Follow TV Tropes

Following

History AFatherToHisMen / Literature

Go To

OR

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* Creator/SunTzu's ''Literature/TheArtOfWar'' suggests a "Stern Father" approach to leading one's men. One commentator relates a story of a general who personally cared for an ill soldier. When the soldier's mother heard of it, she burst into tears: her husband, who served the same general, never abandoned the man afterward and died in battle as a result--and now her son was going to be the same way. Chapter X also contains the line (from the Lionel Giles translation):

to:

* Creator/SunTzu's ''Literature/TheArtOfWar'' ''Literature/{{The Art of War|SunTzu}}'' suggests a "Stern Father" approach to leading one's men. One commentator relates a story of a general who personally cared for an ill soldier. When the soldier's mother heard of it, she burst into tears: her husband, who served the same general, never abandoned the man afterward and died in battle as a result--and now her son was going to be the same way. Chapter X also contains the line (from the Lionel Giles translation):
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


-->''The commander's grief was absolute. He had loved Sejanus like a son.''

to:

-->''The --->''The commander's grief was absolute. He had loved Sejanus like a son.''

Added: 1140

Changed: 698

Removed: 1446

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* Creator/DanAbnett's TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} series ''Literature/GauntsGhosts'' had Colonel-Commissar Gaunt of the Tanith First-and-Only in this role, but Colm Corbec, Gol Kolea, and to a lesser extent Viktor Hark all exhibit signs of this.
** In ''The Guns Of Tanith'', several people try to persuade Gaunt this it is beneath his dignity to involve himself in the question of whether a Ghost trooper accused of rape and murder is guilty. He counters with the fact that the troopers actually win his battles, and a general is impressed by such views, [[GoodIsOldFashioned which he hasn't heard in some time]].
** Some subordinates also show it. In ''Straight Silver'', Raglon is deeply guilt-stricken when his first mission as a sergeant results in half his troopers dying. When Gaunt's reassurance reveal that Raglon is hiding something, and Gaunt digs for it, Raglon tries to put him off with, "I was in command, sir" before telling Gaunt that Costin had been drunk, and then tries to save Costin from Gaunt.
** In ''His Last Command'', Wilder also fits under this trope, suffering somewhat because good as he is, he is not Gaunt. And Mkoll, seeing a scout whom he met only recently knocked through [[CoolGate a Chaos warp gate]], says NoOneGetsLeftBehind--and jumps through. Despite its being [[EvilIsDeathlyCold cold]] and ''[[AlienGeometries wrong]]'' on the other side, and the other scout's freaking out, he gets him back to safety.



*** In Mitchel Scanlon's ''Descent of Angels'', when Brother Amadis tells Zahariel he had saved his friends, Zahariel tells him he was protecting his squad, and then tries to fight off collapse on the ground he had to get the squad back. Amadis assures him that he will take care of it, as Zahariel's done enough.

to:

*** In Abnett's ''Literature/GauntsGhosts'' series Colonel-Commissar Gaunt of the Tanith First-and-Only isin this role, but Colm Corbec, Gol Kolea, and to a lesser extent Viktor Hark all exhibit signs of this. In ''The Guns Of Tanith'', several people try to persuade Gaunt this it is beneath his dignity to involve himself in the question of whether a Ghost trooper accused of rape and murder is guilty. He counters with the fact that the troopers actually win his battles, and a general is impressed by such views, [[GoodIsOldFashioned which he hasn't heard in some time]].
**** Some subordinates also show it. In ''Straight Silver'', Raglon is deeply guilt-stricken when his first mission as a sergeant results in half his troopers dying. When Gaunt's reassurance reveal that Raglon is hiding something, and Gaunt digs for it, Raglon tries to put him off with, "I was in command, sir" before telling Gaunt that Costin had been drunk, and then tries to save Costin from Gaunt. In ''His Last Command'', Wilder also fits under this trope, suffering somewhat because good as he is, he is not Gaunt. And Mkoll, seeing a scout whom he met only recently knocked through [[CoolGate a Chaos warp gate]], says NoOneGetsLeftBehind--and jumps through. Despite its being [[EvilIsDeathlyCold cold]] and ''[[AlienGeometries wrong]]'' on the other side, and the other scout's freaking out, he gets him back to safety.
**
In Mitchel Scanlon's ''Descent of Angels'', when Brother Amadis tells Zahariel he had saved his friends, Zahariel tells him he was protecting his squad, and then tries to fight off collapse on the ground he had to get the squad back. Amadis assures him that he will take care of it, as Zahariel's done enough.

Added: 248

Changed: 1584

Removed: 217

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* In Creator/SandyMitchell's TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} novels, Literature/CiaphasCain does his best to pose as this (and later, to pound into the heads of cadets that this is elementary self-preservation). Apparently, he's completely successful; both Sulla and Tayber, in the excerpts from their works, effuse about his [[TheMenFirst boundless concern for his subordinates]].)
** However, whether Ciaphas Cain is a true father to his men or not is a matter up to debate, though considering how many times his biographer notes he followed this trope when being coldblooded would be more rational, signs point this being true.

to:

* ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' novels:
**
In Creator/SandyMitchell's TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} novels, Literature/CiaphasCain novels, Cain does his best to pose as this (and later, to pound into the heads of cadets that this is elementary self-preservation). Apparently, he's completely successful; both Sulla and Tayber, in the excerpts from their works, effuse about his [[TheMenFirst boundless concern for his subordinates]].)
** *** However, whether Ciaphas Cain is a true father to his men or not is a matter up to debate, though considering how many times his biographer notes he followed this trope when being coldblooded would be more rational, signs point this being true.



* The trope is mentioned in one of the ''{{Literature/Flashman}}'' novels, which the Cain series is strongly based on. On the eve of the Mutiny, an Indian sepoy says that his old commanders said their soldiers were like children to them (in a good sense), not like the arrogant idiots now in command.
* Creator/DanAbnett's TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} Literature/HorusHeresy novel ''Horus Rising'' opens with the Warmaster sends one of his men, Sejanus, to parlay with a planetary emperor, and Sejanus is murdered.

to:

* The trope is mentioned in one of the ''{{Literature/Flashman}}'' novels, which the Cain series is strongly based on. On the eve of the Mutiny, an Indian sepoy says that his old commanders said their soldiers were like children to them (in a good sense), not like the arrogant idiots now in command.
*
** Creator/DanAbnett's TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} Literature/HorusHeresy novel ''Horus Rising'' opens with the Warmaster sends one of his men, Sejanus, to parlay with a planetary emperor, and Sejanus is murdered.



** In Mitchel Scanlon's ''Descent of Angels'', when Brother Amadis tells Zahariel he had saved his friends, Zahariel tells him he was protecting his squad, and then tries to fight off collapse on the ground he had to get the squad back. Amadis assures him that he will take care of it, as Zahariel's done enough.
* In Creator/GrahamMcNeill's TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} Literature/{{Ultramarines}} novel ''The Killing Ground'', Barbaren remembers with scorn his predecessor as colonel, who thought bringing his men back alive was important.
* In Creator/JamesSwallow's TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} Literature/BloodAngels novel ''Red Fury'', when the Flesh Tearer Noxx gets Kayne into a situation where he [[DuelToTheDeath can challenge him]], Rafen, being Kayne's sergeant, breaks his fingers and says that since Kayne can not face him, he will take his place.
* In Creator/BenCounter's TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} novel ''[[Literature/SoulDrinkers Chapter War]]'', at the climax Sarpedon tells Eumenes that the position of Chapter Master is not a prize for the [[{{Pride}} proud]] but a position of responsibility. Then they DuelToTheDeath.
%%* ''Literature/TheGeneral'': Raj Whitehall tears himself up inside over his losses and turns into a raging PapaBear when his men are slaughtered.

to:

** *** In Mitchel Scanlon's ''Descent of Angels'', when Brother Amadis tells Zahariel he had saved his friends, Zahariel tells him he was protecting his squad, and then tries to fight off collapse on the ground he had to get the squad back. Amadis assures him that he will take care of it, as Zahariel's done enough.
* ** In Creator/GrahamMcNeill's TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} Literature/{{Ultramarines}} novel ''The Killing Ground'', Barbaren remembers with scorn his predecessor as colonel, who thought bringing his men back alive was important.
* ** In Creator/JamesSwallow's TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} Literature/BloodAngels novel ''Red Fury'', when the Flesh Tearer Noxx gets Kayne into a situation where he [[DuelToTheDeath can challenge him]], Rafen, being Kayne's sergeant, breaks his fingers and says that since Kayne can not face him, he will take his place.
* ** In Creator/BenCounter's TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} novel ''[[Literature/SoulDrinkers Chapter War]]'', at the climax Sarpedon tells Eumenes that the position of Chapter Master is not a prize for the [[{{Pride}} proud]] but a position of responsibility. Then they DuelToTheDeath.
* The trope is mentioned in one of the ''{{Literature/Flashman}}'' novels, which the Cain series is strongly based on. On the eve of the Mutiny, an Indian sepoy says that his old commanders said their soldiers were like children to them (in a good sense), not like the arrogant idiots now in command.%%* ''Literature/TheGeneral'': Raj Whitehall tears himself up inside over his losses and turns into a raging PapaBear when his men are slaughtered.

Added: 184

Changed: 70

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* Creator/SunTzu's ''Literature/TheArtOfWar'' suggests a "Stern Father" approach to leading one's men. One commentator relates a story of a general who personally cared for an ill soldier. When the soldier's mother heard of it, she burst into tears: her husband, who served the same general, never abandoned the man afterward and died in battle as a result--and now her son was going to be the same way.

to:

* Creator/SunTzu's ''Literature/TheArtOfWar'' suggests a "Stern Father" approach to leading one's men. One commentator relates a story of a general who personally cared for an ill soldier. When the soldier's mother heard of it, she burst into tears: her husband, who served the same general, never abandoned the man afterward and died in battle as a result--and now her son was going to be the same way. Chapter X also contains the line (from the Lionel Giles translation):
-->''Regard your soldiers as your children, and they will follow you into the deepest battles.\\
Look upon them as your own beloved sons, and they will stand by you, even until death.''
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings'': This is how Pippin views Faramir.
-->"Here was one with an air of high nobility such as Aragorn at times revealed, less high perhaps, yet also less incalculable and remote: one of the Kings of Men born into a later time, but touched with the wisdom and sadness of the Eldar Race. He knew now why Beregond spoke his name with love. He was a captain that men would follow, that he would follow, even under the shadow of the black wings."
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* Taro Fujita and Jinzaburo Kunikida are this to their pupils on ''Literature/ShoShanYLaDamaOscura''.

to:

* Taro Fujita and Jinzaburo Kunikida are this to their pupils on ''Literature/ShoShanYLaDamaOscura''.''Literature/ShoshanYLaDamaOscura''.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* In the ''Literature/MalazanBookOfTheFallen'', Dujek is portrayed as this. Like Adjunct Lorn points out, "''He's not just a man. He's ten thousand men and in a year's time, he will be twenty-five thousand men''". Whiskeyjack as well, to the Bridgeburners.

to:

* In the ''Literature/MalazanBookOfTheFallen'', Dujek Onearm is portrayed as this. Like As Adjunct Lorn points out, "''He's "He's not just a man. He's ten thousand men and in a year's time, he will be twenty-five thousand men''". Whiskeyjack as well, to men". When, after the Bridgeburners.siege of Pale, attempts are made on his life, his soldiers volunteer to guard his back at all times, even against his wish.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* In Creator/AndreNorton's ''[[Literature/{{Warlock}} Forerunner Foray]]'', one guard comes to tell Turan of serving with him as they bring him and Ziantha to safety.

to:

* In Creator/AndreNorton's ''[[Literature/{{Warlock}} Forerunner Foray]]'', ''Literature/ForerunnerForay'', one guard comes to tell Turan of serving with him as they bring him and Ziantha to safety.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

** Arch-Chancellor Ridcully. While he can be a bit abrasive he is genuinely protective of the rest of the university faculty and willing to fight to protect them. Probably best exemplified by this speech, one of the few times he gets truly angry.
-->"[I]f anyone has poisoned our Librarian, then, although I am not, by nature, a vindictive man, I will see to it that this university hunts down the poisoner by every thaumic, mystic and occult means available and makes the rest of their life not only as horrible as they can imagine it, but as horrible as I can imagine it. And you can depend on it, gentlemen, that I have already started work on it."
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* Lampshaded in ''Literature/{{Dune}}'' when Duke Leto Atreides risks his life and the priceless spice to save his men, someone comments that a man such as that would inspire fanatical loyalty. It's implied that this is why the Emperor wants him dead, because he fears Leto will use his popularity to depose him.

to:

* Lampshaded in ''Literature/{{Dune}}'' when Duke Leto Atreides risks his life and the priceless spice to save his men, someone comments that a man such as that would inspire fanatical loyalty. It's implied that this is why the Emperor wants him dead, because he fears Leto will use his popularity to depose him. There is, however, both in- and out-of-universe debate over how much of his attitude is genuine, and how much of it is calculated precisely to evoke loyalty in his subordinates.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* In the {{Warchild Series}} Captain Azarcon is considered like this, practically adopting his crew and encouraging them to pursue education beyond what's needed for the job. He looks after his crew.

to:

* In the {{Warchild Series}} ''Literature/{{Warchild Series}}'' Captain Azarcon is considered like this, practically adopting his crew and encouraging them to pursue education beyond what's needed for the job. He looks after his crew.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Work links should not be potholed into character names.


* From Creator/RobertAHeinlein, there's [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Green_Hills_of_Earth Rhysling's]] infamous song "The Captain is a father to his crew", which should never be sung in mixed company.

to:

* From "Literature/TheGreenHillsOfEarth" by Creator/RobertAHeinlein, there's [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Green_Hills_of_Earth Rhysling's]] Rhysling's infamous song "The Captain is a father to his crew", which should never be sung in mixed company.

Added: 799

Changed: 207

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* ''Not'' the case with HoratioHornblower, who attempts to maintain proper distance and reserve between himself and his crew. They worship him anyway, because he's absolutely fair to them, and utterly brilliant in battle.

to:

* ''Literature/HoratioHornblower''
**
''Not'' the case with HoratioHornblower, the title character, who attempts to maintain proper distance and reserve between himself and his crew. They worship him anyway, because he's absolutely fair to them, and utterly brilliant in battle.battle.
** ''Atropos'' features Collingwood as Hornblower's admiral, who was in RealLife beloved as being kind and fatherly towards his men. After testing Hornblower to satisfy himself of his new captain's skills, Collingwood treats him with gentlemanly courtesy. He clearly hates having to yank Hornblower's ship out from under him so it can be given to a full-grown RoyalBrat to preserve an alliance, does everything he can to soften the blow, and has him fast-tracked to command of a bigger and better ship (the one Hornblower commands [[CallForward in the first written novel]]).

Added: 708

Changed: 102

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* Dalinar Kholin and Kaladin from Literature/TheStormlightArchive. Also, Dalinar is attempting to train his son Adolin to be this.

to:

* ''Literature/TheStormlightArchive'':
**
Dalinar Kholin cares greatly for the safety of his soldiers, and refuses to ask them of anything he'd not be willing to do himself. This is one of the first connections he shares with Kaladin.
--->'''Dalinar:''' Each man who wears my colors is of my family, in a way. The cloak is a simple gift, but it is one of the few things I can offer that has any meaning. Accept it with my gratitude,
Kaladin from Literature/TheStormlightArchive. Also, Dalinar Stormblessed.
** Kaladin
is attempting to train much the same, though on a smaller scale since he's a squadleader instead of a general. He knows the name of every man under his son Adolin command, and still remembers them years after they've died.
--->'''Gaz:''' What are they
to be this.you? Why do you even care?\\
'''Kaladin:''' They're my men.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* The Black Knight from ''Literature/APracticalGuideToEvil'', especially among the orcs. Not only is he a brilliant leader who has won the Dread Empire incredible victories, he also reformed the Legions of Terror to allow much broader recruitment. This meant that the orcs could be actual soldiers with proper gear, training, and opportunity for advancement rather than just hapless CannonFodder.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* In Creator/DavidDrake's ''Northworld'' trilogy, Hansen blames himself for the deaths of '''anyone''' who fought on his side -- because either they died following his orders, in which case he got them killed, or they died '''not''' following his orders, in which case he got them killed by not being able to make them see that what he ordered was the right thing to do.

to:

* In Creator/DavidDrake's ''Northworld'' ''Literature/{{Northworld}}'' trilogy, Hansen blames himself for the deaths of '''anyone''' ''anyone'' who fought on his side -- because either they died following his orders, in which case he got them killed, or they died '''not''' ''not'' following his orders, in which case he got them killed by not being able to make them see that what he ordered was the right thing to do.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


%%* [[TheGeneral Raj Whitehall]] fits this trope to a tee. He tears himself up inside over his losses and turns into a raging PapaBear when his men are slaughtered.

to:

%%* [[TheGeneral ''Literature/TheGeneral'': Raj Whitehall]] fits this trope to a tee. He Whitehall tears himself up inside over his losses and turns into a raging PapaBear when his men are slaughtered.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Fan Myopia. Always show the work's name.


* [[AubreyMaturin Jack Aubrey]] is all over this trope.

to:

* [[AubreyMaturin %%* ''Literature/AubreyMaturin'': Jack Aubrey]] Aubrey is all over this trope.

Added: 858

Changed: 94

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* In the ''Literature/{{Rihannsu}}'' novels Ael t'Rllaillieu often refers to her crew as her children. She also notes that many Romulan [=COs=] ''aren't'' this trope, hewing more towards the BadBoss type by ruling through fear.

to:

* In the ''Literature/{{Rihannsu}}'' novels Ael t'Rllaillieu often refers to her crew as her children. She also notes that many Romulan [=COs=] ''aren't'' this trope, hewing more towards the BadBoss type by ruling through fear. Though even Ael notes that a well-placed tantrum and tirade can be a useful tool on occasion.


Added DiffLines:

* In ''Literature/AlexisCarew'', the title character learned to handle men first from being raised by her grandfather and his foremen and ranch hands, then getting her initial dose of New London Royal Navy training from Captain Grantham, an example of this himself. In contrast with some captains who rely on threats or force to control the men ("Tartars"), Alexis tends to win the UndyingLoyalty of the crew under her by directing with a kind word and a smile and by joining in with their work. The horribly sexist Captain Neals in ''Mutineer'' wrongly infers from this that she's trading sexual favors for their loyalty. [[spoiler:His busting her down to ordinary spacer and having her flogged for refusing to [[KneelBeforeZod kneel to anyone but the queen]] is ultimately what triggers the mutiny that's been building for most of the book to that point.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* Aral Vorkosigan in the ''Literature/VorkosiganSaga'' by LoisMcMasterBujold, specifically how he treats his men during the two pre-Miles books, ''Literature/ShardsOfHonor'' and ''Literature/{{Barrayar}}''. He's explicity said to love Koudelka "like a son", bending the rules to keep him on as a secretary when he would have been medically discharged. If one applies this metaphor to Bothari... a little Oedipal complex? That's sorta scary how well it fits, especially his incident during the Escobaran war...

to:

* Aral Vorkosigan in the ''Literature/VorkosiganSaga'' by LoisMcMasterBujold, Creator/LoisMcMasterBujold, specifically how he treats his men during the two pre-Miles books, ''Literature/ShardsOfHonor'' and ''Literature/{{Barrayar}}''. He's explicity said to love Koudelka "like a son", bending the rules to keep him on as a secretary when he would have been medically discharged. If one applies this metaphor to Bothari... a little Oedipal complex? That's sorta scary how well it fits, especially his incident during the Escobaran war...
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* Aral [[Literature/VorkosiganSaga Vorkosigan]], specifically how he treats his men during the two pre-Miles books, ''Shards of Honor'' and ''Barrayar'', by LoisMcMasterBujold. He's explicity said to love Koudelka "like a son", bending the rules to keep him on as a secretary when he would have been medically discharged. If one applies this metaphor to Bothari... a little Oedipal complex? That's sorta scary how well it fits, especially his incident during the Escobaran war...

to:

* Aral [[Literature/VorkosiganSaga Vorkosigan]], Vorkosigan in the ''Literature/VorkosiganSaga'' by LoisMcMasterBujold, specifically how he treats his men during the two pre-Miles books, ''Shards of Honor'' ''Literature/ShardsOfHonor'' and ''Barrayar'', by LoisMcMasterBujold.''Literature/{{Barrayar}}''. He's explicity said to love Koudelka "like a son", bending the rules to keep him on as a secretary when he would have been medically discharged. If one applies this metaphor to Bothari... a little Oedipal complex? That's sorta scary how well it fits, especially his incident during the Escobaran war...

Changed: 121

Removed: 52

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


----



** Bujold loves this trope: she also used it in ''[[Literature/{{Chalion}} Paladin of Souls]]'' - Lord Arhys is just such a man, and it is outright stated that his patron god (the Father, natch, one of the [[CrystalDragonJesus five gods]]) feels the same way about him. So much so, in fact, that his soul is taken up by the Father despite never having fathered a child.
** He did have a daughter by his first marriage.

to:

** * Bujold loves this trope: she also used it in ''[[Literature/{{Chalion}} Paladin of Souls]]'' ''Literature/PaladinOfSouls'' - Lord Arhys is just such a man, and it is outright stated that his patron god (the Father, natch, one of the [[CrystalDragonJesus five gods]]) feels the same way about him. So much so, in fact, that his soul is taken up by the Father despite never having fathered a child.
** He did have a daughter by his first marriage.
him.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* SunTzu's ''Literature/TheArtOfWar'' suggests a "Stern Father" approach to leading one's men. One commentator relates a story of a general who personally cared for an ill soldier. When the soldier's mother heard of it, she burst into tears: her husband, who served the same general, never abandoned the man afterward and died in battle as a result--and now her son was going to be the same way.

to:

* SunTzu's Creator/SunTzu's ''Literature/TheArtOfWar'' suggests a "Stern Father" approach to leading one's men. One commentator relates a story of a general who personally cared for an ill soldier. When the soldier's mother heard of it, she burst into tears: her husband, who served the same general, never abandoned the man afterward and died in battle as a result--and now her son was going to be the same way.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* In AndreNorton's ''Literature/IceCrown'', one of Imfray's men, after the rescue, recounts the time Imfray saved him from a rock fall.
* In AndreNorton's ''[[Literature/{{Warlock}} Forerunner Foray]]'', one guard comes to tell Turan of serving with him as they bring him and Ziantha to safety.

to:

* In AndreNorton's Creator/AndreNorton's ''Literature/IceCrown'', one of Imfray's men, after the rescue, recounts the time Imfray saved him from a rock fall.
* In AndreNorton's Creator/AndreNorton's ''[[Literature/{{Warlock}} Forerunner Foray]]'', one guard comes to tell Turan of serving with him as they bring him and Ziantha to safety.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* An almost inadvertant example of this trope is Metellus Pius (aka 'the Piglet') of Colleen [=McCullough=]'s ''MastersOfRome'' series. He fusses and clucks over his troops more like a mother than a father to make sure they are in fighting trim when the time for action comes. At first his motives are purely practical but the glow of his men's gratitude and affection gradually changes that. In the end he cares for 'his boys' as they care for him.

to:

* An almost inadvertant example of this trope is Metellus Pius (aka 'the Piglet') of Colleen [=McCullough=]'s ''MastersOfRome'' ''Literature/MastersOfRome'' series. He fusses and clucks over his troops more like a mother than a father to make sure they are in fighting trim when the time for action comes. At first his motives are purely practical but the glow of his men's gratitude and affection gradually changes that. In the end he cares for 'his boys' as they care for him.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* Subverted in ''TheForeverWar'' by Joe Haldeman. The protagonist tries to fulfil this trope when he becomes a major but fails, partly because he's not suited to the role but mainly due to TimeDilation he's a relic from the past who doesn't understand the language and culture of contemporary humans.

to:

* Subverted in ''TheForeverWar'' ''Literature/TheForeverWar'' by Joe Haldeman. The protagonist tries to fulfil this trope when he becomes a major but fails, partly because he's not suited to the role but mainly due to TimeDilation he's a relic from the past who doesn't understand the language and culture of contemporary humans.



* In DavidDrake's ''Northworld'' trilogy, Hansen blames himself for the deaths of '''anyone''' who fought on his side -- because either they died following his orders, in which case he got them killed, or they died '''not''' following his orders, in which case he got them killed by not being able to make them see that what he ordered was the right thing to do.

to:

* In DavidDrake's Creator/DavidDrake's ''Northworld'' trilogy, Hansen blames himself for the deaths of '''anyone''' who fought on his side -- because either they died following his orders, in which case he got them killed, or they died '''not''' following his orders, in which case he got them killed by not being able to make them see that what he ordered was the right thing to do.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
linking the listing for Lit/Human to the Lit/Human page


* In ''Human'' Aleksander Svetoslav is an [[OurVampiresAreDifferent Opyri]] Prince who embodies this trope to both the other Opyri of his House, and also the humans of the mundane assets his House inherits after House Ustrel is wiped out by [[VampireHunter hunters]].

to:

* In ''Human'' ''Literature/{{Human}}'' Aleksander Svetoslav is an [[OurVampiresAreDifferent Opyri]] Prince who embodies this trope to both the other Opyri of his House, and also the humans of the mundane assets his House inherits after House Ustrel is wiped out by [[VampireHunter hunters]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Added namespaces.


* SunTzu's ''TheArtOfWar'' suggests a "Stern Father" approach to leading one's men. One commentator relates a story of a general who personally cared for an ill soldier. When the soldier's mother heard of it, she burst into tears: her husband, who served the same general, never abandoned the man afterward and died in battle as a result--and now her son was going to be the same way.
* Sima Yi from ''RomanceOfTheThreeKingdoms'' has shades of this.

to:

* SunTzu's ''TheArtOfWar'' ''Literature/TheArtOfWar'' suggests a "Stern Father" approach to leading one's men. One commentator relates a story of a general who personally cared for an ill soldier. When the soldier's mother heard of it, she burst into tears: her husband, who served the same general, never abandoned the man afterward and died in battle as a result--and now her son was going to be the same way.
* Sima Yi from ''RomanceOfTheThreeKingdoms'' ''Literature/RomanceOfTheThreeKingdoms'' has shades of this.



* Lord Suffolk in ''TheEnglishPatient'' is like this, especially for Kip, who considers the English sapper unit to be his real family. This is a definining feature in his [[HeroicBSOD backstory]].

to:

* Lord Suffolk in ''TheEnglishPatient'' ''Literature/TheEnglishPatient'' is like this, especially for Kip, who considers the English sapper unit to be his real family. This is a definining feature in his [[HeroicBSOD backstory]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* Taro Fujita and Jinzaburo Kunikida are this to their pupils on ''Literature/ShoShanYLaDamaOscura''.

Top