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23rd Sep '16 10:57:42 PM nombretomado
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* All of CoheedAndCambria's albums are about ''The Amory Wars'', a sci-fi story by frontman Claudio Sanchez. The only way to truly understand the music is to read the comics, which so far have only covered about 2/5 of the saga. The rest is pretty much guesswork.

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* All of CoheedAndCambria's Music/CoheedAndCambria's albums are about ''The Amory Wars'', a sci-fi story by frontman Claudio Sanchez. The only way to truly understand the music is to read the comics, which so far have only covered about 2/5 of the saga. The rest is pretty much guesswork.
19th Jun '16 1:19:15 AM Morgenthaler
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** In the instance of Music/CharlesIves's ''Concord Sonata'' - a musical depiction of the transcendentalist movement in Massachussets - a pianist may have read selected writings of Emerson, Hawthorne, Bronson and Louisa May Alcott, and [[HenryDavidThoreau Thoreau]], as well as Ives's own "Essays Before A Sonata" (an extended program note on the sonata), performance directions, and numerous supplemental materials, and still have no clue as to how to interpret the work except by intuition.

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** In the instance of Music/CharlesIves's ''Concord Sonata'' - a musical depiction of the transcendentalist movement in Massachussets - a pianist may have read selected writings of Emerson, Hawthorne, Bronson and Louisa May Alcott, and [[HenryDavidThoreau [[Creator/HenryDavidThoreau Thoreau]], as well as Ives's own "Essays Before A Sonata" (an extended program note on the sonata), performance directions, and numerous supplemental materials, and still have no clue as to how to interpret the work except by intuition.
25th May '16 8:25:18 PM HypnoticMeerkat
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* MarilynManson's Triptych, consisting of the albums ''Antichrist Superstar'', ''Mechanical Animals'' and ''Holy Wood'' takes this and runs with it. Reading the actual booklet that comes with each album helps, since each of them are concept albums, and it gives you the name of the protagonist of ''Antichrist Superstar'' (all three of his names, actually), the names of the protagonists of ''Mechanical Animals'' as well as which of them sings which songs, and some stuff for ''Holy Wood'', although not much. This is because there was supposed to be a Holy Wood novel, and Manson still wants to release it as of mid-2015. ''Holy Wood'' came out in 2000. The interviews help a bunch more, giving details like the fact that the Triptych story takes place in the opposite order of release. ''Holy Wood'' and ''Mechanical Animals'', therefore, are prequels, which makes sense, since reality is destroyed at the end of ''Antichrist Superstar''. Perhaps the most helpful source, however, isn't even an official one. The website [[GratuitousGerman "The Nachtkabarett"]] has over a hundred essays explaining all the imagery used in the art, costumes, stage shows, lyrics, symbols and other stuff, as well as deconstructing the lyrics, terms and so much more. It's pretty much the only way you're going to be able to understand it all, and it's taken many years to put together. It does the same for all the other albums, but in comparison to the Triptych, they're far more simple (emphasis on "in comparison to"). It says something that, with the first/last album in the series, ''Antichrist Superstar'', having its 20th anniversary in 2016, not everything is known. For example, is "The Worm" (the protagonist of ''Antichrist Superstar'') the son of Adam Kadmon (the protagonist of ''Holy Wood'') and Coma White (his love interest, as well as Alpha and Omēga, the protagonists of ''Mechanical Animals) or not? Are Alpha and Omēga alive in ''Antichrist Superstar''? What's the significance of the February 14th, 1997 show (an in-universe concert, since Alpha, Omēga and Adam are all musicians), and which protagonist is playing at it (there's one song on each album from it, which are either live or pseudo-live)? This is a case of AllThereInTheManual where the "manual" is interviews, music videos, a fansite, booklets, and an unreleased book (besides for Chapter 10). Until the book is released, and likely far after that even if it ever is, it's going to be a puzzle, and that was intentional, so answers will be slim.

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* MarilynManson's Music/MarilynManson's Triptych, consisting of the albums ''Antichrist Superstar'', ''Mechanical Animals'' and ''Holy Wood'' takes this and runs with it. Reading the actual booklet that comes with each album helps, since each of them are concept albums, and it gives you the name of the protagonist of ''Antichrist Superstar'' (all three of his names, actually), the names of the protagonists of ''Mechanical Animals'' as well as which of them sings which songs, and some stuff for ''Holy Wood'', although not much. This is because there was supposed to be a Holy Wood novel, and Manson still wants to release it as of mid-2015. ''Holy Wood'' came out in 2000. The interviews help a bunch more, giving details like the fact that the Triptych story takes place in the opposite order of release. ''Holy Wood'' and ''Mechanical Animals'', therefore, are prequels, which makes sense, since reality is destroyed at the end of ''Antichrist Superstar''. Perhaps the most helpful source, however, isn't even an official one. The website [[GratuitousGerman "The Nachtkabarett"]] has over a hundred essays explaining all the imagery used in the art, costumes, stage shows, lyrics, symbols and other stuff, as well as deconstructing the lyrics, terms and so much more. It's pretty much the only way you're going to be able to understand it all, and it's taken many years to put together. It does the same for all the other albums, but in comparison to the Triptych, they're far more simple (emphasis on "in comparison to"). It says something that, with the first/last album in the series, ''Antichrist Superstar'', having its 20th anniversary in 2016, not everything is known. For example, is "The Worm" (the protagonist of ''Antichrist Superstar'') the son of Adam Kadmon (the protagonist of ''Holy Wood'') and Coma White (his love interest, as well as Alpha and Omēga, the protagonists of ''Mechanical Animals) or not? Are Alpha and Omēga alive in ''Antichrist Superstar''? What's the significance of the February 14th, 1997 show (an in-universe concert, since Alpha, Omēga and Adam are all musicians), and which protagonist is playing at it (there's one song on each album from it, which are either live or pseudo-live)? This is a case of AllThereInTheManual where the "manual" is interviews, music videos, a fansite, booklets, and an unreleased book (besides for Chapter 10). Until the book is released, and likely far after that even if it ever is, it's going to be a puzzle, and that was intentional, so answers will be slim.
20th Apr '16 1:18:32 AM aye_amber
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* The mysteries presented for listeners in NoxArcana [=CDs=] are near impossible to figure out unless you visit The Arcanum on their website. And even then, some of the puzzles (The Doctor's Office and Pirate Treasure come to mind) will still require visiting the "Hints" section of the forum. In a much less psychologically challenging vein, all of the stories in the songs are much better understood once you've read the full stories/poems.

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* The mysteries presented for listeners in NoxArcana Music/NoxArcana [=CDs=] are near impossible to figure out unless you visit The Arcanum on their website. And even then, some of the puzzles (The Doctor's Office and Pirate Treasure come to mind) will still require visiting the "Hints" section of the forum. In a much less psychologically challenging vein, all of the stories in the songs are much better understood once you've read the full stories/poems.
7th Feb '16 7:44:06 PM nombretomado
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* Music/PearlJam's "Jeremy" from ''Music/TenAlbum'' is about a kid who kills himself in front of the rest of his class. You wouldn't know this unless you saw the music video. And even if you did, it was more than likely the one that was [[{{Bowdlerise}} edited]] to remove a [[AteHisGun key shot]] vital in making it even remotely obvious.

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* Music/PearlJam's "Jeremy" from ''Music/TenAlbum'' ''{{Music/Ten}}'' is about a kid who kills himself in front of the rest of his class. You wouldn't know this unless you saw the music video. And even if you did, it was more than likely the one that was [[{{Bowdlerise}} edited]] to remove a [[AteHisGun key shot]] vital in making it even remotely obvious.
4th Feb '16 7:42:47 PM Hossmeister
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* Music/PearlJam's "Jeremy" from ''Music/{{Ten}}'' is about a kid who kills himself in front of the rest of his class. You wouldn't know this unless you saw the music video. And even if you did, it was more than likely the one that was [[{{Bowdlerise}} edited]] to remove a [[AteHisGun key shot]] vital in making it even remotely obvious.

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* Music/PearlJam's "Jeremy" from ''Music/{{Ten}}'' ''Music/TenAlbum'' is about a kid who kills himself in front of the rest of his class. You wouldn't know this unless you saw the music video. And even if you did, it was more than likely the one that was [[{{Bowdlerise}} edited]] to remove a [[AteHisGun key shot]] vital in making it even remotely obvious.


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* Music/{{Moby}}'s ''Music/{{Play}}'' contains short essays about veganism, religion, and politics. These are pretty {{Anvilicious}} and would get a lot of people to stop listening to his music outright, but Moby explains at the end that these essays serve to explain his motivation to write lyrics in the first place. He closes them by saying, "You might hate the music, but you might love the essays. Who knows, by some miracle, you'll like them both."
19th Oct '15 4:36:06 PM Josef5678
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* The [=CDs=] of ''Standing Stone,'' a mostly-instrumental classical work by PaulMcCartney, includes a poem that includes the storyline for the piece. The {{NPR}} broadcast from when it was released did not.

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* The [=CDs=] of ''Standing Stone,'' a mostly-instrumental classical work by PaulMcCartney, includes a poem that includes the storyline for the piece. The {{NPR}} Creator/{{NPR}} broadcast from when it was released did not.
6th Jul '15 2:30:10 AM ZoeyPosthuman
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* MarilynManson's Triptych, consisting of the albums ''Antichrist Superstar'', ''Mechanical Animals'' and ''Holy Wood'' takes this and runs with it. Reading the actual booklet that comes with each album helps, since each of them are concept albums, and it gives you the name of the protagonist of ''Antichrist Superstar'' (all three of his names, actually), the names of the protagonists of ''Mechanical Animals'' as well as which of them sings which songs, and some stuff for ''Holy Wood'', although not much. This is because there was supposed to be a Holy Wood novel, and Manson still wants to release it as of mid-2015. ''Holy Wood'' came out in 2000. The interviews help a bunch more, giving details like the fact that the Triptych story takes place in the opposite order of release. ''Holy Wood'' and ''Mechanical Animals'', therefore, are prequels, which makes sense, since reality is destroyed at the end of ''Antichrist Superstar''. Perhaps the most helpful source, however, isn't even an official one. The website [[GratuitousGerman "The Nachtkabarett"]] has over a hundred essays explaining all the imagery used in the art, costumes, stage shows, lyrics, symbols and other stuff, as well as deconstructing the lyrics, terms and so much more. It's pretty much the only way you're going to be able to understand it all, and it's taken many years to put together. It does the same for all the other albums, but in comparison to the Triptych, they're far more simple (emphasis on "in comparison to"). It says something that, with the first/last album in the series, ''Antichrist Superstar'', having its 20th anniversary in 2016, not everything is known. For example, is "The Worm" (the protagonist of ''Antichrist Superstar'') the son of Adam Kadmon (the protagonist of ''Holy Wood'') and Coma White (his love interest, as well as Alpha and Omēga, the protagonists of ''Mechanical Animals) or not? Are Alpha and Omēga alive in ''Antichrist Superstar''? What's the significance of the February 14th, 1997 show (an in-universe concert, since Alpha, Omēga and Adam are all musicians), and which protagonist is playing at it (there's one song on each album from it, which are either live or pseudo-live)? This is a case of AllThereInTheManual where the "manual" is interviews, music videos, a fansite, booklets, and an unreleased book (besides for Chapter 10). Until the book is released, and likely far after that even if it ever is, it's going to be a puzzle, and that was intentional, so answers will be slim.
** A less painful example is Manson confirming that ''The Pale Emperor'' is based on the legend of Faust, with himself as Faust.
17th Jan '15 11:17:18 AM VicGeorge2011
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* Music/{{KISS}}' ''Music/MusicFromTheElder'' tells most of its story leading up to what happens on the album in the liner notes.
17th Jan '15 11:10:21 AM VicGeorge2011
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* Music/GarthBrooks' ''Music/InTheLifeOfChrisGaines'', presented as a GreatestHitsAlbum, describes Chris' life in the liner notes: he was born in Australia to an Olympic swim coach and swimmer, but moved to America and was raised there until he dropped out of high school to form his band Crush, which scored their only hit song, "My Love Tells Me So". After one of his band members died in an airplane accident, Chris Gaines went solo with his first album ''Straight Jacket'' in 1989, followed by ''Fornucopia'' in 1991, ''Apostle'' in 1994, and ''Triangle'' in 1996.
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