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There\\\'s been a little back-and-forth over some examples from \\\'\\\'WesternAnimation/TheBoondocks\\\'\\\', so I figured we should probably hash them out at length rather than trying to have a conversation in the edit history.
Going down the list:
* \\\'\\\'WesternAnimation/TheBoondocks\\\'\\\' uses the N-word very liberally. Most of the black characters, and a few white characters, say \\\"nigga\\\" frequently. The [=DuBois=] family are an exception though, never saying the word once.
This doesn\\\'t really give any information that wouldn\\\'t be better explained in the specific examples, so I deleted everything except the name of the series and added a colon.
** This show\\\'s N-Word Privileges go beyond just profanity. It often plays [[UncleTomfoolery offensive black stereotypes for humor]]; had it been created by a white guy, it probably would\\\'ve been derided as racist.
Deleted; it violates ExamplesAreNotArguable with the WeaselWord \\\"probably,\\\" veers into RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment territory, and is just generally NotAnExample since, as far as I know, the creators of The Boondocks have never held that their use of the word is okay while other people should not be able to say it.
** In \\\"The Garden Party\\\", Robert tells Huey and Riley that they shouldn\\\'t use the N-word, even though Huey points out that [[HypocriticalHumor Robert says it all the time]].
NotAnExample; Robert isn\\\'t trying to tell Huey and Riley that his use of the word is okay because there\\\'s something different about him, he\\\'s just being a hypocrite.
** {{Lampshaded}} during Uncle Ruckus\\\' \\\"Don\\\'t Trust Them New Niggas Over There\\\" song. After he finishes singing his horribly racist song for a bunch of rich white guests, one woman comments that she thinks it\\\'s okay for \\\"them\\\" to use the N-word, and then the audience applauds politely.
This is a valid example; I adjusted the wording slightly.
** An entire episode \\\"The S-Word\\\" ([[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLZA32oHbC4 based on a real story]]) is spent parodying and deconstructing this trope when one of Riley\\\'s teachers calls him the N-word and the media find out. The teacher\\\'s excuse was that Riley says the same word all the time.
NotAnExample. The teacher is arguing that because it\\\'s okay for Riley to say, it must be okay for him as well, which is an {{inversion}} if anything. Riley never argues that it\\\'s okay for him to say; he pretends that he doesn\\\'t say it. Hypocrisy, not this trope.
*** {{Lampshaded}} again, apparently it is used so much in the Freeman household, that Riley thought that was his name until he was three years old.
\\\"These people use this word\\\" is NotAnExample. There has to be an attempt to establish a standard for who gets privileges and who doesn\\\'t. This doesn\\\'t explain whether there is such a standard in play or what that standard is.
** \\\"The New Black\\\" lampshades it too, along with a number of other taboo words, like \\\"fag\\\" (which was censored on TV) and \\\"retarded\\\", which both Riley and Rollo Goodlove used throughout the episode, the latter of whom points out that it\\\'s okay for him to say \\\"nigga\\\" on TV but not [[BleepDammit *bleep*]].
Ditto. Unless Rollo is claiming that it would \\\'\\\'not\\\'\\\' be okay for a white person to say \\\"nigga\\\" on TV or that it \\\'\\\'would\\\'\\\' be okay for a gay person to say \\\"fag\\\" or a mentally disabled person to say \\\"retarded,\\\" (which he might have been doing, but I haven\\\'t seen the episode in a while), it\\\'s NotAnExample. If he \\\'\\\'is\\\'\\\' claiming those things, then say so in the example.
Going down the list:
* \\\'\\\'WesternAnimation/TheBoondocks\\\'\\\' uses the N-word very liberally. Most of the black characters, and a few white characters, say \\\"nigga\\\" frequently. The [=DuBois=] family are an exception though, never saying the word once.
This doesn\\\'t really give any information that wouldn\\\'t be better explained in the specific examples, so I deleted everything except the name of the series and added a colon.
** This show\\\'s N-Word Privileges go beyond just profanity. It often plays [[UncleTomfoolery offensive black stereotypes for humor]]; had it been created by a white guy, it probably would\\\'ve been derided as racist.
Deleted; it violates ExamplesAreNotArguable with the WeaselWord \\\"probably,\\\" veers into RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment territory, and is just generally NotAnExample since, as far as I know, the creators of The Boondocks have never held that their use of the word is okay while other people should not be able to say it.
** In \\\"The Garden Party\\\", Robert tells Huey and Riley that they shouldn\\\'t use the N-word, even though Huey points out that [[HypocriticalHumor Robert says it all the time]].
NotAnExample; Robert isn\\\'t trying to tell Huey and Riley that his use of the word is okay because there\\\'s something different about him, he\\\'s just being a hypocrite.
** {{Lampshaded}} during Uncle Ruckus\\\' \\\"Don\\\'t Trust Them New Niggas Over There\\\" song. After he finishes singing his horribly racist song for a bunch of rich white guests, one woman comments that she thinks it\\\'s okay for \\\"them\\\" to use the N-word, and then the audience applauds politely.
This is a valid example; I adjusted the wording slightly.
** An entire episode \\\"The S-Word\\\" ([[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLZA32oHbC4 based on a real story]]) is spent parodying and deconstructing this trope when one of Riley\\\'s teachers calls him the N-word and the media find out. The teacher\\\'s excuse was that Riley says the same word all the time.
NotAnExample. The teacher is arguing that because it\\\'s okay for Riley to say, it must be okay for him as well, which is an {{inversion}} if anything. Riley never argues that it\\\'s okay for him to say; he pretends that he doesn\\\'t say it. Hypocrisy, not this trope.
*** {{Lampshaded}} again, apparently it is used so much in the Freeman household, that Riley thought that was his name until he was three years old.
\\\"These people use this word\\\" is NotAnExample. There has to be an attempt to establish a standard for who gets privileges and who doesn\\\'t. This doesn\\\'t explain whether there is such a standard in play or what that standard is.
** \\\"The New Black\\\" lampshades it too, along with a number of other taboo words, like \\\"fag\\\" (which was censored on TV) and \\\"retarded\\\", which both Riley and Rollo Goodlove used throughout the episode, the latter of whom points out that it\\\'s okay for him to say \\\"nigga\\\" on TV but not [[BleepDammit *bleep*]].
Ditto. Unless Rollo is claiming that it would \\\'\\\'not\\\'\\\' be okay for a white person to say \\\"nigga\\\" on TV or that it \\\'\\\'would\\\'\\\' be okay for a gay person to say \\\"fag\\\" or a mentally disabled person to say \\\"retarded,\\\" (which he might have been doing, but I haven\\\'t seen the episode in a while), it\\\'s NotAnExample. If he \\\'\\\'is\\\'\\\' claiming those things, then say so in the example.
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There\\\'s been a little back-and-forth over some examples from \\\'\\\'WesternAnimation/TheBoondocks\\\'\\\', so I figured we should probably hash them out at length rather than trying to have a conversation in the edit history.
Going down the list:
* \\\'\\\'WesternAnimation/TheBoondocks\\\'\\\' uses the N-word very liberally. Most of the black characters, and a few white characters, say \\\"nigga\\\" frequently. The [=DuBois=] family are an exception though, never saying the word once.
This doesn\\\'t really give any information that\\\'s not better-explained in the specific examples, so I deleted everything except the name of the series and added a colon.
** This show\\\'s N-Word Privileges go beyond just profanity. It often plays [[UncleTomfoolery offensive black stereotypes for humor]]; had it been created by a white guy, it probably would\\\'ve been derided as racist.
Deleted; it violates ExamplesAreNotArguable with the WeaselWord \\\"probably,\\\" veers into RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment territory, and is just generally NotAnExample since, as far as I know, the creators of The Boondocks have never held that their use of the word is okay while other people should not be able to say it.
** In \\\"The Garden Party\\\", Robert tells Huey and Riley that they shouldn\\\'t use the N-word, even though Huey points out that [[HypocriticalHumor Robert says it all the time]].
NotAnExample; Robert isn\\\'t trying to tell Huey and Riley that his use of the word is okay because there\\\'s something different about him, he\\\'s just being a hypocrite.
** {{Lampshaded}} during Uncle Ruckus\\\' \\\"Don\\\'t Trust Them New Niggas Over There\\\" song. After he finishes singing his horribly racist song for a bunch of rich white guests, one woman comments that she thinks it\\\'s okay for \\\"them\\\" to use the N-word, and then the audience applauds politely.
This is a valid example; I adjusted the wording slightly.
** An entire episode \\\"The S-Word\\\" ([[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLZA32oHbC4 based on a real story]]) is spent parodying and deconstructing this trope when one of Riley\\\'s teachers calls him the N-word and the media find out. The teacher\\\'s excuse was that Riley says the same word all the time.
NotAnExample. The teacher is arguing that because it\\\'s okay for Riley to say, it must be okay for him as well, which is an {{inversion}} if anything. Riley never argues that it\\\'s okay for him to say; he pretends that he doesn\\\'t say it. Hypocrisy, not this trope.
*** {{Lampshaded}} again, apparently it is used so much in the Freeman household, that Riley thought that was his name until he was three years old.
\\\"These people use this word\\\" is NotAnExample. There has to be an attempt to establish a standard for who gets privileges and who doesn\\\'t. This doesn\\\'t explain whether there is such a standard in play or what that standard is.
** \\\"The New Black\\\" lampshades it too, along with a number of other taboo words, like \\\"fag\\\" (which was censored on TV) and \\\"retarded\\\", which both Riley and Rollo Goodlove used throughout the episode, the latter of whom points out that it\\\'s okay for him to say \\\"nigga\\\" on TV but not [[BleepDammit *bleep*]].
Ditto. Unless Rollo is claiming that it would \\\'\\\'not\\\'\\\' be okay for a white person to say \\\"nigga\\\" on TV or that it \\\'\\\'would\\\'\\\' be okay for a gay person to say \\\"fag\\\" or a mentally disabled person to say \\\"retarded,\\\" (which he might have been doing, but I haven\\\'t seen the episode in a while), it\\\'s NotAnExample. If he \\\'\\\'is\\\'\\\' claiming those things, then say so in the example.
Going down the list:
* \\\'\\\'WesternAnimation/TheBoondocks\\\'\\\' uses the N-word very liberally. Most of the black characters, and a few white characters, say \\\"nigga\\\" frequently. The [=DuBois=] family are an exception though, never saying the word once.
This doesn\\\'t really give any information that\\\'s not better-explained in the specific examples, so I deleted everything except the name of the series and added a colon.
** This show\\\'s N-Word Privileges go beyond just profanity. It often plays [[UncleTomfoolery offensive black stereotypes for humor]]; had it been created by a white guy, it probably would\\\'ve been derided as racist.
Deleted; it violates ExamplesAreNotArguable with the WeaselWord \\\"probably,\\\" veers into RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment territory, and is just generally NotAnExample since, as far as I know, the creators of The Boondocks have never held that their use of the word is okay while other people should not be able to say it.
** In \\\"The Garden Party\\\", Robert tells Huey and Riley that they shouldn\\\'t use the N-word, even though Huey points out that [[HypocriticalHumor Robert says it all the time]].
NotAnExample; Robert isn\\\'t trying to tell Huey and Riley that his use of the word is okay because there\\\'s something different about him, he\\\'s just being a hypocrite.
** {{Lampshaded}} during Uncle Ruckus\\\' \\\"Don\\\'t Trust Them New Niggas Over There\\\" song. After he finishes singing his horribly racist song for a bunch of rich white guests, one woman comments that she thinks it\\\'s okay for \\\"them\\\" to use the N-word, and then the audience applauds politely.
This is a valid example; I adjusted the wording slightly.
** An entire episode \\\"The S-Word\\\" ([[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLZA32oHbC4 based on a real story]]) is spent parodying and deconstructing this trope when one of Riley\\\'s teachers calls him the N-word and the media find out. The teacher\\\'s excuse was that Riley says the same word all the time.
NotAnExample. The teacher is arguing that because it\\\'s okay for Riley to say, it must be okay for him as well, which is an {{inversion}} if anything. Riley never argues that it\\\'s okay for him to say; he pretends that he doesn\\\'t say it. Hypocrisy, not this trope.
*** {{Lampshaded}} again, apparently it is used so much in the Freeman household, that Riley thought that was his name until he was three years old.
\\\"These people use this word\\\" is NotAnExample. There has to be an attempt to establish a standard for who gets privileges and who doesn\\\'t. This doesn\\\'t explain whether there is such a standard in play or what that standard is.
** \\\"The New Black\\\" lampshades it too, along with a number of other taboo words, like \\\"fag\\\" (which was censored on TV) and \\\"retarded\\\", which both Riley and Rollo Goodlove used throughout the episode, the latter of whom points out that it\\\'s okay for him to say \\\"nigga\\\" on TV but not [[BleepDammit *bleep*]].
Ditto. Unless Rollo is claiming that it would \\\'\\\'not\\\'\\\' be okay for a white person to say \\\"nigga\\\" on TV or that it \\\'\\\'would\\\'\\\' be okay for a gay person to say \\\"fag\\\" or a mentally disabled person to say \\\"retarded,\\\" (which he might have been doing, but I haven\\\'t seen the episode in a while), it\\\'s NotAnExample. If he \\\'\\\'is\\\'\\\' claiming those things, then say so in the example.
