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Boobah: How does Training from Hell fit? I see the discussion from YKTTW, but the weights thing is situational. Training in the 10 ton weights is Training from Hell, but when you wear the weights into battle and power up by removing them, that is I Am Not Left-Handed, right? They're related, but not the same thing.
Earnest: You have a point, it's probably better to make a "Compare/Contrast" line at the end that mentions it rather than list it as a regularly recurring element of the trope.
This Trope may well be an early non anime example of Calling Your Attacks.
Though this is not a Subverted Trope there has been a recent trend in Comics to go to the opposite extreme and present Antihero's who go all out or use lethal force rather than escalate, with all the resulting collateral damage that entails.
- The Doctor does this rather egregriously in The Christmas Invasion, when he reveals that he can grow a hand back when he loses it.
These don't seem to relate in any way to the trope, so pulled 'em out.
Devil's Advocate: "The same movie that gives the name and quote for this trope also provides a subversion of sorts, since the Man In Black is also Not Left-Handed." But the Man in Black is the hero, and at the time of their duel, Inigo is working against him. So isn't the Man in Black revealing that he's also not left-handed a straight version of the trope, rather than a subversion?
Earnest: So you're saying that Inigo subverts it because he's the villain, but the Man in Black plays it straight because he's the hero? Well, I Am Not Left-Handed doesn't really discriminate between hero's and villains, subversions would be that both characters are not left handed, an aversion that both are sincerely fighting at full power from the get go (Nitpicking: at that point in the movie they're both techincally villains, so it's kind of moot...).
Mink: Changed the Í in the page quote to "I" for Inigo. Even if that's proper Spanish, Goldman himself writes the name "Inigo".
Someone should include the real life (semi) situation in which the two best American Street Fighter players were in the very finals of a tournament, and one pulls a completely unknown technique that he secretly developed and never used. It turned out to be the most lethal or dangerous technique/combo/whatever in the game. Research it. I forgot where I read it. (The unrelated continuation of the story; the other player learned to counter the completely unknown technique, and even managed to learn it during the final fight. He still lost though. Damn.)
- This is because the entire exchange is a reference to the Errol Flynn classic The Adventures of Robin Hood, where the same exchange is played out between Robin and Nottingham, except that the exchange is "Best left-handed swordsman in all of Nottingham"/I am not from Nottingham", making the entire Princess Bride version a subversion.
Tannhaeuser: I don't know where this quote occurs, but it isn't The Adventures Of Robin Hood. (The closest in that film is "That friar is the most dangerous swordsman in...") Can anyone identify it? It's really a great quote, if only we can track down the actual source.
