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Removed to here to discuss what are genuine entries and what are just \\\"fandom is not 100% united in opinion\\\".
The move has been triggered by the last entry on the [=WoR=] segments which was added within an hour or so of the Maidens episode sponsor-only release. It\\\'s not possible to form a BrokenBase situation in such a short, and restricted, amount of time. While I know fans don\\\'t agree on whether the segments are good, bad or just \\\'meh\\\', I\\\'ve never seen anyone care enough to argue about differences in opinion either.
All the entries could use a review, however.
------------
* BrokenBase:
** [[strike:The voice acting is easily the most contentious aspect of the series so far. The question is whether you\\\'re basing your complaints on the voice \\\'\\\'pitches\\\'\\\' or the voice \\\'\\\'acting\\\'\\\'. In a remarkable transition, VocalEvolution has rendered much of the conversation obsolete.]]
** [[strike:Ruby\\\'s PerkyGoth voice at the end of the \\\'\\\'Yellow\\\'\\\' trailer led to mixed reactions as well. The high-pitched, somewhat childish tone \\\'\\\'does\\\'\\\' fit her, admittedly, given her short height, youthful appearance and [[https://twitter.com/montyoum/status/305239829455724544/photo/1 apparent]] [[https://twitter.com/montyoum/status/285515674648977408/photo/1 cheerfulness]]. However, it doesn\\\'t mean people particularly \\\'\\\'like\\\'\\\' it either. Part of the blame can be attributed to the fact that [[TheStoic the way she was presented]] [[TrailersAlwaysLie in the \\\'\\\'Red\\\'\\\' trailer suggested otherwise]]. Monty himself says that the \\\"Red\\\" trailer was more of a weapon resume than a character trailer; Ruby had no actual character in it. Of course, following episode 1, most people aren\\\'t complaining about it as much now due to VocalEvolution and her personality becoming better established.]]
** [[strike:Weiss:]]
*** [[strike:Her bitchy attitude during the first half of Season 1 caused some friction, especially from those who saw her trailer and pictured her as TheStoic lonely girl. Some like the extra fire (and the extra comedy that comes from her friction with other characters), but others dislike it on account of her being, well, a bitch when it isn\\\'t really needed. Finally seems to be lessening as of Episode 8.]]
*** [[strike:Her FantasticRacism regarding Faunus is causing her to fall back into the bitchiness in some fan\\\'s eye. [[JerkJustifications Some believe she has]] [[FreudianExcuse her reasons]] (namely, [[TragicBigot being terrorized by a group of them]] that caused [[AbusiveParents problems with her father]]), but the debate is in whether it makes her in the right or not to judge an entire race based on the actions of a few of them. Does not help that her jerk tendency is [[ZigZaggedTrope zig-zagging]]. Her acceptance of Blake in Vol2 and her attempt to get Blake to communicate with her team in chapter 2 calmed this particular break.]]
** [[strike:Volume 3 brought a much needed improvement to her personality from acknowledging Ruby as a friend to even sacrificing her spot in the tournament for Yang.]]
** [[strike:Some people have a problem with Blake\\\'s behavior during \\\'The Stray\\\' and \\\'Black & White\\\', on account of them believing she throws an almost uncharacteristic temper tantrum at Weiss. Others defend her behavior, proclaiming that it was only natural for someone like Blake to \\\'\\\'eventually\\\'\\\' get fed up with Weiss\\\' (not entirely unjustified) FantasticRacism. Some feel that it was rather cold of her not to defend Velvet from Cardin (other than stare in silent contempt), while others say that her inaction isn\\\'t particularly different from how literally \\\'\\\'everybody else\\\'\\\' did nothing to Cardin (on screen, of course).]]
** There is a large BrokenBase over Volume 2, Chapter 6 \\\"Burning the Candle\\\" regarding whether there is a case of BaitAndSwitchLesbians. (The crux of the argument is that Rooster Teeth said that Remnant is \\\"queer accepting\\\" and then at the dance, everyone quickly went into male/female pairings.) While this ignores how Blake and Yang actually danced on-screen together before Sun arrived, and nobody batted an eyelash, the background dancers lacked any male/male or female/female pairings who were explicitly together during the slow dances.
** [[strike:The fact that Sun\\\'s remaining team members, Scarlet and Sage, don\\\'t show up in Volume 2 (save for one brief shot of them from very far away) despite appearing in the title opening and being hinted at during the hiatus, has left many fans very bitter.]]
** [[strike:One complaint from Vol1 was a lack of characters with diverse ethnicity. Some argue that since RWBY is, or at least is based off, an anime, the tendency for white and asian characters to have similar skin tones shouldn\\\'t be surprising. Emerald\\\'s addition in Vol2 was happily accepted, but the tendency for the majority of background characters to be various shades of white is still criticized.]]
** [[strike:[[PreciousPuppy Zwei]] is a mixed bag depending on who you ask. An instant hit with the fandom when he was first introduced, his further appearances have soured some fans into thinking Zwei was thrown in for comedic effect and/or fanservice. Most notably, in \\\"Breach,\\\" while other characters expended considerable effort and resources to defeat Grimm, Zwei manages to stop one simply by headbutting it.]]
** [[strike:Whether Ozpin\\\'s decision on how to address the White Fang base at Mountain Glen[[note]] Namely, sending a single team of freshmen with one teacher as backup.[[/note]] was a good idea or not and how much blame he deserves for the subsequent breach is a hotly debated topic.]]
** [[strike:While many fans readily enjoy what\\\'s been released for \\\'\\\'Grimm Eclipse\\\'\\\', many are upset that it just focuses on Team RWBY and relegates other teams (especially JNPR and CFVY) to just being possible DLC. However, since it\\\'s an early access game, it\\\'s likely other characters will come as a free update. According to WordOfGod from the games creators during the recent RWBY life stream they are in fact going to add a lot more additional content to the game, including new playable characters.]]
** Yang\\\'s winning streak. The only fight she\\\'s ever unquestionably lost was a CurbStompBattle against the older and more experienced Neo. Other than that, Yang has won all of her fights and even against opponents that require teamwork, Yang is almost always the key element to ensuring Team RWBY\\\'s victory. Is making Yang a total {{Badass}} who wins all of the time an interesting and satisfying [[SubvertedTrope subversion]] to the [[TheWorfEffect usual expectations]] by showing just how powerful [[TheBigGuy characters like her]] should be, or does Yang\\\'s badassery make her fights boring and predictable along with making the rest of Team RWBY, especially Ruby herself, look like incompetent wannabe\\\'s by comparison?
** Ruby\\\'s losing streak. With the exception of her initial fight in the beginning of the series, solo fights tend to go poorly for Ruby, especially if Ruby should be relieved of Crescent Rose for that particular encounter. It\\\'s either portraying Ruby as in over her head against more cunning foes, realistic given her training with a sniper-scythe rather than her fists, or a blatant usage of TheWorfEffect to bolster up the others.
** When it comes to the World of Remnant segments, there\\\'s usually two sides. The one side that loves the segments as they expand on the lore of RWBY and find them to be nice [[BreatherEpisode break]]. Others, however, find it to be [[{{Filler}} meaningless padding]] that would have worked better if it were put in exposition in the actual show, rather than be separated into a brief episode. There are others who find the segments being placed in the worst spot, usually when the story hits a high note. This becomes {{egregious}}[[note]][[DrinkingGame/TVTropesWiki drink]][[/note]] when the episode focuses on [[spoiler:the Maidens]], as some people are split on whether this as a nice episode, being [[SerialEscalation longer and even more animated than the other WoRs]], or if it was pointless considering that [[spoiler:Ozpin already talked about them in \\\"Fall\\\"]], right as the story hit [[spoiler:its DarkestHour]].
The move has been triggered by the last entry on the [=WoR=] segments which was added within an hour or so of the Maidens episode sponsor-only release. It\\\'s not possible to form a BrokenBase situation in such a short, and restricted, amount of time. While I know fans don\\\'t agree on whether the segments are good, bad or just \\\'meh\\\', I\\\'ve never seen anyone care enough to argue about differences in opinion either.
All the entries could use a review, however.
------------
* BrokenBase:
** [[strike:The voice acting is easily the most contentious aspect of the series so far. The question is whether you\\\'re basing your complaints on the voice \\\'\\\'pitches\\\'\\\' or the voice \\\'\\\'acting\\\'\\\'. In a remarkable transition, VocalEvolution has rendered much of the conversation obsolete.]]
** [[strike:Ruby\\\'s PerkyGoth voice at the end of the \\\'\\\'Yellow\\\'\\\' trailer led to mixed reactions as well. The high-pitched, somewhat childish tone \\\'\\\'does\\\'\\\' fit her, admittedly, given her short height, youthful appearance and [[https://twitter.com/montyoum/status/305239829455724544/photo/1 apparent]] [[https://twitter.com/montyoum/status/285515674648977408/photo/1 cheerfulness]]. However, it doesn\\\'t mean people particularly \\\'\\\'like\\\'\\\' it either. Part of the blame can be attributed to the fact that [[TheStoic the way she was presented]] [[TrailersAlwaysLie in the \\\'\\\'Red\\\'\\\' trailer suggested otherwise]]. Monty himself says that the \\\"Red\\\" trailer was more of a weapon resume than a character trailer; Ruby had no actual character in it. Of course, following episode 1, most people aren\\\'t complaining about it as much now due to VocalEvolution and her personality becoming better established.]]
** [[strike:Weiss:]]
*** [[strike:Her bitchy attitude during the first half of Season 1 caused some friction, especially from those who saw her trailer and pictured her as TheStoic lonely girl. Some like the extra fire (and the extra comedy that comes from her friction with other characters), but others dislike it on account of her being, well, a bitch when it isn\\\'t really needed. Finally seems to be lessening as of Episode 8.]]
*** [[strike:Her FantasticRacism regarding Faunus is causing her to fall back into the bitchiness in some fan\\\'s eye. [[JerkJustifications Some believe she has]] [[FreudianExcuse her reasons]] (namely, [[TragicBigot being terrorized by a group of them]] that caused [[AbusiveParents problems with her father]]), but the debate is in whether it makes her in the right or not to judge an entire race based on the actions of a few of them. Does not help that her jerk tendency is [[ZigZaggedTrope zig-zagging]]. Her acceptance of Blake in Vol2 and her attempt to get Blake to communicate with her team in chapter 2 calmed this particular break.]]
** [[strike:Volume 3 brought a much needed improvement to her personality from acknowledging Ruby as a friend to even sacrificing her spot in the tournament for Yang.]]
** [[strike:Some people have a problem with Blake\\\'s behavior during \\\'The Stray\\\' and \\\'Black & White\\\', on account of them believing she throws an almost uncharacteristic temper tantrum at Weiss. Others defend her behavior, proclaiming that it was only natural for someone like Blake to \\\'\\\'eventually\\\'\\\' get fed up with Weiss\\\' (not entirely unjustified) FantasticRacism. Some feel that it was rather cold of her not to defend Velvet from Cardin (other than stare in silent contempt), while others say that her inaction isn\\\'t particularly different from how literally \\\'\\\'everybody else\\\'\\\' did nothing to Cardin (on screen, of course).]]
** There is a large BrokenBase over Volume 2, Chapter 6 \\\"Burning the Candle\\\" regarding whether there is a case of BaitAndSwitchLesbians. (The crux of the argument is that Rooster Teeth said that Remnant is \\\"queer accepting\\\" and then at the dance, everyone quickly went into male/female pairings.) While this ignores how Blake and Yang actually danced on-screen together before Sun arrived, and nobody batted an eyelash, the background dancers lacked any male/male or female/female pairings who were explicitly together during the slow dances.
** [[strike:The fact that Sun\\\'s remaining team members, Scarlet and Sage, don\\\'t show up in Volume 2 (save for one brief shot of them from very far away) despite appearing in the title opening and being hinted at during the hiatus, has left many fans very bitter.]]
** [[strike:One complaint from Vol1 was a lack of characters with diverse ethnicity. Some argue that since RWBY is, or at least is based off, an anime, the tendency for white and asian characters to have similar skin tones shouldn\\\'t be surprising. Emerald\\\'s addition in Vol2 was happily accepted, but the tendency for the majority of background characters to be various shades of white is still criticized.]]
** [[strike:[[PreciousPuppy Zwei]] is a mixed bag depending on who you ask. An instant hit with the fandom when he was first introduced, his further appearances have soured some fans into thinking Zwei was thrown in for comedic effect and/or fanservice. Most notably, in \\\"Breach,\\\" while other characters expended considerable effort and resources to defeat Grimm, Zwei manages to stop one simply by headbutting it.]]
** [[strike:Whether Ozpin\\\'s decision on how to address the White Fang base at Mountain Glen[[note]] Namely, sending a single team of freshmen with one teacher as backup.[[/note]] was a good idea or not and how much blame he deserves for the subsequent breach is a hotly debated topic.]]
** [[strike:While many fans readily enjoy what\\\'s been released for \\\'\\\'Grimm Eclipse\\\'\\\', many are upset that it just focuses on Team RWBY and relegates other teams (especially JNPR and CFVY) to just being possible DLC. However, since it\\\'s an early access game, it\\\'s likely other characters will come as a free update. According to WordOfGod from the games creators during the recent RWBY life stream they are in fact going to add a lot more additional content to the game, including new playable characters.]]
** Yang\\\'s winning streak. The only fight she\\\'s ever unquestionably lost was a CurbStompBattle against the older and more experienced Neo. Other than that, Yang has won all of her fights and even against opponents that require teamwork, Yang is almost always the key element to ensuring Team RWBY\\\'s victory. Is making Yang a total {{Badass}} who wins all of the time an interesting and satisfying [[SubvertedTrope subversion]] to the [[TheWorfEffect usual expectations]] by showing just how powerful [[TheBigGuy characters like her]] should be, or does Yang\\\'s badassery make her fights boring and predictable along with making the rest of Team RWBY, especially Ruby herself, look like incompetent wannabe\\\'s by comparison?
** Ruby\\\'s losing streak. With the exception of her initial fight in the beginning of the series, solo fights tend to go poorly for Ruby, especially if Ruby should be relieved of Crescent Rose for that particular encounter. It\\\'s either portraying Ruby as in over her head against more cunning foes, realistic given her training with a sniper-scythe rather than her fists, or a blatant usage of TheWorfEffect to bolster up the others.
** When it comes to the World of Remnant segments, there\\\'s usually two sides. The one side that loves the segments as they expand on the lore of RWBY and find them to be nice [[BreatherEpisode break]]. Others, however, find it to be [[{{Filler}} meaningless padding]] that would have worked better if it were put in exposition in the actual show, rather than be separated into a brief episode. There are others who find the segments being placed in the worst spot, usually when the story hits a high note. This becomes {{egregious}}[[note]][[DrinkingGame/TVTropesWiki drink]][[/note]] when the episode focuses on [[spoiler:the Maidens]], as some people are split on whether this as a nice episode, being [[SerialEscalation longer and even more animated than the other WoRs]], or if it was pointless considering that [[spoiler:Ozpin already talked about them in \\\"Fall\\\"]], right as the story hit [[spoiler:its DarkestHour]].
Changed line(s) 1 from:
n
to:
Removed to here to discuss what are genuine entries and what are just \\\"fandom is not 100% united in opinion\\\".
The move has been triggered by the last entry on the [=WoR=] segments which was added within an hour or so of the Maidens episode sponsor-only release. It\\\'s not possible to form a BrokenBase situation in such a short, and restricted, amount of time. While I know fans don\\\'t agree on whether the segments are good, bad or just \\\'meh\\\', I\\\'ve never seen anyone care enough to argue about differences in opinion either.
All the entries could use a review, however.
------------
* BrokenBase:
** [[strike:The voice acting is easily the most contentious aspect of the series so far. The question is whether you\\\'re basing your complaints on the voice \\\'\\\'pitches\\\'\\\' or the voice \\\'\\\'acting\\\'\\\'. In a remarkable transition, VocalEvolution has rendered much of the conversation obsolete.]]
** [[strike:Ruby\\\'s PerkyGoth voice at the end of the \\\'\\\'Yellow\\\'\\\' trailer led to mixed reactions as well. The high-pitched, somewhat childish tone \\\'\\\'does\\\'\\\' fit her, admittedly, given her short height, youthful appearance and [[https://twitter.com/montyoum/status/305239829455724544/photo/1 apparent]] [[https://twitter.com/montyoum/status/285515674648977408/photo/1 cheerfulness]]. However, it doesn\\\'t mean people particularly \\\'\\\'like\\\'\\\' it either. Part of the blame can be attributed to the fact that [[TheStoic the way she was presented]] [[TrailersAlwaysLie in the \\\'\\\'Red\\\'\\\' trailer suggested otherwise]]. Monty himself says that the \\\"Red\\\" trailer was more of a weapon resume than a character trailer; Ruby had no actual character in it. Of course, following episode 1, most people aren\\\'t complaining about it as much now due to VocalEvolution and her personality becoming better established.]]
** [[strike:Weiss:]]
*** [[strike:Her bitchy attitude during the first half of Season 1 caused some friction, especially from those who saw her trailer and pictured her as TheStoic lonely girl. Some like the extra fire (and the extra comedy that comes from her friction with other characters), but others dislike it on account of her being, well, a bitch when it isn\\\'t really needed. Finally seems to be lessening as of Episode 8.]]
*** [[strike:Her FantasticRacism regarding Faunus is causing her to fall back into the bitchiness in some fan\\\'s eye. [[JerkJustifications Some believe she has]] [[FreudianExcuse her reasons]] (namely, [[TragicBigot being terrorized by a group of them]] that caused [[AbusiveParents problems with her father]]), but the debate is in whether it makes her in the right or not to judge an entire race based on the actions of a few of them. Does not help that her jerk tendency is [[ZigZaggedTrope zig-zagging]]. Her acceptance of Blake in Vol2 and her attempt to get Blake to communicate with her team in chapter 2 calmed this particular break.]]
** [[strike:Volume 3 brought a much needed improvement to her personality from acknowledging Ruby as a friend to even sacrificing her spot in the tournament for Yang.]]
** [[strike:Some people have a problem with Blake\\\'s behavior during \\\'The Stray\\\' and \\\'Black & White\\\', on account of them believing she throws an almost uncharacteristic temper tantrum at Weiss. Others defend her behavior, proclaiming that it was only natural for someone like Blake to \\\'\\\'eventually\\\'\\\' get fed up with Weiss\\\' (not entirely unjustified) FantasticRacism. Some feel that it was rather cold of her not to defend Velvet from Cardin (other than stare in silent contempt), while others say that her inaction isn\\\'t particularly different from how literally \\\'\\\'everybody else\\\'\\\' did nothing to Cardin (on screen, of course).]]
** There is a large BrokenBase over Volume 2, Chapter 6 \\\"Burning the Candle\\\" regarding whether there is a case of BaitAndSwitchLesbians. (The crux of the argument is that Rooster Teeth said that Remnant is \\\"queer accepting\\\" and then at the dance, everyone quickly went into male/female pairings.) While this ignores how Blake and Yang actually danced on-screen together before Sun arrived, and nobody batted an eyelash, the background dancers lacked any male/male or female/female pairings who were explicitly together during the slow dances.
** [[strike:The fact that Sun\\\'s remaining team members, Scarlet and Sage, don\\\'t show up in Volume 2 (save for one brief shot of them from very far away) despite appearing in the title opening and being hinted at during the hiatus, has left many fans very bitter.]]
** [[strike:One complaint from Vol1 was a lack of characters with diverse ethnicity. Some argue that since RWBY is, or at least is based off, an anime, the tendency for white and asian characters to have similar skin tones shouldn\\\'t be surprising. Emerald\\\'s addition in Vol2 was happily accepted, but the tendency for the majority of background characters to be various shades of white is still criticized.]]
** [[strike:[[PreciousPuppy Zwei]] is a mixed bag depending on who you ask. An instant hit with the fandom when he was first introduced, his further appearances have soured some fans into thinking Zwei was thrown in for comedic effect and/or fanservice. Most notably, in \\\"Breach,\\\" while other characters expended considerable effort and resources to defeat Grimm, Zwei manages to stop one simply by headbutting it.]]
** [[strike:Whether Ozpin\\\'s decision on how to address the White Fang base at Mountain Glen[[note]] Namely, sending a single team of freshmen with one teacher as backup.[[/note]] was a good idea or not and how much blame he deserves for the subsequent breach is a hotly debated topic.]]
** [[strike:While many fans readily enjoy what\\\'s been released for \\\'\\\'Grimm Eclipse\\\'\\\', many are upset that it just focuses on Team RWBY and relegates other teams (especially JNPR and CFVY) to just being possible DLC. However, since it\\\'s an early access game, it\\\'s likely other characters will come as a free update. According to WordOfGod from the games creators during the recent RWBY life stream they are in fact going to add a lot more additional content to the game, including new playable characters.]]
** [[strike:Yang\\\'s winning streak. The only fight she\\\'s ever unquestionably lost was a CurbStompBattle against the older and more experienced Neo. Other than that, Yang has won all of her fights and even against opponents that require teamwork, Yang is almost always the key element to ensuring Team RWBY\\\'s victory. Is making Yang a total {{Badass}} who wins all of the time an interesting and satisfying [[SubvertedTrope subversion]] to the [[TheWorfEffect usual expectations]] by showing just how powerful [[TheBigGuy characters like her]] should be, or does Yang\\\'s badassery make her fights boring and predictable along with making the rest of Team RWBY, especially Ruby herself, look like incompetent wannabe\\\'s by comparison?]]
** [[strike:Ruby\\\'s losing streak. With the exception of her initial fight in the beginning of the series, solo fights tend to go poorly for Ruby, especially if Ruby should be relieved of Crescent Rose for that particular encounter. It\\\'s either portraying Ruby as in over her head against more cunning foes, realistic given her training with a sniper-scythe rather than her fists, or a blatant usage of TheWorfEffect to bolster up the others.]]
** When it comes to the World of Remnant segments, there\\\'s usually two sides. The one side that loves the segments as they expand on the lore of RWBY and find them to be nice [[BreatherEpisode break]]. Others, however, find it to be [[{{Filler}} meaningless padding]] that would have worked better if it were put in exposition in the actual show, rather than be separated into a brief episode. There are others who find the segments being placed in the worst spot, usually when the story hits a high note. This becomes {{egregious}}[[note]][[DrinkingGame/TVTropesWiki drink]][[/note]] when the episode focuses on [[spoiler:the Maidens]], as some people are split on whether this as a nice episode, being [[SerialEscalation longer and even more animated than the other WoRs]], or if it was pointless considering that [[spoiler:Ozpin already talked about them in \\\"Fall\\\"]], right as the story hit [[spoiler:its DarkestHour]].
The move has been triggered by the last entry on the [=WoR=] segments which was added within an hour or so of the Maidens episode sponsor-only release. It\\\'s not possible to form a BrokenBase situation in such a short, and restricted, amount of time. While I know fans don\\\'t agree on whether the segments are good, bad or just \\\'meh\\\', I\\\'ve never seen anyone care enough to argue about differences in opinion either.
All the entries could use a review, however.
------------
* BrokenBase:
** [[strike:The voice acting is easily the most contentious aspect of the series so far. The question is whether you\\\'re basing your complaints on the voice \\\'\\\'pitches\\\'\\\' or the voice \\\'\\\'acting\\\'\\\'. In a remarkable transition, VocalEvolution has rendered much of the conversation obsolete.]]
** [[strike:Ruby\\\'s PerkyGoth voice at the end of the \\\'\\\'Yellow\\\'\\\' trailer led to mixed reactions as well. The high-pitched, somewhat childish tone \\\'\\\'does\\\'\\\' fit her, admittedly, given her short height, youthful appearance and [[https://twitter.com/montyoum/status/305239829455724544/photo/1 apparent]] [[https://twitter.com/montyoum/status/285515674648977408/photo/1 cheerfulness]]. However, it doesn\\\'t mean people particularly \\\'\\\'like\\\'\\\' it either. Part of the blame can be attributed to the fact that [[TheStoic the way she was presented]] [[TrailersAlwaysLie in the \\\'\\\'Red\\\'\\\' trailer suggested otherwise]]. Monty himself says that the \\\"Red\\\" trailer was more of a weapon resume than a character trailer; Ruby had no actual character in it. Of course, following episode 1, most people aren\\\'t complaining about it as much now due to VocalEvolution and her personality becoming better established.]]
** [[strike:Weiss:]]
*** [[strike:Her bitchy attitude during the first half of Season 1 caused some friction, especially from those who saw her trailer and pictured her as TheStoic lonely girl. Some like the extra fire (and the extra comedy that comes from her friction with other characters), but others dislike it on account of her being, well, a bitch when it isn\\\'t really needed. Finally seems to be lessening as of Episode 8.]]
*** [[strike:Her FantasticRacism regarding Faunus is causing her to fall back into the bitchiness in some fan\\\'s eye. [[JerkJustifications Some believe she has]] [[FreudianExcuse her reasons]] (namely, [[TragicBigot being terrorized by a group of them]] that caused [[AbusiveParents problems with her father]]), but the debate is in whether it makes her in the right or not to judge an entire race based on the actions of a few of them. Does not help that her jerk tendency is [[ZigZaggedTrope zig-zagging]]. Her acceptance of Blake in Vol2 and her attempt to get Blake to communicate with her team in chapter 2 calmed this particular break.]]
** [[strike:Volume 3 brought a much needed improvement to her personality from acknowledging Ruby as a friend to even sacrificing her spot in the tournament for Yang.]]
** [[strike:Some people have a problem with Blake\\\'s behavior during \\\'The Stray\\\' and \\\'Black & White\\\', on account of them believing she throws an almost uncharacteristic temper tantrum at Weiss. Others defend her behavior, proclaiming that it was only natural for someone like Blake to \\\'\\\'eventually\\\'\\\' get fed up with Weiss\\\' (not entirely unjustified) FantasticRacism. Some feel that it was rather cold of her not to defend Velvet from Cardin (other than stare in silent contempt), while others say that her inaction isn\\\'t particularly different from how literally \\\'\\\'everybody else\\\'\\\' did nothing to Cardin (on screen, of course).]]
** There is a large BrokenBase over Volume 2, Chapter 6 \\\"Burning the Candle\\\" regarding whether there is a case of BaitAndSwitchLesbians. (The crux of the argument is that Rooster Teeth said that Remnant is \\\"queer accepting\\\" and then at the dance, everyone quickly went into male/female pairings.) While this ignores how Blake and Yang actually danced on-screen together before Sun arrived, and nobody batted an eyelash, the background dancers lacked any male/male or female/female pairings who were explicitly together during the slow dances.
** [[strike:The fact that Sun\\\'s remaining team members, Scarlet and Sage, don\\\'t show up in Volume 2 (save for one brief shot of them from very far away) despite appearing in the title opening and being hinted at during the hiatus, has left many fans very bitter.]]
** [[strike:One complaint from Vol1 was a lack of characters with diverse ethnicity. Some argue that since RWBY is, or at least is based off, an anime, the tendency for white and asian characters to have similar skin tones shouldn\\\'t be surprising. Emerald\\\'s addition in Vol2 was happily accepted, but the tendency for the majority of background characters to be various shades of white is still criticized.]]
** [[strike:[[PreciousPuppy Zwei]] is a mixed bag depending on who you ask. An instant hit with the fandom when he was first introduced, his further appearances have soured some fans into thinking Zwei was thrown in for comedic effect and/or fanservice. Most notably, in \\\"Breach,\\\" while other characters expended considerable effort and resources to defeat Grimm, Zwei manages to stop one simply by headbutting it.]]
** [[strike:Whether Ozpin\\\'s decision on how to address the White Fang base at Mountain Glen[[note]] Namely, sending a single team of freshmen with one teacher as backup.[[/note]] was a good idea or not and how much blame he deserves for the subsequent breach is a hotly debated topic.]]
** [[strike:While many fans readily enjoy what\\\'s been released for \\\'\\\'Grimm Eclipse\\\'\\\', many are upset that it just focuses on Team RWBY and relegates other teams (especially JNPR and CFVY) to just being possible DLC. However, since it\\\'s an early access game, it\\\'s likely other characters will come as a free update. According to WordOfGod from the games creators during the recent RWBY life stream they are in fact going to add a lot more additional content to the game, including new playable characters.]]
** [[strike:Yang\\\'s winning streak. The only fight she\\\'s ever unquestionably lost was a CurbStompBattle against the older and more experienced Neo. Other than that, Yang has won all of her fights and even against opponents that require teamwork, Yang is almost always the key element to ensuring Team RWBY\\\'s victory. Is making Yang a total {{Badass}} who wins all of the time an interesting and satisfying [[SubvertedTrope subversion]] to the [[TheWorfEffect usual expectations]] by showing just how powerful [[TheBigGuy characters like her]] should be, or does Yang\\\'s badassery make her fights boring and predictable along with making the rest of Team RWBY, especially Ruby herself, look like incompetent wannabe\\\'s by comparison?]]
** [[strike:Ruby\\\'s losing streak. With the exception of her initial fight in the beginning of the series, solo fights tend to go poorly for Ruby, especially if Ruby should be relieved of Crescent Rose for that particular encounter. It\\\'s either portraying Ruby as in over her head against more cunning foes, realistic given her training with a sniper-scythe rather than her fists, or a blatant usage of TheWorfEffect to bolster up the others.]]
** When it comes to the World of Remnant segments, there\\\'s usually two sides. The one side that loves the segments as they expand on the lore of RWBY and find them to be nice [[BreatherEpisode break]]. Others, however, find it to be [[{{Filler}} meaningless padding]] that would have worked better if it were put in exposition in the actual show, rather than be separated into a brief episode. There are others who find the segments being placed in the worst spot, usually when the story hits a high note. This becomes {{egregious}}[[note]][[DrinkingGame/TVTropesWiki drink]][[/note]] when the episode focuses on [[spoiler:the Maidens]], as some people are split on whether this as a nice episode, being [[SerialEscalation longer and even more animated than the other WoRs]], or if it was pointless considering that [[spoiler:Ozpin already talked about them in \\\"Fall\\\"]], right as the story hit [[spoiler:its DarkestHour]].
Changed line(s) 1 from:
n
to:
Removed to here to discuss what are genuine entries and what are just \\\"fandom is not 100% united in opinion\\\".
The move has been triggered by the last entry on the [=WoR=] segments which was added within an hour or so of the Maidens episode sponsor-only release. It\\\'s not possible to form a BrokenBase situation in such a short, and restricted, amount of time. While I know fans don\\\'t agree on whether the segments are good, bad or just \\\'meh\\\', I\\\'ve never seen anyone care enough to argue about differences in opinion either.
All the entries could use a review, however.
------------
* BrokenBase:
** [[strike:The voice acting is easily the most contentious aspect of the series so far. The question is whether you\\\'re basing your complaints on the voice \\\'\\\'pitches\\\'\\\' or the voice \\\'\\\'acting\\\'\\\'. In a remarkable transition, VocalEvolution has rendered much of the conversation obsolete.
** Ruby\\\'s PerkyGoth voice at the end of the \\\'\\\'Yellow\\\'\\\' trailer led to mixed reactions as well. The high-pitched, somewhat childish tone \\\'\\\'does\\\'\\\' fit her, admittedly, given her short height, youthful appearance and [[https://twitter.com/montyoum/status/305239829455724544/photo/1 apparent]] [[https://twitter.com/montyoum/status/285515674648977408/photo/1 cheerfulness]]. However, it doesn\\\'t mean people particularly \\\'\\\'like\\\'\\\' it either. Part of the blame can be attributed to the fact that [[TheStoic the way she was presented]] [[TrailersAlwaysLie in the \\\'\\\'Red\\\'\\\' trailer suggested otherwise]]. Monty himself says that the \\\"Red\\\" trailer was more of a weapon resume than a character trailer; Ruby had no actual character in it. Of course, following episode 1, most people aren\\\'t complaining about it as much now due to VocalEvolution and her personality becoming better established.]]
** Weiss:
*** Her bitchy attitude during the first half of Season 1 caused some friction, especially from those who saw her trailer and pictured her as TheStoic lonely girl. Some like the extra fire (and the extra comedy that comes from her friction with other characters), but others dislike it on account of her being, well, a bitch when it isn\\\'t really needed. Finally seems to be lessening as of Episode 8.
*** Her FantasticRacism regarding Faunus is causing her to fall back into the bitchiness in some fan\\\'s eye. [[JerkJustifications Some believe she has]] [[FreudianExcuse her reasons]] (namely, [[TragicBigot being terrorized by a group of them]] that caused [[AbusiveParents problems with her father]]), but the debate is in whether it makes her in the right or not to judge an entire race based on the actions of a few of them. Does not help that her jerk tendency is [[ZigZaggedTrope zig-zagging]]. Her acceptance of Blake in Vol2 and her attempt to get Blake to communicate with her team in chapter 2 calmed this particular break.
** Volume 3 brought a much needed improvement to her personality from acknowledging Ruby as a friend to even sacrificing her spot in the tournament for Yang.
** Some people have a problem with Blake\\\'s behavior during \\\'The Stray\\\' and \\\'Black & White\\\', on account of them believing she throws an almost uncharacteristic temper tantrum at Weiss. Others defend her behavior, proclaiming that it was only natural for someone like Blake to \\\'\\\'eventually\\\'\\\' get fed up with Weiss\\\' (not entirely unjustified) FantasticRacism. Some feel that it was rather cold of her not to defend Velvet from Cardin (other than stare in silent contempt), while others say that her inaction isn\\\'t particularly different from how literally \\\'\\\'everybody else\\\'\\\' did nothing to Cardin (on screen, of course).
** There is a large BrokenBase over Volume 2, Chapter 6 \\\"Burning the Candle\\\" regarding whether there is a case of BaitAndSwitchLesbians. (The crux of the argument is that Rooster Teeth said that Remnant is \\\"queer accepting\\\" and then at the dance, everyone quickly went into male/female pairings.) While this ignores how Blake and Yang actually danced on-screen together before Sun arrived, and nobody batted an eyelash, the background dancers lacked any male/male or female/female pairings who were explicitly together during the slow dances.
** The fact that Sun\\\'s remaining team members, Scarlet and Sage, don\\\'t show up in Volume 2 (save for one brief shot of them from very far away) despite appearing in the title opening and being hinted at during the hiatus, has left many fans very bitter.
** One complaint from Vol1 was a lack of characters with diverse ethnicity. Some argue that since RWBY is, or at least is based off, an anime, the tendency for white and asian characters to have similar skin tones shouldn\\\'t be surprising. Emerald\\\'s addition in Vol2 was happily accepted, but the tendency for the majority of background characters to be various shades of white is still criticized.
** [[PreciousPuppy Zwei]] is a mixed bag depending on who you ask. An instant hit with the fandom when he was first introduced, his further appearances have soured some fans into thinking Zwei was thrown in for comedic effect and/or fanservice. Most notably, in \\\"Breach,\\\" while other characters expended considerable effort and resources to defeat Grimm, Zwei manages to stop one simply by headbutting it.
** Whether Ozpin\\\'s decision on how to address the White Fang base at Mountain Glen[[note]] Namely, sending a single team of freshmen with one teacher as backup.[[/note]] was a good idea or not and how much blame he deserves for the subsequent breach is a hotly debated topic.
** While many fans readily enjoy what\\\'s been released for \\\'\\\'Grimm Eclipse\\\'\\\', many are upset that it just focuses on Team RWBY and relegates other teams (especially JNPR and CFVY) to just being possible DLC. However, since it\\\'s an early access game, it\\\'s likely other characters will come as a free update. According to WordOfGod from the games creators during the recent RWBY life stream they are in fact going to add a lot more additional content to the game, including new playable characters.
** Yang\\\'s winning streak. The only fight she\\\'s ever unquestionably lost was a CurbStompBattle against the older and more experienced Neo. Other than that, Yang has won all of her fights and even against opponents that require teamwork, Yang is almost always the key element to ensuring Team RWBY\\\'s victory. Is making Yang a total {{Badass}} who wins all of the time an interesting and satisfying [[SubvertedTrope subversion]] to the [[TheWorfEffect usual expectations]] by showing just how powerful [[TheBigGuy characters like her]] should be, or does Yang\\\'s badassery make her fights boring and predictable along with making the rest of Team RWBY, especially Ruby herself, look like incompetent wannabe\\\'s by comparison?
** Ruby\\\'s losing streak. With the exception of her initial fight in the beginning of the series, solo fights tend to go poorly for Ruby, especially if Ruby should be relieved of Crescent Rose for that particular encounter. It\\\'s either portraying Ruby as in over her head against more cunning foes, realistic given her training with a sniper-scythe rather than her fists, or a blatant usage of TheWorfEffect to bolster up the others.
** When it comes to the World of Remnant segments, there\\\'s usually two sides. The one side that loves the segments as they expand on the lore of RWBY and find them to be nice [[BreatherEpisode break]]. Others, however, find it to be [[{{Filler}} meaningless padding]] that would have worked better if it were put in exposition in the actual show, rather than be separated into a brief episode. There are others who find the segments being placed in the worst spot, usually when the story hits a high note. This becomes {{egregious}}[[note]][[DrinkingGame/TVTropesWiki drink]][[/note]] when the episode focuses on [[spoiler:the Maidens]], as some people are split on whether this as a nice episode, being [[SerialEscalation longer and even more animated than the other WoRs]], or if it was pointless considering that [[spoiler:Ozpin already talked about them in \\\"Fall\\\"]], right as the story hit [[spoiler:its DarkestHour]].
The move has been triggered by the last entry on the [=WoR=] segments which was added within an hour or so of the Maidens episode sponsor-only release. It\\\'s not possible to form a BrokenBase situation in such a short, and restricted, amount of time. While I know fans don\\\'t agree on whether the segments are good, bad or just \\\'meh\\\', I\\\'ve never seen anyone care enough to argue about differences in opinion either.
All the entries could use a review, however.
------------
* BrokenBase:
** [[strike:The voice acting is easily the most contentious aspect of the series so far. The question is whether you\\\'re basing your complaints on the voice \\\'\\\'pitches\\\'\\\' or the voice \\\'\\\'acting\\\'\\\'. In a remarkable transition, VocalEvolution has rendered much of the conversation obsolete.
** Ruby\\\'s PerkyGoth voice at the end of the \\\'\\\'Yellow\\\'\\\' trailer led to mixed reactions as well. The high-pitched, somewhat childish tone \\\'\\\'does\\\'\\\' fit her, admittedly, given her short height, youthful appearance and [[https://twitter.com/montyoum/status/305239829455724544/photo/1 apparent]] [[https://twitter.com/montyoum/status/285515674648977408/photo/1 cheerfulness]]. However, it doesn\\\'t mean people particularly \\\'\\\'like\\\'\\\' it either. Part of the blame can be attributed to the fact that [[TheStoic the way she was presented]] [[TrailersAlwaysLie in the \\\'\\\'Red\\\'\\\' trailer suggested otherwise]]. Monty himself says that the \\\"Red\\\" trailer was more of a weapon resume than a character trailer; Ruby had no actual character in it. Of course, following episode 1, most people aren\\\'t complaining about it as much now due to VocalEvolution and her personality becoming better established.]]
** Weiss:
*** Her bitchy attitude during the first half of Season 1 caused some friction, especially from those who saw her trailer and pictured her as TheStoic lonely girl. Some like the extra fire (and the extra comedy that comes from her friction with other characters), but others dislike it on account of her being, well, a bitch when it isn\\\'t really needed. Finally seems to be lessening as of Episode 8.
*** Her FantasticRacism regarding Faunus is causing her to fall back into the bitchiness in some fan\\\'s eye. [[JerkJustifications Some believe she has]] [[FreudianExcuse her reasons]] (namely, [[TragicBigot being terrorized by a group of them]] that caused [[AbusiveParents problems with her father]]), but the debate is in whether it makes her in the right or not to judge an entire race based on the actions of a few of them. Does not help that her jerk tendency is [[ZigZaggedTrope zig-zagging]]. Her acceptance of Blake in Vol2 and her attempt to get Blake to communicate with her team in chapter 2 calmed this particular break.
** Volume 3 brought a much needed improvement to her personality from acknowledging Ruby as a friend to even sacrificing her spot in the tournament for Yang.
** Some people have a problem with Blake\\\'s behavior during \\\'The Stray\\\' and \\\'Black & White\\\', on account of them believing she throws an almost uncharacteristic temper tantrum at Weiss. Others defend her behavior, proclaiming that it was only natural for someone like Blake to \\\'\\\'eventually\\\'\\\' get fed up with Weiss\\\' (not entirely unjustified) FantasticRacism. Some feel that it was rather cold of her not to defend Velvet from Cardin (other than stare in silent contempt), while others say that her inaction isn\\\'t particularly different from how literally \\\'\\\'everybody else\\\'\\\' did nothing to Cardin (on screen, of course).
** There is a large BrokenBase over Volume 2, Chapter 6 \\\"Burning the Candle\\\" regarding whether there is a case of BaitAndSwitchLesbians. (The crux of the argument is that Rooster Teeth said that Remnant is \\\"queer accepting\\\" and then at the dance, everyone quickly went into male/female pairings.) While this ignores how Blake and Yang actually danced on-screen together before Sun arrived, and nobody batted an eyelash, the background dancers lacked any male/male or female/female pairings who were explicitly together during the slow dances.
** The fact that Sun\\\'s remaining team members, Scarlet and Sage, don\\\'t show up in Volume 2 (save for one brief shot of them from very far away) despite appearing in the title opening and being hinted at during the hiatus, has left many fans very bitter.
** One complaint from Vol1 was a lack of characters with diverse ethnicity. Some argue that since RWBY is, or at least is based off, an anime, the tendency for white and asian characters to have similar skin tones shouldn\\\'t be surprising. Emerald\\\'s addition in Vol2 was happily accepted, but the tendency for the majority of background characters to be various shades of white is still criticized.
** [[PreciousPuppy Zwei]] is a mixed bag depending on who you ask. An instant hit with the fandom when he was first introduced, his further appearances have soured some fans into thinking Zwei was thrown in for comedic effect and/or fanservice. Most notably, in \\\"Breach,\\\" while other characters expended considerable effort and resources to defeat Grimm, Zwei manages to stop one simply by headbutting it.
** Whether Ozpin\\\'s decision on how to address the White Fang base at Mountain Glen[[note]] Namely, sending a single team of freshmen with one teacher as backup.[[/note]] was a good idea or not and how much blame he deserves for the subsequent breach is a hotly debated topic.
** While many fans readily enjoy what\\\'s been released for \\\'\\\'Grimm Eclipse\\\'\\\', many are upset that it just focuses on Team RWBY and relegates other teams (especially JNPR and CFVY) to just being possible DLC. However, since it\\\'s an early access game, it\\\'s likely other characters will come as a free update. According to WordOfGod from the games creators during the recent RWBY life stream they are in fact going to add a lot more additional content to the game, including new playable characters.
** Yang\\\'s winning streak. The only fight she\\\'s ever unquestionably lost was a CurbStompBattle against the older and more experienced Neo. Other than that, Yang has won all of her fights and even against opponents that require teamwork, Yang is almost always the key element to ensuring Team RWBY\\\'s victory. Is making Yang a total {{Badass}} who wins all of the time an interesting and satisfying [[SubvertedTrope subversion]] to the [[TheWorfEffect usual expectations]] by showing just how powerful [[TheBigGuy characters like her]] should be, or does Yang\\\'s badassery make her fights boring and predictable along with making the rest of Team RWBY, especially Ruby herself, look like incompetent wannabe\\\'s by comparison?
** Ruby\\\'s losing streak. With the exception of her initial fight in the beginning of the series, solo fights tend to go poorly for Ruby, especially if Ruby should be relieved of Crescent Rose for that particular encounter. It\\\'s either portraying Ruby as in over her head against more cunning foes, realistic given her training with a sniper-scythe rather than her fists, or a blatant usage of TheWorfEffect to bolster up the others.
** When it comes to the World of Remnant segments, there\\\'s usually two sides. The one side that loves the segments as they expand on the lore of RWBY and find them to be nice [[BreatherEpisode break]]. Others, however, find it to be [[{{Filler}} meaningless padding]] that would have worked better if it were put in exposition in the actual show, rather than be separated into a brief episode. There are others who find the segments being placed in the worst spot, usually when the story hits a high note. This becomes {{egregious}}[[note]][[DrinkingGame/TVTropesWiki drink]][[/note]] when the episode focuses on [[spoiler:the Maidens]], as some people are split on whether this as a nice episode, being [[SerialEscalation longer and even more animated than the other WoRs]], or if it was pointless considering that [[spoiler:Ozpin already talked about them in \\\"Fall\\\"]], right as the story hit [[spoiler:its DarkestHour]].
Changed line(s) 1 from:
n
to:
Removed to here to discuss what are genuine entries and what are just \\\"fandom is not 100% united in opinion\\\".
The move has been triggered by the last entry on the [=WoR=] segments which was added within an hour or so of the Maidens episode sponsor-only release. It\\\'s not possible to form a BrokenBase situation in such a short, and restricted, amount of time. While I know fans don\\\'t agree on whether the segments are good, bad or just \\\'meh\\\', I\\\'ve never seen anyone care enough to argue about differences in opinion either.
All the entries could use a review, however.
------------
* BrokenBase:
** [[strike:The voice acting is easily the most contentious aspect of the series so far. The question is whether you\\\'re basing your complaints on the voice \\\'\\\'pitches\\\'\\\' or the voice \\\'\\\'acting\\\'\\\'. In a remarkable transition, VocalEvolution has rendered much of the conversation obsolete. ]]
** Ruby\\\'s PerkyGoth voice at the end of the \\\'\\\'Yellow\\\'\\\' trailer led to mixed reactions as well. The high-pitched, somewhat childish tone \\\'\\\'does\\\'\\\' fit her, admittedly, given her short height, youthful appearance and [[https://twitter.com/montyoum/status/305239829455724544/photo/1 apparent]] [[https://twitter.com/montyoum/status/285515674648977408/photo/1 cheerfulness]]. However, it doesn\\\'t mean people particularly \\\'\\\'like\\\'\\\' it either. Part of the blame can be attributed to the fact that [[TheStoic the way she was presented]] [[TrailersAlwaysLie in the \\\'\\\'Red\\\'\\\' trailer suggested otherwise]]. Monty himself says that the \\\"Red\\\" trailer was more of a weapon resume than a character trailer; Ruby had no actual character in it. Of course, following episode 1, most people aren\\\'t complaining about it as much now due to VocalEvolution and her personality becoming better established.
** Weiss:
*** Her bitchy attitude during the first half of Season 1 caused some friction, especially from those who saw her trailer and pictured her as TheStoic lonely girl. Some like the extra fire (and the extra comedy that comes from her friction with other characters), but others dislike it on account of her being, well, a bitch when it isn\\\'t really needed. Finally seems to be lessening as of Episode 8.
*** Her FantasticRacism regarding Faunus is causing her to fall back into the bitchiness in some fan\\\'s eye. [[JerkJustifications Some believe she has]] [[FreudianExcuse her reasons]] (namely, [[TragicBigot being terrorized by a group of them]] that caused [[AbusiveParents problems with her father]]), but the debate is in whether it makes her in the right or not to judge an entire race based on the actions of a few of them. Does not help that her jerk tendency is [[ZigZaggedTrope zig-zagging]]. Her acceptance of Blake in Vol2 and her attempt to get Blake to communicate with her team in chapter 2 calmed this particular break.
** Volume 3 brought a much needed improvement to her personality from acknowledging Ruby as a friend to even sacrificing her spot in the tournament for Yang.
** Some people have a problem with Blake\\\'s behavior during \\\'The Stray\\\' and \\\'Black & White\\\', on account of them believing she throws an almost uncharacteristic temper tantrum at Weiss. Others defend her behavior, proclaiming that it was only natural for someone like Blake to \\\'\\\'eventually\\\'\\\' get fed up with Weiss\\\' (not entirely unjustified) FantasticRacism. Some feel that it was rather cold of her not to defend Velvet from Cardin (other than stare in silent contempt), while others say that her inaction isn\\\'t particularly different from how literally \\\'\\\'everybody else\\\'\\\' did nothing to Cardin (on screen, of course).
** There is a large BrokenBase over Volume 2, Chapter 6 \\\"Burning the Candle\\\" regarding whether there is a case of BaitAndSwitchLesbians. (The crux of the argument is that Rooster Teeth said that Remnant is \\\"queer accepting\\\" and then at the dance, everyone quickly went into male/female pairings.) While this ignores how Blake and Yang actually danced on-screen together before Sun arrived, and nobody batted an eyelash, the background dancers lacked any male/male or female/female pairings who were explicitly together during the slow dances.
** The fact that Sun\\\'s remaining team members, Scarlet and Sage, don\\\'t show up in Volume 2 (save for one brief shot of them from very far away) despite appearing in the title opening and being hinted at during the hiatus, has left many fans very bitter.
** One complaint from Vol1 was a lack of characters with diverse ethnicity. Some argue that since RWBY is, or at least is based off, an anime, the tendency for white and asian characters to have similar skin tones shouldn\\\'t be surprising. Emerald\\\'s addition in Vol2 was happily accepted, but the tendency for the majority of background characters to be various shades of white is still criticized.
** [[PreciousPuppy Zwei]] is a mixed bag depending on who you ask. An instant hit with the fandom when he was first introduced, his further appearances have soured some fans into thinking Zwei was thrown in for comedic effect and/or fanservice. Most notably, in \\\"Breach,\\\" while other characters expended considerable effort and resources to defeat Grimm, Zwei manages to stop one simply by headbutting it.
** Whether Ozpin\\\'s decision on how to address the White Fang base at Mountain Glen[[note]] Namely, sending a single team of freshmen with one teacher as backup.[[/note]] was a good idea or not and how much blame he deserves for the subsequent breach is a hotly debated topic.
** While many fans readily enjoy what\\\'s been released for \\\'\\\'Grimm Eclipse\\\'\\\', many are upset that it just focuses on Team RWBY and relegates other teams (especially JNPR and CFVY) to just being possible DLC. However, since it\\\'s an early access game, it\\\'s likely other characters will come as a free update. According to WordOfGod from the games creators during the recent RWBY life stream they are in fact going to add a lot more additional content to the game, including new playable characters.
** Yang\\\'s winning streak. The only fight she\\\'s ever unquestionably lost was a CurbStompBattle against the older and more experienced Neo. Other than that, Yang has won all of her fights and even against opponents that require teamwork, Yang is almost always the key element to ensuring Team RWBY\\\'s victory. Is making Yang a total {{Badass}} who wins all of the time an interesting and satisfying [[SubvertedTrope subversion]] to the [[TheWorfEffect usual expectations]] by showing just how powerful [[TheBigGuy characters like her]] should be, or does Yang\\\'s badassery make her fights boring and predictable along with making the rest of Team RWBY, especially Ruby herself, look like incompetent wannabe\\\'s by comparison?
** Ruby\\\'s losing streak. With the exception of her initial fight in the beginning of the series, solo fights tend to go poorly for Ruby, especially if Ruby should be relieved of Crescent Rose for that particular encounter. It\\\'s either portraying Ruby as in over her head against more cunning foes, realistic given her training with a sniper-scythe rather than her fists, or a blatant usage of TheWorfEffect to bolster up the others.
** When it comes to the World of Remnant segments, there\\\'s usually two sides. The one side that loves the segments as they expand on the lore of RWBY and find them to be nice [[BreatherEpisode break]]. Others, however, find it to be [[{{Filler}} meaningless padding]] that would have worked better if it were put in exposition in the actual show, rather than be separated into a brief episode. There are others who find the segments being placed in the worst spot, usually when the story hits a high note. This becomes {{egregious}}[[note]][[DrinkingGame/TVTropesWiki drink]][[/note]] when the episode focuses on [[spoiler:the Maidens]], as some people are split on whether this as a nice episode, being [[SerialEscalation longer and even more animated than the other WoRs]], or if it was pointless considering that [[spoiler:Ozpin already talked about them in \\\"Fall\\\"]], right as the story hit [[spoiler:its DarkestHour]].
The move has been triggered by the last entry on the [=WoR=] segments which was added within an hour or so of the Maidens episode sponsor-only release. It\\\'s not possible to form a BrokenBase situation in such a short, and restricted, amount of time. While I know fans don\\\'t agree on whether the segments are good, bad or just \\\'meh\\\', I\\\'ve never seen anyone care enough to argue about differences in opinion either.
All the entries could use a review, however.
------------
* BrokenBase:
** [[strike:The voice acting is easily the most contentious aspect of the series so far. The question is whether you\\\'re basing your complaints on the voice \\\'\\\'pitches\\\'\\\' or the voice \\\'\\\'acting\\\'\\\'. In a remarkable transition, VocalEvolution has rendered much of the conversation obsolete. ]]
** Ruby\\\'s PerkyGoth voice at the end of the \\\'\\\'Yellow\\\'\\\' trailer led to mixed reactions as well. The high-pitched, somewhat childish tone \\\'\\\'does\\\'\\\' fit her, admittedly, given her short height, youthful appearance and [[https://twitter.com/montyoum/status/305239829455724544/photo/1 apparent]] [[https://twitter.com/montyoum/status/285515674648977408/photo/1 cheerfulness]]. However, it doesn\\\'t mean people particularly \\\'\\\'like\\\'\\\' it either. Part of the blame can be attributed to the fact that [[TheStoic the way she was presented]] [[TrailersAlwaysLie in the \\\'\\\'Red\\\'\\\' trailer suggested otherwise]]. Monty himself says that the \\\"Red\\\" trailer was more of a weapon resume than a character trailer; Ruby had no actual character in it. Of course, following episode 1, most people aren\\\'t complaining about it as much now due to VocalEvolution and her personality becoming better established.
** Weiss:
*** Her bitchy attitude during the first half of Season 1 caused some friction, especially from those who saw her trailer and pictured her as TheStoic lonely girl. Some like the extra fire (and the extra comedy that comes from her friction with other characters), but others dislike it on account of her being, well, a bitch when it isn\\\'t really needed. Finally seems to be lessening as of Episode 8.
*** Her FantasticRacism regarding Faunus is causing her to fall back into the bitchiness in some fan\\\'s eye. [[JerkJustifications Some believe she has]] [[FreudianExcuse her reasons]] (namely, [[TragicBigot being terrorized by a group of them]] that caused [[AbusiveParents problems with her father]]), but the debate is in whether it makes her in the right or not to judge an entire race based on the actions of a few of them. Does not help that her jerk tendency is [[ZigZaggedTrope zig-zagging]]. Her acceptance of Blake in Vol2 and her attempt to get Blake to communicate with her team in chapter 2 calmed this particular break.
** Volume 3 brought a much needed improvement to her personality from acknowledging Ruby as a friend to even sacrificing her spot in the tournament for Yang.
** Some people have a problem with Blake\\\'s behavior during \\\'The Stray\\\' and \\\'Black & White\\\', on account of them believing she throws an almost uncharacteristic temper tantrum at Weiss. Others defend her behavior, proclaiming that it was only natural for someone like Blake to \\\'\\\'eventually\\\'\\\' get fed up with Weiss\\\' (not entirely unjustified) FantasticRacism. Some feel that it was rather cold of her not to defend Velvet from Cardin (other than stare in silent contempt), while others say that her inaction isn\\\'t particularly different from how literally \\\'\\\'everybody else\\\'\\\' did nothing to Cardin (on screen, of course).
** There is a large BrokenBase over Volume 2, Chapter 6 \\\"Burning the Candle\\\" regarding whether there is a case of BaitAndSwitchLesbians. (The crux of the argument is that Rooster Teeth said that Remnant is \\\"queer accepting\\\" and then at the dance, everyone quickly went into male/female pairings.) While this ignores how Blake and Yang actually danced on-screen together before Sun arrived, and nobody batted an eyelash, the background dancers lacked any male/male or female/female pairings who were explicitly together during the slow dances.
** The fact that Sun\\\'s remaining team members, Scarlet and Sage, don\\\'t show up in Volume 2 (save for one brief shot of them from very far away) despite appearing in the title opening and being hinted at during the hiatus, has left many fans very bitter.
** One complaint from Vol1 was a lack of characters with diverse ethnicity. Some argue that since RWBY is, or at least is based off, an anime, the tendency for white and asian characters to have similar skin tones shouldn\\\'t be surprising. Emerald\\\'s addition in Vol2 was happily accepted, but the tendency for the majority of background characters to be various shades of white is still criticized.
** [[PreciousPuppy Zwei]] is a mixed bag depending on who you ask. An instant hit with the fandom when he was first introduced, his further appearances have soured some fans into thinking Zwei was thrown in for comedic effect and/or fanservice. Most notably, in \\\"Breach,\\\" while other characters expended considerable effort and resources to defeat Grimm, Zwei manages to stop one simply by headbutting it.
** Whether Ozpin\\\'s decision on how to address the White Fang base at Mountain Glen[[note]] Namely, sending a single team of freshmen with one teacher as backup.[[/note]] was a good idea or not and how much blame he deserves for the subsequent breach is a hotly debated topic.
** While many fans readily enjoy what\\\'s been released for \\\'\\\'Grimm Eclipse\\\'\\\', many are upset that it just focuses on Team RWBY and relegates other teams (especially JNPR and CFVY) to just being possible DLC. However, since it\\\'s an early access game, it\\\'s likely other characters will come as a free update. According to WordOfGod from the games creators during the recent RWBY life stream they are in fact going to add a lot more additional content to the game, including new playable characters.
** Yang\\\'s winning streak. The only fight she\\\'s ever unquestionably lost was a CurbStompBattle against the older and more experienced Neo. Other than that, Yang has won all of her fights and even against opponents that require teamwork, Yang is almost always the key element to ensuring Team RWBY\\\'s victory. Is making Yang a total {{Badass}} who wins all of the time an interesting and satisfying [[SubvertedTrope subversion]] to the [[TheWorfEffect usual expectations]] by showing just how powerful [[TheBigGuy characters like her]] should be, or does Yang\\\'s badassery make her fights boring and predictable along with making the rest of Team RWBY, especially Ruby herself, look like incompetent wannabe\\\'s by comparison?
** Ruby\\\'s losing streak. With the exception of her initial fight in the beginning of the series, solo fights tend to go poorly for Ruby, especially if Ruby should be relieved of Crescent Rose for that particular encounter. It\\\'s either portraying Ruby as in over her head against more cunning foes, realistic given her training with a sniper-scythe rather than her fists, or a blatant usage of TheWorfEffect to bolster up the others.
** When it comes to the World of Remnant segments, there\\\'s usually two sides. The one side that loves the segments as they expand on the lore of RWBY and find them to be nice [[BreatherEpisode break]]. Others, however, find it to be [[{{Filler}} meaningless padding]] that would have worked better if it were put in exposition in the actual show, rather than be separated into a brief episode. There are others who find the segments being placed in the worst spot, usually when the story hits a high note. This becomes {{egregious}}[[note]][[DrinkingGame/TVTropesWiki drink]][[/note]] when the episode focuses on [[spoiler:the Maidens]], as some people are split on whether this as a nice episode, being [[SerialEscalation longer and even more animated than the other WoRs]], or if it was pointless considering that [[spoiler:Ozpin already talked about them in \\\"Fall\\\"]], right as the story hit [[spoiler:its DarkestHour]].
Changed line(s) 1 from:
n
to:
Removed to here to discuss what are genuine entries and what are just \\\"fandom is not 100% united in opinion\\\".
The move has been triggered by the last entry on the [=WoR=] segments which was added within an hour or so of the Maidens episode sponsor-only release. It\\\'s not possible to form a BrokenBase situation in such a short, and restricted, amount of time. While I know fans don\\\'t agree on whether the segments are good, bad or just \\\'meh\\\', I\\\'ve never seen anyone care enough to argue about differences in opinion either.
All the entries could use a review, however.
------------
* BrokenBase:
** The voice acting is easily the most contentious aspect of the series so far. The question is whether you\\\'re basing your complaints on the voice \\\'\\\'pitches\\\'\\\' or the voice \\\'\\\'acting\\\'\\\'. In a remarkable transition, VocalEvolution has rendered much of the conversation obsolete.
** Ruby\\\'s PerkyGoth voice at the end of the \\\'\\\'Yellow\\\'\\\' trailer led to mixed reactions as well. The high-pitched, somewhat childish tone \\\'\\\'does\\\'\\\' fit her, admittedly, given her short height, youthful appearance and [[https://twitter.com/montyoum/status/305239829455724544/photo/1 apparent]] [[https://twitter.com/montyoum/status/285515674648977408/photo/1 cheerfulness]]. However, it doesn\\\'t mean people particularly \\\'\\\'like\\\'\\\' it either. Part of the blame can be attributed to the fact that [[TheStoic the way she was presented]] [[TrailersAlwaysLie in the \\\'\\\'Red\\\'\\\' trailer suggested otherwise]]. Monty himself says that the \\\"Red\\\" trailer was more of a weapon resume than a character trailer; Ruby had no actual character in it. Of course, following episode 1, most people aren\\\'t complaining about it as much now due to VocalEvolution and her personality becoming better established.
** Weiss:
*** Her bitchy attitude during the first half of Season 1 caused some friction, especially from those who saw her trailer and pictured her as TheStoic lonely girl. Some like the extra fire (and the extra comedy that comes from her friction with other characters), but others dislike it on account of her being, well, a bitch when it isn\\\'t really needed. Finally seems to be lessening as of Episode 8.
*** Her FantasticRacism regarding Faunus is causing her to fall back into the bitchiness in some fan\\\'s eye. [[JerkJustifications Some believe she has]] [[FreudianExcuse her reasons]] (namely, [[TragicBigot being terrorized by a group of them]] that caused [[AbusiveParents problems with her father]]), but the debate is in whether it makes her in the right or not to judge an entire race based on the actions of a few of them. Does not help that her jerk tendency is [[ZigZaggedTrope zig-zagging]]. Her acceptance of Blake in Vol2 and her attempt to get Blake to communicate with her team in chapter 2 calmed this particular break.
** Volume 3 brought a much needed improvement to her personality from acknowledging Ruby as a friend to even sacrificing her spot in the tournament for Yang.
** Some people have a problem with Blake\\\'s behavior during \\\'The Stray\\\' and \\\'Black & White\\\', on account of them believing she throws an almost uncharacteristic temper tantrum at Weiss. Others defend her behavior, proclaiming that it was only natural for someone like Blake to \\\'\\\'eventually\\\'\\\' get fed up with Weiss\\\' (not entirely unjustified) FantasticRacism. Some feel that it was rather cold of her not to defend Velvet from Cardin (other than stare in silent contempt), while others say that her inaction isn\\\'t particularly different from how literally \\\'\\\'everybody else\\\'\\\' did nothing to Cardin (on screen, of course).
** There is a large BrokenBase over Volume 2, Chapter 6 \\\"Burning the Candle\\\" regarding whether there is a case of BaitAndSwitchLesbians. (The crux of the argument is that Rooster Teeth said that Remnant is \\\"queer accepting\\\" and then at the dance, everyone quickly went into male/female pairings.) While this ignores how Blake and Yang actually danced on-screen together before Sun arrived, and nobody batted an eyelash, the background dancers lacked any male/male or female/female pairings who were explicitly together during the slow dances.
** The fact that Sun\\\'s remaining team members, Scarlet and Sage, don\\\'t show up in Volume 2 (save for one brief shot of them from very far away) despite appearing in the title opening and being hinted at during the hiatus, has left many fans very bitter.
** One complaint from Vol1 was a lack of characters with diverse ethnicity. Some argue that since RWBY is, or at least is based off, an anime, the tendency for white and asian characters to have similar skin tones shouldn\\\'t be surprising. Emerald\\\'s addition in Vol2 was happily accepted, but the tendency for the majority of background characters to be various shades of white is still criticized.
** [[PreciousPuppy Zwei]] is a mixed bag depending on who you ask. An instant hit with the fandom when he was first introduced, his further appearances have soured some fans into thinking Zwei was thrown in for comedic effect and/or fanservice. Most notably, in \\\"Breach,\\\" while other characters expended considerable effort and resources to defeat Grimm, Zwei manages to stop one simply by headbutting it.
** Whether Ozpin\\\'s decision on how to address the White Fang base at Mountain Glen[[note]] Namely, sending a single team of freshmen with one teacher as backup.[[/note]] was a good idea or not and how much blame he deserves for the subsequent breach is a hotly debated topic.
** While many fans readily enjoy what\\\'s been released for \\\'\\\'Grimm Eclipse\\\'\\\', many are upset that it just focuses on Team RWBY and relegates other teams (especially JNPR and CFVY) to just being possible DLC. However, since it\\\'s an early access game, it\\\'s likely other characters will come as a free update. According to WordOfGod from the games creators during the recent RWBY life stream they are in fact going to add a lot more additional content to the game, including new playable characters.
** Yang\\\'s winning streak. The only fight she\\\'s ever unquestionably lost was a CurbStompBattle against the older and more experienced Neo. Other than that, Yang has won all of her fights and even against opponents that require teamwork, Yang is almost always the key element to ensuring Team RWBY\\\'s victory. Is making Yang a total {{Badass}} who wins all of the time an interesting and satisfying [[SubvertedTrope subversion]] to the [[TheWorfEffect usual expectations]] by showing just how powerful [[TheBigGuy characters like her]] should be, or does Yang\\\'s badassery make her fights boring and predictable along with making the rest of Team RWBY, especially Ruby herself, look like incompetent wannabe\\\'s by comparison?
** Ruby\\\'s losing streak. With the exception of her initial fight in the beginning of the series, solo fights tend to go poorly for Ruby, especially if Ruby should be relieved of Crescent Rose for that particular encounter. It\\\'s either portraying Ruby as in over her head against more cunning foes, realistic given her training with a sniper-scythe rather than her fists, or a blatant usage of TheWorfEffect to bolster up the others.
** When it comes to the World of Remnant segments, there\\\'s usually two sides. The one side that loves the segments as they expand on the lore of RWBY and find them to be nice [[BreatherEpisode break]]. Others, however, find it to be [[{{Filler}} meaningless padding]] that would have worked better if it were put in exposition in the actual show, rather than be separated into a brief episode. There are others who find the segments being placed in the worst spot, usually when the story hits a high note. This becomes {{egregious}}[[note]][[DrinkingGame/TVTropesWiki drink]][[/note]] when the episode focuses on [[spoiler:the Maidens]], as some people are split on whether this as a nice episode, being [[SerialEscalation longer and even more animated than the other WoRs]], or if it was pointless considering that [[spoiler:Ozpin already talked about them in \\\"Fall\\\"]], right as the story hit [[spoiler:its DarkestHour]].
The move has been triggered by the last entry on the [=WoR=] segments which was added within an hour or so of the Maidens episode sponsor-only release. It\\\'s not possible to form a BrokenBase situation in such a short, and restricted, amount of time. While I know fans don\\\'t agree on whether the segments are good, bad or just \\\'meh\\\', I\\\'ve never seen anyone care enough to argue about differences in opinion either.
All the entries could use a review, however.
------------
* BrokenBase:
** The voice acting is easily the most contentious aspect of the series so far. The question is whether you\\\'re basing your complaints on the voice \\\'\\\'pitches\\\'\\\' or the voice \\\'\\\'acting\\\'\\\'. In a remarkable transition, VocalEvolution has rendered much of the conversation obsolete.
** Ruby\\\'s PerkyGoth voice at the end of the \\\'\\\'Yellow\\\'\\\' trailer led to mixed reactions as well. The high-pitched, somewhat childish tone \\\'\\\'does\\\'\\\' fit her, admittedly, given her short height, youthful appearance and [[https://twitter.com/montyoum/status/305239829455724544/photo/1 apparent]] [[https://twitter.com/montyoum/status/285515674648977408/photo/1 cheerfulness]]. However, it doesn\\\'t mean people particularly \\\'\\\'like\\\'\\\' it either. Part of the blame can be attributed to the fact that [[TheStoic the way she was presented]] [[TrailersAlwaysLie in the \\\'\\\'Red\\\'\\\' trailer suggested otherwise]]. Monty himself says that the \\\"Red\\\" trailer was more of a weapon resume than a character trailer; Ruby had no actual character in it. Of course, following episode 1, most people aren\\\'t complaining about it as much now due to VocalEvolution and her personality becoming better established.
** Weiss:
*** Her bitchy attitude during the first half of Season 1 caused some friction, especially from those who saw her trailer and pictured her as TheStoic lonely girl. Some like the extra fire (and the extra comedy that comes from her friction with other characters), but others dislike it on account of her being, well, a bitch when it isn\\\'t really needed. Finally seems to be lessening as of Episode 8.
*** Her FantasticRacism regarding Faunus is causing her to fall back into the bitchiness in some fan\\\'s eye. [[JerkJustifications Some believe she has]] [[FreudianExcuse her reasons]] (namely, [[TragicBigot being terrorized by a group of them]] that caused [[AbusiveParents problems with her father]]), but the debate is in whether it makes her in the right or not to judge an entire race based on the actions of a few of them. Does not help that her jerk tendency is [[ZigZaggedTrope zig-zagging]]. Her acceptance of Blake in Vol2 and her attempt to get Blake to communicate with her team in chapter 2 calmed this particular break.
** Volume 3 brought a much needed improvement to her personality from acknowledging Ruby as a friend to even sacrificing her spot in the tournament for Yang.
** Some people have a problem with Blake\\\'s behavior during \\\'The Stray\\\' and \\\'Black & White\\\', on account of them believing she throws an almost uncharacteristic temper tantrum at Weiss. Others defend her behavior, proclaiming that it was only natural for someone like Blake to \\\'\\\'eventually\\\'\\\' get fed up with Weiss\\\' (not entirely unjustified) FantasticRacism. Some feel that it was rather cold of her not to defend Velvet from Cardin (other than stare in silent contempt), while others say that her inaction isn\\\'t particularly different from how literally \\\'\\\'everybody else\\\'\\\' did nothing to Cardin (on screen, of course).
** There is a large BrokenBase over Volume 2, Chapter 6 \\\"Burning the Candle\\\" regarding whether there is a case of BaitAndSwitchLesbians. (The crux of the argument is that Rooster Teeth said that Remnant is \\\"queer accepting\\\" and then at the dance, everyone quickly went into male/female pairings.) While this ignores how Blake and Yang actually danced on-screen together before Sun arrived, and nobody batted an eyelash, the background dancers lacked any male/male or female/female pairings who were explicitly together during the slow dances.
** The fact that Sun\\\'s remaining team members, Scarlet and Sage, don\\\'t show up in Volume 2 (save for one brief shot of them from very far away) despite appearing in the title opening and being hinted at during the hiatus, has left many fans very bitter.
** One complaint from Vol1 was a lack of characters with diverse ethnicity. Some argue that since RWBY is, or at least is based off, an anime, the tendency for white and asian characters to have similar skin tones shouldn\\\'t be surprising. Emerald\\\'s addition in Vol2 was happily accepted, but the tendency for the majority of background characters to be various shades of white is still criticized.
** [[PreciousPuppy Zwei]] is a mixed bag depending on who you ask. An instant hit with the fandom when he was first introduced, his further appearances have soured some fans into thinking Zwei was thrown in for comedic effect and/or fanservice. Most notably, in \\\"Breach,\\\" while other characters expended considerable effort and resources to defeat Grimm, Zwei manages to stop one simply by headbutting it.
** Whether Ozpin\\\'s decision on how to address the White Fang base at Mountain Glen[[note]] Namely, sending a single team of freshmen with one teacher as backup.[[/note]] was a good idea or not and how much blame he deserves for the subsequent breach is a hotly debated topic.
** While many fans readily enjoy what\\\'s been released for \\\'\\\'Grimm Eclipse\\\'\\\', many are upset that it just focuses on Team RWBY and relegates other teams (especially JNPR and CFVY) to just being possible DLC. However, since it\\\'s an early access game, it\\\'s likely other characters will come as a free update. According to WordOfGod from the games creators during the recent RWBY life stream they are in fact going to add a lot more additional content to the game, including new playable characters.
** Yang\\\'s winning streak. The only fight she\\\'s ever unquestionably lost was a CurbStompBattle against the older and more experienced Neo. Other than that, Yang has won all of her fights and even against opponents that require teamwork, Yang is almost always the key element to ensuring Team RWBY\\\'s victory. Is making Yang a total {{Badass}} who wins all of the time an interesting and satisfying [[SubvertedTrope subversion]] to the [[TheWorfEffect usual expectations]] by showing just how powerful [[TheBigGuy characters like her]] should be, or does Yang\\\'s badassery make her fights boring and predictable along with making the rest of Team RWBY, especially Ruby herself, look like incompetent wannabe\\\'s by comparison?
** Ruby\\\'s losing streak. With the exception of her initial fight in the beginning of the series, solo fights tend to go poorly for Ruby, especially if Ruby should be relieved of Crescent Rose for that particular encounter. It\\\'s either portraying Ruby as in over her head against more cunning foes, realistic given her training with a sniper-scythe rather than her fists, or a blatant usage of TheWorfEffect to bolster up the others.
** When it comes to the World of Remnant segments, there\\\'s usually two sides. The one side that loves the segments as they expand on the lore of RWBY and find them to be nice [[BreatherEpisode break]]. Others, however, find it to be [[{{Filler}} meaningless padding]] that would have worked better if it were put in exposition in the actual show, rather than be separated into a brief episode. There are others who find the segments being placed in the worst spot, usually when the story hits a high note. This becomes {{egregious}}[[note]][[DrinkingGame/TVTropesWiki drink]][[/note]] when the episode focuses on [[spoiler:the Maidens]], as some people are split on whether this as a nice episode, being [[SerialEscalation longer and even more animated than the other WoRs]], or if it was pointless considering that [[spoiler:Ozpin already talked about them in \\\"Fall\\\"]], right as the story hit [[spoiler:its DarkestHour]].
Changed line(s) 1 from:
n
to:
Removed to here to discuss what are genuine entries and what are just \\\"fandom is not 100% united in opinion\\\".
The move has been triggered by the last entry on the [=WoR=] segments which was added within an hour or so of the Maidens episode sponsor-only release. It\\\'s not possible to form a BrokenBase situation in such a short, and restricted, amount of time.
All the entries could use a review, however.
------------
* BrokenBase:
** The voice acting is easily the most contentious aspect of the series so far. The question is whether you\\\'re basing your complaints on the voice \\\'\\\'pitches\\\'\\\' or the voice \\\'\\\'acting\\\'\\\'. In a remarkable transition, VocalEvolution has rendered much of the conversation obsolete.
** Ruby\\\'s PerkyGoth voice at the end of the \\\'\\\'Yellow\\\'\\\' trailer led to mixed reactions as well. The high-pitched, somewhat childish tone \\\'\\\'does\\\'\\\' fit her, admittedly, given her short height, youthful appearance and [[https://twitter.com/montyoum/status/305239829455724544/photo/1 apparent]] [[https://twitter.com/montyoum/status/285515674648977408/photo/1 cheerfulness]]. However, it doesn\\\'t mean people particularly \\\'\\\'like\\\'\\\' it either. Part of the blame can be attributed to the fact that [[TheStoic the way she was presented]] [[TrailersAlwaysLie in the \\\'\\\'Red\\\'\\\' trailer suggested otherwise]]. Monty himself says that the \\\"Red\\\" trailer was more of a weapon resume than a character trailer; Ruby had no actual character in it. Of course, following episode 1, most people aren\\\'t complaining about it as much now due to VocalEvolution and her personality becoming better established.
** Weiss:
*** Her bitchy attitude during the first half of Season 1 caused some friction, especially from those who saw her trailer and pictured her as TheStoic lonely girl. Some like the extra fire (and the extra comedy that comes from her friction with other characters), but others dislike it on account of her being, well, a bitch when it isn\\\'t really needed. Finally seems to be lessening as of Episode 8.
*** Her FantasticRacism regarding Faunus is causing her to fall back into the bitchiness in some fan\\\'s eye. [[JerkJustifications Some believe she has]] [[FreudianExcuse her reasons]] (namely, [[TragicBigot being terrorized by a group of them]] that caused [[AbusiveParents problems with her father]]), but the debate is in whether it makes her in the right or not to judge an entire race based on the actions of a few of them. Does not help that her jerk tendency is [[ZigZaggedTrope zig-zagging]]. Her acceptance of Blake in Vol2 and her attempt to get Blake to communicate with her team in chapter 2 calmed this particular break.
** Volume 3 brought a much needed improvement to her personality from acknowledging Ruby as a friend to even sacrificing her spot in the tournament for Yang.
** Some people have a problem with Blake\\\'s behavior during \\\'The Stray\\\' and \\\'Black & White\\\', on account of them believing she throws an almost uncharacteristic temper tantrum at Weiss. Others defend her behavior, proclaiming that it was only natural for someone like Blake to \\\'\\\'eventually\\\'\\\' get fed up with Weiss\\\' (not entirely unjustified) FantasticRacism. Some feel that it was rather cold of her not to defend Velvet from Cardin (other than stare in silent contempt), while others say that her inaction isn\\\'t particularly different from how literally \\\'\\\'everybody else\\\'\\\' did nothing to Cardin (on screen, of course).
** There is a large BrokenBase over Volume 2, Chapter 6 \\\"Burning the Candle\\\" regarding whether there is a case of BaitAndSwitchLesbians. (The crux of the argument is that Rooster Teeth said that Remnant is \\\"queer accepting\\\" and then at the dance, everyone quickly went into male/female pairings.) While this ignores how Blake and Yang actually danced on-screen together before Sun arrived, and nobody batted an eyelash, the background dancers lacked any male/male or female/female pairings who were explicitly together during the slow dances.
** The fact that Sun\\\'s remaining team members, Scarlet and Sage, don\\\'t show up in Volume 2 (save for one brief shot of them from very far away) despite appearing in the title opening and being hinted at during the hiatus, has left many fans very bitter.
** One complaint from Vol1 was a lack of characters with diverse ethnicity. Some argue that since RWBY is, or at least is based off, an anime, the tendency for white and asian characters to have similar skin tones shouldn\\\'t be surprising. Emerald\\\'s addition in Vol2 was happily accepted, but the tendency for the majority of background characters to be various shades of white is still criticized.
** [[PreciousPuppy Zwei]] is a mixed bag depending on who you ask. An instant hit with the fandom when he was first introduced, his further appearances have soured some fans into thinking Zwei was thrown in for comedic effect and/or fanservice. Most notably, in \\\"Breach,\\\" while other characters expended considerable effort and resources to defeat Grimm, Zwei manages to stop one simply by headbutting it.
** Whether Ozpin\\\'s decision on how to address the White Fang base at Mountain Glen[[note]] Namely, sending a single team of freshmen with one teacher as backup.[[/note]] was a good idea or not and how much blame he deserves for the subsequent breach is a hotly debated topic.
** While many fans readily enjoy what\\\'s been released for \\\'\\\'Grimm Eclipse\\\'\\\', many are upset that it just focuses on Team RWBY and relegates other teams (especially JNPR and CFVY) to just being possible DLC. However, since it\\\'s an early access game, it\\\'s likely other characters will come as a free update. According to WordOfGod from the games creators during the recent RWBY life stream they are in fact going to add a lot more additional content to the game, including new playable characters.
** Yang\\\'s winning streak. The only fight she\\\'s ever unquestionably lost was a CurbStompBattle against the older and more experienced Neo. Other than that, Yang has won all of her fights and even against opponents that require teamwork, Yang is almost always the key element to ensuring Team RWBY\\\'s victory. Is making Yang a total {{Badass}} who wins all of the time an interesting and satisfying [[SubvertedTrope subversion]] to the [[TheWorfEffect usual expectations]] by showing just how powerful [[TheBigGuy characters like her]] should be, or does Yang\\\'s badassery make her fights boring and predictable along with making the rest of Team RWBY, especially Ruby herself, look like incompetent wannabe\\\'s by comparison?
** Ruby\\\'s losing streak. With the exception of her initial fight in the beginning of the series, solo fights tend to go poorly for Ruby, especially if Ruby should be relieved of Crescent Rose for that particular encounter. It\\\'s either portraying Ruby as in over her head against more cunning foes, realistic given her training with a sniper-scythe rather than her fists, or a blatant usage of TheWorfEffect to bolster up the others.
** When it comes to the World of Remnant segments, there\\\'s usually two sides. The one side that loves the segments as they expand on the lore of RWBY and find them to be nice [[BreatherEpisode break]]. Others, however, find it to be [[{{Filler}} meaningless padding]] that would have worked better if it were put in exposition in the actual show, rather than be separated into a brief episode. There are others who find the segments being placed in the worst spot, usually when the story hits a high note. This becomes {{egregious}}[[note]][[DrinkingGame/TVTropesWiki drink]][[/note]] when the episode focuses on [[spoiler:the Maidens]], as some people are split on whether this as a nice episode, being [[SerialEscalation longer and even more animated than the other WoRs]], or if it was pointless considering that [[spoiler:Ozpin already talked about them in \\\"Fall\\\"]], right as the story hit [[spoiler:its DarkestHour]].
The move has been triggered by the last entry on the [=WoR=] segments which was added within an hour or so of the Maidens episode sponsor-only release. It\\\'s not possible to form a BrokenBase situation in such a short, and restricted, amount of time.
All the entries could use a review, however.
------------
* BrokenBase:
** The voice acting is easily the most contentious aspect of the series so far. The question is whether you\\\'re basing your complaints on the voice \\\'\\\'pitches\\\'\\\' or the voice \\\'\\\'acting\\\'\\\'. In a remarkable transition, VocalEvolution has rendered much of the conversation obsolete.
** Ruby\\\'s PerkyGoth voice at the end of the \\\'\\\'Yellow\\\'\\\' trailer led to mixed reactions as well. The high-pitched, somewhat childish tone \\\'\\\'does\\\'\\\' fit her, admittedly, given her short height, youthful appearance and [[https://twitter.com/montyoum/status/305239829455724544/photo/1 apparent]] [[https://twitter.com/montyoum/status/285515674648977408/photo/1 cheerfulness]]. However, it doesn\\\'t mean people particularly \\\'\\\'like\\\'\\\' it either. Part of the blame can be attributed to the fact that [[TheStoic the way she was presented]] [[TrailersAlwaysLie in the \\\'\\\'Red\\\'\\\' trailer suggested otherwise]]. Monty himself says that the \\\"Red\\\" trailer was more of a weapon resume than a character trailer; Ruby had no actual character in it. Of course, following episode 1, most people aren\\\'t complaining about it as much now due to VocalEvolution and her personality becoming better established.
** Weiss:
*** Her bitchy attitude during the first half of Season 1 caused some friction, especially from those who saw her trailer and pictured her as TheStoic lonely girl. Some like the extra fire (and the extra comedy that comes from her friction with other characters), but others dislike it on account of her being, well, a bitch when it isn\\\'t really needed. Finally seems to be lessening as of Episode 8.
*** Her FantasticRacism regarding Faunus is causing her to fall back into the bitchiness in some fan\\\'s eye. [[JerkJustifications Some believe she has]] [[FreudianExcuse her reasons]] (namely, [[TragicBigot being terrorized by a group of them]] that caused [[AbusiveParents problems with her father]]), but the debate is in whether it makes her in the right or not to judge an entire race based on the actions of a few of them. Does not help that her jerk tendency is [[ZigZaggedTrope zig-zagging]]. Her acceptance of Blake in Vol2 and her attempt to get Blake to communicate with her team in chapter 2 calmed this particular break.
** Volume 3 brought a much needed improvement to her personality from acknowledging Ruby as a friend to even sacrificing her spot in the tournament for Yang.
** Some people have a problem with Blake\\\'s behavior during \\\'The Stray\\\' and \\\'Black & White\\\', on account of them believing she throws an almost uncharacteristic temper tantrum at Weiss. Others defend her behavior, proclaiming that it was only natural for someone like Blake to \\\'\\\'eventually\\\'\\\' get fed up with Weiss\\\' (not entirely unjustified) FantasticRacism. Some feel that it was rather cold of her not to defend Velvet from Cardin (other than stare in silent contempt), while others say that her inaction isn\\\'t particularly different from how literally \\\'\\\'everybody else\\\'\\\' did nothing to Cardin (on screen, of course).
** There is a large BrokenBase over Volume 2, Chapter 6 \\\"Burning the Candle\\\" regarding whether there is a case of BaitAndSwitchLesbians. (The crux of the argument is that Rooster Teeth said that Remnant is \\\"queer accepting\\\" and then at the dance, everyone quickly went into male/female pairings.) While this ignores how Blake and Yang actually danced on-screen together before Sun arrived, and nobody batted an eyelash, the background dancers lacked any male/male or female/female pairings who were explicitly together during the slow dances.
** The fact that Sun\\\'s remaining team members, Scarlet and Sage, don\\\'t show up in Volume 2 (save for one brief shot of them from very far away) despite appearing in the title opening and being hinted at during the hiatus, has left many fans very bitter.
** One complaint from Vol1 was a lack of characters with diverse ethnicity. Some argue that since RWBY is, or at least is based off, an anime, the tendency for white and asian characters to have similar skin tones shouldn\\\'t be surprising. Emerald\\\'s addition in Vol2 was happily accepted, but the tendency for the majority of background characters to be various shades of white is still criticized.
** [[PreciousPuppy Zwei]] is a mixed bag depending on who you ask. An instant hit with the fandom when he was first introduced, his further appearances have soured some fans into thinking Zwei was thrown in for comedic effect and/or fanservice. Most notably, in \\\"Breach,\\\" while other characters expended considerable effort and resources to defeat Grimm, Zwei manages to stop one simply by headbutting it.
** Whether Ozpin\\\'s decision on how to address the White Fang base at Mountain Glen[[note]] Namely, sending a single team of freshmen with one teacher as backup.[[/note]] was a good idea or not and how much blame he deserves for the subsequent breach is a hotly debated topic.
** While many fans readily enjoy what\\\'s been released for \\\'\\\'Grimm Eclipse\\\'\\\', many are upset that it just focuses on Team RWBY and relegates other teams (especially JNPR and CFVY) to just being possible DLC. However, since it\\\'s an early access game, it\\\'s likely other characters will come as a free update. According to WordOfGod from the games creators during the recent RWBY life stream they are in fact going to add a lot more additional content to the game, including new playable characters.
** Yang\\\'s winning streak. The only fight she\\\'s ever unquestionably lost was a CurbStompBattle against the older and more experienced Neo. Other than that, Yang has won all of her fights and even against opponents that require teamwork, Yang is almost always the key element to ensuring Team RWBY\\\'s victory. Is making Yang a total {{Badass}} who wins all of the time an interesting and satisfying [[SubvertedTrope subversion]] to the [[TheWorfEffect usual expectations]] by showing just how powerful [[TheBigGuy characters like her]] should be, or does Yang\\\'s badassery make her fights boring and predictable along with making the rest of Team RWBY, especially Ruby herself, look like incompetent wannabe\\\'s by comparison?
** Ruby\\\'s losing streak. With the exception of her initial fight in the beginning of the series, solo fights tend to go poorly for Ruby, especially if Ruby should be relieved of Crescent Rose for that particular encounter. It\\\'s either portraying Ruby as in over her head against more cunning foes, realistic given her training with a sniper-scythe rather than her fists, or a blatant usage of TheWorfEffect to bolster up the others.
** When it comes to the World of Remnant segments, there\\\'s usually two sides. The one side that loves the segments as they expand on the lore of RWBY and find them to be nice [[BreatherEpisode break]]. Others, however, find it to be [[{{Filler}} meaningless padding]] that would have worked better if it were put in exposition in the actual show, rather than be separated into a brief episode. There are others who find the segments being placed in the worst spot, usually when the story hits a high note. This becomes {{egregious}}[[note]][[DrinkingGame/TVTropesWiki drink]][[/note]] when the episode focuses on [[spoiler:the Maidens]], as some people are split on whether this as a nice episode, being [[SerialEscalation longer and even more animated than the other WoRs]], or if it was pointless considering that [[spoiler:Ozpin already talked about them in \\\"Fall\\\"]], right as the story hit [[spoiler:its DarkestHour]].
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Removed to here to discuss what are genuine entries and what are just \\\"fandom is not 100% united in opinion\\\".
The move has been triggered by the last entry on the [=WoR=] segments which was added within an hour or so of the Maidens episode \\\'\\\'\\\'sponsor-only\\\'\\\'\\\' release. It\\\'s not possible to form a BrokenBase situation in such a short, and restricted, amount of time.
All the entries could use a review, however.
------------
* BrokenBase:
** The voice acting is easily the most contentious aspect of the series so far. The question is whether you\\\'re basing your complaints on the voice \\\'\\\'pitches\\\'\\\' or the voice \\\'\\\'acting\\\'\\\'. In a remarkable transition, VocalEvolution has rendered much of the conversation obsolete.
** Ruby\\\'s PerkyGoth voice at the end of the \\\'\\\'Yellow\\\'\\\' trailer led to mixed reactions as well. The high-pitched, somewhat childish tone \\\'\\\'does\\\'\\\' fit her, admittedly, given her short height, youthful appearance and [[https://twitter.com/montyoum/status/305239829455724544/photo/1 apparent]] [[https://twitter.com/montyoum/status/285515674648977408/photo/1 cheerfulness]]. However, it doesn\\\'t mean people particularly \\\'\\\'like\\\'\\\' it either. Part of the blame can be attributed to the fact that [[TheStoic the way she was presented]] [[TrailersAlwaysLie in the \\\'\\\'Red\\\'\\\' trailer suggested otherwise]]. Monty himself says that the \\\"Red\\\" trailer was more of a weapon resume than a character trailer; Ruby had no actual character in it. Of course, following episode 1, most people aren\\\'t complaining about it as much now due to VocalEvolution and her personality becoming better established.
** Weiss:
*** Her bitchy attitude during the first half of Season 1 caused some friction, especially from those who saw her trailer and pictured her as TheStoic lonely girl. Some like the extra fire (and the extra comedy that comes from her friction with other characters), but others dislike it on account of her being, well, a bitch when it isn\\\'t really needed. Finally seems to be lessening as of Episode 8.
*** Her FantasticRacism regarding Faunus is causing her to fall back into the bitchiness in some fan\\\'s eye. [[JerkJustifications Some believe she has]] [[FreudianExcuse her reasons]] (namely, [[TragicBigot being terrorized by a group of them]] that caused [[AbusiveParents problems with her father]]), but the debate is in whether it makes her in the right or not to judge an entire race based on the actions of a few of them. Does not help that her jerk tendency is [[ZigZaggedTrope zig-zagging]]. Her acceptance of Blake in Vol2 and her attempt to get Blake to communicate with her team in chapter 2 calmed this particular break.
** Volume 3 brought a much needed improvement to her personality from acknowledging Ruby as a friend to even sacrificing her spot in the tournament for Yang.
** Some people have a problem with Blake\\\'s behavior during \\\'The Stray\\\' and \\\'Black & White\\\', on account of them believing she throws an almost uncharacteristic temper tantrum at Weiss. Others defend her behavior, proclaiming that it was only natural for someone like Blake to \\\'\\\'eventually\\\'\\\' get fed up with Weiss\\\' (not entirely unjustified) FantasticRacism. Some feel that it was rather cold of her not to defend Velvet from Cardin (other than stare in silent contempt), while others say that her inaction isn\\\'t particularly different from how literally \\\'\\\'everybody else\\\'\\\' did nothing to Cardin (on screen, of course).
** There is a large BrokenBase over Volume 2, Chapter 6 \\\"Burning the Candle\\\" regarding whether there is a case of BaitAndSwitchLesbians. (The crux of the argument is that Rooster Teeth said that Remnant is \\\"queer accepting\\\" and then at the dance, everyone quickly went into male/female pairings.) While this ignores how Blake and Yang actually danced on-screen together before Sun arrived, and nobody batted an eyelash, the background dancers lacked any male/male or female/female pairings who were explicitly together during the slow dances.
** The fact that Sun\\\'s remaining team members, Scarlet and Sage, don\\\'t show up in Volume 2 (save for one brief shot of them from very far away) despite appearing in the title opening and being hinted at during the hiatus, has left many fans very bitter.
** One complaint from Vol1 was a lack of characters with diverse ethnicity. Some argue that since RWBY is, or at least is based off, an anime, the tendency for white and asian characters to have similar skin tones shouldn\\\'t be surprising. Emerald\\\'s addition in Vol2 was happily accepted, but the tendency for the majority of background characters to be various shades of white is still criticized.
** [[PreciousPuppy Zwei]] is a mixed bag depending on who you ask. An instant hit with the fandom when he was first introduced, his further appearances have soured some fans into thinking Zwei was thrown in for comedic effect and/or fanservice. Most notably, in \\\"Breach,\\\" while other characters expended considerable effort and resources to defeat Grimm, Zwei manages to stop one simply by headbutting it.
** Whether Ozpin\\\'s decision on how to address the White Fang base at Mountain Glen[[note]] Namely, sending a single team of freshmen with one teacher as backup.[[/note]] was a good idea or not and how much blame he deserves for the subsequent breach is a hotly debated topic.
** While many fans readily enjoy what\\\'s been released for \\\'\\\'Grimm Eclipse\\\'\\\', many are upset that it just focuses on Team RWBY and relegates other teams (especially JNPR and CFVY) to just being possible DLC. However, since it\\\'s an early access game, it\\\'s likely other characters will come as a free update. According to WordOfGod from the games creators during the recent RWBY life stream they are in fact going to add a lot more additional content to the game, including new playable characters.
** Yang\\\'s winning streak. The only fight she\\\'s ever unquestionably lost was a CurbStompBattle against the older and more experienced Neo. Other than that, Yang has won all of her fights and even against opponents that require teamwork, Yang is almost always the key element to ensuring Team RWBY\\\'s victory. Is making Yang a total {{Badass}} who wins all of the time an interesting and satisfying [[SubvertedTrope subversion]] to the [[TheWorfEffect usual expectations]] by showing just how powerful [[TheBigGuy characters like her]] should be, or does Yang\\\'s badassery make her fights boring and predictable along with making the rest of Team RWBY, especially Ruby herself, look like incompetent wannabe\\\'s by comparison?
** Ruby\\\'s losing streak. With the exception of her initial fight in the beginning of the series, solo fights tend to go poorly for Ruby, especially if Ruby should be relieved of Crescent Rose for that particular encounter. It\\\'s either portraying Ruby as in over her head against more cunning foes, realistic given her training with a sniper-scythe rather than her fists, or a blatant usage of TheWorfEffect to bolster up the others.
** When it comes to the World of Remnant segments, there\\\'s usually two sides. The one side that loves the segments as they expand on the lore of RWBY and find them to be nice [[BreatherEpisode break]]. Others, however, find it to be [[{{Filler}} meaningless padding]] that would have worked better if it were put in exposition in the actual show, rather than be separated into a brief episode. There are others who find the segments being placed in the worst spot, usually when the story hits a high note. This becomes {{egregious}}[[note]][[DrinkingGame/TVTropesWiki drink]][[/note]] when the episode focuses on [[spoiler:the Maidens]], as some people are split on whether this as a nice episode, being [[SerialEscalation longer and even more animated than the other WoRs]], or if it was pointless considering that [[spoiler:Ozpin already talked about them in \\\"Fall\\\"]], right as the story hit [[spoiler:its DarkestHour]].
The move has been triggered by the last entry on the [=WoR=] segments which was added within an hour or so of the Maidens episode \\\'\\\'\\\'sponsor-only\\\'\\\'\\\' release. It\\\'s not possible to form a BrokenBase situation in such a short, and restricted, amount of time.
All the entries could use a review, however.
------------
* BrokenBase:
** The voice acting is easily the most contentious aspect of the series so far. The question is whether you\\\'re basing your complaints on the voice \\\'\\\'pitches\\\'\\\' or the voice \\\'\\\'acting\\\'\\\'. In a remarkable transition, VocalEvolution has rendered much of the conversation obsolete.
** Ruby\\\'s PerkyGoth voice at the end of the \\\'\\\'Yellow\\\'\\\' trailer led to mixed reactions as well. The high-pitched, somewhat childish tone \\\'\\\'does\\\'\\\' fit her, admittedly, given her short height, youthful appearance and [[https://twitter.com/montyoum/status/305239829455724544/photo/1 apparent]] [[https://twitter.com/montyoum/status/285515674648977408/photo/1 cheerfulness]]. However, it doesn\\\'t mean people particularly \\\'\\\'like\\\'\\\' it either. Part of the blame can be attributed to the fact that [[TheStoic the way she was presented]] [[TrailersAlwaysLie in the \\\'\\\'Red\\\'\\\' trailer suggested otherwise]]. Monty himself says that the \\\"Red\\\" trailer was more of a weapon resume than a character trailer; Ruby had no actual character in it. Of course, following episode 1, most people aren\\\'t complaining about it as much now due to VocalEvolution and her personality becoming better established.
** Weiss:
*** Her bitchy attitude during the first half of Season 1 caused some friction, especially from those who saw her trailer and pictured her as TheStoic lonely girl. Some like the extra fire (and the extra comedy that comes from her friction with other characters), but others dislike it on account of her being, well, a bitch when it isn\\\'t really needed. Finally seems to be lessening as of Episode 8.
*** Her FantasticRacism regarding Faunus is causing her to fall back into the bitchiness in some fan\\\'s eye. [[JerkJustifications Some believe she has]] [[FreudianExcuse her reasons]] (namely, [[TragicBigot being terrorized by a group of them]] that caused [[AbusiveParents problems with her father]]), but the debate is in whether it makes her in the right or not to judge an entire race based on the actions of a few of them. Does not help that her jerk tendency is [[ZigZaggedTrope zig-zagging]]. Her acceptance of Blake in Vol2 and her attempt to get Blake to communicate with her team in chapter 2 calmed this particular break.
** Volume 3 brought a much needed improvement to her personality from acknowledging Ruby as a friend to even sacrificing her spot in the tournament for Yang.
** Some people have a problem with Blake\\\'s behavior during \\\'The Stray\\\' and \\\'Black & White\\\', on account of them believing she throws an almost uncharacteristic temper tantrum at Weiss. Others defend her behavior, proclaiming that it was only natural for someone like Blake to \\\'\\\'eventually\\\'\\\' get fed up with Weiss\\\' (not entirely unjustified) FantasticRacism. Some feel that it was rather cold of her not to defend Velvet from Cardin (other than stare in silent contempt), while others say that her inaction isn\\\'t particularly different from how literally \\\'\\\'everybody else\\\'\\\' did nothing to Cardin (on screen, of course).
** There is a large BrokenBase over Volume 2, Chapter 6 \\\"Burning the Candle\\\" regarding whether there is a case of BaitAndSwitchLesbians. (The crux of the argument is that Rooster Teeth said that Remnant is \\\"queer accepting\\\" and then at the dance, everyone quickly went into male/female pairings.) While this ignores how Blake and Yang actually danced on-screen together before Sun arrived, and nobody batted an eyelash, the background dancers lacked any male/male or female/female pairings who were explicitly together during the slow dances.
** The fact that Sun\\\'s remaining team members, Scarlet and Sage, don\\\'t show up in Volume 2 (save for one brief shot of them from very far away) despite appearing in the title opening and being hinted at during the hiatus, has left many fans very bitter.
** One complaint from Vol1 was a lack of characters with diverse ethnicity. Some argue that since RWBY is, or at least is based off, an anime, the tendency for white and asian characters to have similar skin tones shouldn\\\'t be surprising. Emerald\\\'s addition in Vol2 was happily accepted, but the tendency for the majority of background characters to be various shades of white is still criticized.
** [[PreciousPuppy Zwei]] is a mixed bag depending on who you ask. An instant hit with the fandom when he was first introduced, his further appearances have soured some fans into thinking Zwei was thrown in for comedic effect and/or fanservice. Most notably, in \\\"Breach,\\\" while other characters expended considerable effort and resources to defeat Grimm, Zwei manages to stop one simply by headbutting it.
** Whether Ozpin\\\'s decision on how to address the White Fang base at Mountain Glen[[note]] Namely, sending a single team of freshmen with one teacher as backup.[[/note]] was a good idea or not and how much blame he deserves for the subsequent breach is a hotly debated topic.
** While many fans readily enjoy what\\\'s been released for \\\'\\\'Grimm Eclipse\\\'\\\', many are upset that it just focuses on Team RWBY and relegates other teams (especially JNPR and CFVY) to just being possible DLC. However, since it\\\'s an early access game, it\\\'s likely other characters will come as a free update. According to WordOfGod from the games creators during the recent RWBY life stream they are in fact going to add a lot more additional content to the game, including new playable characters.
** Yang\\\'s winning streak. The only fight she\\\'s ever unquestionably lost was a CurbStompBattle against the older and more experienced Neo. Other than that, Yang has won all of her fights and even against opponents that require teamwork, Yang is almost always the key element to ensuring Team RWBY\\\'s victory. Is making Yang a total {{Badass}} who wins all of the time an interesting and satisfying [[SubvertedTrope subversion]] to the [[TheWorfEffect usual expectations]] by showing just how powerful [[TheBigGuy characters like her]] should be, or does Yang\\\'s badassery make her fights boring and predictable along with making the rest of Team RWBY, especially Ruby herself, look like incompetent wannabe\\\'s by comparison?
** Ruby\\\'s losing streak. With the exception of her initial fight in the beginning of the series, solo fights tend to go poorly for Ruby, especially if Ruby should be relieved of Crescent Rose for that particular encounter. It\\\'s either portraying Ruby as in over her head against more cunning foes, realistic given her training with a sniper-scythe rather than her fists, or a blatant usage of TheWorfEffect to bolster up the others.
** When it comes to the World of Remnant segments, there\\\'s usually two sides. The one side that loves the segments as they expand on the lore of RWBY and find them to be nice [[BreatherEpisode break]]. Others, however, find it to be [[{{Filler}} meaningless padding]] that would have worked better if it were put in exposition in the actual show, rather than be separated into a brief episode. There are others who find the segments being placed in the worst spot, usually when the story hits a high note. This becomes {{egregious}}[[note]][[DrinkingGame/TVTropesWiki drink]][[/note]] when the episode focuses on [[spoiler:the Maidens]], as some people are split on whether this as a nice episode, being [[SerialEscalation longer and even more animated than the other WoRs]], or if it was pointless considering that [[spoiler:Ozpin already talked about them in \\\"Fall\\\"]], right as the story hit [[spoiler:its DarkestHour]].
