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* The Siege of Riverrun. In the books, both Brynden Tully and Robb's wife Queen Jeyne Westerling remained at Riverrun rather than going to the Red Wedding, and the castle never fell to the Freys, making the Siege a desperate last stand of Robb's kingdom. In the show, however, with Jeyne's show counterpart Talisa already dead and the Blackfish only having regained Riverrun from the Freys later, the motivations for the siege become a lot thinner.
** Similarly, in the books Edmure is able to negotiate the Tully garrison's surrender because he secretly allows the Blackfish to escape. In the show, however, Brynden dies fighting after Edmure orders him taken captive, meaning that the Tully garrison only go along with Edmure's order to surrender out of a somewhat forced sense that he rather than Brynden is their "rightful lord".
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* Back in season 1, Aliser Thorne is sent south with the still-twitching hand removed from Othor the wight in order to present it in King's Landing and gain the crown's support. However, Aliser Thorn isn't seen at any point in season 2 or 3, with the only request for aid being delivered by raven - Thorne eventually reappearing in season 4 with no explanation. In the book, he was kept waiting for days by Tyrion (who personally dislikes him and doesn't take the threat of the White Walkers seriously), and by the time he was granted an audience, the hand had rotted until it had ceased moving, resulting in Thorne being laughed out of the capital.
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Just thought I'd mention this because it doesn't appear to be under Aborted Arc either

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* Back in season 1, Aliser Thorne is sent south with the still-twitching hand removed from Othor the wight in order to present it in King's Landing and gain the crown's support. However, Aliser Thorn isn't seen at any point in season 2 or 3, with the only request for aid being delivered by raven - Thorne eventually reappearing in season 4 with no explanation. In the book, he was kept waiting for days by Tyrion (who personally dislikes him and doesn't take the threat of the White Walkers seriously), and by the time he was granted an audience, the hand had rotted until it had ceased moving, resulting in Thorne being laughed out of the capital.
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* In "Kissed By Fire", Jaime refuses milk of the poppy for his surgery without offering an explanation. In the books (and the DVD commentary) it's explained that Jaime doesn't trust Qyburn not to beg forgiveness rather than permission and take his whole arm off while he's incapacitated.

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* In "Kissed By Fire", Jaime refuses milk of the poppy for his surgery without offering an explanation. In the books (and the DVD commentary) it's explained that Jaime doesn't trust Qyburn not to beg "beg forgiveness rather than permission permission" and take taking his whole arm off (instead of just sealing the wound) while he's incapacitated.
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* Sansa refuses to escape King's Landing with the Hound in "Blackwater", as she does in the books. However, in the books the Hound is menacing to the point of a NearRapeExperience and Sansa already has her own escape plan, neither of which are in the show, greatly reducing her reasons for refusing.

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* Sansa refuses to escape King's Landing with the Hound in "Blackwater", as she does in the books. However, in the books the Hound is menacing to the point of a NearRapeExperience and Sansa already has her own escape plan, neither of which are in the show, greatly reducing which leaves her reasons for refusing.with no real reason to refuse.



* In a more meta sense, the AdaptationalVillainy of Stannis Baratheon makes it unclear why Ser Davos is in the show at all. In the books, Davos and Melisandre act as counterpart advisors to Stannis, acting as a form of Angel and Devil on his shoulders, although in a more complicated Reason and Principles vs. Pragmatism and TheNeedsOfTheMany way. With the AdaptationalVillainy of Stannis AND Melisandre, and the fact Stannis in the show doesn't particularly value Davos's input anyway, why is Davos a character? This is even worse after Stannis dies, as there appears no reason why any other character would care about Ser Davos or listen to his input.

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* In a more meta sense, the AdaptationalVillainy of Stannis Baratheon makes it unclear why Ser Davos is in the show at all. In the books, Davos and Melisandre act as counterpart advisors to Stannis, acting as a form of Angel and Devil on his shoulders, although in a more complicated Reason and Principles vs. Pragmatism and TheNeedsOfTheMany way. With the AdaptationalVillainy of Stannis AND Melisandre, and the fact that Stannis in the show doesn't particularly value Davos's input anyway, why is Davos a character? This is even worse after Stannis dies, as there appears to be no reason why any other character would care about Ser Davos or listen to his input.
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** Moreover, in the books Robb needs Walder's allegiance because his plan is to travel North to deal with the Ironborn, rather than needing more troops.
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* Rickard Karstark defiantly tells Robb that he will be cursed forever if he executes him in Season 3, claiming that he and Robb are kin, but it's never explained ''how'' the two men are kin, leaving some viewers to assume Rickard simply meant ''all'' Northerners are family in the symbolic sense. The books explain that Robb and Rickard are, in fact, (very) distant cousins: the Karstarks are descended from Karlon Stark who left Winterfell centuries before the Targaryan Conquest. His castle was known as "Karl's Hold" (later "Karhold") and his family "The Karhold Starks" (later just "The Karstarks").

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* Rickard Karstark defiantly tells Robb that he will be cursed forever if he executes him in Season 3, claiming that he and Robb are kin, but it's never explained ''how'' the two men are kin, leaving some viewers to assume Rickard simply meant ''all'' Northerners are family in the symbolic sense. The books explain that Robb and Rickard are, in fact, (very) distant cousins: the Karstarks are descended from Karlon Stark who left Winterfell centuries before the Targaryan Conquest. His castle was known as "Karl's Hold" (later "Karhold") and his family "The Karhold Starks" (later just "The Karstarks"). Even in the book, however, his claims about Robb being a kin-slayer are pretty much rubbish since they're something like 10th cousins.
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* In a more meta sense, the AdaptationalVillainy of Stannis Baratheon makes it unclear why Ser Davos is in the show at all. In the books, Davos and Melisandre act as counterpart advisors to Stannis, acting as a form of Angel and Devil on his shoulders, although in a more complicated Reason and Principles vs. Pragmatism and NeedsOfTheMany way. With the AdaptationalVillainy of Stannis AND Melisandre, and the fact Stannis in the show doesn't particularly value Davos's input anyway, why is Davos a character? This is even worse after Stannis dies, as there appears no reason why any other character would care about Ser Davos or listen to his input.

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* In a more meta sense, the AdaptationalVillainy of Stannis Baratheon makes it unclear why Ser Davos is in the show at all. In the books, Davos and Melisandre act as counterpart advisors to Stannis, acting as a form of Angel and Devil on his shoulders, although in a more complicated Reason and Principles vs. Pragmatism and NeedsOfTheMany TheNeedsOfTheMany way. With the AdaptationalVillainy of Stannis AND Melisandre, and the fact Stannis in the show doesn't particularly value Davos's input anyway, why is Davos a character? This is even worse after Stannis dies, as there appears no reason why any other character would care about Ser Davos or listen to his input.
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* In a more meta sense, the AdaptationalVillainy of Stannis Baratheon makes it unclear why Ser Davos is in the show at all. In the books, Davos and Melisandre act as counterpart advisors to Stannis, acting as a form of Angel and Devil on his shoulders, although in a more complicated Reason and Principles vs. Pragmatism and NeedsOfTheMany way. With the AdaptationalVillainy of Stannis AND Melisandre, and the fact Stannis in the show doesn't particularly value Davos's input anyway, why is Davos a character? This is even worse after Stannis dies, as there appears no reason why any other character would care about Ser Davos or listen to his input.
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* Euron retains his personal sigil of the Greyjoys' golden kraken [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defacement_(flag) defaced]] by a slitted red eye just like in the novels, but in the books the red eye is derived from Euron's RedRightHand, an explanation that's lost since the show AdaptedOut his "[[BlackEyesOfEvil crow's eye]]".

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* Euron retains his In the books, Euron's personal sigil of is two crows holding a crown above a slitted red eye. In the show, he uses the Greyjoys' golden kraken [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defacement_(flag) defaced]] by a slitted red eye just like in the novels, but eye, even though in the books the red eye is derived from Euron's RedRightHand, an explanation that's lost since the show AdaptedOut his "[[BlackEyesOfEvil crow's eye]]".
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* The Three-eyed Raven says he's been watching with "a thousand eyes and ''one''" despite having two eyes rather than one. The phrase refers to details about the character's past that haven't been mentioned in the show.
* While Tormund is presumably settling his people in the Gift, Dolorous Edd and more importantly Ghost are inexplicably absent when Jon is attacked in "Mother's Mercy". The show later reveals that Ghost was locked in a kennel, but given that keeping Ghost kenneled was originally a petulant command by Thorne that Jon obviously resented in "Mockingbird" and clearly would've rescinded as lord commander, and that Ghost was free to save Gilly and Sam even with Jon gone just three episodes ago in "The Gift", it's still a rather questionable explanation. In the books, Edd is away serving as steward of Long Barrow and Jon has locked Ghost up specifically to keep him from attacking the wildling skinchanger Borroq's boar. The next episode has Edd and Davos find the body later the same night which sparks a brief Watch civil war; apparently the murder was just very quiet in the show.
* Before his execution in Season 3, Rickard Karstark defiantly tells Robb that he will be cursed forever if he kills him, claiming that he and Robb are kin. But it's never explained ''how'' the two men are kin, leaving some viewers to assume that he simply meant that ''all'' Northerners are family in the symbolic sense. The books explain that Robb and Rickard are, in fact, (very) distant cousins: the Karstarks are descended from a branch of the Stark family who left Winterfell founded by Karlon Stark centuries before the Targaryan Conquest. His castle was known as "Karl's Hold" and later "Karhold" and the family "The Karhold Starks" (and later just "The Karstarks").
* Euron retains his personal sigil of the Greyjoys' golden kraken [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defacement_(flag) defaced]] by a slitted red eye just like in the novels but in the books the red eye is derived from Euron's RedRightHand, an explanation that was lost when the show AdaptedOut his "[[BlackEyesOfEvil crow's eye]]".
* In the books, Robert Baratheon and his brothers are related to Aerys II, as their grandmother was Rhaelle Targaryen, daughter of king Aegon V and sister of king Jaehaerys II. Robert led the Rebellion, as he (apart of the Mad King's children) had the strongest claim to the Iron Throne. Jaehaerys and Rhaelle were removed from the show, making Aerys II and queen Rhaella children of Aegon V and Betha Blackwood, rather then of Jaehaerys II and his sister-wife Shaera. Robert's paternal grandmother is unknown, so it is not explicitly explained why Melisandre considered Stannis', Gendry's and Shireen's blood "royal". The reason might be unmentioned relatives in previous generations or the fact House Baratheon was founded by Aegon the Conqueror's bastard half-brother.

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* The Three-eyed Raven says he's been watching with "a thousand eyes and ''one''" despite having two eyes rather than one. The phrase refers ''one''." In the novels this has great significance as a pointed reference to details about the character's past that haven't been mentioned identity as a famous one-eyed spymaster, but in the show.
show it's just MeaninglessMeaningfulWords since his identity is never explored and he has two good eyes.
* While Tormund is presumably settling his people in the Gift, Dolorous Edd and more importantly Ghost are inexplicably absent when Jon is attacked in "Mother's Mercy". The show later reveals that Ghost was locked in a kennel, but given that keeping Ghost kenneled was originally a petulant command by Thorne that since Jon obviously resented Thorne's petulant command that he keep Ghost kenneled in "Mockingbird" and clearly would've rescinded as lord commander, and that Ghost was free to save Gilly and Sam even with Jon gone absent just three episodes ago prior in "The Gift", it's still a rather questionable explanation. In the books, Edd is away serving as steward of Long Barrow and Jon has locked locks Ghost up specifically to keep him from attacking the a wildling skinchanger Borroq's boar. The next episode has Edd and Davos find the body later the same night which sparks a brief Watch civil war; apparently the murder was just very quiet in the show.
skinchanger's boar.
* Before his execution in Season 3, Rickard Karstark defiantly tells Robb that he will be cursed forever if he kills him, executes him in Season 3, claiming that he and Robb are kin. But kin, but it's never explained ''how'' the two men are kin, leaving some viewers to assume that he Rickard simply meant that ''all'' Northerners are family in the symbolic sense. The books explain that Robb and Rickard are, in fact, (very) distant cousins: the Karstarks are descended from a branch of the Karlon Stark family who left Winterfell founded by Karlon Stark centuries before the Targaryan Conquest. His castle was known as "Karl's Hold" (later "Karhold") and later "Karhold" and the his family "The Karhold Starks" (and later (later just "The Karstarks").
* Euron retains his personal sigil of the Greyjoys' golden kraken [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defacement_(flag) defaced]] by a slitted red eye just like in the novels novels, but in the books the red eye is derived from Euron's RedRightHand, an explanation that was that's lost when since the show AdaptedOut his "[[BlackEyesOfEvil crow's eye]]".
* In the books, Robert Baratheon and his brothers are related to Aerys II, as their grandmother was Rhaelle Targaryen, daughter of became king Aegon V and sister of king Jaehaerys II. Robert led after the Rebellion, as Rebellion because he (apart of the Mad King's children) had the strongest claim to the Iron Throne. alternative bloodline since his grandmother Rhaelle was a sister of Aerys II's father Jaehaerys and Rhaelle were removed from II. However, the show, show omits this generation, instead making Aerys II and queen Rhaella children the son of Aegon V and Betha Blackwood, rather then of Jaehaerys II and his sister-wife Shaera. tracing Robert's paternal grandmother is unknown, so it is not explicitly explained why Melisandre considered Stannis', Gendry's and Shireen's blood "royal". The reason might be unmentioned relatives in previous generations or the fact House Baratheon was founded by claim back 300 years to Aegon the Conqueror's bastard half-brother.half-brother in a "Histories and Lore" featurette. This actually leaves the Baratheons with much less royal blood than the Martells (descendants of Princess Daenerys/Maron Martell), the Velaryons (descendants of Princess Baela/Alyn Oakenfist), and certain Penroses (descendants of Princess Eleana/Ronnel Penrose), which might not affect the succession but does make it unclear why Melisandre fixates on Stannis, Gendry, and Shireen's blood as especially "royal".
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* In the books, Robert Baratheon and his brothers are related to Aerys II, as their grandmother was Rhaelle Targaryen, daughter of king Aegon V and sister of king Jaehaerys II. Robert led the Rebellion, as he (apart of the Mad King's children) had the strongest claim to the Iron Throne. Jaehaerys and Rhaelle were removed from the show, making Aerys II and queen Rhaella children of Aegon V and Betha Blackwood, rather then of Jaehaerys II and his sister-wife Shaera. Robert's paternal grandmother is unknown, so it is not explicitly explained why Melisandre considered Stannis', Gendry's and Shireen's blood "royal". The reason might be unmentioned relatives in previous generations or the fact House Baratheon was founded by Aegon the Conqueror's bastard half-brother.
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* Euron retains his personal sigil of the Greyjoys' golden kraken [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defacement_(flag) defaced]] by a slitted red eye just like in the novels but in the books the red eye is derived from Euron's RedRightHand, an explanation that was lost when the show AdaptedOut his "[[BlackEyesOfEvil crow's eye]]".
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* Before his execution in Season 3, Rickard Karstark defiantly tells Robb that he will be cursed forever if he kills him, claiming that he and Robb are kin. But it's never explained ''how'' the two men are kin, leaving some viewers to assume that he simply meant that ''all'' Northerners are family in the symbolic sense. The books explain that Robb and Rickard are, in fact,(very) distant cousins: the Karstarks are descended from a branch of the Stark family who left Winterfell founded by Karlon Stark centuries before the Targaryan Conquest. His castle was known as "Karl's Hold" and later "Karhold" and the family "The Karhold Starks" (and later just "The Karstarks").

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* Before his execution in Season 3, Rickard Karstark defiantly tells Robb that he will be cursed forever if he kills him, claiming that he and Robb are kin. But it's never explained ''how'' the two men are kin, leaving some viewers to assume that he simply meant that ''all'' Northerners are family in the symbolic sense. The books explain that Robb and Rickard are, in fact,(very) fact, (very) distant cousins: the Karstarks are descended from a branch of the Stark family who left Winterfell founded by Karlon Stark centuries before the Targaryan Conquest. His castle was known as "Karl's Hold" and later "Karhold" and the family "The Karhold Starks" (and later just "The Karstarks").
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* Before his execution in Season 3, Rickard Karstark defiantly tells Robb that he will be cursed forever if he kills him, claiming that he and Robb are kin. But it's never explained ''how'' the two men are kin, leaving some viewers to assume that he simply meant that ''all'' Northerners are family in the symbolic sense. The books explain that Robb and Rickard are, in fact, distant cousins: the Karstarks are descended from a branch of the Stark family who left Winterfell to resettle at the castle of Karhold, and became known as "The Karhold Starks" (and later just "The Karstarks").

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* Before his execution in Season 3, Rickard Karstark defiantly tells Robb that he will be cursed forever if he kills him, claiming that he and Robb are kin. But it's never explained ''how'' the two men are kin, leaving some viewers to assume that he simply meant that ''all'' Northerners are family in the symbolic sense. The books explain that Robb and Rickard are, in fact, fact,(very) distant cousins: the Karstarks are descended from a branch of the Stark family who left Winterfell to resettle at founded by Karlon Stark centuries before the Targaryan Conquest. His castle of Karhold, and became was known as "Karl's Hold" and later "Karhold" and the family "The Karhold Starks" (and later just "The Karstarks").
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* The show hasn't yet gotten around to explaining who actually sent the assassin in "The Kingsroad", leaving one of the major instigating events of the story unresolved. Jaime and Tyrion separately come to the conclusion that it was Joffrey in ''A Storm of Swords''.
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* While Tormund is presumably settling his people in the Gift, Dolorous Edd and more importantly Ghost are inexplicably absent when Jon is attacked in "Mother's Mercy". The show later reveals that Ghost was locked in a kennel, but given that keeping Ghost kenneled was originally a petulant command by Thorne that Jon obviously resented in "Mockingbird" and clearly would've rescinded as lord commander, and that Ghost was free to save Gilly and Sam even with Jon gone just three episodes ago in "The Gift", it's still a rather questionable explanation. In the books, Edd is away serving as steward of Long Barrow and Jon has locked Ghost up specifically to keep him from attacking the wildling skinchanger Borroq's boar.

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* While Tormund is presumably settling his people in the Gift, Dolorous Edd and more importantly Ghost are inexplicably absent when Jon is attacked in "Mother's Mercy". The show later reveals that Ghost was locked in a kennel, but given that keeping Ghost kenneled was originally a petulant command by Thorne that Jon obviously resented in "Mockingbird" and clearly would've rescinded as lord commander, and that Ghost was free to save Gilly and Sam even with Jon gone just three episodes ago in "The Gift", it's still a rather questionable explanation. In the books, Edd is away serving as steward of Long Barrow and Jon has locked Ghost up specifically to keep him from attacking the wildling skinchanger Borroq's boar. The next episode has Edd and Davos find the body later the same night which sparks a brief Watch civil war; apparently the murder was just very quiet in the show.
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* Before his execution in Season 3, Rickard Karstark defiantly tells Robb that he will be cursed forever if he kills him, claiming that he and Robb are kin. But it's never explained ''how'' the two men are kin, leaving some viewers to assume that he simply meant that ''all'' Northerners are family in the symbolic sense. The books explain that Robb and Rickard are, in fact, distant cousins: the Karstarks are descended from a branch of the Stark family who left Winterfell to resettle at the castle of Karhold, and became known as "The Karhold Starks" (and later just "The Karstarks").
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* While Tormund is presumably settling his people in the Gift, Dolorous Edd and more importantly Ghost are inexplicably absent when Jon is attacked in "Mother's Mercy". In the books, Edd is away serving as steward of Long Barrow and Jon has locked Ghost up to keep him from attacking the skinchanger Borroq's boar.

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* While Tormund is presumably settling his people in the Gift, Dolorous Edd and more importantly Ghost are inexplicably absent when Jon is attacked in "Mother's Mercy". The show later reveals that Ghost was locked in a kennel, but given that keeping Ghost kenneled was originally a petulant command by Thorne that Jon obviously resented in "Mockingbird" and clearly would've rescinded as lord commander, and that Ghost was free to save Gilly and Sam even with Jon gone just three episodes ago in "The Gift", it's still a rather questionable explanation. In the books, Edd is away serving as steward of Long Barrow and Jon has locked Ghost up specifically to keep him from attacking the wildling skinchanger Borroq's boar.
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* The Three-eyed Raven says he's been watching with "a thousand eyes and ''one''" despite having two eyes rather than one.
* The show hasn't yet gotten around to explaining who actually sent the assassin in "The Kingsroad", leaving one of the major instigating events of the story unresolved.

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* The Three-eyed Raven says he's been watching with "a thousand eyes and ''one''" despite having two eyes rather than one.
one. The phrase refers to details about the character's past that haven't been mentioned in the show.
* The show hasn't yet gotten around to explaining who actually sent the assassin in "The Kingsroad", leaving one of the major instigating events of the story unresolved. Jaime and Tyrion separately come to the conclusion that it was Joffrey in ''A Storm of Swords''.

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The show has a lot of elements [[AdaptationExplanationExtrication explained]] only in the [[Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire novels]]:
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* In the show, the only explanation for why Stannis can't use Melisandre's LivingShadow assassin power again is an enigmatic, "Your fires burn low, my king." In the novels, Melisandre expressly states the shadow assassins are CastFromHitPoints and that another would certainly kill Stannis, who's already become frighteningly gaunt as a result (which he [[PragmaticAdaptation understandably]] doesn't in the show).
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* Jon deals with one wight (Othor) in "The Pointy End", but nothing is ever said of the other one (Jafer Flowers) brought back at the same time. In the books, that wight kills Ser Jaremy Rykker in the yard before finally being [[LudicrousGibs hacked to pieces]] by the rest of the Watch.
* In the books, Drogo removes Mirri Maz Duur's poultice and relies on his traditional remedies instead, lending some credence to Mirri (who criticized the Dothraki methods) when his wound gets infected. In the TV series, they only use Mirri's method and Drogo gets infected anyway, yet Daenerys still trusts her to heal him again.
* Sansa refuses to escape King's Landing with the Hound in "Blackwater", as she does in the books. However, in the books the Hound is menacing to the point of a NearRapeExperience and Sansa already has her own escape plan, neither of which are in the show, greatly reducing her reasons for refusing.
* In the show, the only explanation for why Stannis can't use Melisandre's LivingShadow assassin power again is an enigmatic, "Your fires burn low, my king." In the novels, Melisandre expressly states the shadow assassins are CastFromHitPoints and that another would certainly kill Stannis, who's already become frighteningly gaunt as a result (which he [[PragmaticAdaptation understandably]] doesn't in the show).
* In the books, Barristan catches up to Daenerys at the end of her extended stay in Qarth, after word of her presence has spread extensively along the trade routes. In the show, she's just arrived in Astapor, making it a much more ContrivedCoincidence that Barristan happens to be there, especially since Astapor is only a backwater port for slaves while the heavy traffic to and from Qarth goes by way of New Ghis.
* If Craster seems overly offended by Karl simply calling him a "bastard" in "And Now His Watch Is Ended" it's because the show does not establish it as his BerserkButton by characterizing him as the resentful BastardBastard of a Night's Watch ranger as the books do.
* In "Kissed By Fire", Jaime refuses milk of the poppy for his surgery without offering an explanation. In the books (and the DVD commentary) it's explained that Jaime doesn't trust Qyburn not to beg forgiveness rather than permission and take his whole arm off while he's incapacitated.
* In Season 3, Robb declares Walder Frey the only lord with the reinforcements he needs despite there being no on-screen reference to the Freys being anywhere but with Robb since joining him in Season 1. By contrast, the books make the Frey withdrawal after Robb's marriage a notable event in several viewpoints.
* The Three-eyed Raven says he's been watching with "a thousand eyes and ''one''" despite having two eyes rather than one.
* The show hasn't yet gotten around to explaining who actually sent the assassin in "The Kingsroad", leaving one of the major instigating events of the story unresolved.
* While Tormund is presumably settling his people in the Gift, Dolorous Edd and more importantly Ghost are inexplicably absent when Jon is attacked in "Mother's Mercy". In the books, Edd is away serving as steward of Long Barrow and Jon has locked Ghost up to keep him from attacking the skinchanger Borroq's boar.
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