Discussion History Series / Supernatural

@ [=KingZeal=]: My question is this: With the statement \\\"At the moment, he\\\'s considered the USA\\\'s most consistent player\\\", are we accounting for games that still have an active scene (I.E. the main games at EVO 2014) or are we also accounting for older games as well? I feel like if we include all of the games both players have played at a competitive level, Justin clearly has the upper hand, considering he\\\'s played more games at a top level than Chris has due to being around longer. If we\\\'re talking about active games, then we have Ultra Street Fighter IV (Justin has historically outperformed Chris in Street Fighter IV as a whole, although Chris has certainly had his moments), Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 (Chris has historically been the most dominant player in this game, but Justin himself is consistent as well, and along with Filipino Champ, is one of the 2 players to place Top 8 at every Marvel vs. Capcom 3 EVO, and he has an EVO win himself, something that Chris hasn\\\'t gotten yet), Killer Instinct (Justin has completely outperformed Chris in this game), The King of Fighters XIII (this goes to Chris), and Injustice: Gods Among Us (this also goes to Chris).

I think in terms of active games, yes, it\\\'s really close and could potentially go in either player\\\'s favor. In overall history, though, Justin definitely has the advantage.

Also, if we take commentators\\\' statements into account, [[http://youtu.be/F32phCcwh10?t=11m3s Magus1234 and Yipes both agree that Justin Wong is the greatest fighting game player of all time]].

@ [=SeptimusHeap=]: My statement was based on overall history, not just one article alone. I simply referenced it to help address my point. I am not trying to start an edit war, rather I\\\'m just trying to shed light on why I added it in.

@ [=KingZeal=]: My question is this: With the statement \\\"At the moment, he\\\'s considered the USA\\\'s most consistent player\\\", are we accounting for games that still have an active scene (I.E. the main games at EVO 2014) or are we also accounting for older games as well? I feel like if we include all of the games both players have played at a competitive level, Justin clearly has the upper hand, considering he\\\'s played more games at a top level than Chris has due to being around longer. If we\\\'re talking about active games, then we have Ultra Street Fighter IV (Justin has historically outperformed Chris in Street Fighter IV as a whole, although Chris has certainly had his moments), Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 (Chris has historically been the most dominant player in this game, but Justin himself is consistent as well, and along with Filipino Champ, is one of the 2 players to place Top 8 at every Marvel vs. Capcom 3 EVO, and he has an EVO win himself, something that Chris hasn\\\'t gotten yet), Killer Instinct (Justin has completely outperformed Chris in this game), The King of Fighters XIII (this goes to Chris), and Injustice: Gods Among Us (this also goes to Chris).

I think in terms of active games, yes, it\\\'s really close and could potentially go in either player\\\'s favor. In overall history, though, Justin definitely has the advantage.

Also, if we take commentators\\\' statements into account, [[http://youtu.be/F32phCcwh10?t=11m3s Magus1234 and Yipes both agree that Justin Wong is the greatest fighting game player of all time]].

@ [=SeptimusHeap=]: My statement was based on overall history, not just one article alone. I simply referenced it to help address my point. I am not trying to start an edit war, just trying to provide in detail why I added it in.

@ [=KingZeal=]: My question is this: With the statement \\\"At the moment, he\\\'s considered the USA\\\'s most consistent player\\\", are we accounting for games that still have an active scene (I.E. the main games at EVO 2014) or are we also accounting for older games as well? I feel like if we include all of the games both players have played at a competitive level, Justin clearly has the upper hand, considering he\\\'s played more games at a top level than Chris has due to being around longer. If we\\\'re talking about active games, then we have Ultra Street Fighter IV (Justin has historically outperformed Chris in Street Fighter IV as a whole, although Chris has certainly had his moments), Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 (Chris has historically been the most dominant player in this game, but Justin himself is consistent as well, and along with Filipino Champ, is one of the 2 players to place Top 8 at every Marvel vs. Capcom 3 EVO, and he has an EVO win himself, something that Chris hasn\\\'t gotten yet), Killer Instinct (Justin has completely outperformed Chris in this game), The King of Fighters XIII (this goes to Chris), and Injustice: Gods Among Us (this also goes to Chris).

I think in terms of active games, yes, it\\\'s really close and could potentially go in either player\\\'s favor. In overall history, though, Justin definitely has the advantage.

Also, if we take commentators\\\' statements into account, [[http://youtu.be/F32phCcwh10?t=11m3s Magus1234 and Yipes both agree that Justin Wong is the greatest fighting game player of all time]].

@ [=SeptimusHeap=]: My statement was based on overall history, not just one article alone. I simply referenced it to help address my point.

@ KingZeal: My question is this: With the statement \\\"At the moment, he\\\'s considered the USA\\\'s most consistent player\\\", are we accounting for games that still have an active scene (I.E. the main games at EVO 2014) or are we also accounting for older games as well? I feel like if we include all of the games both players have played at a competitive level, Justin clearly has the upper hand, considering he\\\'s played more games at a top level than Chris has due to being around longer. If we\\\'re talking about active games, then we have Ultra Street Fighter IV (Justin has historically outperformed Chris in Street Fighter IV as a whole, although Chris has certainly had his moments), Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 (Chris has historically been the most dominant player in this game, but Justin himself is consistent as well, and along with Filipino Champ, is one of the 2 players to place Top 8 at every Marvel vs. Capcom 3 EVO, and he has an EVO win himself, something that Chris hasn\\\'t gotten yet), Killer Instinct (Justin has completely outperformed Chris in this game), The King of Fighters XIII (this goes to Chris), and Injustice: Gods Among Us (this also goes to Chris).

I think in terms of active games, yes, it\\\'s really close and could potentially go in either\\\'s favor. In overall history, though, Justin definitely has the advantage.

Also, if we take commentators\\\' statements into account, [[http://youtu.be/F32phCcwh10?t=11m3s Magus1234 and Yipes both agree that Justin Wong is the greatest fighting game player of all time]].

@ SeptimusHeap: My statement was based on overall history, not just one article alone. I simply referenced it to help address my point.

My question is this: With the statement \\\"At the moment, he\\\'s considered the USA\\\'s most consistent player\\\", are we accounting for games that still have an active scene (I.E. the main games at EVO 2014) or are we also accounting for older games as well? I feel like if we include all of the games both players have played at a competitive level, Justin clearly has the upper hand, considering he\\\'s played more games at a top level than Chris has due to being around longer. If we\\\'re talking about active games, then we have Ultra Street Fighter IV (Justin has historically outperformed Chris in Street Fighter IV as a whole, although Chris has certainly had his moments), Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 (Chris has historically been the most dominant player in this game, but Justin himself is consistent as well, and along with Filipino Champ, is one of the 2 players to place Top 8 at every Marvel vs. Capcom 3 EVO, and he has an EVO win himself, something that Chris hasn\\\'t gotten yet), Killer Instinct (Justin has completely outperformed Chris in this game), The King of Fighters XIII (this goes to Chris), and Injustice: Gods Among Us (this also goes to Chris).

I think in terms of active games, yes, it\\\'s really close and could potentially go in either\\\'s favor. In overall history, though, Justin definitely has the advantage.

Also, if we take commentators\\\' statements into account, [[http://youtu.be/F32phCcwh10?t=11m3s Magus1234 and Yipes both agree that Justin Wong is the greatest fighting game player of all time]].