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** Princess Voľná Láska's parents were former Erobreseg Deer who rebelled against their herds' ways and became Neo-Alvslog Deer, ruling over the community Voľná was born in. However, in their quest to emulate the Alvslog Deer Herds, they became increasingly xenophobic, puristic, and depraved, encouraging their subjects to take hallucinogenic drugs and do "[[BestialityIsDepraved recreational activities]]" with the local wildlife. When Voľná developed precognitive sight, they turned her into a JunkieProphet and used her prophecies to lead the other "wayward" Deer Herds back to the Alvslog ways. Voľná's childhood friend, Tiszta, was betrayed by a snitch when she tried helping her and subjected to a CruelAndUnusualDeath as punishment. By the time Pokhot found Voľná, she was suffering from a drug overdose. Voľná's parents were subsequently killed in a "Calling the Terrors" sanction for their crimes, but their abuse and Tiszta's death caused her to turn to drug addiction to cope with her trauma. It took [[DontFearTheReaper Moon Ray Vaughoof]]'s intervention for her to snap out of her delusions and accept Tiszta's death, but her recovery was still a rather difficult and rocky one. No one complained when Moon Ray adopted Voľná as his daughter later on.

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** Princess Voľná Láska's parents were former Erobreseg Deer who rebelled against their herds' ways and became Neo-Alvslog Deer, ruling over the community Voľná was born in. However, in their quest to emulate the Alvslog Deer Herds, they became increasingly xenophobic, puristic, xenophobic and depraved, encouraging their subjects to take hallucinogenic drugs and do "[[BestialityIsDepraved recreational activities]]" with the local wildlife. When Voľná developed precognitive sight, precognition, they turned her into a JunkieProphet and used exploited her prophecies to lead the other "wayward" Deer Herds back to the Alvslog ways. prophecies. Voľná's childhood friend, Tiszta, was betrayed by a snitch when she tried for helping her and subjected to a CruelAndUnusualDeath as punishment. By the time Pokhot found Voľná, she was suffering from a drug overdose. Voľná's parents were subsequently killed in a "Calling the Terrors" sanction for their crimes, but their abuse and Tiszta's death caused her to turn to drug addiction to cope with her trauma. It took [[DontFearTheReaper Moon Ray Vaughoof]]'s intervention for her to snap out of her delusions and accept Tiszta's death, but her recovery was still a rather difficult and rocky one. No one complained when Moon Ray adopted Voľná as his daughter later on.
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* Subverted with Adversus, the Grand Primeval goddess of Adversity and Misfortune. She has birthed two branches of children, the Adversai and the Efévresi; members of the former spread misfortune, conflict, and destruction, while members of the latter encourage innovation among divine/mortal sapientkind and oppose their mother. However, Adversus deeply loves all of her children and even encourages the Efévresi to oppose her, as encouraging the growth of sapientkind through misfortune and conflict is necessary if they want to survive future threats. According to Ergaleía, he expected Adversus to be angry when he inspired sapientkind to oppose her and build inventions to help themselves weather her disasters, only to find his mother felt [[SoProudOfYou quite the opposite]] and hugged him as a reward for his actions. The only children Adversus does not love are those who cause destruction without purpose, like Surtr, whom she wanted dead for his sadism and his actions against Cervidia.
* Defied by High King Kaldr. After adopting a then-infant Flœrð, Kaldr learned that his son is the central figure of a prophecy that would doom and destroy the Hoyklan Deer Pantheon, prompting his fellow deities to advocate for Flœrð's death and/or suppression. However, thanks to Luminiferous and Choice, Kaldr realized that what others wanted for Flœrð is part of a series of {{Vicious Cycle}}s that saw many Cervidian {{Trickster God}}s abused and shunned for something that's completely not their fault, and doing the same thing to Flœrð would make him not that different from High King Irminsul, who abused Temnobog solely for being born a GodOfEvil. Kaldr wisely decided to ScrewDestiny by raising Flœrð like his own son and defending him from deities who wanted to kill him, leading to Flœrð becoming a hero instead of the villainous trickster he was expected to become.

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* Subverted with Adversus, the Grand Primeval goddess of Adversity and Misfortune.Primeval. She has birthed two branches of children, the Adversai and the Efévresi; members of the former spread misfortune, conflict, and destruction, while members of the latter encourage innovation among divine/mortal sapientkind and oppose their mother. However, Adversus deeply loves all of her children and even encourages the Efévresi to oppose her, as encouraging the growth of sapientkind through misfortune and conflict is a necessary if they want to survive future threats. part of survival. According to Ergaleía, he expected Adversus to be angry when he inspired sapientkind to oppose her and build inventions to help themselves weather her disasters, only to find his mother felt [[SoProudOfYou quite the opposite]] and hugged him as a reward for his actions. him. The only children Adversus does not love are those who cause destruction without purpose, like Surtr, whom she wanted dead for his sadism and his actions against Cervidia.
Cervidia (and by extension, the Nine Realms).
* Defied by High King Kaldr. After adopting a then-infant Flœrð, Kaldr learned that his son is the central figure of a prophecy that would doom and destroy the Hoyklan Deer Pantheon, prompting his fellow deities to advocate for Flœrð's death and/or suppression. However, thanks Thanks to Luminiferous and Choice, Kaldr realized that what others wanted for mistreating Flœrð is part of a series of {{Vicious Cycle}}s for something that saw wasn't even his fault would not only make him similar to High King Irminsul, but also perpetuate a ViciousCycle where many abused Cervidian {{Trickster God}}s abused and shunned for something that's completely not eventually betrayed their fault, pantheons in revenge and doing the same thing to Flœrð would make him not that different from High King Irminsul, who abused Temnobog solely for being born a GodOfEvil. Kaldr hatred. He wisely decided to ScrewDestiny by raising Flœrð like his own son and defending him from deities who wanted to kill him, leading to Flœrð becoming a hero instead of the villainous trickster he was expected to become.be.



* Lucky Shot's paternal grandparents, both Unicorn nobles, were incredibly emotionally and mentally abusive as well as [[FantasticRacism unrepentant bigots]]. Their [[AbusiveParents parenting]] spurred their son, Lucky Shot's father, to [[DefectorFromDecadence run away from Canterlot]] and marry a common mare, who would become Lucky Shot's mother. To get their son back, they arranged for Tribalists to kill Lucky Shot's mother... but it [[GoneHorriblyRight backfired]] when the Tribalists instigated a bombing, killing both Lucky Shot's mother and his father while heavily scarring him. Lucky Shot's grandparents then took him in, hired the Striga family to transfer his soul into the body of a Unicorn colt to 'fix' his Earth pony genes, gave him a name he absolutely hated, and tried molding him into the 'ideal' Unicorn noble scion. Lucky Shot was so miserable that when robbers broke into his home, he ''begged'' them to take him away, setting up a chain of events that led to Lucky Shot's grandparents' crimes being exposed and them being arrested by Princess Twilight/Amicitia Sparkle. However, they also ruined Lucky Shot's life in such a way that death was inevitable... but luckily, he would gain a friend and "[[HonoraryUncle Uncle]]" in [[DontFearTheReaper Moon Ray Vaughoof]].

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* Lucky Shot's paternal grandparents, both Unicorn nobles, were incredibly emotionally and mentally abusive as well as [[FantasticRacism unrepentant bigots]]. Their [[AbusiveParents parenting]] spurred their son, Lucky Shot's father, to [[DefectorFromDecadence run away from Canterlot]] and marry a common mare, who would become Lucky Shot's mother. To get their son back, they Lucky Shot's grandparents arranged for Tribalists to kill Lucky Shot's mother... but it [[GoneHorriblyRight backfired]] when the Tribalists instigated a bombing, killing both Lucky Shot's mother and his father while heavily scarring him. Lucky Shot's grandparents then took him in, hired the Striga family to transfer his soul into the body of a Unicorn colt to 'fix' "fix" his Earth pony genes, gave him a name he absolutely hated, and tried molding him into the 'ideal' "ideal" Unicorn noble scion. Lucky Shot was so miserable that when robbers broke into his home, he ''begged'' them to take him away, setting up a chain of events that led to Lucky Shot's grandparents' crimes grandparents being exposed and them being arrested by Princess Twilight/Amicitia Sparkle. However, they also ruined Lucky Shot's life in such a way that death was inevitable... but luckily, he would gain a friend and "[[HonoraryUncle Uncle]]" in [[DontFearTheReaper Moon Ray Vaughoof]].



* Each of the Dark Purveyors' birth parents were horribly abusive to them as children, which makes their adoption by the [[GodOfEvil Four Terrors]] all the more relieving for them.
** Prince Dühroham Erobreseg's parents were warmongering [[AristocratsAreEvil nobles]] who treated their son like a weapon, and groomed Dühroham for the role by experimenting on him and [[EmotionSuppression stamping out his empathy]] (though they didn't consider outright removing it, which Dühroham considers himself lucky for). Any failure on his part was met with harsh punishment. When Dühroham, through a chance encounter/fight with Blue Suede Heartstrings, [[HeelRealization started realizing that what he and his parents were doing is wrong]], his parents amped up the abuse, believing he had gotten "soft". Eventually, Dühroham [[RageBreakingPoint snapped]] and massacred the army he was in when he realized he was sent to commit genocide against a peaceful kingdom. When he is encountered by a sojourning [[WarGod Yarost]], Dühroham engaged him in a [[CurbStompBattle short-lived fight]] before breaking down crying and laughing over how he became a "monster". Dühroham's parents (and the rest of his native kingdom) met their ends in the following "Calling the Terrors" sanction, but their abuse was so horrific that he became an extremely ShellShockedVeteran who took a long time to overcome his guilt and psychological conditioning. Eventually, after Ascending to godhood, he proceeded to return the favor by punishing his parents' damned shades for their crimes, including subjecting them to the same experiments that they performed on him as a foal.
** Princess Voľná Láska's parents were former Erobreseg Deer who rebelled against their herds' ways and became members of the Neo-Alvslog Deer Herds, ruling over the community Voľná was born in. However, in their quest to emulate the Alvslog Deer Herds and reconnect with nature, they became increasingly xenophobic, puristic, and depraved, encouraging their subjects to take hallucinogenic drugs and do "[[BestialityIsDepraved recreational activities]]" with the local wildlife. When Voľná showed signs of precognitive abilities, they exploited their daughter by turning her into a JunkieProphet so they can use her prophecies to lead the other "wayward" Deer Herds back to the Alvslog ways. Voľná's childhood friend, Tiszta, tried snapping her out of her drugged stupor, but thanks to a snitch, she was [[CruelAndUnusualDeath taken deep into the forests and torn apart by animals]], leading to Voľná experiencing an overdose by the time Pokhot found her. Voľná's parents were subsequently killed in a "Calling the Terrors" sanction for their crimes, but their abuse, combined with the news of Tiszta's death, sent Voľná deep into the DespairEventHorizon, turning to drug addiction to cope with her grief and alienating her adoptive family with her self-destructive behavior. It took [[DontFearTheReaper Moon Ray Vaughoof]]'s intervention for her to snap out of her delusions and accept Tiszta's death, but her road to recovery was still a rather difficult and rocky one. And when Moon Ray adopted Voľná as his daughter, no one complained since he is a ''much'' better parent than her birth parents were.
* Blacktip's parents were implied to be emotionally abusive. While they weren't outright abusive, they were [[WhyCouldntYouBeDifferent disappointed in him for not following the ways of their people]], which is essentially 'be a greedy, brutish Dragon who pillages other civilizations for fun'. This in part contributed to his overall misery and self-loathing that would plague him for most of his life.
* Queen Gossamer, one of the most depraved Griffon [[ANaziByAnyOtherName Autorists]] in the Fourth Age, never showed any sort of maternal love for her daughter, Gossamer II, at all, only grooming her to be a Pony-hating psychopath just like her. Her abuse was so much that when she died, Gossamer II was left psychologically broken. Even Monarch Wing, who suffered under Queen Gossamer II's rule, [[SympathyForTheDevil couldn't help but pity her in this regard]]. [[spoiler:During her BattleInTheCenterOfTheMind with Monarch Wing, Gossamer reveals she only sees Gossamer II as a "[[TheUnfavourite disappointment]]" and planned to use her daughter as a host body for her own soul after using Monarch Wing's as a temporary host. Fortunately, she is rendered DeaderThanDead by Monarch Wing before it could happen.]] After Monarch Wing Ascends as a Hippogriff demigoddess, [[spoiler:she reincarnates Gossamer II as an innocent newborn chick so she can be raised with genuine love the next time around]].

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* Each of the Dark Purveyors' birth parents were Purveyors had horribly abusive to them as children, childhoods, which makes their adoption by the [[GodOfEvil Four Terrors]] all the more relieving for them.
** Prince Dühroham Erobreseg's parents were warmongering [[AristocratsAreEvil nobles]] who treated their son like a weapon, and groomed Dühroham for the role by experimenting on him since foalhood and even [[EmotionSuppression stamping out his empathy]] (though they didn't consider outright removing remove it, for which Dühroham considers considered himself lucky for).lucky). Any failure on his part was met with harsh punishment. When Dühroham, through a chance encounter/fight encounter with Blue Suede Heartstrings, Heartstrings caused Dühroham to [[HeelRealization started realizing that realize what he and his parents were doing is wrong]], his parents amped up the abuse, abuse believing he had gotten "soft". Eventually, Dühroham He eventually [[RageBreakingPoint snapped]] and massacred the army he was in when he realized he was sent to commit genocide against a peaceful kingdom. When Erobreseg Deer kingdom, massacring the army he is encountered by a was part of. A sojourning [[WarGod Yarost]], Dühroham engaged him in a [[CurbStompBattle short-lived fight]] before breaking down crying Yarost]] found and laughing over how he became a "monster". adopted Dühroham, with Dühroham's parents (and the rest of his native kingdom) met their ends killed in the following "Calling the Terrors" sanction, but their his foalhood abuse was so horrific that he became an extremely ShellShockedVeteran who it took him a long time to overcome his guilt and psychological conditioning. Eventually, after After Ascending to godhood, he proceeded to return Dühroham returned the favor by punishing his parents' damned shades for their crimes, including subjecting them to the same experiments that they performed on him as a foal.
** Princess Voľná Láska's parents were former Erobreseg Deer who rebelled against their herds' ways and became members of the Neo-Alvslog Deer Herds, Deer, ruling over the community Voľná was born in. However, in their quest to emulate the Alvslog Deer Herds and reconnect with nature, Herds, they became increasingly xenophobic, puristic, and depraved, encouraging their subjects to take hallucinogenic drugs and do "[[BestialityIsDepraved recreational activities]]" with the local wildlife. When Voľná showed signs of developed precognitive abilities, sight, they exploited their daughter by turning turned her into a JunkieProphet so they can use and used her prophecies to lead the other "wayward" Deer Herds back to the Alvslog ways. Voľná's childhood friend, Tiszta, was betrayed by a snitch when she tried snapping helping her out of her drugged stupor, but thanks and subjected to a snitch, she was [[CruelAndUnusualDeath taken deep into the forests and torn apart by animals]], leading to Voľná experiencing an overdose by CruelAndUnusualDeath as punishment. By the time Pokhot found her. Voľná, she was suffering from a drug overdose. Voľná's parents were subsequently killed in a "Calling the Terrors" sanction for their crimes, but their abuse, combined with the news of abuse and Tiszta's death, sent Voľná deep into the DespairEventHorizon, turning death caused her to turn to drug addiction to cope with her grief and alienating her adoptive family with her self-destructive behavior. trauma. It took [[DontFearTheReaper Moon Ray Vaughoof]]'s intervention for her to snap out of her delusions and accept Tiszta's death, but her road to recovery was still a rather difficult and rocky one. And No one complained when Moon Ray adopted Voľná as his daughter, no one complained since he is a ''much'' better parent than her birth parents were.
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* Blacktip's parents were implied to be emotionally abusive. While they weren't outright abusive, as they were [[WhyCouldntYouBeDifferent disappointed in him for not following the ways of their people]], which is essentially 'be i.e. "be a greedy, brutish Dragon who pillages other civilizations for fun'. fun". This in part contributed to his Blacktip's overall misery and self-loathing that would plague him for most of his life.
* Queen Gossamer, one of the most depraved Griffon [[ANaziByAnyOtherName Autorists]] in the Fourth Age, never showed any sort of maternal love for her daughter, Gossamer II, at all, only grooming her to be a Pony-hating psychopath just like her. Her abuse was so much that when When she died, Gossamer II was left psychologically broken. Even Monarch Wing, who suffered under Queen Gossamer II's rule, [[SympathyForTheDevil couldn't help but pity her in this regard]].her]]. [[spoiler:During her BattleInTheCenterOfTheMind with Monarch Wing, Gossamer reveals she only sees Gossamer II as a "[[TheUnfavourite disappointment]]" and planned to use her daughter as a host body for her own soul after using Monarch Wing's as a temporary host. Fortunately, she is rendered DeaderThanDead by Monarch Wing before it could happen.]] After Monarch Wing Ascends as a Hippogriff demigoddess, [[spoiler:she reincarnates Gossamer II as an innocent newborn chick so she can be raised with genuine love the next time around]].
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* Hol Horse's father was violently abusive to him and beat him quite frequently, with Hol Horse's older sister trying to protect him by bearing the brunt of their father's beatings. One day, the beatings got especially bad, causing Hol Horse to manifest his Stand, [[CoolGun Emperor]], for the first time and fatally shoot his father. While his father [[KarmicDeath undoubtedly deserved it]], the incident traumatized Hol Horse so much that he [[TraumaInducedAmnesia forgot how and why he manifested Emperor in the first place]]. He only remembers it many years later when he is helping the Stardust Crusaders fight his ex-boss, Godly Brand, who was just as abusive if not worse than Hol Horse's father had been.

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* Hol Horse's father was violently abusive to him and beat him quite frequently, with Hol Horse's older sister trying to protect him by bearing the brunt of their father's beatings. One day, the beatings got especially bad, causing Hol Horse to manifest his Stand, [[CoolGun Emperor]], Emperor, for the first time and fatally shoot his father. While his father [[KarmicDeath undoubtedly deserved it]], the incident traumatized Hol Horse so much that he [[TraumaInducedAmnesia forgot how and why he manifested Emperor in the first place]]. He only remembers it many years later when he is helping the Stardust Crusaders fight his ex-boss, Godly Brand, who was just as abusive if not worse than Hol Horse's father had been.
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* Hol Horse's father was violently abusive to him and beat him quite frequently, with Hol Horse's older sister trying to protect him by bearing the brunt of their father's beatings. One day, the beatings got especially bad, causing Hol Horse to manifest his Stand, [[CoolGun Emperor]], for the first time and fatally shoot his father. While his father [[KarmicDeath undoubtedly deserved it]], the incident traumatized Hol Horse so much that he [[TraumaInducedAmnesia forgot how and why he manifested Emperor in the first place]]. He only remembers it many years later when he is helping the Stardust Crusaders fight his ex-boss, Godly Brand, who was just as abusive if not worse than his father had been.

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* Hol Horse's father was violently abusive to him and beat him quite frequently, with Hol Horse's older sister trying to protect him by bearing the brunt of their father's beatings. One day, the beatings got especially bad, causing Hol Horse to manifest his Stand, [[CoolGun Emperor]], for the first time and fatally shoot his father. While his father [[KarmicDeath undoubtedly deserved it]], the incident traumatized Hol Horse so much that he [[TraumaInducedAmnesia forgot how and why he manifested Emperor in the first place]]. He only remembers it many years later when he is helping the Stardust Crusaders fight his ex-boss, Godly Brand, who was just as abusive if not worse than his Hol Horse's father had been.
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** He was also this to his unborn son, [[spoiler:High King Bogolenya]]. After having a prophetic dream about his unborn son potentially leading mortal Deerkind into a GoldenAge, Irminsul vicariously treated him as MyGreatestSecondChance, and persuaded his then-pregnant wife, Arvan, to let him "bless" their son with unparalleled compassion, purity, and virtue. What Irminsul intended to do was erase his son's inner evil so he'll be perfect and flawless, which not only killed the unborn fawn in-utero, but irrevocably divided him into his good and evil halves. Irminsul tried making up for this by [[ParentalFavoritism lavishing the pure Belyolen with love and praise]] while abusing Temnobog for being born 'evil', despite Temnobog not doing anything to deserve it. Come the "Final Ragnarok Crisis", [[spoiler:Bogolenya emphatically disowns the Elternteil Deer Pantheon as his family right after Symvíosi fuses Belyolen and Temnobog together to fight High King Ragnarøkkr, and names himself after the Bogolenya Deer Pantheon to separate himself from Irminsul's ambitions]].

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** He was also this to his unborn son, [[spoiler:High King Bogolenya]]. After having a prophetic dream about his unborn son potentially leading mortal Deerkind into a GoldenAge, golden age, Irminsul vicariously treated him as MyGreatestSecondChance, and persuaded his then-pregnant wife, Arvan, to let him "bless" their son with unparalleled compassion, purity, and virtue. What Irminsul intended to do was erase his son's inner evil so he'll be perfect and flawless, which not only killed the unborn fawn in-utero, but irrevocably divided him into his good and evil halves. Irminsul tried making up for this by [[ParentalFavoritism lavishing the pure Belyolen with love and praise]] while abusing Temnobog for being born 'evil', despite Temnobog not doing anything to deserve it. Come the "Final Ragnarok Crisis", [[spoiler:Bogolenya emphatically disowns the Elternteil Deer Pantheon as his family right after Symvíosi fuses Belyolen and Temnobog together to fight High King Ragnarøkkr, and names himself after the Bogolenya Deer Pantheon to separate himself from Irminsul's ambitions]].
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* Hol Horse's father was violently abusive to him and beat him quite frequently, with Hol Horse's older sister trying to protect him by bearing the brunt of their father's beatings. One day, the beatings got especially bad, causing Hol Horse to manifest his Stand, [[CoolGun Emperor]], for the first time and fatally shoot his father. While his father [[KarmicDeath undoubtedly deserved it]], the incident traumatized Hol Horse so much that he [[TraumaInducedAmnesia forgot how and why he manifested Emperor in the first place]]. He only remembers it many years later when he is helping the Stardust Crusaders fight his ex-boss, Godly Brand, who was just as abusive if not worse than his father had been.
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In ''Fanfic/CodexEquus'', there are several bad parents to counter the number of GoodParents on the titular world.

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In ''Fanfic/CodexEquus'', there are several [[AbusiveParents bad parents parents]] to counter the number of GoodParents on the titular world.
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* Subverted with Temnobog himself - while he embodies Deerkind's Evil and thus is no loving parent by normal standards, he really loves his children in his own way, even though he does encourage their innate evil as per his nature. He was really heartbroken when four of his children betrayed the family to either side with Ispita after she became a Fallen goddess, or commit heinous crimes that even Temnobog wouldn't approve of, but he still had to punish them according to their actions. So those who sided with Ispita were devoured and slowly digested, while the others were stripped of their powers and identities, and reduced to immortal playthings for the siblings that remained loyal to Temnobog. And while the Four Terrors commit very heinous acts in the name of their father, it's for [[GoodNeedsEvil altruistic reasons]] and they absolutely adore Temnobog, [[SoProudOfYou and he feels the same way]].

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* Subverted with Temnobog himself - -- while he embodies Deerkind's Evil and thus is no loving parent by normal standards, he really loves his children in his own way, even though he does encourage their innate evil as per his nature. He was really heartbroken when four of his children betrayed the family to either side with Ispita after she became a Fallen goddess, or commit heinous crimes that even Temnobog wouldn't approve of, but he still had to punish them according to their actions. So those who sided with Ispita were devoured and slowly digested, while the others were stripped of their powers and identities, and reduced to immortal playthings for the siblings that remained loyal to Temnobog. And while the Four Terrors commit very heinous acts in the name of their father, it's for [[GoodNeedsEvil altruistic reasons]] and they absolutely adore Temnobog, [[SoProudOfYou and he feels the same way]].



* Emperor Blackthorn, being the counterpart of Empress Blackrose in almost every way, is a horrible parent. When one of his First-Spawn sons, King Rhyniognatha, engineered what was called "The Fratricide" in an attempt to remain his father's sole favorite, Blackthorn sealed him yet did nothing about the traditions of backstabbing and treachery that would be common among his sons and other Summer Court Changelings - while it's debated in-universe whether he let it happen to punish his sons' incompetence, root out the weak among them, or just plain didn't care, the fact is that he still let his sons kill each other in their bids for power, and even encouraged it. However, he still respects most of them, especially if they had proven themselves worthy, and is generally careful enough to retain most of their loyalty (mostly by letting them do whatever they want so long as they help him run errands, and avoid doing anything to make them resentful of him).

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* Emperor Blackthorn, being the counterpart of Empress Blackrose in almost every way, is a horrible parent. When one of his First-Spawn sons, King Rhyniognatha, engineered what was called "The Fratricide" in an attempt to remain his father's sole favorite, Blackthorn sealed him yet did nothing about the traditions of backstabbing and treachery that would be common among his sons and other Summer Court Changelings - -- while it's debated in-universe whether he let it happen to punish his sons' incompetence, root out the weak among them, or just plain didn't care, the fact is that he still let his sons kill each other in their bids for power, and even encouraged it. However, he still respects most of them, especially if they had proven themselves worthy, and is generally careful enough to retain most of their loyalty (mostly by letting them do whatever they want so long as they help him run errands, and avoid doing anything to make them resentful of him).



* The mortal father of Prince Touha, the Deer-Draconequus god of Lust, Passion, and Desire, was an abusive father in life. While he originally loved Touha and taught him how to play the violin, he started resenting how his son inexplicably managed to retain his beauty and vitality while he became feeble as he aged. He became so wicked and desperate that during a 'Calling of the Terrors' event, he tried emotionally manipulating Touha into sparing him by evoking their familial ties as father and son. When Touha refused and killed him anyway, he spent his existence in Pokhot's hell-fief stewing in his own hatred towards his son for robbing him of what he felt was rightfully his. Despite the mistreatment he received, Touha loved his father to the point of sinking deep into denial after killing/damning him, forcing Pokhot to intervene when his denial [[LotusEaterMachine goes too far]]. It was only after visiting his father in Pokhot's hell-fief and being forced to see how much his father hated him that he realized his father is too far gone to be redeemed, and moved on from his grief.
* Ispita is a genuinely abusive EvilMatriarch. Unlike her ex-lover, Temnobog, who loves and praises his kids for testing mortals with their innate Evil natures, Ispita only loves her children if they're loyal and useful to her and her plans. Notably, when two of her children, Kolektor and Dark Illustration, were defeated and/or killed, she reacted rather heartlessly, just shrugging and saying "Oh well, you win some you lose some" in regards to her latter son. She also viciously abused Cudnost for embodying Virtue and thus being completely resistant to her attempts to corrupt her, and has expressed the desire to kill her during a confrontation with her pure daughter in the "Temptation Unbound" crisis. The Four Terrors remember her before her Fall as a lustful and sadistic yet loving mother, but when she became a Fallen goddess and caused four of their own siblings to side with her, the Four Terrors were utterly heartbroken, traumatized, and enraged by her betrayal.

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* The mortal father of Prince Touha, the Deer-Draconequus god of Lust, Passion, and Desire, was an abusive father in life. While he originally loved Touha and taught him how to play the violin, he started resenting how his son for inexplicably managed to retain retaining his beauty and vitality while he himself became feeble as he aged. He became so wicked and desperate that during a 'Calling "Calling of the Terrors' Terrors" event, he tried emotionally manipulating Touha into sparing him by evoking their familial ties as father and son. When Touha refused and killed him anyway, he spent his existence in Pokhot's hell-fief stewing in his own hatred towards his son for robbing him of what he felt was rightfully his. Despite the mistreatment he received, Touha loved his father to the point of sinking deep so much that he sank into denial after killing/damning him, forcing Pokhot and his siblings to intervene when his denial [[LotusEaterMachine goes went too far]]. It was only after visiting his father in Pokhot's hell-fief and being forced to see how much his father hated him that he realized his father the latter is too far gone to be redeemed, and moved on from his grief.
* Ispita is a genuinely abusive EvilMatriarch. Unlike her ex-lover, Temnobog, who loves and praises his kids for testing mortals with their innate Evil evil natures, Ispita only loves her children if they're loyal and useful to her and her plans. Notably, when two of her children, Kolektor and Dark Illustration, were defeated and/or killed, she reacted rather heartlessly, just shrugging and saying "Oh well, you win some you lose some" in regards to her latter son. She also viciously abused Cudnost for embodying Virtue and (and thus being completely resistant to her attempts to corrupt her, her) to the point of leaving scars, and has expressed the desire to kill her during a confrontation with her pure daughter in the "Temptation Unbound" crisis. The Four Terrors remember her before her Fall as a lustful and sadistic yet loving mother, but when she became a Fallen goddess and caused four of their own siblings to side with her, the Four Terrors were utterly heartbroken, traumatized, and enraged by her betrayal.



* The mortal parents of [[VainSorceress Queen Eclaira]] were rulers of a Third Age kingdom obsessed with beauty, fashion, and cuisines, and they bore children who were just as beautiful and fashionable as they. Unfortunately, when Eclaira was born mediocre-looking despite her efforts to keep up with her family, her parents proved to be emotionally and mentally abusive, showering endless disappointment on her for her apperance while doing nothing as their other royal children, their nobles' children, and their common subjects scorned, bullied, and abused her as well. Eclaira became a BigEater to alleviate her increasing misery, but that only gave her family and subjects [[YouAreFat more excuses to torment her]]. Eventually, Eclaira snapped from the abuse, and with the help of Overlord Vondur ([[HappilyAdopted who became her adoptive uncle]]), she gained the knowledge, tools, and skills she needed to become the 'fairest of them all' and unleash her long-awaited RoaringRampageOfRevenge against her foalhood kingdom for its mistreatment. Naturally, [[LaserGuidedKarma Eclaira's own parents would be among those who were devoured, their beauty magically drained to enhance the physical beauty of their abused daughter]].

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* The mortal parents of [[VainSorceress Queen Eclaira]] were rulers of a Third Age kingdom obsessed with beauty, fashion, and cuisines, and they bore children who were just as beautiful and fashionable as they. Unfortunately, when Eclaira was born mediocre-looking despite her efforts to keep up with her family, mediocre-looking, her parents proved to be were emotionally and mentally abusive, abusive to her, showering endless disappointment on her for her apperance despite her efforts to keep up with her family, while doing nothing as their other royal children, their nobles' children, and their common subjects scorned, bullied, and abused her as well. Eclaira became a BigEater to alleviate her increasing misery, but that only gave her family and subjects [[YouAreFat more excuses to torment her]]. Eventually, Eclaira snapped from the abuse, and with the help of Overlord Vondur ([[HappilyAdopted who became her adoptive uncle]]), she gained the knowledge, tools, and skills she needed to become the 'fairest of them all' and unleash her long-awaited RoaringRampageOfRevenge against her foalhood kingdom for its mistreatment. Naturally, [[LaserGuidedKarma Eclaira's own parents would be among those who were devoured, their beauty magically drained to enhance the physical beauty of their abused daughter]].



* [[Literature/{{Matilda}} Mighty Valley]]'s biological parents were, in the words of the Terran Royal Family, "utter failures as parents in every conceivable way". They left her behind as a baby in the carriage she arrived home in after her birth, and they were hedonists who preferred to sate their own desires instead of looking after her. Her father [[ParentalFavoritism blatantly favored her older brother]], and spent much of his time [[FollowInMyFootsteps training his son to become a con artist like him]]. Mighty Valley's parents were also staunch anti-intellectuals, which triggered her PsychicPowers - her father punished her for reading by tearing up one of her books and forcing her to listen to a mindless radio show against her will, leading to Mighty Valley unconsciously making the radio explode with [[MindOverMatter psychic telekinesis]]. When her parents came under investigation by Grittish authorities, Mighty Valley took the chance to make them sign parental custody over to her teacher, Honey Bee, who had been a much better parental figure to her than them. This was declared by many InUniverse to be the one good thing her parents did for her, though it didn't save them from being arrested after they tried fleeing the country.

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* [[Literature/{{Matilda}} Mighty Valley]]'s biological parents were, in the words of the Terran Royal Family, "utter failures as parents in every conceivable way". They left her behind as a baby in the carriage she arrived home in after her birth, and they were hedonists who preferred to sate their own desires instead of looking after her. Her father [[ParentalFavoritism blatantly favored her older brother]], and spent much of his time [[FollowInMyFootsteps training his son to become a con artist like him]]. Mighty Valley's parents were also staunch anti-intellectuals, which triggered her PsychicPowers - -- her father punished her for reading by tearing up one of her books and forcing her to listen to a mindless radio show against her will, leading to Mighty Valley unconsciously making the radio explode with [[MindOverMatter psychic telekinesis]]. When her parents came under investigation by Grittish authorities, Mighty Valley took the chance to make them sign parental custody over to her teacher, Honey Bee, who had been a much better parental figure to her than them. This was declared by many InUniverse to be the one good thing her parents did for her, though it didn't save them from being arrested after they tried fleeing the country.



** Prince Dühroham Erobreseg's parents were warmongering [[AristocratsAreEvil nobles]] who treated their son like a weapon and groomed Dühroham for the role by experimenting on him and [[EmotionSuppression stamping out his empathy]] (though they didn't consider outright removing it, something that Dühroham considers himself lucky for). Any failure on his part was met with harsh punishment. When Dühroham, through a chance encounter/fight with Blue Suede Heartstrings, [[HeelRealization started realizing that what he and his parents were doing is wrong]], his parents amped up the abuse, believing he had gotten 'soft'. Eventually, Dühroham [[RageBreakingPoint snapped]] and massacred the army he was in when he realized he was sent to commit genocide against a peaceful kingdom. When he is encountered by a sojourning [[WarGod Yarost]], Dühroham engaged him in a [[CurbStompBattle short-lived fight]] before breaking down crying and laughing over how he became a "monster". Dühroham's parents (and the rest of his native kingdom) would meet their end in the following 'Calling the Terrors' sanction, but their abuse was so horrific that he became an extremely ShellShockedVeteran who took a long time to overcome his guilt and psychological conditioning. Eventually, after Ascending to godhood, he proceeded to return the favor by punishing his parents' damned shades for their crimes, including subjecting them to the same experiments that they performed on him as a foal.
** Princess Voľná Láska's parents were former Erobreseg Deer who rebelled against their herds' ways and became members of the Neo-Alvslog Deer Herds, ruling over the community Voľná was born in. However, in their quest to emulate the Alvslog Deer Herds and reconnect with nature, they became increasingly xenophobic and puristic, and encouraged their subjects to take hallucinogenic drugs and do '[[BestialityIsDepraved recreational activities]]' with the local wildlife. When Voľná showed signs of precognitive abilities, they exploited their daughter by turning her into a JunkieProphet so they can use her prophecies to lead the other 'wayward' Deer Herds back to the Alvslog ways. Voľná's childhood friend, Tiszta, tried snapping her out of her drugged stupor, but thanks to a snitch, she was [[CruelAndUnusualDeath taken deep into the forests and torn apart by animals]], leading to Voľná experiencing an overdose by the time Pokhot found her. Voľná's parents were subsequently killed and damned by the Four Terrors for their crimes, but their abuse, combined with the news of Tiszta's death sent Voľná deep into the DespairEventHorizon, turning to drug addiction in her attempts to cope with her grief and alienating her adoptive family with her self-destructive behavior. It took [[DontFearTheReaper Moon Ray Vaughoof]]'s intervention for her to snap out of her delusions and accept Tiszta's death, but her road to recovery was still a rather difficult and rocky one. And when Moon Ray adopted Voľná as his daughter, no one complained since he is a ''much'' better parent than her birth parents were.

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** Prince Dühroham Erobreseg's parents were warmongering [[AristocratsAreEvil nobles]] who treated their son like a weapon weapon, and groomed Dühroham for the role by experimenting on him and [[EmotionSuppression stamping out his empathy]] (though they didn't consider outright removing it, something that which Dühroham considers himself lucky for). Any failure on his part was met with harsh punishment. When Dühroham, through a chance encounter/fight with Blue Suede Heartstrings, [[HeelRealization started realizing that what he and his parents were doing is wrong]], his parents amped up the abuse, believing he had gotten 'soft'."soft". Eventually, Dühroham [[RageBreakingPoint snapped]] and massacred the army he was in when he realized he was sent to commit genocide against a peaceful kingdom. When he is encountered by a sojourning [[WarGod Yarost]], Dühroham engaged him in a [[CurbStompBattle short-lived fight]] before breaking down crying and laughing over how he became a "monster". Dühroham's parents (and the rest of his native kingdom) would meet met their end ends in the following 'Calling "Calling the Terrors' Terrors" sanction, but their abuse was so horrific that he became an extremely ShellShockedVeteran who took a long time to overcome his guilt and psychological conditioning. Eventually, after Ascending to godhood, he proceeded to return the favor by punishing his parents' damned shades for their crimes, including subjecting them to the same experiments that they performed on him as a foal.
** Princess Voľná Láska's parents were former Erobreseg Deer who rebelled against their herds' ways and became members of the Neo-Alvslog Deer Herds, ruling over the community Voľná was born in. However, in their quest to emulate the Alvslog Deer Herds and reconnect with nature, they became increasingly xenophobic and xenophobic, puristic, and encouraged depraved, encouraging their subjects to take hallucinogenic drugs and do '[[BestialityIsDepraved "[[BestialityIsDepraved recreational activities]]' activities]]" with the local wildlife. When Voľná showed signs of precognitive abilities, they exploited their daughter by turning her into a JunkieProphet so they can use her prophecies to lead the other 'wayward' "wayward" Deer Herds back to the Alvslog ways. Voľná's childhood friend, Tiszta, tried snapping her out of her drugged stupor, but thanks to a snitch, she was [[CruelAndUnusualDeath taken deep into the forests and torn apart by animals]], leading to Voľná experiencing an overdose by the time Pokhot found her. Voľná's parents were subsequently killed and damned by in a "Calling the Four Terrors Terrors" sanction for their crimes, but their abuse, combined with the news of Tiszta's death death, sent Voľná deep into the DespairEventHorizon, turning to drug addiction in her attempts to cope with her grief and alienating her adoptive family with her self-destructive behavior. It took [[DontFearTheReaper Moon Ray Vaughoof]]'s intervention for her to snap out of her delusions and accept Tiszta's death, but her road to recovery was still a rather difficult and rocky one. And when Moon Ray adopted Voľná as his daughter, no one complained since he is a ''much'' better parent than her birth parents were.
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* Much like [[Anime/KillLaKill Ragyō Kiryūin]], Silk Dawn was a ''horribly'' abusive mother in all aspects. In addition to Ragyō's canon treatment of her daughters Satsuki Kiryūin and Ryūko_Matoi (who are both depicted here as demigoddesses May Shore and Wandering Child, respectively), Silk Dawn sexually molested many of her other children under the excuse of "purifying" them and indoctrinated them to follow her twisted standards of perfection. She essentially mutilated her firstborn daughter, White Corona, by dividing traits she believed made her "imperfect", leading to the births of twin sisters Yellow Barding and Blue Diadem. Rose Regalia, meanwhile, was groomed by her to be a perfect enforcer of her plans, turning Rose Regalia into a SpoiledBrat until she was shown what true love and affection actually is. She was so monstrous that [[https://www.deviantart.com/comments/1/848558436/4860675373 she saw nothing wrong with how High King Irminsul treated his unborn son]] and praised the Deer sovereign on his ambitions. Predictably, her abusive treatment of her children caused many of them to betray her, ultimately leading to her defeat, death, and postmortem punishment.
* The birth parents of Queen Peínagápia were the previous rulers of a Tauren Giant Pantheon she was once part of, and the ones directly responsible for all the misery she would suffer in her life's early years. When she was born exceptionally beautiful and charismatic, her birth parents feared she would become as evil as Fallen deities like [[SatanicArchetype Morning Star]] if she didn't learn self-restraint, and indoctrinated her to always be selfless, humble, and loving to the point of psychological self-repression. This had ''enormous'' consequences later on, as Peínagápia eventually snapped from the pressure and everyone taking advantage of her love, transforming her into a demonic, love-hungry goddess and inflicting her with guilt over the thought that she became an irredeemable monster. Fortunately, she gains a more loving family in Amareros and the Amaredae, but it's safe to say that all the love she once had for her birth parents had completely evaporated after she realized the implications of their puristic teachings.

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* Much like [[Anime/KillLaKill Ragyō Kiryūin]], Silk Dawn was a ''horribly'' abusive mother in all aspects. In addition to Ragyō's canon treatment of her daughters Satsuki Kiryūin and Ryūko_Matoi Ryūko Matoi (who are both depicted here as demigoddesses May Shore and Wandering Child, respectively), Silk Dawn sexually molested many of her other children under the excuse of "purifying" them and indoctrinated them to follow her twisted standards of perfection. She essentially mutilated her firstborn daughter, White Corona, by dividing traits she believed made her "imperfect", leading to the births of twin sisters Yellow Barding and Blue Diadem. Rose Regalia, meanwhile, was groomed by her to be a perfect enforcer of her plans, turning Rose Regalia into a SpoiledBrat until she was shown what true love and affection actually is. She was so monstrous that [[https://www.deviantart.com/comments/1/848558436/4860675373 she saw nothing wrong with how High King Irminsul treated his unborn son]] and praised the Deer sovereign on his ambitions. Predictably, her abusive treatment of her children caused many of them to betray her, ultimately leading to her defeat, death, and postmortem punishment.
* The birth parents of Queen Peínagápia were the previous rulers of a Tauren Giant Pantheon she was once part of, and the ones directly responsible for all the misery she would suffer suffered in her life's early years. When she was born exceptionally beautiful and charismatic, her birth parents feared she would become as evil as Fallen deities like [[SatanicArchetype Morning Star]] if she didn't learn self-restraint, and indoctrinated her to always be selfless, humble, and loving to the point of psychological self-repression. This had ''enormous'' consequences later on, as Peínagápia eventually snapped from the pressure and everyone taking advantage of her love, transforming her into a demonic, love-hungry goddess and inflicting her with guilt over the thought that she became possibility of becoming an irredeemable monster. Fortunately, she gains a more loving family in Amareros and his children, the Amaredae, but it's safe to say that all the love she once had for has come to hate her birth parents had completely evaporated after once she realized the implications of their puristic teachings.
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* The birth parents of Queen Peínagápia were the previous rulers of a Tauren Giant Pantheon she was once part of, and the ones directly responsible for all the misery she would suffer in her life's early years. When she was born exceptionally beautiful and charismatic, her birth parents feared she would become as evil as Fallen deities like [[SatanicArchetype Morning Star]] if she didn't learn self-restraint, and indoctrinated her to always be selfless, humble, and loving to the point of psychological self-repression. This had ''enormous'' consequences later on, as Peínagápia eventually snapped from the pressure and everyone taking advantage of her love, transforming her into a demonic, love-hungry goddess and inflicting her with guilt over the thought that she became an irredeemable monster. Fortunately, she gains a more loving family in Amareros and the Amaredae, but it's safe to say that all the love she once had for her birth parents had completely evaporated after she realized the implications of their puristic teachings.
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** Princess Voľná Láska's parents were former Erobreseg Deer who rebelled against their herds' ways and became members of the Neo-Alvslog Deer Herds, ruling over the community Voľná was born in. However, in their quest to emulate the Alvslog Deer Herds and reconnect with nature, they became increasingly xenophobic and puristic, and encouraged their subjects to take hallucinogenic drugs and do '[[BestialityIsDepraved recreational activities]]' with the local wildlife. When Voľná showed signs of precognitive abilities, they exploited their daughter by turning her into a JunkieProphet so they can use her prophecies to lead the other 'wayward' Deer Herds back to the Alvslog ways. Voľná's childhood friend, Tiszta, tried snapping her out of her drugged stupor, but thanks to a snitch, she was [[CruelAndUnusualDeath taken deep into the forests and torn apart by animals]], leading to Voľná experiencing an overdose by the time [[HornyDevils Pokhot]] found her. Voľná's parents were subsequently killed and damned by the Four Terrors for their crimes, but their abuse, combined with the news of Tiszta's death sent Voľná deep into the DespairEventHorizon, turning to drug addiction in her attempts to cope with her grief and alienating her adoptive family with her self-destructive behavior. It took [[DontFearTheReaper Moon Ray Vaughoof]]'s intervention for her to snap out of her delusions and accept Tiszta's death, but her road to recovery was still a rather difficult and rocky one. And when Moon Ray adopted Voľná as his daughter, no one complained since he is a ''much'' better parent than her birth parents were.

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** Princess Voľná Láska's parents were former Erobreseg Deer who rebelled against their herds' ways and became members of the Neo-Alvslog Deer Herds, ruling over the community Voľná was born in. However, in their quest to emulate the Alvslog Deer Herds and reconnect with nature, they became increasingly xenophobic and puristic, and encouraged their subjects to take hallucinogenic drugs and do '[[BestialityIsDepraved recreational activities]]' with the local wildlife. When Voľná showed signs of precognitive abilities, they exploited their daughter by turning her into a JunkieProphet so they can use her prophecies to lead the other 'wayward' Deer Herds back to the Alvslog ways. Voľná's childhood friend, Tiszta, tried snapping her out of her drugged stupor, but thanks to a snitch, she was [[CruelAndUnusualDeath taken deep into the forests and torn apart by animals]], leading to Voľná experiencing an overdose by the time [[HornyDevils Pokhot]] Pokhot found her. Voľná's parents were subsequently killed and damned by the Four Terrors for their crimes, but their abuse, combined with the news of Tiszta's death sent Voľná deep into the DespairEventHorizon, turning to drug addiction in her attempts to cope with her grief and alienating her adoptive family with her self-destructive behavior. It took [[DontFearTheReaper Moon Ray Vaughoof]]'s intervention for her to snap out of her delusions and accept Tiszta's death, but her road to recovery was still a rather difficult and rocky one. And when Moon Ray adopted Voľná as his daughter, no one complained since he is a ''much'' better parent than her birth parents were.
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* Much like [[Anime/KillLaKill Ragyō Kiryūin]], Silk Dawn was a ''horribly'' abusive mother in all aspects. In addition to Ragyō's canon treatment of her daughters Satsuki Kiryūin and Ryūko_Matoi (who are both depicted here as demigoddesses May Shore and Wandering Child, respectively), Silk Dawn sexually molested many of her other children under the excuse of "purifying" them and indoctrinated them to follow her twisted standards of perfection. She essentially mutilated her firstborn daughter, White Corona, by dividing traits she believed made her "imperfect", leading to the births of twin sisters Yellow Barding and Blue Diadem. Rose Regalia, meanwhile, was groomed by her to be a perfect enforcer of her plans, turning Rose Regalia into a SpoiledBrat until she was shown what true love and affection actually is. She was so monstrous that [[https://www.deviantart.com/comments/1/848558436/4860675373 she saw nothing wrong with how High King Irminsul treated his unborn son]] and praised the Deer sovereign on his ambitions. Predictably, her abusive treatment of her children caused many of them to betray her, ultimately leading to her defeat, death, and postmortem punishment.
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* The parents of [[MagicalGirlWarrior Shadow Song]], while encouraging of her musical aspirations and talents, were also both [[ThePerfectionist perfectionists]] who had their own ideas on what "proper" music was. They forbade Shadow Song from playing rock music and forced her to play classical music instead, which she was really good at, but left her extremely miserable. When Ivory Towers came to power, Shadow Song's parents pressured her to join Ivory Incorporated, damning her to a lifetime of Faustian slavery (as she formed a pact with one of Ivory Towers' demons, Dākukoin, just to please her parents) and leading to her being "trained" (i.e. abused) by Ivory Towers herself. Understandably, even after breaking free from Ivory Towers and becoming good with help from the Dazzling Divas, Shadow Song was traumatized and suffered nightmares of her experiences. It turns out her parents genuinely didn't know what they pushed their daughter into, and they were ''[[MyGodWhatHaveIDone horrified]]'' when they learned the truth. They have since reconciled, with Shadow Song's parents finally allowing her to pursue her own dreams after repenting for their mistakes.

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* War Rock's parents weren't much better either. After he revealed himself to be a musical prodigy as a colt, his parents, both of them [[ThePerfectionist perfectionists]], encouraged his talents by pushing him hard to succeed in everything while spoiling him rotten to reward his successes. While he did eventually become a musician popular and talented enough to rival [[Music/ElvisPresley Blue Suede Heartstrings]] as the "King of Music", his upbringing not only turned him into a narcissistic sociopath, but also gave him an extreme intolerance for failure that evolved into a MortalityPhobia, turning him into one of the most monstrous supervillains of the Second Age.



* Queen Gossamer, one of the most depraved Griffon [[ANaziByAnyOtherName Autorists]], never showed any sort of maternal love for her daughter, Gossamer II, at all, only grooming her to be a Pony-hating psychopath just like her. Her abuse was so much that when she died, Gossamer II was left psychologically broken. [[spoiler:During her BattleInTheCenterOfTheMind with Monarch Wing, Gossamer reveals she only sees Gossamer II as a "[[TheUnfavourite disappointment]]" and planned to use her daughter as a host body for her own soul after using Monarch Wing's as a temporary host. Fortunately, she is rendered DeaderThanDead by Monarch Wing before it could happen, and after Ascending as a Hippogriff demigoddess, Monarch Wing reincarnates Gossamer II as a baby chick so she can be raised with genuine love the next time around]].

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* Queen Gossamer, one of the most depraved Griffon [[ANaziByAnyOtherName Autorists]], Autorists]] in the Fourth Age, never showed any sort of maternal love for her daughter, Gossamer II, at all, only grooming her to be a Pony-hating psychopath just like her. Her abuse was so much that when she died, Gossamer II was left psychologically broken. Even Monarch Wing, who suffered under Queen Gossamer II's rule, [[SympathyForTheDevil couldn't help but pity her in this regard]]. [[spoiler:During her BattleInTheCenterOfTheMind with Monarch Wing, Gossamer reveals she only sees Gossamer II as a "[[TheUnfavourite disappointment]]" and planned to use her daughter as a host body for her own soul after using Monarch Wing's as a temporary host. Fortunately, she is rendered DeaderThanDead by Monarch Wing before it could happen, and after Ascending happen.]] After Monarch Wing Ascends as a Hippogriff demigoddess, Monarch Wing [[spoiler:she reincarnates Gossamer II as a baby an innocent newborn chick so she can be raised with genuine love the next time around]].
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* The creators of ALICE/Adelais are essentially her parental figures, but they only saw her as a weapon against the New Desides, and decided the best way to utilze her capabilities is to [[AndIMustScream condemn her to an existence of eternal loneliness, able to see the pilot she was programmed to love and protect, but never be interact with or acknowledged by them in any way]]. This was noted to be an extremely cruel thing to do, with many divines and mortals condemning the action as soon as ALICE/Adelais' situation became public knowledge. After ALICE/Adelais died performing a HeroicSacrifice against the Desides (which in the process turned her into a demigoddess), she would be adopted into the Trimortidae by Audens Manes, who realized how badly her creators mistreated her. [[https://www.deviantart.com/comments/1/861846716/4891122072 According to Moon Ray Vaughoof and an Alicorn goddess of Malus Manes' line]], those of ALICE/Adelais' creators who willingly isolated her despite knowing of the cruelty of their actions would be DraggedOffToHell upon death, roasting eternally in their Hell-Realms as punishment for their crimes.

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* The creators of ALICE/Adelais are were essentially her parental figures, but they only saw her as a weapon against the New Desides, and decided the best way to utilze her capabilities is to [[AndIMustScream condemn her to an existence of eternal loneliness, able to see the pilot she was programmed to love and protect, but never be interact with or acknowledged by them in any way]]. This was noted to be an extremely cruel thing to do, with many divines and mortals condemning the action as soon as ALICE/Adelais' situation became public knowledge. After ALICE/Adelais died performing a HeroicSacrifice against the Desides (which in the process turned her into a demigoddess), she would be adopted into the Trimortidae by Audens Manes, who realized how badly her creators mistreated her. [[https://www.deviantart.com/comments/1/861846716/4891122072 According to Moon Ray Vaughoof and an Alicorn goddess of Malus Manes' line]], those of ALICE/Adelais' creators who willingly isolated her despite knowing of the cruelty of their actions would be DraggedOffToHell by Malus (who appropriately appeared as a demonic [[HumongousMecha Gundam]] to them) and his children upon death, roasting eternally in their Hell-Realms as punishment for their crimes.



* Blue Goldstone's stepfather was of the emotional variety at first. While he meant well, he held traditional views on what the ideal stallion should be and strongly disapproved of Gold's 'wimpy' personality and foray into music. When Gold was afflicted with grief over his birth father's death and [[BrokenPedestal disillusionment in Blue Suede Heartstrings]], he showed NoSympathy and [[QuitYourWhining told him to "man up" and move on]], believing that [[MenDontCry stallions shouldn't cry]]. This only contributed to Gold's downward spiral into bitter apathy and depression, which indirectly led to his early death when he snapped out of it to [[HeroicSacrifice save a classmate of his from being sexually harassed by a gang of Greasers]]. It wasn't until after meeting Blue Suede Heartstrings in the Heaven-Realms and reconciling with him many years later that Gold finally gained the courage to [[CallingTheOldManOut call out his stepfather on his emotional abuse]]. After [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone some]] [[JerkassRealization reflection]], Gold's stepfather finally accepted him for who he is and was [[SoProudOfYou very proud]] when Gold Ascended to godhood.

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* Blue Goldstone's stepfather was of the emotional variety at first. While he meant well, he held traditional traditional, toxic views on what the ideal stallion should be of masculinity and strongly disapproved of both Gold's 'wimpy' "wimpy" personality and foray into music. When Gold was afflicted with musical aspirations. His response to Gold's grief over his birth father's death and [[BrokenPedestal disillusionment in towards Blue Suede Heartstrings]], he showed NoSympathy and Heartstrings]] was to [[QuitYourWhining told tell him to "man up" and move on]], believing that [[MenDontCry stallions shouldn't cry]]. on]] because MenDontCry. This only contributed to Gold's downward spiral into bitter apathy and depression, which indirectly led to his early death when he snapped out of it to [[HeroicSacrifice save a classmate of his from being sexually harassed by a gang of Greasers]].death. It wasn't until after meeting Blue Suede Heartstrings in the Heaven-Realms and reconciling with him many years later that Gold finally gained the courage to [[CallingTheOldManOut call out his stepfather on his emotional abuse]]. After a [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone some]] period]] of [[JerkassRealization reflection]], self-reflection]], Gold's stepfather finally accepted him for who he is and was [[SoProudOfYou very proud]] when proud of Gold Ascended for Ascending to godhood.godhood]].
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* Queen Gossamer never showed any sort of maternal love for her daughter, Gossamer II, at all, only grooming her to be a Pony-hating psychopath just like her. Her abuse was so much that when she died, Gossamer II was left psychologically broken. [[spoiler:During her BattleInTheCenterOfTheMind with Monarch Wing, Gossamer reveals she only sees Gossamer II as a "[[TheUnfavourite disappointment]]" and planned to use her daughter as a host body for her own soul after using Monarch Wing's as a temporary host. Fortunately, she is rendered DeaderThanDead by Monarch Wing before it could happen, and after Ascending as a Hippogriff demigoddess, Monarch Wing reincarnates Gossamer II as a baby chick so she can be raised with genuine love the next time around]].

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* Queen Gossamer Gossamer, one of the most depraved Griffon [[ANaziByAnyOtherName Autorists]], never showed any sort of maternal love for her daughter, Gossamer II, at all, only grooming her to be a Pony-hating psychopath just like her. Her abuse was so much that when she died, Gossamer II was left psychologically broken. [[spoiler:During her BattleInTheCenterOfTheMind with Monarch Wing, Gossamer reveals she only sees Gossamer II as a "[[TheUnfavourite disappointment]]" and planned to use her daughter as a host body for her own soul after using Monarch Wing's as a temporary host. Fortunately, she is rendered DeaderThanDead by Monarch Wing before it could happen, and after Ascending as a Hippogriff demigoddess, Monarch Wing reincarnates Gossamer II as a baby chick so she can be raised with genuine love the next time around]].
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* Queen Gossamer never showed any sort of maternal love for her daughter, Gossamer II, at all, only grooming her to be a Pony-hating psychopath just like her. Her abuse was so much that when she died, Gossamer II was left psychologically broken. [[spoiler:During her BattleInTheCenterOfTheMind with Monarch Wing, Gossamer reveals she only sees Gossamer II as a "[[TheUnfavourite disappointment]]" and planned to use her daughter as a host body for her own soul after using Monarch Wing's as a temporary host. Fortunately, she is rendered DeaderThanDead by Monarch Wing before it could happen, and after Ascending as a Hippogriff demigoddess, Monarch Wing reincarnates Gossamer II as a baby chick so she can be raised with genuine love the next time around]].

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