: I don't think "number of applicable rows" is always 6 (or 7). For example, if someone doesn't fit any of the listed characterizations or causes of death, wouldn't you exclude those rows instead of dividing by 6 anyway?
: I dunno about that, but you're no fun. I thought my addendum to the Jet entry was pretty amusing, but I guess one man's Made of Win
is another man's DO NOT WANT. Whatever.
: Lale stop making arbitrary cuts. That's two. The pulled text ...
... for discussion
: What's the difference between an arbitrary cut and a cut?
: Pulling it out to the discussion page, rather than just zapping it.
: I'm not in Sirius Denial
. The Word of God
said that Jet's dead, that's all I need, but I'm just surprised that they cheapened his death so much by leaving it open for speculation (and for crappy fanfics). I still maintain he should be below a three, because, you know, we got to see Zhao
die. Also, this whole Tony Almeida thing has got me really pissed off >_<
: So, what does it take for someone to get a 0? I'm looking at you, Optimus Prime.
: A zero? Well, there'd have to be a whole "zeroth column" made, or maybe a "go into negative numbers column" with things like Contractual Immortality
, coming back from the dead repeatedly as a series premise, probably give them true immortality while keeping the character at Mary Sue
level of Character Shields
. Or, y'know, just liberally use the First Law of Resurrection
not only possible but can be commonplace... but I get the feeling these characters are probably cheesier than Munchkins
unless done straight. Anyhoo, they're more the algorithm's exception than the rule.
: I pulled this from the main page, because, either somebody doesn't know how to read a chart, or the chart has changed since it was posted.
I revised the scores based on the information given on the original page, and I get 2.86, which makes his score fit what happened, as he came back next season both in Torchwood and Doctor Who.
: Actually he came back within 5 minutes ("I bring Life") and has been immortal (of the Infinite Resurrection/Highlander variety) ever since.
: Yeah, so it doesn't quite fit. I keep forgetting that Doctor Who
doesn't use the Season Cliffhanger
, so I got mixed up on exactly when Jack came back.
Anyways, I originally thought that stranding Jack there effectively Put Him On A Bus
, the same thing happens to Rose in Season 2. (I didn't watch them in order) In my Epilectic Tree
theory, erasing the Daleks from existence would have effectively created a separate universe. Too bad I forgot about that personal time machine...
: That part needs a major rewrite.
: Yeah, don't trope at 3:00 AM. Got it. Tried to fix it, but, really, it doesn't make that much sense, anyways.
: Pulled the below because it didn't fit the format of the other examples.
Well, by my calculations she's only either a 2.67 or a 2.83 on the sorting algorithm of deadness, which is between back next episode and back next season, so there's a reasonable chance she'll be back. However, there are enough 4s in there that I wouldn't put much weight on the average.
(The values I used were Cause of Death: Sacrifice- 3, Genre: Killed off for real -3, Body Found: Deader than Dead- 4, Reaction: Montage -4, Characterisation: Protagonist -1, When did they die I couldn't decide weather it was Same Arc- 1 or Same Year -2. With Same Arc she's a 2.67, with Same Year she's a 2.83.)
Not touching the Song of Ice and Fire example, though, on the off-chance I might actually care about those
spoilers at some later point.
: I'll stick it back in properly.
here, trying to figure up the level of probably deadness for Sergeant Johnson from the Halo
games. I got an even 3, but I really doubt he'll be back, ever (unfortunately). Somebody wanna recalculate/double-check this one?
: I don't get the last one added ("Ok, so- the big question"). Who is it about, and how does it break the algorithm? (later) Pulling it.
OK, so - the big question:
- Cause of death: Drug overdose on a toilet seat. 4.
- Genre: Everyone Can Die, so far. 4.
- Body Found?: Yep - and then plastered on the National Enquirer. 4.
- Reaction: I think the media circus counts as a montage. 4.
- Characterization: Uh huh huh. 1!
- When did they die?: 30+ years ago. 4.
- Died and come back? One comeback special in '68. 3.
: 3.43. I guess no algorithm is perfect.
: I thought it was fairly obvious: Elvis Presley.
: After reading the death of Therkla
in The Order of the Stick
, I have to ask: Where does Final Speech
or Famous Last Words
go? Cause, Genre, Reaction, Body, or do we need a new category for the depiction of the death itself? (I intend to add it to the algorithm after the next strip comes out and we have something for Reaction - she scores rather highly)
: Well, I'd argue it should get it's own category similar to Reaction. Maybe "Last Words"? I'm not sure what order, but it could include Oh Crap
, Bond One-Liner
, Famous Last Words
and Final Speech
: That could work. A category about the character's reaction to their impending death. The most fatal would probably be where they don't get a chance to respond, or are Killed Mid-Sentence
: It's been a while, but I went ahead and added the new row. Feel free to edit as appropriate (don't forget the copy in the main name space!)
: Just read Shirley
's algorithm, and seeing Code Geass
referred to as Anyone Can Die
is one hell of a Reverse Funny Aneurysm
. Also, on the "Ultimatum
" one I did, I really wanted to make the reaction a 5, because not only is there an upcoming montage, but the entire next issue of Ultimate Spider-Man was a No Dialogue Episode, and it was the last issue before the title relaunch.
So, yeah. Maybe I'll make that a five, because that's quite weightful. Even though I doubt they'll keep that character dead.