, not just because of their status as {{Arch Enem|y}}ies but because how they each have traits that only they truly share with the Joker, with the Goblin sharing the laugh, [[LargeHam the ham factor]], the [[ManipulativeBastard inhuman madness and intelligence]], and JokerImmunity (to a point). Carnage shares the SerialKiller background as well as the complete insanity and distorted perception of the world, to the point where Cletus Cassidy Kasady is pretty much Joker bonded to a symbiote. Bullseye shares the unknown origin and identity, [[ImprobableWeaponUser the unusual weapons]], and rivals even Joker for the title of most insane man in comics. Nowadays though, ComicBook/NormanOsborn has a persona of a manipulative ComicBook/LexLuthor and a persona of a crazed Joker and will flip between the two at the drop of a hat.hat.
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** ''Heroes Reborn'' also has the rest of the Marvel Universe become similar to the DCU, with existing characters being slotted into roles that mirror their DC counterparts. For instance, the Characters/ScarletWitch gains her brother Comicbook/{{Quicksilver}}'s speed and becomes the Whizzer's vengeance-obsessed EvilCounterpart like the Reverse-Flash, Rocket Raccoon becomes a chopper-riding bounty hunter like Comicbook/{{Lobo}}, Ursa Major becomes a pastiche of Gorilla Grodd (even leading "Grizzly City" and battling the Whizzer), the Masters of Evil become the [[LegionOfDoom Masters of Doom]], and Phil Coulson becomes the egotistical PresidentEvil [[VillainWithGoodPublicity With Good Publicity]], mirroring Comicbook/LexLuthor's time as president. Other DC analogues include the Squadron Savage (the Comicbook/SuicideSquad, with Comicbook/TheKingpin acting as the team's answer to Comicbook/AmandaWaller) and the Siege Society (the Secret Society of Super-Villains).

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* Naturally, both companies' take on Ares are this to one another. Aside from being a WarGod like the original, they tend to [[HeelFaceRevolvingDoor alternate between being heroes and villains. villains]].


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* Marvel and DC cosmic lore almost completely overlap at this point, with Marvel's The One-Above-All and DC's The Presence serving as TopGod / BigGood, DC's The Great Darkness and Marvel's The One-One-Below-All as the [[spoiler:DarkIsNotEvil]] [[TheAntiGod Anti-God]] [[spoiler:who maintains the BalanceBetweenGoodAndEvil]], DC's The Source and Marvel's The Beyond as the VoidBetweenTheWorlds where these beings live and Marvel's The Beyonder's and DC's The Super-Celestials/The Hands as the otherworldly AlwaysABiggerFish to Marvel's The Celestials and DC's The Monitors. Since these beings are so similar and are only visitors to the respective fictional universes they appear in, it would be easy to assume they're [[IHaveManyNames the same beings.]]

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** ''Heroes Reborn'' also has the rest of the Marvel Universe become similar to the DCU, with existing characters being slotted into roles that mirror their DC counterparts. For instance, the Characters/ScarletWitch gains her brother Comicbook/{{Quicksilver}}'s speed and becomes the Whizzer's vengeance-obsessed EvilCounterpart like the Reverse-Flash, Ursa Major becomes a pastiche of Gorilla Grodd (even leading "Grizzly City" and battling the Whizzer), the Masters of Evil become the [[LegionOfDoom Masters of Doom]], and Phil Coulson becomes the PresidentEvil [[VillainWithGoodPublicity With Good Publicity]], mirroring Comicbook/LexLuthor's time as president.

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** ''Heroes Reborn'' also has the rest of the Marvel Universe become similar to the DCU, with existing characters being slotted into roles that mirror their DC counterparts. For instance, the Characters/ScarletWitch gains her brother Comicbook/{{Quicksilver}}'s speed and becomes the Whizzer's vengeance-obsessed EvilCounterpart like the Reverse-Flash, Rocket Raccoon becomes a chopper-riding bounty hunter like Comicbook/{{Lobo}}, Ursa Major becomes a pastiche of Gorilla Grodd (even leading "Grizzly City" and battling the Whizzer), the Masters of Evil become the [[LegionOfDoom Masters of Doom]], and Phil Coulson becomes the egotistical PresidentEvil [[VillainWithGoodPublicity With Good Publicity]], mirroring Comicbook/LexLuthor's time as president.president. Other DC analogues include the Squadron Savage (the Comicbook/SuicideSquad, with Comicbook/TheKingpin acting as the team's answer to Comicbook/AmandaWaller) and the Siege Society (the Secret Society of Super-Villains).



* By the same token, Earth 8 of DC's Multiverse is typically the DC counterpart to Marvel. The known characters can be divided up into basically four teams:
** The Retaliators are pretty much DC's Avengers, complete with their own alliterative AvengersAssemble style battle cry, "Retaliators Ready!" Their members include American Crusader (ComicBook/CaptainAmerica with a knight motif, note their initials are reversed), Machinehead (ComicBook/IronMan), Wundajin (ComicBook/TheMightyThor), Behemoth (ComicBook/TheIncredibleHulk but blue), Red Dragon (ComicBook/BlackWidow), Deadeye (ComicBook/{{Hawkeye}}), Blue Jay (a CompositeCharacter of ComicBook/AntMan and Hawkman), Kite (ComicBook/TheFalcon), Major Max (ComicBook/CarolDanvers), Bug (ComicBook/SpiderMan), Ladybug (ComicBook/SpiderWoman), and Silver Sorceress and Captain Speed (Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver). They also have Hyperius, the Superman of Earth 8, who is an A.C.E. of Hyperion, making him an A.C.E ''of'' an A.C.E.
** The Extremists are a supervillain group resembling a mash-up of some famous Marvel villains. Lord Havok (ComicBook/DoctorDoom with a bit of ComicBook/{{Ultron}} thrown in), Death Bat (The Green Goblin), Doctor Diehard (ComicBook/{{Magneto}}), Dreamslayer (ComicBook/DoctorStrange enemy Dormammu), Gorgon (Doctor Octopus) and Tracer (ComicBook/{{Sabretooth}}).
** The G-Men are pretty clearly the ComicBook/XMen. They only have three named members: Uni-Orb aka One Eye (Cyclops), Windrider (Storm) and Night Troller (Nightcrawler).
** The Future Family led by Frank Future are ComicBook/TheFantasticFour.



* DC's ComicBook/{{Catwoman}} (Selina Kyle) and Marvel's ComicBook/BlackCat (Felicia Hardy) are both {{Classy Cat Burglar}}s wearing black leather {{Spy Catsuit}}s who have some sort of [[DatingCatwoman romantic banter and habit of flirting]] with their series' respective heroes, ComicBook/{{Batman}} and ComicBook/SpiderMan.

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* DC's ComicBook/{{Catwoman}} (Selina Kyle) and Marvel's ComicBook/BlackCat (Felicia Hardy) are both {{Classy Cat Burglar}}s wearing black leather {{Spy Catsuit}}s who have some sort of [[DatingCatwoman romantic banter and habit of flirting]] with their series' respective heroes, ComicBook/{{Batman}} and ComicBook/SpiderMan. Like many other characters, ''Comicbook/HeroesReborn2021'' intentionally plays up the parallel by having Felicia be Nighthawk's ex.

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