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Ninjasauce : Does the Mary Poppins example (a bag that contains anything) really apply here? I can think of at least one other character with a bottomless bag (Felix the Cat!)...does this deserve it's own trope? Does it already have one that I'm missing? Does anyone else see the distinction? Am I crazy?
Ununnilium: Changed it back, because it's a specific example.
Morgan Wick: The description REALLY needs fleshing out, because right now it implies that it ONLY applies to Time Travel plots, when NONE of the examples do.
Seth: In endless nights (A book in The Sandman series) Delirium has gone nuclear in her realm and Dream and Barnabas have to round up crazys to go into her realm and save her. Since not even a member of the Endless can survive the full force of Delirium's power without going mad. Anyway to the point, after they realise their only hope are people who are already insane Matthew says this.
"Reminds me of a story i heard about a fire in a nut house. All the doctors and nurses were freaking out. Y'know we're all gonna die! all that. And then the paranoids quietly led everybody to safety. Y'see, they knew something bad was going to happen. So they already checked out the exits. They were prepaired."
I want to include this quote in the page somewhere, if just in a (Better phrased) example for the sandman bit.
In The Wild Wild West, Gordon often presents West with a new gadget he's just dreamed up, and inevitably it becomes vitally useful during that same episode. Does this count?
Fast Eddie: moving some natter
- I'm not sure if it's ever been canonically mentioned, but I'm sure Bats has a plan for taking down every member of the Justice League. We know he at least has it for Superman. (See the Marvel equivalent, below).
- He does. In fact, the entire plot of The OMAC Project portion of the company-wide crossover Infinite Crisis is that those plans get stolen by a giant spy satellite/sentient computer that systematically attempts to eliminate all superheroes. Needless to say, most of the Justice League ended up kinda pissed at Bats.
- I'm not sure if it's ever been canonically mentioned, but I'm sure Bats has a plan for taking down every member of the Justice League. We know he at least has it for Superman. (See the Marvel equivalent, below).
Kizor: Pulled this quote because - as far as I can see - it's about the Gadgeteer Genius.
- Zeetha: Good grief! How did you construct something so complicated?Agatha: Please. I always carry a Swiss Army Knife and a coil of wire.
Fast Eddie: It is really a shame to see this perfectly good trope crapped up with a bunch of "this troper" dreck.
Kizor: Pretty much. I apologize about not having finished my planned rewrite of the This Troper article and not maintaining this one properly. There was a humorous accident involving ADHD medication. In cases like this, what reason is there not to move that bunch here and ask folks to discuss their involvement with the trope on the discussion page?
Fast Eddie: Cleared out some natter.
- This troper is confused as to what exactly you mean by "time travel password".
Bob: I believe that a "time travel password" means that he has come up with a codephrase so that if he ever travels back in time he'll have a way to identify himself to his past self.
Moving this natter over.....
- I'm thinking the reasoning behind this is because of the Girl Scouts' very liberal tolerance policies which allow lesbian troop leaders, ban prayer at GS functions and allow girls to substitute the word "God" in the Girl Scout oath. (You go, girls!) I doubt if there's a contingency plan in case of Boy Scout overthrow since they're all "holy roller" these days but if you can find a link to one (or heck a link to this one) I'd be very interested in seeing them. Personally, the thought of a child army with the motto "Be Prepared" chills me to the bone.
- All of these aren't necessarily for the actual events (although they certainly will come in handy if this does happen!), but because these plans allow unique views on ordinary disasters: the Zombie Apocalypse scenario provides unique insight on rioting and pandemics, for example, while Global Flooding is basically just the effects of global warming in fast-motion. How a Girl Scout takeover would be relevant is left as an exercise for the reader.
- Perhaps you would need a special contingency plan to deal with any organization of children that has been hijacked for the purposes of warfare and terrorism. Most law enforcement organizations would blanch at the idea of using normal counter-terrorism techniques against potentially innocent dupes of adult masterminds. That is exactly what made the real-life Lord's Army, which gained its recruits by kidnapping children and forcing them to murder their own parents as their act of initiation such a horrifically devastating terrorist organization. Finding ways to avoid confrontations with active girl-scouts while targeting their adult masters would require extraordinary care and delicacy, far beyond the norm for counter-terrorist operations.
Fast Eddie Re quotes: Please see Administrative Policy.
//later: Pulled this, as it doesn't seem to be an example and bringing natter:
- Hilariously inverted in Resident Evil 4, where Leon is sent into unfamiliar territory to rescue the President's daughter... with a single handgun and a single spare clip. And his only backup is Mission Control. Of course, this is Leon we're talking about.
- Inverted? He also carries: two different radios, a pair of binoculars, a combat knife, a flashlight, a grappling hook, a portable tracking device, an attache case, a combat harness, and some gum.
- It certainly helps that he eventually comes across enough weapons to arm a small squad and enough ammunition to kill a moderately-sized guerilla army. He may not be Crazy-Prepared per se, but he's certainly crazy enough to get prepared on site, and then deal out murdermurdermurdermurdermurder.
TGBO: Right. Sorry. Anyway, I think it should be straight example of the trope, since Leon brings all this stuff with him in order to, basically, ask some people around whether they've seen the girl or not. This whole "rescuring the president's daughter" stuff starts later.
KJMackley: I cut this because shooting rocks in the air as part of Earthbending is hardly Crazy-Prepared, they were probably prepared for simple ground invasion and just aimed their ammo up a few degrees.
- In Avatar The Last Airbender, the Earth Kingdom palace has some well prepared and heavy duty anti-air defenses, which is kind of funny, given that the only sources of flight in the setting come from the sky bisons who where wiped out along with the group of pacifists that owned them, and the War Balloons, which they couldn't possible know of its existence yet, and would only be deployed by the enemy 12 episodes later.
- If you want to get technical, those thrusters were originally designed as underwater maneuvering jets, allowing a Nanosuit-clad soldier to swim faster than they could using just their own strength (even if said strength is supplemented by the suit's strength). These jets might be what the suit uses in speed mode when underwater. It was just lucky for Nomad that they work out of water.
- Jets for maneuvering underwater would be very inefficient and sluggish (not reaction-speed wise, but achievable thrust) in air. If the zero-g manoeuvring in question occurs in vacuum, then that's just Failing Physics Forever, as underwater manoeuvring jets wouldn't carry reaction matter.
- They are inefficient and sluggish, the aliens can fly circles around you. Even without that comparison, you're hardly flying through the spire like Superman.
- If you want to get technical, those thrusters were originally designed as underwater maneuvering jets, allowing a Nanosuit-clad soldier to swim faster than they could using just their own strength (even if said strength is supplemented by the suit's strength). These jets might be what the suit uses in speed mode when underwater. It was just lucky for Nomad that they work out of water.
