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Ghilz Perpetually Confused Since: Jan, 2001

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Sep 21st 2021 at 4:33:56 PM •••

Older Than They Think: Irabeth Tirabade is not the first half-orc paladin to appear in a d20 CRPG (though she is the first to get significant focus). A half-orc paladin of Torm named Grykk Bannersworn could be recruited as a cohort in Neverwinter Nights 2: Storm of Zehir. The same game also had a Neutral Evil aasimar like Daeran, though Belueth the Calm was nothing like him in any other respect.

I kinda don't get what's the point of this entry? Half orc Paladins aren't "new". Paladins have been a core class since like 2nd ed D&D, and half-orcs have been able to be paladins since 3.0.

Heck, D&D has had a FULL Orc Paladin since 1997 (Called Shield of Innocence). The first one in a CRPG? Maybe, not counting thousands of player characters no doubt. But that seems like an overly narrow superlative for something that's not been that rare on the tabletops those CRPG inspired.

Like "Older Than They Think" carries the implication people find something new. And combining one of the core race with a strength bonus with one of the classes that wields weapons and armor and hits thing isn't something new no one's thought about before WOTR

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Neverwhere Since: May, 2017

Sep 21st 2021 at 7:16:03 PM •••

I think it has to be a wide-spread misconception for it to be Older Than They Think. It would be too subjective otherwise, even for a YMMV. An Orc/Half-Orc Paladin breaks stereotypes, but it's hardly a rare concept; a Google search proves that.

There's even a trope for it: Square Race, Round Class

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