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Working Title: First Name Gender: From YKTTW
Ununnilium: Changed it so that it doesn't say being named Andrea is "bad".
Also, taking out:
- Lachesis is also a Greek goddess, and yet a story exists with a male Lachesis.
...until we get more details.
BT The P: I was privileged enough to be present for Bruce Campbell telling some stories at a screening of Bubba Ho-Tep the year it came out (at Michigan State, when i was still there), and he told a story about an incident at a book signing for "If Chins Could Kill". A surly young man around 19 approached the esteemed D-lister, almost chucked the book at him, and when asked who he should make it out to, replied "Ashley". Bruce was of course skeptical, as people say they're named Ash to him a lot, but the boy said "my parents named me after your stupid movie!"
Scrounge: Regarding the name "Yuri", isn't the Russian version used for males "Uri"?
Medinoc: I've always seen it written as "Yuri" (or even "Youri" in French)...
Citizen: For what it's worth, there was a boy in Shakugan No Shana II named Yuri...
BlackMeph: To Scrounge - nope, Russian has a letter for "Oo" and for "Yoo" and Yuri uses the latter - "Юри". Uri is Hebrew, though, so there are likely a few Russian Jews with that name.
Semi-Known Troper: I've always heard Daniel and Danielle pronounced differantly. Dan-yell and Dan-e-ell?
Medinoc: Well, I don't see any difference except speed... In French, we sometimes pronounce the mute 'e' to point out it's the female variant, but it's not "natural"...
Anduin: Daniel is DANyel, Danielle is danYELL. At least where I'm from... if you called someone the variant I'm thinking you'd get punched!
Kilyle: Yeah, I was gonna say - it's all a matter of stress. Better choose a better example for "names that need to be written down." And yeah, call people the wrong one, bad business. Kinda like my favorite moment in French class in college, when the teacher began to assign us French versions of our names during the first role call. And by "assign" I mean "call out our names in French." So of course she comes to "Michelle? Michelle Smith?" And everyone's looking around... no Michelles. So she clarifies that it's the French version of Michael. I'm sure I'm inflating the story a bit, but I swear there were five Michaels in the class on Day One, and not a single Michael left on Day Two....
BobbyG: Incidentally, it's not true to say that Ashley is a girls' name nowadays. I know plenty of people named Ashley and none of them is a girl; heck, it's one of the most common boys' names in this area.
Citizen: Go figure. My immediate impression when I saw "Ashley" on this page was that it was a girls' name. I don't know any male Ashley's myself; maybe that's an English thing. Well, anyway, it's already listed under "time-dependent"...
((Black Meph)): Yep, definitely t-d. In fact, I doubt anyone would've noticed if I hadn't added "Beverly" to the list. Heh, I just looked up meaning: "Beverly, from a surname which was originally derived from a place name meaning "beaver stream" in Old English." Maybe it is a female name, If You Know What I Mean...
arromdee: The Wild Wild West character is Artemus Gordon, not Artemis.
Azreal: Aaron and Erin are also pronounced different from each other, at least all the times I've heard it. Aaron with a long a, Erin with a short e. Though about 10 years ago, I did meet a very feminine looking Aaron, who pronounced his name like Erin...embarrasing moment, to be sure.
Gambrinus: I would pronounce Erin and Aaron identically. It may depend on accent. Incidentally, I do know a male Erin (and people usually write his name Aaron if they don't know better).
rutheni: I'm pretty sure I pronounce Aaron and Erin the same, Daniel and Danielle slightly differently, and Gabriel and Gabrielle... markedly differently. (I always thought that Gabriel and Gabrielle, who occasionally were in the same class as I was in high school, and had similar last names, would have gotten more differentiation from the teachers, but apparently not.) And have known two girls and no boys named Ashley, for what it's worth.
Lua: Half of the "homophone" names sound totally different to me (Gabriel and Gabrielle, Vivian and Vivienne, and Peter and Peta spring to mind). I'm pretty sure it kind of depends on the reader's accent too.
Sukeban: Just to avoid confusions, "ichigo-strawberry" is written 苺, and "ichigo-as-in-kurosaki" 一護. He still gets called "the deathberry" in the title for volume 18 of the manga.
Servbot: Removed the second Makoto listed under Japanese gender-neutral names.
It says "Doris may once have been a male name", but Doris is the name of a female sea nymph in Greek mythology and the name of the wife of Herod the Great, so that's over two millenia of female use. Is there any instance of Doris ever being used as a male name?
Sam is not rare for girls. Sam is a diminutive for "Samantha" which has been in the top 12 names for infant girls in the United States every year since 1987. It's slightly rarer for women over 21, and rare for women over 40.
Where would Zuko go, or does it fit at all? The Japanese suffix "-ko" is traditionally female, after all.
