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I agree.

Seconding this, I don’t use Burn Melt and even then Unfinished Reverie came off too niche for most of the playable cast for me tbh, especially with Burning killing you quick if you ain’t careful

Since there are no objections, the entry has been added.

It's "niche" but I don't think it should go here (because it's not "impractical on everyone" yet). Ningguang can use it pretty well as 2pc + 2pc (until you get an absolutely cracked Nighttime Whispers set, which is a resin inefficient farm), Zhongli burst nuke builds use it, and Archaic Petra still has a strong role to play in one of the most meta teams in the game (Neuvillette Hypercarry, use Zhongli with 4pc AP and get a Hydro Crystalise shard to trigger 4pc set effect for Hydro damage buff)

With mono-element teams on the rise, Archaic Petra is becoming a lot more popular. It's not just Neuvillette hypercarry, there's also Arlecchino and Lyney too. So AP has evolved a smidgeon beyond being a niche pick.

Personally, I don't think it'll be enough to get her off the list: - Vaporise is doing a significant amount of work in that team. That Candace is C6 - note how her Burst pulses even in the middle of Arlecchino's Normal Attack string. Candace needs her C6 to apply Hydro fast enough, off-field, without any need to switch characters. C6 4 star is not easy. - Candace has an advantage over XQ & Yelan in multi-target content with the AoE Hydro application that reliably allows Arlecchino to trigger vaporise on all enemies, but in single-target that advantage is negated because XQ & Yelan can contribute substantial damage - Finding a niche is not sufficient to offset objectively poor performance. For example, Qiqi is the best Beidou burst driver (2 NAs, jump, repeat), but that's not enough to offset her bad kit.

However, it would be possible to note that after unlocking her C6, there is exactly one character she works well with - Arlecchino.

Fair enough. Her combo with Arlecchino could still be mentioned to soften the blow on this page, though.

I feel like some Tropers and misunderstanding being low tier, as getting one viable comp doesn't suddenly save the character. Compare with Albedo who has some viable team comps with Itto or paired with Zhongli in Hu Tao/Arlecchino Vaporize, but he's still surpassed by many other options including as a geo support by Chiori. Low Tier means the character is disappointing in comparison to their peers. C6 Candace can work with Arlecchino but that's one team with half a dozen other viable characters that can take her spot.

Like how I just put the Skyward Spine back on the weapons section. Yes, it's okay on Raiden but that's one character in the entire roster and it's still outdone by weapons you get for free (Moonpiercer for Dendro teams, The Catch for everything else).

I also don't believe we need to "soften the blow" on this page, as that leads to natter and makes the entry look like it's at war with itself. Candace's entry already mentioned she can grab the flex spot on infusion teams, which would include Arlecchino.

It's true that (besides physical) geo is the worst element, but there's a couple things making me hesitate to say it goes here. For one, none of the geo characters are bad enough to be on here, minus the Traveler who is typically bad in every element. For two geo resonance is still very good if not the best in the game. And for three we have Chiori coming in two updates, so it feels like Hoyoverse is taking steps to repair this element and I really don't want to make an entry just to take it back in a couple months. So what are we really saying about geo? It ranks low but still gets the job done? That feels like troping just for trope's sake.

A compromise is we could put an entry just for Crystallize, as bar Navia using it as ammo the reaction fails in it's intended usage: making a shield. If you want a shield you don't make a crystallize team, you just take one of the many shield generating characters.

Fair enough. Guess that means we can make a new "Reaction" folder then.

Burning could go there too, nobody plays a burning team. At least until Hoyoverse hears this and creates Burning Nilou.

Burning is never played for the damage it deals, but has its uses to extend pyro application. You see Burning used in teams like Ganyu Melt and Air Fryer.

Crystallize sucks, kind of. But has a use for speedrunning the second half of abyss, where you put a support character on Archaic Petra and have them pick up a leftover Crystallize shard from the first floor. This way you can get a 10 seconds, 35% elemental damage bonus to a specific element without needing a source of geo application.

I don't think Furina is much of a fix since nearly all of Eula's competition can also utilize Furina's buff to better success, and the core problems are still all present: lots of physical resistant foes, energy hungry, burst timing and gaining max damage on the lightfall sword is often impractical.

1) Furina fixes the burst timing issue by buffing Eula when she goes off-field. Because Furina's buff still applies to lightfall even when Eula swaps out, it removes the faustian bargain that Eula always had— swap out early for a better timing on LFS and give up your buffs or wait until it falls and get a suboptimal LFS timing. Furina lets you swap out without any guilt.

2) Lately, there haven't been as many physical resistant enemies. This abyss floor 12, not a single enemy has excessive physical resistance. The fontainian and sumerian robots trend towards standard elemental resistance of 10%, which really dilutes the pool of enemies that you don't want to run Eula on. She's not the best character but physical damage isn't gimped as far as resistances go. If anything, this abyss it's Xiao that got the short end of the stick as he can't fight coppelia with its 70% anemo resistance and he's not great at breaking mage/lector shields.

3) Eula's competition (other hypercarries) also have greater opportunity cost when running furina over their other options— for example MH Hu Tao gives up the interrupt resistance and damage mitigation from XQ and the elemental damage and grouping from kazuha because she has to run jean with furina. Teams that run bennett as their primary healer have to contend with lower fanfare stacks. Quicken teams that want to flex into quickbloom furina and use yaoyao either have to spend field time on Yaoyao to max fanfare or similarly get lower stacks.

Eula's competition in this case is anybody else you'd want to run Furina with, not just hypercarries. Since you only ever get one Furina. Having a DPS that is only viable if you pair her with another 5-star character with the strongest buff in the game feels like Furina is the one doing the work here, not Eula.

And Furina's buff still being in effect after Eula switches out takes some of the sting off not getting max stacks on her burst, but it's still a significant damage loss compared to what you would have gotten with the max stacks AND Furina's burst. It adds some flexibility but the intended playstyle hasn't changed.

What isn't flexible is the team composition for Eula & Furina. It demands Charlotte/Mika as the team healer and Cryo battery, with Raiden/Kuki/Fischl for Superconduct and more energy. That means no interruption resistance from Diona/Zhongli/Layla and no crit rate buff from Rosaria (or Blizzard Strayer, since nobody stays frozen with Eula). Use anybody else and you start running low on energy fast (or sacrifice offensive stats for ER).

In summary, expecting one specific 5-star character to fix another feels like it highlights Eula's weaknesses more than it helps her. That she's just being carried on the back of better characters.

You might be overstating how contested Furina is. She's good but she demands teambuilding costs that counterbalance her buff. I would still but her below characters like Nahida, Kazuha or Xingqiu not in terms of power but flexibility. For teams that have the space to fit her in, like Eula teams, she is a much larger boon than for teams that have to give up alot and already have good teams (like Hu Tao).

"And Furina's buff still being in effect after Eula switches out takes some of the sting off not getting max stacks on her burst, but it's still a significant damage loss compared to what you would have gotten with the max stacks AND Furina's burst. It adds some flexibility but the intended playstyle hasn't changed."

We should assume that if Eula's pilot is swapping out early, it's done so to precisely because the extra damage isn't needed. Eula is harder to play than other characters but generally we should grade on proper execution. No one ever knocks hu tao because the average player regularly fuck up her dash cancels.

My main point is that Furina has solved Eula's biggest problem, which was a complete desert of good supports, which can mostly be traced to the on-field requirement of many buffs. In fact she retroactively makes Mika better, which means technically Eula gained two good supports.

I still don't think Eula has been redeemed, but if you can get some other forum regulars to back you up then I'll drop it.

Disagree on removing Eula. Furina has done little to change how much Eula is being played in the Spiral Abyss (i.e barely) when compared to Jean whose playrate skyrocketed with Furina's release (going from 0.1% usage to 32% usage). I agree with Furina being too contested as a buffer to have meaningfully redeemed Eula even if theoretically Furina helps. Furina helps Dehya too but it says more about how powerful Furina is than anything about Dehya's (lack of) strength.

Also in terms of "perfect play", Klee is on the weak list too because her playstyle is so cumbersome despite having strong damage if played "perfectly". I'd say Eula is in a similar boat. It's just too cumbersome to play her "perfectly" and not worth the struggle, just like Klee.

I feel Navia put the nail in Eula's coffin as Navia is basically Eula without all her playstyle issues.

While I think it's likely going to end up here, let's give it a couple weeks for the analysis sites to see if it has any value.

It's been a couple weeks, most sites say it has little to no value. I'd go ahead.

Roger that, I'll see what can be written about the set.

I can't offer a proper consensus on him since I never built nor used him, but that second point is what probably saves him from earning a spot in this list, especially considering how Eula's best damage is packaged into her burst, and messing it up because the enemy either becomes invincible or decides to burrow underground really hurts her; Freminet's burst on the other hand is simply a Super Mode that powers up his skill, thus less likely to whiff against enemies.

I feel like we should take Faruzan off, as at C0 to C5 it's not that she's unplayable it's just she needs a lot of ER. But I digress.

Kujo Sara is decent at what she's meant to do (an attack buff charge shot with a burst nuke), but she's definitely clunky to use (C2 makes her better but she only generates energy if you do a proper charge shot) and completely outclassed in roles for electro damage or attack buffs.

Why was Kujo taken off originally? She's never been that popular.

I think she was removed without discussion. I didn't re-add her in case someone else knew something I didn't, but she continues to be at the bottom of Abyss tier lists despite Electro's reentry into the meta with the release of Dendro. I don't see that changing any time soon.

At this point we could just make one entry on physical and call it good, they're all pretty terrible. While Claymores are slightly more viable due to Freminet, Eula, and Razor that doesn't make them good. Since physical Keqing evaporated when Dendro was released, the only reason any of the physical swords are used is because their high base attack works with Bennett. Physical Zhongli is a meme build, so nobody really uses the Crescent Pike either.

Yes. Getting increased crit rate stacks and losing them upon proccing a crit hit is bad when youe crit activates at the worst possible time, and all of it is rendered redundant with a well built crit ratio.

By this point it's clear they aren't regressing back here anytime soon, so delete them.

I'm not in favor of a "former" folder since Rescued From the Scrappy Heap already does that.

My thinking is that she is pretty balanced. Her boss performance against things like the NUT and the Baptist might be terrible since they have damage windows but she goes up in performance against those big enemies without said windows since she can't miss timing nor overkill them. And you can still play around the windows so it's not like she' unplayable.

She has some upsides, too. Despite so much of her damage being tied to her burst, her autos still have great ratios and she comes pre-packaged with interrupt resistance and def, so she's quite self-sufficient. So self-sufficient that she can even be run in Hyperbloom teams as a driver, and she actually has quite a number of teams beyond just Eula hyper, which ameliorates her weakness against elemental shields somewhat since she can lean on her supports for that. And she's somewhat balanced around some amount of inefficiency with her ult (like missing it or overkilling something) so when that can't happen, like against the mushroom bird or boss enemies without invincibility, she actually does very well. Her DPS spikes to insane levels if she can get a great ult off on multiple enemies. Perfectly played, Eula is one of the better characters in the game, it's just that she takes a bit of work, skill and luck to get there.

There aren't many bosses without damage windows though, I'm seeing maybe 5 normal bosses (Oceanid, Primo Geovishap, PMA, Coral Defenders, and the Jadeplume Terrorshroom) and 5 weekly bosses (Andrius, Childe, Azdaha, La Signora, and the Dendro Dragon Guardian) that Eula is an okay pick (excluded ones either have specific element requirements, move out of range frequently, or have invincibility phases). That's only 10 out of 31!

Eula's usage as a Hyperbloom driver is not an asset imo, as she's contributing nothing to the team just proc-ing off-field effects with her N As which literally any character could be doing. Any anemo character will be a better teammate (or Zhongli or a hydro/dendro/electro character).

I also strongly disagree that she's self sufficient, as she demands running superconduct and two cryo partners (or one and Raiden) just to meet her very high energy needs. Eula teams are one of them most inflexible ones out there, interrupt resistance is not precious enough to ignore this fact.

She actually doesn't need superconduct, (at least if you're not running her against robots). Eula has access to physical shred with grimheart stacks usage so just a touch of extra shred will bridge the resistance gap at the start of her rotations. Shenhe, C6 Rosaria, C4 Xinyan, double Geo or Zhongli can bridge that gap. Or you can just go in without shred if you have C2 Eula, it'll probably work ngl.

WRT her being a hyperbloom driver, Eula can contribute Fridge interaction which sort of acts like a pseudo-Dendro application, and none of the rest of her damage interacts with the hyperbloom. Sort of a similar way to how Beidou fits into Hyperbloom teams (because Beidou has a hard time triggering seeds), non-interaction is leveraged as a bonus to stack everything onto your EM trigger. Eula also has very high personal damage and solves the weakness of Hyperbloom being less suited for single target since her ult is great Ao E.

She might not be the best hyperbloom/revMelt/monocryo driver that exists for any given team, but these teams can be ran with her if you just want a change of pace or the current abyss demands it. While her best team is probably her hyper Electro-Battery-Flex teams, she's more flexible than you'd think.

https://library.keqingmains.com/combat-mechanics/elemental-effects/simultaneous-reaction-priority

If you're sincerely saying that Eula is best in hyperbloom, then you're kind of proving my point of why Eula is a disappointment. This implies that Eula's intended playstyle of extremely high physical burst damage is so terrible in the current meta that's it recommended you abandon it to run her as a defensive driver being carried by hyperbloom (something Razor could do for a lot less primogems than Eula).

Let's not get distracted by "competency" here, as all the characters on this trope are competent. "Good for a change of pace" is not a defense.

Yes, Eula sims better with Hyperbloom than any other of her teams. This is almost surely a higher DPS than any of her hyper teams as they usually clock in around 40k or so. In a dual target scenario that I just set up when she drives in Hyperbloom, Eula contributes 31% of the team's total damage, though admittedly I don't think I managed to set up the configuration s.t. the second target is affected by Tri-Karma. If she has the opportunity, Eula *does* do a lot of damage, she just needs to get there.

https://gcsim.app/sh/6qR66rwRc8Tk

However, being best run in a non-traditional fashion shouldn't instantly qualify as a disappointment otherwise we would have to have Raiden up there because she too is best run as Hyperbloom trigger. Hyperbloom is just that broken. My only point was that Eula has got more teams than just Eula hyper, so her weakness to elemental shields is ameliorated a bit. She's not great, but I think she is serviceable. Speaking of serviceable, I recently had my mind changed about Diluc wrt his place in the meta and his "carry" teams seem to sim very closely to what Eula sims at. In fact I promise you, his highest DPS team is probably a burgeon team of all things.

All's that to say, Eula edges out Diluc just a bit with good play, so if you really want to add her here, then by all means, go ahead, I think that's a perfectly fine baseline to establish for a Low-Tier character. But if you do so, I would recommend adding Diluc as well due to their roughly equivalent power levels. Then I would start eyeing Xiao and Itto because those two don't really sim much better than Eula nor Diluc do.

One factor in Diluc's favor is he's a standard banner character, meaning he's a lower investment than the limited banner Eula.

I still argue that Eula is being carried in a hyperbloom team, unlike Raiden in the same role or Diluc in a burgeon team. They're contributing to the team goal, Eula is not.

But I really don't want to talk about hyperbloom Eula as its not viable at all. Keqingmains doesn't even list it as a team option. Eula is strictly for physical superconduct.

The WIP rewrite for the full guide does includes Eula Hyperbloom; I'll ping it to you if you'd like.

But sure, if you imagine the "letdown" of Eula being that her best teams don't let her really interact with her kit, I understand. But as a matter of how much damage her teams do, Eula is more than adequate, especially if you recognize her Hyperbloom team as one of them.

Honestly, I'm in favor of including Eula here. She's a tragic case of being rendered obsolete due to physical damage being out-performed and power-crept by transformative reaction buffs and Dendro in general, and has struggled to carve out her own niche ever since.

I'd largely agree with the above statement, but I think that goes true for *alot* of characters is all. If you want to establish the baseline there then I'm for it, but that opens up a lot of characters for this list. Albedo, Itto, Diluc come to mind real quickly.

Not Itto. His usage rates are too high to even be considered here (over triple Eula's in the 3.7 abyss). Abyss usage rates aren't everything, but they aren't to be ignored either. Meanwhile Dehya was used more than Eula, and I think we can all agree Dehya deserves to be on this list.

For Albedo and Diluc I agree that they've been trending downward ever since release, and I'm not entirely opposed to adding them. But one advantage they have over Eula is that their kits are extremely easy to use and have high team synergy giving them more roles to play even if other characters are better at those roles.

Eula meanwhile is hard to play, has only one viable team comp (which is devoting 3 characters to supporting her alone), and is held back by just how terrible physical is as an element. Geo's pretty bad for sure, but at least geo can pop shields and isn't resisted by ALL of Genshin's many MANY machine enemies.

I would note that Eula's teams are much more than just superconduct (Reverse Melt, Mono Cryo, Hyperbloom) and even in those teams, you really need one or so characters that are full-time supporting Eula. For example:

• Eula - DPS

• Diona - Shielder, Healer, Battery

• Fischl/Raiden/Yae - Superconduct / DPS

• Flex, for example Yelan, Xingqiu, Bennett

In the above example, there is only one "full time" supporter of Eula who is Diona. The Electro and Flex slot can be filled with strong DPS units like Fischl, Raiden and Yelan. Honestly, Eula's team flexibility is *way* higher than Itto's.

First, Eula is terrible in melt as her cryo application is abysmal. Mono cryo is just worse superconduct for a Eula that can't meet her energy needs, and I'm not acknowledging hyperbloom at all.

Second, you're confusing the character's common role with their role in the team set-up. In a Eula Superconduct team, Fischl/Raiden/Yae are not acting as a DPS they're at best a sub-DPS and battery providing energy and electro application for said superconduct.

Third, Yelan and Xingqiu are terrible for this team. Their hydro steals electro-charged reactions that should have gone to superconduct, Eula's attack speed is too slow to be the driver, and they can't even proc freeze properly since Eula will shatter it. You're basically just running half an electro charge team with Eula for some bizarro reason.

Finally, yes Itto has only one team comp and that's triple geo with whatever fourth unit you want. But he's not comparable here due to how busted geo supports are and just how terrible physical is as an element. Again, he's still used in the spiral abyss, while Eula is not.

TLDR Physical sucks and that ruins Eula.

1) Eula's low Cryo application in Rev Melt is a good thing because that'll take reactions from your Rosaria. In that composition, Eula is played as a physical DPS, but the composition works because both C6 Rosaria and Eula shred both Physical and Cyro. Rosaria, Xiangling/Jean and Bennett all function as normal.

2) Fischl, Raiden and Yae are acting as DPS. There really isn't a distinction of who should go on field anymore in the latest theorycrafting, there's no more "Sub-DPS" and "DPS" roles. It's more an understanding that "this character does DPS, and they have this amount of field requirements". Fischl, Yae, Eula and Raiden are all DPS characters that have differing amount of field requirements, Fischl the least, Yae is in the middle and Raiden the most when played in a dual carry team with Eula.

3) WRT to Xingqiu and Yelan, you really should read up on how elemental reactions work and gauge theory because you're mistaken about how it works here. Electrocharged maintains a depleting aura of both hydro and electro simultaneously, so there will be an exposed Electro aura on the enemy that allows Eula to apply superconduct without any issue.

https://library.keqingmains.com/combat-mechanics/elemental-effects/elemental-gauge-theory#electro-charged

https://library.keqingmains.com/evidence/combat-mechanics/elemental-effects/transformative-reactions#frozen--shatter

• Electro-Charged (EC) is unique to all previously covered reactions. The current theory is that in Electro-Charged, both Hydro and Electro simultaneously function and coexist as both the aura and trigger.**

What this means is that it's pretty much impossible for Hydro from Yelan or Xingqiu to interfere with your superconduct reaction, as you have three cases:

• (1U Hydro + 1U Cyro) + 1U Electro: creates 1U Freeze, which acts as Cyro Aura and will superconduct with any amount of Electro so long as 1U Electro > (1U Hydro - (1U - Decay) Cyro) assuming worst case scenario where Cyro is applied first.

• (1U Hydro + 1U Electro) + 1U Cryo: First creates a lingering Electrocharged aura, then Eula's 1U from her skill will create superconduct, frozen and probably shatter all at the same time. Both Hydro and Electro decay at the same rate, which means there's never any electro aura that's not exposed for the Cryo to interact with. By the time EC decays completely, Yae, Fischl or Raiden will be applying Electro again so it's a moot point.

• (1U Cryo + 1U Electro) + 1U Hydro: This opens with superconduct so we're fine here, right?

Now, I will grant that there is one case where your superconduct could get eaten, which is:

• (2U Hydro + 1U Cryo) + 1U Electro: As this will expose a simultaneous Frozen + Hydro aura which will absorb the electro first to create EC. For whatever reason, Frozen + EC doesn't react. But this is also fine as the only case when this can happen is on Yelan's initial cast of her burst which is the only 2U Hydro application that she has (Xingqiu is all 1U). In this case you can simply use any Fischl skill first to expose Electro through EC, then superconduct with Eula skill like so:

• (2U Hydro + 1U Electro) + 1U Cryo

Finally, the addition of freeze is only a boon to a Eula team as it doesn't matter if you shatter them instantly as they wouldn't have been frozen anyways without the hydro application. Plus you get a little extra shatter damage, which is there. The only downside is it might mess up dodge timing if the enemy was in the middle of an animation.

But the trope isn't for outclassed characters but bottom tier ones, which Diluc isn't. He's still stronger as a lead pyro DPS than any of the 4-star pyros (Xiangling is an off-fielder, she doesn't count in this role) and very easy to use (unlike Klee). That and he's not a character most spent primos on, most just pu

Yoimiya I could take it or leave it. She's received a lot of buffs but public perception of her remains low and even with her power I just don't like how she leaves herself an open target (and I've had her since her debut!). But I'd be lying if I said I didn't add her to the Abyss team every time the Thunder Manifestation is around.

One character I do want to talk about is Candace, who really doesn't seem to have a niche she fits into at the moment. Especially if Faruzan got added despite having a clear niche.

Bennett is a better Pyro on-fielder than Diluc, but sure, that's fair. I still think he's probably the weakest 5* DPS option in the game now, but I've been convinced that he's not completely terrible.

Yoimiya might have a low public perception, but theory crafters have warmed up to her. She's still not a top tier, being a Pyro DPS not named Xiangling or Hu Tao, but she was no longer seen as one of the worst 5* characters in the game.

As for candace, I'm looking through the KQM guide for her that's still under construction, and she seems to have several bloom teams, which means there's only so bad that she can get. I would be very surprised if there will ever exist a Hydro unit that's "bad" just because Hydro is the best element in the game because of its intersection with every good reaction. This was true before 3.0 and is even more true after discovering how good Hyperbloom is.

I would hold off on adding Candace at least for a little bit.

Candace has already been added by Stage 7-4, BTW. Just want to let you know about it.

Yes I did. I waited 3 months, her usage rates have not improved at all, and it's evident that analysis sites like KQM are avoiding her because she's just not worth talking about.

I also added Mika too.

I think that's fair. She definitely is not very good, despite her element advantages. I was wrong on that.

From what I've seen her niche is way too narrow at the moment, basically requiring Kokomi to function properly because of how much splash damage you take, and her sales were extremely poor, showing the community was disappointed in her playstyle. She has all the same problems as Yoimiya (difficulty hitting targets, requires the best supports to work) but even more brutal because of the team requirements and not really having a Bi S artifact set for her. The only thing she really has is the AOE and it's just not enough.

I do think once we have more dendro units like healers and (hopefully) shielders Nilou will age better, but right now she's just too niche.

As for Shenhe, I've seen a lot of complaints about her being too niche for a 5* too, saying she should have been a 4* instead, but I don't have a lot of reference with playing her personally since I didn't pull for her.

While I'm neutral on keeping her here or cutting her, the difference between Nilou and Shenhe is that while Shenhe functions best as cryo support her teams usually still have a flex spot to take out foes that cryo can't touch. Not so with Nilou who really hits a wall against foes resistant to Dendro and Hydro (Golden Wolflord, Dendro Cube, certain Fatui shields, Abyss Heralds/Lectors, etc) and she's unable to take anyone else to deal with them.

That said, she is amazing at her niche.

Nilou is definitely good at her niche. To me it's mostly a question of whether that niche is too narrow at the moment, which I would say yes to. If a 5 star character can't function without another specific 5 star (Kokomi), I'd say their niche is too narrow.

Reminder Nilou also sold worse than Yoimiya did (2nd lowest sold banner ever), and for similar reasons. Again, I think she will improve over time once more Dendro units come out, especially if we ever get a Dendro shielder, but right now she's very overspecialized.

I say cut her. Anybody that has Rescue entry shouldn't be on this list anymore. Dendro did help her a lot.

This isn't a Lisa case, who is flawed in was that Dendro can't fix.

I agree as well though I kinda would like some more opinions before her entry gets removed.

Altier 97 made a duplicate entry for Yae Miko, either ignoring, or didn’t see that her entry was already hidden, and they didn’t bother to come to the discussion.

I’ve already deleted the duplicate entry, but I’m unsure of what to do next.

Maybe we should PM them to this discussion to understand why they think that Miko is a Low-Tier Letdown?