Discussion WhatAnIdiot / StevenUniverse

Connie lampshades how bad an idea it is, so it's not an example as What An Idiot can't be played with.

Ty.

Uh, I was looking over some of the reasons other examples were cut in an attempt to see if they could be improved, and the one for "The Trial" sounds like it was cut for just a small part not being entirely correct? The quote I saw was "The Diamonds are OP, they don't need security", but this is a trial where the accused...murdered a Diamond, which is already ludicrous enough, so wouldn't there be incentive to protect the other Diamonds so history didn't repeat itself? And does that invalidate the rest of the example by proxy? There was still a running palanquin brought into the trial room, and the Diamonds didn't try to actually stop the vehicle once it started moving..

I'm trying to parse together what was invalidating the earlier examples so that I have more of a guideline in the future, but the reasons for cutting the others seemed very vague on the response end, saying that Dewey Wins was the only legit example and nothing else. To what extent would an Idiot moment be invalidated by an emotional response? Steven is in a really bad rut during the events of his abduction with Lars, but that doesn't seem to excuse how he doesn't tell Topaz about Garnet in an attempt to sway her (heck, he tries to sway Aquamarine and fails) and kind of blocks Lars's attempt at escape by not going with him, endangering his safety. I'm also not sure why Lars, being the cynic that he is, wouldn't point out that Aquamarine could easily just backstab Topaz anyway since she's already proven that she's capable of doing it by not being true to her word and taking Lars anyway. (the other two examples listed on that cut page, I can kind of see the cut reasoning, as the Diamonds are really set in stone so to speak, but wasn't Blue trying to...atone for what she had done to Pink? I guess she stopped trying when she found out Steven had her Gem up until later episodes. And Connie asking Steven to break customs in front of three very strict rulers is just...odd. She should know that this could strain Steven's attempt to get White Diamond to reason with him.)

Thanks for taking the time to read this brick. I know a lot of earlier examples were discussed in the forums with almost nobody knowing the source material (If i recall correctly, the poster replying stated that they didn't know the show), so that amplifies the confusion, and getting more opinions on these matters is always a boon.