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I know this is from the YMMV page, but I really haven\'t seen any hate for the show for being \
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I know this is from the YMMV page, but I really haven\\\'t seen any hate for the show for being \\\"anti-feminist\\\" or something like that (as if everything has to be feminist). I\\\'ve seen more about being a silly parody of magical girls than hate for it not having girls or being fujo bait.
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First of all, you may think my comments are rude, but I find it far more offensive that an article like this exists. Most people in the forum ask each other questions about what this \'\'Euroshlock\'\' is supposed to be and which films ought to belong to it. As I said before I don\'t mind people not knowing much about the subject or liking it either, but if the discussion is about the name and the definition and most people joining the discussion and finally deciding the final verdict are actually people who either just dislike the genre anyway and don\'t much about about it either, well, then you\'re not getting a very honest debate. I mean, I dislike computer games, but that\'s why I would never join in on debates about this topic. Because I wouldn\'t have enough knowledge or an open mind to discuss the value or importance of such matters. When I see films of quality defined as \'\'shlock\'\' and indexed as such, then I see it as a violation of neutrality. We had the same discussion with \'\'CultClassic\'\'. All examples were cut in the end, because it\'s difficult to define such a subjective term. When I see films defined as \'\'Euroshlock\'\', even though a huge chunk of them are even strictly European then I wonder why we are giving our readers such grossly wrong facts?
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First of all, you may think my comments are rude, but I find it far more offensive that an article like this exists. Most people in the forum ask each other questions about what this \\\'\\\'Euroshlock\\\'\\\' is supposed to be and which films ought to belong to it. As I said before I don\\\'t mind people not knowing much about the subject or liking it either, but if the discussion is about the name and the definition and most people joining the discussion and finally deciding the final verdict are actually people who either just dislike the genre anyway and don\\\'t much about about it either, well, then you\\\'re not getting a very honest debate. I mean, I dislike computer games, but that\\\'s why I would never join in on debates about this topic. Because I wouldn\\\'t have enough knowledge or an open mind to discuss the value or importance of such matters. When I see films of quality defined as \\\'\\\'shlock\\\'\\\' and indexed as such, then I see it as a violation of neutrality. We had the same discussion with \\\'\\\'CultClassic\\\'\\\'. All examples were cut in the end, because it\\\'s difficult to define such a subjective term. When I see films defined as \\\'\\\'Euroshlock\\\'\\\', even though a huge chunk of them aren\\\'t even strictly European then I wonder why we are giving our readers such grossly subjective/badly defined info?
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First of all, you may think my comments are rude, but I find it far more offensive that an article like this exists. Most people in the forum ask each other questions about what this \'\'Euroshlock\'\' is supposed to be and which films ought to belong to it. As I said before I don\'t mind people not knowing much about the subject or liking it either, but if the discussion is about the name and the definition and most people joining the discussion and finally deciding the final verdict are actually people who either just dislike the genre anyway and don\'t much about about it either, well, then you\'re not getting a very honest debate. I mean, I dislike computer games, but that\'s why I would never join in on debates about this topic. Because I wouldn\'t have enough knowledge or an open mind to discuss the value or importance of such matters. When I see films of quality defined as \'\'shlock\'\' and indexed as such, then I see it as a violation of neutrality. We had the same discussion with \'\'CultClassic\'\'. All examples were cut in the end, because it\'s difficult to define such a subjective term. When I see films defined as \'\'Euroshlock\'\', even though a huge chunk of them are even strictly European then I wonder why we are giving our readers such grossly wrong facts?
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First of all, you may think my comments are rude, but I find it far more offensive that an article like this exists. Most people in the forum ask each other questions about what this \\\'\\\'Euroshlock\\\'\\\' is supposed to be and which films ought to belong to it. As I said before I don\\\'t mind people not knowing much about the subject or liking it either, but if the discussion is about the name and the definition and most people joining the discussion and finally deciding the final verdict are actually people who either just dislike the genre anyway and don\\\'t much about about it either, well, then you\\\'re not getting a very honest debate. I mean, I dislike computer games, but that\\\'s why I would never join in on debates about this topic. Because I wouldn\\\'t have enough knowledge or an open mind to discuss the value or importance of such matters. When I see films of quality defined as \\\'\\\'shlock\\\'\\\' and indexed as such, then I see it as a violation of neutrality. We had the same discussion with \\\'\\\'CultClassic\\\'\\\'. All examples were cut in the end, because it\\\'s difficult to define such a subjective term. When I see films defined as \\\'\\\'Euroshlock\\\'\\\', even though a huge chunk of them aren\\\'t even strictly European then I wonder why we are giving our readers such grossly subjective/badly defined info?
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First of all, you may think my comments are rude, but I find it far more offensive that an article like this exists. Most people in the forum ask each other questions about what this \'\'Euroshlock\'\' is supposed to be and which films ought to belong to it. As I said before I don\'t mind people not knowing much about the subject or liking it either, but if the discussion is about the name and the definition and most people joining the discussion and finally deciding the final verdict are actually people who either just dislike the genre anyway and don\'t much about about it either, well, then you\'re not getting a very honest debate. I mean, I dislike computer games, but that\'s why I would never join in on debates about this topic. Because I wouldn\'t have enough knowledge or an open mind to discuss the value or importance of such matters. When I see films of quality defined as \'\'shlock\'\' and indexed as such, then I see it as a violation of neutrality. We had the same discussion with \'\'CultClassic\'\'. All examples were cut in the end, because it\'s difficult to define such a subjective term. When I see films defined as \'\'Euroshlock\'\', even though a huge chunk of them are even strictly European then I wonder why we are giving our readers such grossly wrong facts?
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First of all, you may think my comments are rude, but I find it far more offensive that an article like this exists. Most people in the forum ask each other questions about what this \\\'\\\'Euroshlock\\\'\\\' is supposed to be and which films ought to belong to it. As I said before I don\\\'t mind people not knowing much about the subject or liking it either, but if the discussion is about the name and the definition and most people joining the discussion and finally deciding the final verdict are actually people who either just dislike the genre anyway and don\\\'t much about about it either, well, then you\\\'re not getting a very honest debate. I mean, I dislike computer games, but that\\\'s why I would never join in on debates about this topic. Because I wouldn\\\'t have enough knowledge or an open mind to discuss the value or importance of such matters. When I see films of quality defined as \\\'\\\'shlock\\\'\\\' and indexed as such, then I see it as a violation of neutrality. We had the same discussion with \\\'\\\'CultClassic\\\'\\\'. All examples were cut in the end, because it\\\'s difficult to define such a subjective term. When I see films defined as \\\'\\\'Euroshlock\\\'\\\', even though a huge chunk of them aren\\\'t even strictly European then I wonder why we are giving our readers such grossly subjective/badly defined info?
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Most people in the forum ask each other questions about what this \'\'Euroshlock\'\' is supposed to be and which films ought to belong to it. As I said before I don\'t mind people not knowing much about the subject or liking it either, but if the discussion is about the name and the definition and most people joining the discussion and finally deciding the final verdict are actually people who either just dislike the genre anyway and don\'t much about about it either, well, then you\'re not getting a very honest debate. I mean, I dislike computer games, but that\'s why I would never join in on debates about this topic. Because I wouldn\'t have enough knowledge or open mind to discuss the value or importance of such matters.
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First of all, you may think my comments are rude, but I find it far more offensive that an article like this exists. Most people in the forum ask each other questions about what this \\\'\\\'Euroshlock\\\'\\\' is supposed to be and which films ought to belong to it. As I said before I don\\\'t mind people not knowing much about the subject or liking it either, but if the discussion is about the name and the definition and most people joining the discussion and finally deciding the final verdict are actually people who either just dislike the genre anyway and don\\\'t much about about it either, well, then you\\\'re not getting a very honest debate. I mean, I dislike computer games, but that\\\'s why I would never join in on debates about this topic. Because I wouldn\\\'t have enough knowledge or an open mind to discuss the value or importance of such matters. When I see films of quality defined as \\\'\\\'shlock\\\'\\\' and indexed as such, then I see it as a violation of neutrality. We had the same discussion with \\\'\\\'CultClassic\\\'\\\'. All examples were cut in the end, because it\\\'s difficult to define such a subjective term. When I see films defined as \\\'\\\'Euroshlock\\\'\\\', even though a huge chunk of them are even strictly European then I wonder why we are giving our readers such grossly wrong facts?
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Also, you were one of the people in the debate, so I can understand why you don\'t feel like going through that discussion again. But you don\'t have to join in if you don\'t want to. I just find it a pity that this article is created out of prejudices against a genre and has an equally derogatory name attached to it. If you look on the Internet you\'re probably gonna find somebody using the term \'\'Euroshlock\'\' or \'\'Crazy Nigger\'\' or \'Stupid Americans\'\', but that doesn\'t mean that offensive term should be used as a title for an article. And I\'m not making things up here. From the moment this article was created in the \'\'YMMV\'\' tab people have already felt it was just a list created by someone who just wanted to rant against a genre he dislikes. And articles that are blocked for other users already give you an idea what the main troubles are.
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Also, you were one of the people in the debate about \\\'\\\'Euroshlock\\\'\\\', so I can understand why you don\\\'t feel like going through that discussion again. But you don\\\'t have to join in if you don\\\'t want to. I just find it a pity that this article is created out of prejudices against a genre and has an equally derogatory name attached to it. If you look on the Internet you\\\'re probably gonna find somebody using the term \\\'\\\'Euroshlock\\\'\\\' or \\\'\\\'Crazy Nigger\\\'\\\' or \\\'\\\'Stupid Americans\\\'\\\', but that doesn\\\'t mean that offensive term should be used as a title for an article. And I\\\'m not making things up here. From the moment this article was created in the \\\'\\\'YMMV\\\'\\\' tab people have already felt it was just a list created by someone who just wanted to rant against a genre he dislikes.
To show that I can understand the other side of the argument: I would prefer the suggestions of films defined as \\\'\\\'Euroshlock\\\'\\\' to be moved to the \\\'\\\'YMMV\\\'\\\' tab and/or removed, just like happened with \\\'\\\'CultClassic\\\'\\\'. Or the \\\'\\\'index\\\'\\\' removed, so that the examples listed don\\\'t pop up on other pages as if these films are effectively \\\'\\\'shlock made in Europe\\\'\\\'.
To show that I can understand the other side of the argument: I would prefer the suggestions of films defined as \\\'\\\'Euroshlock\\\'\\\' to be moved to the \\\'\\\'YMMV\\\'\\\' tab and/or removed, just like happened with \\\'\\\'CultClassic\\\'\\\'. Or the \\\'\\\'index\\\'\\\' removed, so that the examples listed don\\\'t pop up on other pages as if these films are effectively \\\'\\\'shlock made in Europe\\\'\\\'.
