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PantaroP Reality and Fantasy combine Since: Mar, 2011
Reality and Fantasy combine
Jun 5th 2021 at 10:57:11 PM •••

I feel like many of these examples are just end-of-the-universe scenarios, except they use the word "existence" instead of "universe", and somebody assumed "existence" means "omniverse".

I mean, the Treehouse of Horror example just showed the destruction of a universe and God, but used the word "existence" and didn't show any signs of other universes being destroyed. I mean, Kang and Kodos had to be somewhere to commentate afterwards, but there's no somewhere if there's no omniverse.

AllAboutTropes232 Since: Dec, 2019
Aug 23rd 2020 at 3:03:08 PM •••

This wasn't anyone's intention in Spider-verse, but I seem to remember a line from the epilogue that implied a multiverse-level collapse was possible. Does that qualify?

marnalhasason Sanest madman you met yesterday Since: Jun, 2014
Sanest madman you met yesterday
Jun 21st 2014 at 7:53:47 AM •••

Is the event in DW Season 5 finales REALLY a Z-3? Cyberman's comment about how "All universes will be deleted" seems to be here to show that it's Z and not just an ordinary X-4/5. Than we see that objest and events are erased from time, indicating that it's at least Z-2 (they don't exist in any meaningful state and never did, as the page says), but I don't understan how this line confirms Z-3. Maybe I'm just sleepy and not getting something?

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Punk314 Since: Sep, 2015
Jun 17th 2019 at 3:18:01 PM •••

I'm with you there. "All universes will be deleted" makes it Z-2, not Z-1, but Z-3 is a whole new level of apocalypse.

All Just A Dream is more Z-3 than this!

azraelfinalstar Since: Nov, 2010
Jan 25th 2012 at 11:44:38 PM •••

most of these verses don't even have an 'omniverse' to kill, several (Like DBGT) don't even have a multiverse.

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Bioness Since: Apr, 2013
Apr 3rd 2013 at 8:46:28 PM •••

I removed the Dragon Ball bit, but honestly this page and the multiversal destruction one are just a mess.

The only fictions that even have a proven Omniverse are Marvel and DC, and given that each of them has hundreds of beings which destroy and create universes all the time, the fact that they are the most neglected is nothing short of ironic.

Basically people are misunderstanding the terminology and abusing it on fictions which they "think" have or can do that.

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Arachnos Since: Oct, 2010
Oct 23rd 2013 at 5:22:10 PM •••

Yeah, I feel like about 95%, if not 100% of those examples should be removed. Some people seem to think that "if it's a universal apocalypse and no other universes are implied to exist then it's a Class Z".

I've only seen one example of an explicitly possible Class Z, and that's in an online roleplay. It's really not as common as people think.

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yunatwilight Since: Jan, 2001
Jun 28th 2011 at 1:34:03 PM •••

  • In Turtles Forever, Ch'rell (the 2003 Shredder) plans to destroy Turtle Prime in order to eliminate the Turtles once and for all. That this would result in all that exists being destroyed (including the crazy bastard who plans to make it happen) is the reason Karai (who saw Shredder as her de facto father) decides to turn face.

This would not have destroyed all of reality, but only those universes that contained versions of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. It's an X-5, and already listed on that page.

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