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despoa Since: Aug, 2012
Sep 25th 2020 at 5:53:51 PM •••

I have seen many people describe Endgame's girl power scene as cringy or laugh-inducing, even by actual women. It used to be an example of narm but it was removed. Should it be added back?

MisterApes-a-lot Since: Mar, 2018
Oct 19th 2018 at 11:50:19 PM •••

When adding examples, try to elaborate on why the scene was meant to be dramatic, and then explain why it is funny instead.

Also, try to do so without complaining. Yeah, the line between Narm and complaining is thin, but it is still there. Try to avoid some common complain-y phrases like "amateurish," "cringe-worthy," "embarrassing," etc. You may be correct, but this isn't the page for it.

Try to remember, Narm is a moment intended to be DRAMATIC, but comes off as COMEDIC. Again, thin line, but it exists nonetheless. Things that are not narm:

-A joke that breaks the tension of a scene. That's not meant as a dramatic moment, so it does not count as narm. Level Breaker, maybe?

-A joke that just flops. Same principle, not meant to be dramatic, so it is not narm.

-A moment that's played straight, BUT not played for drama. Ex: "It's impossible to take Bob seriously in the scene where he goes for a walk, because of his big, foam cowboy hat." See, the moment in question is not meant to be dramatic, so it does not fall under narm.

-A thing you get used to over time. This one overlaps with nitpicking sometimes. Essentially, a surface-level judgment that no longer bothers you once you finally see the work. Like "It's impossible to take anything in Adventure Time seriously, with its loosey-goosey art-style." Or "It's impossible to take anything Captain America does seriously since you're always reminded that he's the same actor who played the Human Torch."

That's something that doesn't wind up bothering you by the time you actually watch the work. This one is a little trickier, but rule of thumb is a knee-jerk reaction to a costume, actor, or logo unveiling does not count as narm.

Now, what if the hero has the silliest costume you've ever seen? Then you describe any dramatic moments in the film where the costume pulls you out of the scene and makes the scene funny instead. And ideally, explain why it is meant to be dramatic but is funny instead.

But just saying "The costume, that is all. Every scene immediately becomes ridiculous with that costume..." is not a real example of narm.

Edited by MisterApes-a-lot
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