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Prfnoff: Removed The Handmaid's Tale, an example which I added. Sure, it may be Anvilicious and have a Writer on Board, but I'm not sure it really qualifies as one of these.

Frank75: Why is Quentin Tarantino on that list? His movies may be anything, but not very political. Does it have to do with his foot fetish?

^Needs some examples or to be deleted. And I can't think of any examples.


Kizor: Wiki schizophrenia. Text that argues with itself is useless until fixed. Could you, please?

  • Rainbow Six by Tom Clancy spends an enormous amount of effort to convince the reader that hippie treehuggers are the scariest form of terrorist and will scheme to destroy civilization. For many, this is inadvertently humorous but more often just Wall Banger material.
    • That's not what it looked like to this editor. The real message of the book appeared to be a warning about what sorts of horrific acts megacorporations with the resources of a small nation at their disposal and little accountability or government oversight might be capable of, with the wrong people at the wheel.

Also pulled this...

  • The Da Vinci Code has been criticized for having a protagonist with no personality, who simply "serves as a mouthpiece for Dan Brown's theories." What little plot there was appears to have been cribbed from The Fugitive. Oh, and the plot-driving murder will seem very familiar to anyone with much knowledge of Hellboy comics.
    • There are pages and pages of characters asking each other "Please, tell me more about how the Catholic Church controls the formation of all babies' brains in the womb.", "Why certainly. The Freemasons found an ancient document..."

Because I didn't think that Brown actually believed his ***.


Why the flying FUCK are Scientology ads allowed on this site!?!?!?!?

Rann: Wow. Okay, the vehemence about Lewis and whether or not the parable was intended from the start added nothing, not even humor, so it was removed. It's his stated intent, thus informing about it is adding knowledge. Yelling that he was fucking lying is pointless. If you think he was, fine, but just sit there and think it.

  • No, you misunderstand me. I am referring to the LITERAL ADVERTISMENTS for the Church of Scientology that appear on this site. I realise the site needs advertising revenue, but to accept their money is just beyond the pale... Would you accept money to advertise the National Socialist Vanguard or NAMBLA? Just as bad, IMHO.

    • Rann: No, I wasn't talking to you, I just forgot to put a separator. As to that, I'm guessing the ads are probably google ad type things, and the reason there are scientology ads are that we talk about scientology on the site.


Austin: Which Shortpacked strips are considered unfair? Any strip I can think of show fanboys complaining about little things, and other strips give reasons as to why they're whining. I'm okay with it being here, I'd just like some examples of viewpoints Willis doesn't cover fairly.
Austin: Probably not worth putting in the article, but I wanted to say that one "Boondocks" strip had the message "The opinions expressed by Aaron Mc Gruder are not necessarily those of Aaron Mc Gruder." Though, that followed a statement by Huey that all art should be in the public domain, and may not cover his other political statements.
foxley: Moved this
  • When Brookside was cancelled, the show's creator Phil Redmond had his final say in a rebellious scripted rant about how ‘TV and society's not like it was’ voiced by its longest-running character.

to Author Filibuster where it fits better. To be an Author Tract all of Brookside would have had to have been like this.


Horrid Red Things: Is a work an Author Tract just because the premise is religious? For instance, the Left Behind series?
Rann: People, conversation on the main page is one thing, just going off on random rants about how white authors are afraid of big black dick is yet another. c.c
arromdee: I think that the Martha Washington stories pretty much are a counterexample against the Frank-Miller rant, at least with respect to having white male heroes. I took the whole section out; perhaps someone else can rewrite it in a saner manner.

theorc Changed back the Empire example to its previous form. If it's truly like what the previous edit said, it doesn't belong here. If it isn't (and if it makes that comparison I think it is no matter what you believe) then it should stay this way.


Silent Hunter: What about The Third World War? Hackett actually admits its a plea for increased conventional defence spending in an afterword.
Austin: "And then lampshades it in Cartoon Wars. Repeatedly. Let it never be said that, whatever their views, Parker and Stone are not self-aware"

I question this. I wonder whether they did it because they felt so, or because people kept criticizing the show for doing so. And if afterwards, they kept inserting author tracts, it becomes an example of acknowledging flaws without doing anything to fix them, which is not something anyone should ever be praised for.


Real Slim Shadowen: Took this out.

  • ...And without the jokes. Tends to upset people who've only read The Daily Show's parody strip.

Why? 'cause fuck your natter, that's why.

PuppetChaos: You will never stop the natter.


Twin Bird: Removed,

  • Basically the whole purpose of Sore Thumbs is to bash Republicans, usually with "Republicans are stupid because I say so!".

Because that's kind of the idea. The entire strip is an acknowledged Troll.


PuppetChaos: In a recent, post-series interview, Kawamori stated that he deliberately left the "love triangle" unresolved because he doesn't believe that human relationships can't be solved by a single, neat choice. Then he went and said that he didn't believe in monogamy, either.

Is it wrong that I want to say 'haha oh wow' to this?


Joss Whedon touches on his existentialist views in the the Firefly episode "Objects In Space", through Jubal Early. Joss goes into much deeper detail in the episode commentary. Does it count when the bad guy is the mouthpiece?

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