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Vermouth
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05:26:52 AM Dec 18th 2012
Any chance of listing the names of the buzzers sounds which are actual clips from classical music (e.g. episode "England" with the patriotic tunes) and pop music (e.g. Alan Davis getting "My Old Man's A Dustman")?
Kivutar
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11:39:47 PM Jul 2nd 2012
Could someone please help me sort the tropes into folders? I'm not very good with anything more complicated than an abacus, and I can't figure out what I did wrong.
Telcontar
moderator
05:01:57 AM Jul 3rd 2012
The issue is that you forgot to do [[/folder]] at the bottom of the folders. I've fixed it for you.
Kivutar
04:43:52 PM Jul 3rd 2012
Thanks!
ShiroiHane
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12:00:49 PM Jan 23rd 2012
Panelist or Panellist? The page currently uses both which is annoying. According to the OED, Panelist is US English. Should the UK spelling get preference because this is a British show, or the US spelling? The Rules just say "we stick to English on all pages", no what variety of English. Oddly, despite being British myself, it is the "Panellist" spelling that looks wrong to me ^^;
Tabs
01:54:45 AM Jan 24th 2012
British spelling, I suppose, since QI is a British show. Similarly, both spellings of "program"/"programme" are used on this page. I imagine tropers are just used to spelling words one way or another, though I never thought of that as an eyesore. Feel free to fix them. :)
BestOf
moderator
08:27:42 PM Nov 2nd 2012
Spelling conventions should be consistent across a page. I've taken the liberty to "correct" "panelist" into "panellist" and "program" into "programme." If you want to do further such revisions, I recommend that you pick the British spelling convention on this page, as it is about a British show and thus more likely to be read and edited by people who observe British spelling conventions. If you could use a dictionary to determine which spelling is used in Britain, that would be great.
Zeke
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11:59:14 PM May 18th 2011
So... what really does have large teeth and only one facial expression?
Chariset
02:42:14 PM May 24th 2011
The giant panda.
Chariset
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11:09:37 AM May 16th 2011
edited by Chariset
Was anyone else surprised at how well Ross Noble does on this show? I thought he'd be either completely baffled or completely inappropriate, but instead he was the best kind of Cloud Cuckoolander, especially in Series H... and watching him play off David Mitchell was priceless.
TwilightLord
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02:25:33 PM Jan 22nd 2011
I put this example under Geeky Turn-On some time ago:
  • Phill Jupitus gets a moment that might count in the "Europe" episode.
    Stephen Fry: Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit für das deutsche Vaterland! Danach lasst uns alle streben brüderlich mit Herz und Hand!
    Phill Jupitus: I have an erection.

And just now, I found it has been removed, with the note "Removed non-example. Phill was actually offering a mock translation." ...Really? Didn't seem like that to me. For one, "I have an erection" is way too short a phrase to conceivably be a translation for that, mock or otherwise. For two, Phill's tone of voice was more like "Wow." than like "This is what this means", and for three, Stephen Fry's response is "It is hard not to be moved by that, isn't it?" So I don't think it was a mock translation at all, I think Phill was actually jokingly claiming that he got an erection from hearing Stephen Fry speak German.

Chariset
11:11:07 AM May 16th 2011
I agree - Phill does his "I'm aroused by that/he's aroused by that" schtick nearly once an episode.
IceCrystal
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12:46:19 AM Jan 12th 2011
edited by IceCrystal
Is Rob Brydon linking to I'm Alan Partridge an actual error, or just a joke that I'm not getting?
Chariset
06:48:54 PM May 16th 2011
Er... no idea. He was in it, but he's better known for Gavin and Stacey or even Would I Lie to You?
cyberlieutenant
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07:08:46 AM Dec 5th 2010
Was thinking about starting a characters page: given the number of frequent guests it's probably one of the few panel shows it could be done with. Anyone else think it'd be worth it?
SilentDave
09:49:17 AM Dec 5th 2010
edited by SilentDave
Maybe. Some of the guests (e.g. Bill Bailey) have their own pages already, though.
cyberlieutenant
12:06:37 PM Dec 5th 2010
The regulars and frequent guests (defined for argument's sake as guests who have appeared at least twice) with their own pages are Stephen Fry, Bill Bailey, David Mitchell, Lee Mack and Ross Noble. Of course shows like Top Gear and Whose Line Is It Anyway? who also have character pages may account for a few more.
SomeSortOfTroper
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05:43:35 PM Jul 11th 2010
My Friends... and Zoidberg...

is a trope where dialogue takes the form "Group A and Bob" where group A is the name of some group that it would be advantageous or expected of Bob to be in e.g. "I'll save all my friends and Zoidberg" —> Implying that Zoidberg isn't a friend even though you hang out with him all the time.
cassius335
06:15:31 PM Jul 11th 2010
The page itself says "A, B, C, Bob." In the case of QI, it's Guest, Guest, Guest, Alan Davies. Stephen Fry will often introduce the three guests in glowing terms along a theme, and then rescind that theme for Alan, implying that Alan isn't as smart or famous or whatever as the other three ("Three tenors and a fiver")
SomeSortOfTroper
05:36:51 AM Jul 12th 2010
It's Group A, Group B, Group Group Group because sometimes it is Ladies And Gentlemen or some other way of making the group but it still works by making the group and then making the individual stick out of it.

"Human and congressman", "Everybody worth mentioning and Crusader", "My friends and Zoidberg". They all work in exactly the same way. They say the group and then the individual, this is different from saying a theme and then rescinding that theme.

The trope is they say "Group and Individual" to imply the individual is not a member of that group. None of that happens here. You actually can't say that happens, none of your arguments contain those words.

There is no group, there is no joke by the implication: it works by explicitly treating Alan Davies differently.
cassius335
06:22:45 AM Jul 12th 2010
Um... I can only assume you don't watch the show, since the entire POINT of those intro's is "Everybody worth mentioning and Alan Davies."

The "Group" is the Guests, Alan is the Individual. I think it was the Future episode, as an example, which was, in essence, three very smart people "...and Alan Davies, who has also turned up."
stardust_rain
07:09:58 AM Jul 12th 2010
"Three astronauts and one astro-minus-twenty-five" "Three tenors and a fiver" "the rarest of truffles, David Mitchell; [can't decipher what he's saying about Rich Hall], the strangest of fruit Jimmy Carr;...and something furry that's fallen behind the oven and the dishwasher, Allen Davies."

Not to mention Alan's weird buzzer compared to others.
SomeSortOfTroper
09:19:13 AM Jul 12th 2010
The "point" isn't the issue. If it's only that The Last of These Is Not Like the Others then that's that but My Friends... and Zoidberg is the specific version where you say a group's name (that's "saying the actual name" not implying it is there, saying the actual group name e.g. Humanity, Loved Ones) and then subvert the encompassing aspect of the group by mentioning the individual.

I don't see why this point isn't getting through. It's a phrasing, it's a standard format. Saying the group and then an individual is different from setting up a pattern and then serving away from it. It has to have "My Friends" and then "And Zoidberg". The page explicitly says and has said for years " A character lists one or more groups or categories (not individuals) [emphasis added]".

The example on the page was closer to Bread, Eggs, Milk, Squick.
cassius335
10:02:58 AM Jul 12th 2010
Well, it's not Bread, Eggs, Milk, Squick, because that the trope for "When a mundane conversation goes bad."

I'll stick it under The Last of These Is Not Like the Others for now...
ading
04:01:03 AM Nov 28th 2012
My Friends... and Zoidberg would be "Let's meet our panellists and Alan Davies".
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