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Scrounge: Does "You wouldn't hit a man with glasses, would you?" fall under this trope, or should it have its own page?
Looney Toons: Its own page. Definitely.
Scrounge: That's what I was thinking, but I'm not sure it's really that different in principle.... So, I'd like to get some discussion on the trope that says hitting me isn't nice, and if it's the same reason hitting my sister isn't.
Ununnilium: It's related, but definitely needs its own page.
Citizen: I'm not sure that last spoiler'ed example for the Wheel of Time works. I could have sworn he just said something like "You picked bad company". If I remember, I'll look it up, but it didn't strike me as a very impacting moment to him.
Hi: I think I saw Luna Lovegood get smacked in the face in the Oot P movie. That would be a double-whammy, almost, hitting a child and a girl. If someone can confirm it, I'm adding it.
To do: look up attribution of quote "You're gonna to learn to hit girls sometime, Scott!" from a Scott Pilgrim comic (I think the FCBD 2006 issue). The closing narration is a good candidate also. —Document N
Andrew: Is this page reserved exclusively for situations where the "will you hit a woman?" is explicitly addressed in the work? I'm thinking about Sky High, where, in the climactic battle, Will has no problems throwing Gwen/"Royal Pain" around the cafeteria and beating the hell out of her. The reason I find it interesting is that he does all of this while she's in her armored battle suit and her face is fully covered.
Silent Hunter: On a related topic, do you ever get "dominators" in TV depictions of BDSM?
Andrusi: Subversion I've long wanted to see:
- F: You can't hit a lady!POW!M: Huh. I guess this means you're not a lady.
Charred Knight: Deleted
- Subverted in the Spider-Man comics, when Venom showed absolutely no qualms about slamming the Black Cat face-first into a brick wall. Ouch.
- Subverted in somewhat creepy fashion in a recent issue of TheAvengers, where a third-tier villain named the Hood, who is mostly a normal human, somehow manages to pistol-whip and beat down Tigra, a female superheroine who can take a bullet without slowing and would stand a good chance against someone like Sabretooth. What makes it creepy, and not just a Wall Banger of stupidity from a vindictive writer who has gone on record as saying he dislikes the character, is when the Hood punches her...and her shirt pops open. Oh, and the Hood's sidekick videotaping the whole thing for display later at the Bad Guys Club Of Badness.
Both are Supervillans and no one would expect either to have a Wouldn't Hit a Girl, a comicbook example would be if a female villan asked if the superhero would hit a girl, and the superhero responds by belting her.
That Other 1 Dude: I deleted anything that was a straight up aversion.
Austin: Does that "Loserz" example count? I don't know those characters, but if the hitter is portrayed as a scumbug as opposed to a good person, it doesn't really count.
Ross N: Actually I was wondering about that too. It almost seems like there are two different tropes here: 'Girls Don't Get Hit, Period' and 'Good Guys Don't Hit Girls'. Now if it is the former there are probably a heck of a lot more aversions we can add, but the description seems to imply it is more the latter.
My Google skillz failed me miserably, so I'll just ask here - what exactly is A World Gone Mad?
Socks: How is Mind Rape a contrast to this?
it is a Double Standard
Historian of Wrestling: Chyna might have claimed years later that Stone Cold was the first one to hit her (I never saw the shoot interview) but both my memories and the 1997 WWF archives
would beg to differ. Within a month of entering she the she not only beat up Bret Hart but also got into physical altercations with Bart Gun and Flash Funk, because like JR said back then "she might be a woman but that's no lady". The only time I remember them ever using the Wouldn't shtick with her was during DX comedy bits which happened several month later. (by the way you were right when you said Hart didn't fight back, but that was not because of any chivalry on the ex-champions part it was because a bunch of (male) refs officials and security guards had restrained and arrested her before she could bet the downed superstar further. This was because in Kayfabe she was not officially part of the WWF yet)
HeartBurn Kid: Your link doesn't mention anybody actually hitting her, you realize. That's because they didn't, and most didn't even try (those rare faces who lost their cool and actually made the attempt were usually restrained by refs). Which was my entire point; Chyna took advantage of this trope to interfere on HHH's behalf with impunity.
Historian of Wrestling: While you might be right she was never punched I distinctly remember her getting closelined slammed and kicked in her early days,Chyna was extremely tough looking and muscular and the only reason why a woman like that would not be used to fight is if she turned out to be a freak from the Howard Stern Show that Vince got cheaply from ecw cough Nicole Bass cough. However Chyna was fighting guys since day 1 with the company and she was treated as one of the guys until the Mark Henry angle.
HeartBurn Kid: I'm pretty sure your memory's off there. Can you dig up any video of her getting hit or slammed before the Steve Austin feud?
Historian of Wrestling: Sorry I was not able to find to find any videos currently up of her from that time period where she was not beating up with Marlena but several men do have to come out and physically restrain her if that counts. I know she was hit several times before Austin for instance I used to have a match on tape from a 97 KOTR qualifying match between Hunter-Hearst-Helmsley and Crush where she was kicked in the face by Savio Vega (of course he would later hit crush with the same move allowing HHH to win the Heel vs. Heel match). Were you watching the wwf in 97 because when she came in they made sure to show that she could take bumps and was not just some china doll. JR. would always talk about how she had to wrestle in either brag or drag (it can be kind of hard to understand him at times) in training camp just to find a formidable opponent.
HeartBurn Kid: Dude, I've been watching wrestling since WM 4, don't give me this "were you watching" crap. And, right now, you're asking me to go against not only my own memories, but also what the actual person in question said. Give me something here (and no, restraining doesn't count). A Youtube link, something.
Historian of Wrestling:I do not know you or your history and a lot of people have begun watching wrestling in the past 12 years or you could have been a wcw fan in 1997. There seems to be a lack of Hunter Hearst Helmsley matches from that time period and most that I saw had the announcers playing up how tough Chyna was. I will continue looking but can you show me a match where they did the wouldn’t hit a girl bit with her.
HeartBurn Kid: Watch the RF Video shoot, like I already said. She flat out says it. Look, just tell me one event, one match I can look up, where somebody actually hits Chyna before Steve Austin does. One.
