History ASongOfIceAndFire / TropesJToR

1st Jun '16 12:14:50 PM johnnye
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* ParentalIncest:
** Craster's Keep is a nightmare of polygamous WifeHusbandry.
** Aegon IV's mistress Jeyne Lothston is ''rumoured'' to have also been his daughter by another mistress, Falena Stokeworth. To just ''pile on'' the squick, he's said to have [[ThreeWaySex shared a bed with both of them together.]] Oh, and then he gave Jeyne the pox.
17th May '16 10:40:19 AM Andrew
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* NiceToTheWaiter: Ned is always pleasant and polite with his servants and the common folk, even if he remains rather aloof and distant.
17th May '16 10:39:12 AM Andrew
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** Theon Greyjoy' sister and father treat him like absolute shit when he returns to the Iron Islands, mainly because he spent a decade living with the Starks. But as Theon points out, that wasn't his choice- his father gave Theon up as a ward/hostage when he surrendered to Robert Baratheon, so why in the world is ''he'' catching so much flak for it? Theon being Theon, he doesn't help his cause by acting as though he's Balon Greyjoy's heir simply because he's the old man's oldest living son- that's how it works on the mainland, but not on the Iron Islands.

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** Theon Greyjoy' Greyjoy's sister and father treat him like absolute shit when he returns to the Iron Islands, mainly because he spent a decade living with the Starks. But as Theon points out, that wasn't his choice- his father gave Theon up as a ward/hostage when he surrendered to Robert Baratheon, so why in the world is ''he'' catching so much flak for it? Theon being Theon, he doesn't help his cause by acting as though he's Balon Greyjoy's heir simply because he's the old man's oldest living son- that's how it works on the mainland, but not on the Iron Islands.
14th May '16 8:49:05 AM johnnye
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** Littlefinger is a deconstruction of the same concept; he's worked his way up from the very lowest dregs of the nobility to Lord Protector of the Vale by being a ManipulativeBastard and by deliberately instigating upheaval so as to further his own chances of advancement.

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** Littlefinger is a deconstruction of the same concept; he's worked his way up from the very lowest dregs of the nobility to Lord of Harrenhal and Lord Protector of the Vale by being a ManipulativeBastard and by deliberately instigating upheaval so as to further his own chances of advancement. More prosaically, his ancestors worked their way up from a sellsword, to a landed knight, to a petty lord in only three generations.
** Bronn begins the series a sellsword, who becomes a sworn sword of Tyrion Lannister. He is knighted after the Blackwater, then marries into the small but important House Stokeworth. From there, his advancement gets shadier: he kills the ruling Lady's husband after being challenged to a duel, evicts her and names his wife Lady Stokeworth. His wife may also inherit the nearby lands of Rosby, if Bronn presses her claim (and/or gets rid of the other claimants...)
7th May '16 7:15:03 PM ImpudentInfidel
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** It goes beyond technology as well. The same families have ruled mostly the same territories from the same castles for thousands of years. The dynasties that ruled the kingdoms when Aegon arrived had been in place since prehistory, with the notable exception of the Dornish princes.
3rd May '16 10:06:14 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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* MosesInTheBullrushes: [[spoiler:Aegon VI Targaryen.]]

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* MosesInTheBullrushes: MosesInTheBulrushes: [[spoiler:Aegon VI Targaryen.]]
18th Apr '16 9:51:59 AM CaptainCrawdad
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* TheMourningAfter: Tywin's heart is forever hardened after his wife Joanna's death, to such an insane extent that he never smiles [[spoiler:though he does get it on with whores]]. Hoster Tully is also never quite the same. Robert, one of the most epic cases, goes so far as to get hammered and then call Cersei "Lyanna" on their wedding night. And then there's Petyr "Littlefinger" Baelish, whose long [[UnluckyChildhoodFriend fixation]] on Catelyn (not to mention the severe BreakTheCutie process he went through because of it) lead to him turning severely {{Yandere}} and [[ReplacementGoldfish creepy consequences]] regarding Catelyn's daughter, Sansa.

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* TheMourningAfter: Tywin's heart is forever hardened after his wife Joanna's death, to such an insane extent that he never smiles [[spoiler:though he does get it on with whores]]. Hoster Tully is also never quite the same. Robert, one of the most epic cases, goes so far as to get hammered and then call Cersei "Lyanna" on their wedding night. And then there's Petyr "Littlefinger" Baelish, whose long [[UnluckyChildhoodFriend fixation]] on Catelyn (not to mention the severe BreakTheCutie process he went through because of it) lead led to him turning severely {{Yandere}} and [[ReplacementGoldfish creepy consequences]] regarding Catelyn's daughter, Sansa.



** Qyburn calls his towering creation "Ser Robert Strong." House Strong [[ConvenientlyUnverifiableCoverStory was effectively destroyed many years before]] (they ruled Harrenhal) while "Robert" is quite common given the long reign of King Robert Baratheon.

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** Qyburn calls his towering creation "Ser Robert Strong." The first name comes from King Robert Baratheon, his patron's late husband, and the surname refers to the creation's enormous size. The actual House Strong is [[ConvenientlyUnverifiableCoverStory was effectively destroyed many years before]] (they ruled Harrenhal) while "Robert" is quite common given the long reign of King Robert Baratheon.conveniently extinguished]].



* [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone My Gods What Have I Done]]: Ned has this reaction when hearing Bran's life was saved by his direwolf, as he realises the direwolves were sent by the Old Gods to protect his children, only now one's been killed by his own hand and the other driven away. Sure enough the fate of his daughters mirror that of their direwolves; Sansa is at the mercy of the queen, while Arya becomes a fugitive in the Riverlands.

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* [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone My Gods What Have I Done]]: MyGodWhatHaveIDone: Ned has this reaction when hearing Bran's life was saved by his direwolf, as he realises the direwolves were sent by the Old Gods to protect his children, only now one's been killed by his own hand and the other driven away. Sure enough the fate of his daughters mirror that of their direwolves; Sansa is at the mercy of the queen, while Arya becomes a fugitive in the Riverlands.
18th Apr '16 2:10:01 AM alex226
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----* AlternateAppearanceAura:
** Melisandre is able to cast these on people -- they're said to be very difficult magic, and harder to keep up depending on how much they challenge people's {{Weirdness Censor}}s, so wearing the person's IconicItem or IconicOutfit helps the disguise.
** According to the Kindly Man, The Faceless Men are also able to cast them.
** In "The Mystery Knight", it's implied that [[spoiler:Maynard Plumm]] may be Bloodraven casting one of these. Dunk mentions that "the harder he looked at him, the less he saw."

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----* AlternateAppearanceAura:
** Melisandre is able to cast these on people -- they're said to be very difficult magic, and harder to keep up depending on how much they challenge people's {{Weirdness Censor}}s, so wearing the person's IconicItem or IconicOutfit helps the disguise.
** According to the Kindly Man, The Faceless Men are also able to cast them.
** In "The Mystery Knight", it's implied that [[spoiler:Maynard Plumm]] may be Bloodraven casting one of these. Dunk mentions that "the harder he looked at him, the less he saw."
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18th Apr '16 2:07:23 AM alex226
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* LieToTheBeholder:
** Melisandre is able to cast these on people -- they're said to be very difficult magic, and harder to keep up depending on how much they challenge people's {{Weirdness Censor}}s, so wearing the person's IconicItem or IconicOutfit helps the disguise.
** According to the Kindly Man, The Faceless Men are also able to cast them.
** In "The Mystery Knight", it's implied that [[spoiler:Maynard Plumm]] may be Bloodraven casting one of these. Dunk mentions that "the harder he looked at him, the less he saw."



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--------* AlternateAppearanceAura:
** Melisandre is able to cast these on people -- they're said to be very difficult magic, and harder to keep up depending on how much they challenge people's {{Weirdness Censor}}s, so wearing the person's IconicItem or IconicOutfit helps the disguise.
** According to the Kindly Man, The Faceless Men are also able to cast them.
** In "The Mystery Knight", it's implied that [[spoiler:Maynard Plumm]] may be Bloodraven casting one of these. Dunk mentions that "the harder he looked at him, the less he saw."
12th Apr '16 6:48:00 AM Andrew
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* JerkAss: When the Night's Watch has to choose a Lord Commander, Sam admits that Alliser Thorne would normally make an excellent candidate- he's an anointed knight, an experienced man of the Night's Watch and a skilled warrior. And he's also such an unbelievable asshole and bully that the men of the Watch would rather chew gravel than make him their leader.
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