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DomaDoma: If defeating Kefka doesn't restore balance to the world, then what were all those shots of Baren Falls and the seedling and whatnot?

Zephid: The world ceasing dying. At least that's the impression I got from it.

Gus: Kimiko, that was pretty arbitrary. The song quote worked, for me. Song quote, for posterity:
It's the end of the world as we know it, It's the end of the world as we know it, It's the end of the world as we know it, And I feel fine. — REM, "It's The End Of The World As We Know It"

Kendra Kirai: It's a travesty that a trope with this name doesn't have the song quote. I'm putting it back in. If it goes this time, I won't edit-volley it back, but I hope it stays.

Seth: Removed the avatar example because it really doesn't fit, the fall of one city is not the end of the world as we know it. The same Anon contributor keeps adding avatar stuff everywhere - i get that you like the series i watch it and like it too but stop trying to fit it in everywhere it does not use every trope in the catalogue.

Nah it does. Lemme break it down. The bad guys are on the verge of global conquest and basically the capitol city was the last stronghold of the only nation able to oppose them. Basically by felling the capitol, they fell the nation and its The End of the World as We Know It. And in terms of the show itself, yeah uh if happens to display a trope and there happens to be a section designated for it here, well there ya go. If it fits, it fits. I honestly fail to see how liking or disliking a show has anything to do with it. All in all, I mean its not like its hurtin anybody and thats ya'know the whole of this place.

Kendra Kirai: Technically, The End of the World as We Know It happens if Aang can't stop the Fire Lord and the comet, not if the Earth Kingdom capitol falls. It's bad, yes, but it's not really catastrophic.

Seth: If anything Avatar would be a series set After the End since the world as he knew it ended almost 100 years ago. And to recap what i said because you ignored it, i have seen the show, every episode, in order, from 1-40 based on how often you add examples of it and while good it does not fit everything you are putting it in. You are reaching man, it doesn't belong here. The villain may be threatening The End of the World as We Know It because if he gets to use the comet the elements would be forever unbalanced but the s2 finale is not one. Loosing a battle and loosing a war are very different, the north pole is still untouched and there are villages of resistance not to mention the AVATAR IS STILL ALIVE. If he died or failed to defeat ozai it would fit the trope.

Cassius335: Bear in mind, though: The people of Bah-Sing-Se REALLY didn't get out much, so their general perception of the world was rather smaller (and completely wrong). They went from (False) Perfect Utopia to "Occupied by Fire Nation.". The world as THEY knew it? Kinda ended. Not on the same scale as the world actually ending, true, but still...

Yoshi348: Removed the link, cause as stated it's squarely about Earth-Shattering Kaboom and not for "wusses" who simply want to cause the end as we know it. It's linked to in ESK anyway.

Filby: Took out the Star Wars example, since it pertains not to the physical destruction of the world but instead only (heh, "only") to the breakdown of society. In that case we might as well include Weimar Germany.

Incompleteness I think both should qualify, since sometimes after The End of the World as We Know It comes After the End. While a breakdown of society may not be the end of the world, it's certainly the end of the world as it's inhabitants knew it. I think physical destruction falls more under Earth-Shattering Kaboom but maybe this trope and that one overlap.
Looney Toons: Removed

  • This trope is not named after the REM song, because nobody knows whether it's actually the end of the world or not.

because I created and named this entry lo these many years ago, and I sure as hell did name it after the REM song. Not to mention that as an "example" this is so unexamplelike that it subtracts meaning from the real examples.
BritBllt: Took the liberty of switching the song quote a bit, from the chorus...

Itís the end of the world as we know it.
Itís the end of the world as we know it.
Itís the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine.
— R.E.M.

to the opening lines...

That's great, it starts with an earthquake.
Birds and snakes, an aeroplane,
and Lenny Bruce is not afraid.
— R.E.M., "It's the End of the World as We Know It (And I Feel Fine)"

The one-line chorus is a little redundant, especially with the name of the song added and since it's also the name of the trope. The Trope Namer itself should definitely be quoted somehow, though, and the opening lines are relevant enough to work (and just plain What Do You Mean, It Wasn't Made on Drugs? funny :)).