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Not sure if there\'s a category for tropers being in a movie, but I was in this. I was the long haired wrestling fan in the opening sequence, and the long haired zombie in blue coveralls through the rest of it.
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Not sure if there\\\'s a category for tropers being in a movie, but I was in this. I was the long haired wrestling fan wearing a Doctor Who shirt in the opening sequence, and the long haired zombie in blue coveralls through the rest of it.
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I\'m still against him being listed as one in general though - the point Melon makes that Hans is more like the non-video game example of a FinalBoss than necessarily a big bad is a decent one, as he doesn\'t exert much control over the plot or really have much of a major antagonistic presence (even behind the scenes) in the events themselves. He\'s a major secondary character who turns out to be evil, and he\'s the subject of the big climactic confrontation, but that itself does not a BigBad make - it\'s about being the major antagonistic threat against which all (or most) action the heroes take is compared (that\'s why Elsa is the closest character to fitting the role, even if she ultimately doesn\'t fill it either).
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I\\\'m still against him being listed as one in general though - the point Melon makes that Hans is more like the non-video game example of a FinalBoss than necessarily a big bad is a decent one, as he doesn\\\'t exert much control over the plot or really have much of a major antagonistic presence (even behind the scenes) in the events themselves. He\\\'s a major secondary character who turns out to be evil, and he\\\'s the subject of the big climactic confrontation, but that itself does not a BigBad make - it\\\'s about being the major antagonistic threat against which all (or most) action the heroes take is compared (that\\\'s why Elsa is the closest character to fitting the role, even if she ultimately doesn\\\'t fill it either).
In short, there\\\'s an element of either control over the plot or role/standing in comparison to the other characters that Hans just doesn\\\'t have. While he \\\'\\\'is\\\'\\\' the only truly villainous character in the movie, he does not fill the niche of \\\"evil presence that looms over the others\\\" (like Oogie Boogie does - the only reason Oogie fits, as he likewise doesn\\\'t have much input in the plot: Nightmare Before Christmas and Frozen are very comparable when it comes to this topic), that would make it more reasonable for him to fit.
In short, there\\\'s an element of either control over the plot or role/standing in comparison to the other characters that Hans just doesn\\\'t have. While he \\\'\\\'is\\\'\\\' the only truly villainous character in the movie, he does not fill the niche of \\\"evil presence that looms over the others\\\" (like Oogie Boogie does - the only reason Oogie fits, as he likewise doesn\\\'t have much input in the plot: Nightmare Before Christmas and Frozen are very comparable when it comes to this topic), that would make it more reasonable for him to fit.
