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\\\"After we learn all the things the old quarian government did in the Morning War (murdering hundreds of innocent people because they objected to state-ordered genocide and then blaming the geth for it all) in the eyes of some fans they veer more towards Jerkass Woobie\\\"
I tried to delete this for the obvious logical fallacy- everyone involved in that has been dead for centuries and covered it up, so there\\\'s no way any quarian alive today could\\\'ve known about it, much less participated in it. Yet that got deleted because \\\"Jerkass Woobie is a fan reaction, not something objective. Fan reactions can be very irrational, and I\\\'ve seen this opinion regarding the quarians. Ugly but true\\\".
I have a problem with this. Mostly because putting up on the page and presenting it in a legitimate light makes it sound like the entry isn\\\'t \\\'\\\'meant\\\'\\\'\\\' to make the position sound irrational. Furthermore, if this is apparently enough to label the entire species as a {{Jerkass}} species, why aren\\\'t the geth listed here as a {{Jerkass}} species? Any attempt to do so has been deleted (by the same guy who re-added the entry above). The heretic geth, who went out to commit genocide on everyone, were not the majority, but they were still a huge portion of their population. Likely much larger than whatever amount of high ranking quarian government officials and soldiers decided to murder the protesters and cover it up. To make it worse, while that was done hundreds of years ago and everyone involved is dead now, the heretic crimes were done in the present. The geth seemed to care even less about the heretics crimes than the quarians did about their ancestors- at least Raan expresses some shock when she learns this. The geth knew about that the heretics would go off to slaughter millions if not billions and didn\\\'t care at all. And the heretics\\\' motivation was simple greed rather than KnightTemplar-style paranoia like the old quarian government.
I can also bring up more reasons why some people hate the geth. Like, for example, how after the geth were through, a population of billions somehow turned into 17 million. Or how the geth take planets they don\\\'t need and shoot anyone who comes near them- even though they explicitly don\\\'t use them and acknowledge that the quarians basically need them- and then blame the organics. This all seems like they should be a JerkassWoobie species, not a straight WoobieSpecies- heck, the page itself says that they\\\'re only the WoobieSpecies \\\"to some degree\\\", yet doesn\\\'t actually list why they\\\'re nowhere near a straight example (and there are a lot of reasons).
The point is, the geth [[GreyAndGreyMorality have done just as much if not more to warrant the]] JerkassWoobie (or just straight Jerkass) label, while the justification declaring the quarians a JerkassWoobie species makes no sense.
I tried to delete this for the obvious logical fallacy- everyone involved in that has been dead for centuries and covered it up, so there\\\'s no way any quarian alive today could\\\'ve known about it, much less participated in it. Yet that got deleted because \\\"Jerkass Woobie is a fan reaction, not something objective. Fan reactions can be very irrational, and I\\\'ve seen this opinion regarding the quarians. Ugly but true\\\".
I have a problem with this. Mostly because putting up on the page and presenting it in a legitimate light makes it sound like the entry isn\\\'t \\\'\\\'meant\\\'\\\'\\\' to make the position sound irrational. Furthermore, if this is apparently enough to label the entire species as a {{Jerkass}} species, why aren\\\'t the geth listed here as a {{Jerkass}} species? Any attempt to do so has been deleted (by the same guy who re-added the entry above). The heretic geth, who went out to commit genocide on everyone, were not the majority, but they were still a huge portion of their population. Likely much larger than whatever amount of high ranking quarian government officials and soldiers decided to murder the protesters and cover it up. To make it worse, while that was done hundreds of years ago and everyone involved is dead now, the heretic crimes were done in the present. The geth seemed to care even less about the heretics crimes than the quarians did about their ancestors- at least Raan expresses some shock when she learns this. The geth knew about that the heretics would go off to slaughter millions if not billions and didn\\\'t care at all. And the heretics\\\' motivation was simple greed rather than KnightTemplar-style paranoia like the old quarian government.
I can also bring up more reasons why some people hate the geth. Like, for example, how after the geth were through, a population of billions somehow turned into 17 million. Or how the geth take planets they don\\\'t need and shoot anyone who comes near them- even though they explicitly don\\\'t use them and acknowledge that the quarians basically need them- and then blame the organics. This all seems like they should be a JerkassWoobie species, not a straight WoobieSpecies- heck, the page itself says that they\\\'re only the WoobieSpecies \\\"to some degree\\\", yet doesn\\\'t actually list why they\\\'re nowhere near a straight example (and there are a lot of reasons).
The point is, the geth [[GreyAndGreyMorality have done just as much if not more to warrant the]] JerkassWoobie (or just straight Jerkass) label, while the justification declaring the quarians a JerkassWoobie species makes no sense.
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\\\"After we learn all the things the old quarian government did in the Morning War (murdering hundreds of innocent people because they objected to state-ordered genocide and then blaming the geth for it all) in the eyes of some fans they veer more towards Jerkass Woobie\\\"
I tried to delete this for the obvious logical fallacy- everyone involved in that has been dead for centuries and covered it up, so there\\\'s no way any quarian alive today could\\\'ve known about it, much less participated in it. Yet that got deleted because \\\"Jerkass Woobie is a fan reaction, not something objective. Fan reactions can be very irrational, and I\\\'ve seen this opinion regarding the quarians. Ugly but true\\\".
I have a problem with this. Mostly because putting up on the page and presenting it in a legitimate light makes it sound like the entry isn\\\'t \\\'\\\'meant\\\'\\\'\\\' to make the position sound irrational. Furthermore, if this is apparently enough to label the entire species as a {{Jerkass}} species, why aren\\\'t the geth listed here as a {{Jerkass}} species? Any attempt to do so has been deleted (by the same guy who re-added the entry above). The heretic geth, who went out to commit genocide on everyone, were not the majority, but they were still a huge portion of their population. Likely much larger than whatever amount of high ranking quarian government officials and soldiers decided to murder the protesters and cover it up. To make it worse, while that was done hundreds of years ago and everyone involved is dead now, the heretic crimes were done in the present. The geth seemed to care even less about the heretics crimes than the quarians did about their ancestors- at least Raan expresses some shock when she learns this. The geth knew about that the heretics would go off to slaughter millions if not billions and didn\\\'t care at all. And the heretics\\\' motivation was simple greed rather than KnightTemplar-style paranoia like the old quarian government.
I can also bring up more reasons why some people hate the geth. Like, for example, how after the geth were through, a population of billions somehow turned into 17 million. Or how the geth take planets they don\\\'t need and shoot anyone who comes near them- even though they explicitly don\\\'t use them and acknowledge that the quarians basically need them- and then blame the organics. This all seems like they should be a JerkassWoobie species, not a straight WoobieSpecies- heck, the page itself says that they\\\'re only the WoobieSpecies \\\"to some extent\\\", yet doesn\\\'t actually list why they\\\'re nowhere near a straight example (and there are a lot).
The point is, the geth [[GreyAndGreyMorality have done just as much if not more to warrant the]] JerkassWoobie (or just straight Jerkass) label, while the justification declaring the quarians a JerkassWoobie species makes no sense.
I tried to delete this for the obvious logical fallacy- everyone involved in that has been dead for centuries and covered it up, so there\\\'s no way any quarian alive today could\\\'ve known about it, much less participated in it. Yet that got deleted because \\\"Jerkass Woobie is a fan reaction, not something objective. Fan reactions can be very irrational, and I\\\'ve seen this opinion regarding the quarians. Ugly but true\\\".
I have a problem with this. Mostly because putting up on the page and presenting it in a legitimate light makes it sound like the entry isn\\\'t \\\'\\\'meant\\\'\\\'\\\' to make the position sound irrational. Furthermore, if this is apparently enough to label the entire species as a {{Jerkass}} species, why aren\\\'t the geth listed here as a {{Jerkass}} species? Any attempt to do so has been deleted (by the same guy who re-added the entry above). The heretic geth, who went out to commit genocide on everyone, were not the majority, but they were still a huge portion of their population. Likely much larger than whatever amount of high ranking quarian government officials and soldiers decided to murder the protesters and cover it up. To make it worse, while that was done hundreds of years ago and everyone involved is dead now, the heretic crimes were done in the present. The geth seemed to care even less about the heretics crimes than the quarians did about their ancestors- at least Raan expresses some shock when she learns this. The geth knew about that the heretics would go off to slaughter millions if not billions and didn\\\'t care at all. And the heretics\\\' motivation was simple greed rather than KnightTemplar-style paranoia like the old quarian government.
I can also bring up more reasons why some people hate the geth. Like, for example, how after the geth were through, a population of billions somehow turned into 17 million. Or how the geth take planets they don\\\'t need and shoot anyone who comes near them- even though they explicitly don\\\'t use them and acknowledge that the quarians basically need them- and then blame the organics. This all seems like they should be a JerkassWoobie species, not a straight WoobieSpecies- heck, the page itself says that they\\\'re only the WoobieSpecies \\\"to some extent\\\", yet doesn\\\'t actually list why they\\\'re nowhere near a straight example (and there are a lot).
The point is, the geth [[GreyAndGreyMorality have done just as much if not more to warrant the]] JerkassWoobie (or just straight Jerkass) label, while the justification declaring the quarians a JerkassWoobie species makes no sense.
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\\\"After we learn all the things the old quarian government did in the Morning War (murdering hundreds of innocent people because they objected to state-ordered genocide and then blaming the geth for it all) in the eyes of some fans they veer more towards Jerkass Woobie\\\"
I tried to delete this for the obvious logical fallacy- everyone involved in that has been dead for centuries and covered it up, so there\\\'s no way any quarian alive today could\\\'ve known about it, much less participated in it. Yet that got deleted because \\\"Jerkass Woobie is a fan reaction, not something objective. Fan reactions can be very irrational, and I\\\'ve seen this opinion regarding the quarians. Ugly but true\\\".
I have a problem with this. Mostly because putting up on the page and presenting it in a legitimate light makes it sound like the entry isn\\\'t \\\'\\\'meant\\\'\\\'\\\' to make the position sound irrational. Furthermore, if this is apparently enough to label the entire species as a {{Jerkass}} species, why aren\\\'t the geth listed here as a {{Jerkass}} species? Any attempt to do so has been deleted (by the same guy who re-added the entry above). The heretic geth, who went out to commit genocide on everyone, were not the majority, but were was still a huge portion of their population. Likely much larger than whatever amount of high ranking quarian government officials and soldiers decided to murder the protesters and cover it up. To make it worse, while that was done hundreds of years ago and everyone involved is dead now, the heretic crimes were done in the present. The geth seemed to care even less about the heretics crimes than the quarians did about their ancestors- at least Raan expresses some shock when she learns this. The geth knew about that the heretics would go off to slaughter millions if not billions and didn\\\'t care at all.
I can also bring up more reasons why some people hate the geth. Like, for example, how after the geth were through, a population of billions somehow turned into 17 million. Or how the geth take planets they don\\\'t need and shoot anyone who comes near them- even though they explicitly don\\\'t use them and acknowledge that the quarians basically need them- and then blame the organics. This all seems like they should be a JerkassWoobie species, not a straight WoobieSpecies- heck, the page itself says that they\\\'re only the WoobieSpecies \\\"to some extent\\\", yet doesn\\\'t actually list why they\\\'re nowhere near a straight example (and there are a lot).
The point is, the geth [[GreyAndGreyMorality have done just as much if not more to warrant the]] JerkassWoobie (or just straight Jerkass) label, while the justification declaring the quarians a JerkassWoobie species makes no sense.
I tried to delete this for the obvious logical fallacy- everyone involved in that has been dead for centuries and covered it up, so there\\\'s no way any quarian alive today could\\\'ve known about it, much less participated in it. Yet that got deleted because \\\"Jerkass Woobie is a fan reaction, not something objective. Fan reactions can be very irrational, and I\\\'ve seen this opinion regarding the quarians. Ugly but true\\\".
I have a problem with this. Mostly because putting up on the page and presenting it in a legitimate light makes it sound like the entry isn\\\'t \\\'\\\'meant\\\'\\\'\\\' to make the position sound irrational. Furthermore, if this is apparently enough to label the entire species as a {{Jerkass}} species, why aren\\\'t the geth listed here as a {{Jerkass}} species? Any attempt to do so has been deleted (by the same guy who re-added the entry above). The heretic geth, who went out to commit genocide on everyone, were not the majority, but were was still a huge portion of their population. Likely much larger than whatever amount of high ranking quarian government officials and soldiers decided to murder the protesters and cover it up. To make it worse, while that was done hundreds of years ago and everyone involved is dead now, the heretic crimes were done in the present. The geth seemed to care even less about the heretics crimes than the quarians did about their ancestors- at least Raan expresses some shock when she learns this. The geth knew about that the heretics would go off to slaughter millions if not billions and didn\\\'t care at all.
I can also bring up more reasons why some people hate the geth. Like, for example, how after the geth were through, a population of billions somehow turned into 17 million. Or how the geth take planets they don\\\'t need and shoot anyone who comes near them- even though they explicitly don\\\'t use them and acknowledge that the quarians basically need them- and then blame the organics. This all seems like they should be a JerkassWoobie species, not a straight WoobieSpecies- heck, the page itself says that they\\\'re only the WoobieSpecies \\\"to some extent\\\", yet doesn\\\'t actually list why they\\\'re nowhere near a straight example (and there are a lot).
The point is, the geth [[GreyAndGreyMorality have done just as much if not more to warrant the]] JerkassWoobie (or just straight Jerkass) label, while the justification declaring the quarians a JerkassWoobie species makes no sense.
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[[quoteblock]]After we learn all the things the old quarian government did in the Morning War ( murdering hundreds of innocent people because they objected to state-ordered genocide and then blaming the geth for it all) in the eyes of some fans they veer more towards Jerkass Woobie.[[/quoteblock]]
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\\\"After we learn all the things the old quarian government did in the Morning War (murdering hundreds of innocent people because they objected to state-ordered genocide and then blaming the geth for it all) in the eyes of some fans they veer more towards Jerkass Woobie\\\"
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I tried to delete this for the obvious logical fallacy- everyone involved in that has been dead for centuries and covered it up, so there\\\'s no way any quarian alive today could\\\'ve known about it, much less participated in it. Yet that got deleted because \\\"Jerkass Woobie is a fan reaction, not something objective. Fan reactions can be very irrational, and I\\\'ve seen this opinion regarding the quarians. Ugly but true\\\".
I have a problem with this. Mostly because putting up on the page and presenting it in a legitimate light makes it sound like the entry isn\\\'t \\\'\\\'meant\\\'\\\'\\\' to make the position sound irrational. Furthermore, if this is apparently enough to label the entire species as a {{Jerkass}} species, why aren\\\'t the geth listed here as a {{Jerkass}} species? Any attempt to do so has been deleted (by the same guy every time). The heretic geth, who went out to commit genocide on everyone, were not the majority, but were was still a huge portion of their population. Likely much larger than whatever amount of high ranking quarian government officials and soldiers decided to murder the protesters and cover it up. To make it worse, while that was done hundreds of years ago and everyone involved is dead now, the heretic crimes were done in the present. The geth seemed to care even less about the heretics crimes than the quarians did about their ancestors- at least Raan expresses some shock when she learns this. The geth knew about that the heretics would go off to slaughter millions if not billions and didn\\\'t care at all.
I can also bring up more reasons why some people hate the geth. Like, for example, how after the geth were through, a population of billions somehow turned into 17 million. Or how the geth take planets they don\\\'t need and shoot anyone who comes near them- even though they explicitly don\\\'t use them and acknowledge that the quarians basically need them- and then blame the organics. This all seems like they should be a JerkassWoobie species, not a straight WoobieSpecies- heck, the page itself says that they\\\'re only the WoobieSpecies \\\"to some extent\\\", yet doesn\\\'t actually list why they\\\'re nowhere near a straight example (and there are a lot).
The point is, the geth [[GreyAndGreyMorality have done just as much if not more to warrant the]] JerkassWoobie (or just straight Jerkass) label, while the justification declaring the quarians a JerkassWoobie species makes no sense.
I have a problem with this. Mostly because putting up on the page and presenting it in a legitimate light makes it sound like the entry isn\\\'t \\\'\\\'meant\\\'\\\'\\\' to make the position sound irrational. Furthermore, if this is apparently enough to label the entire species as a {{Jerkass}} species, why aren\\\'t the geth listed here as a {{Jerkass}} species? Any attempt to do so has been deleted (by the same guy every time). The heretic geth, who went out to commit genocide on everyone, were not the majority, but were was still a huge portion of their population. Likely much larger than whatever amount of high ranking quarian government officials and soldiers decided to murder the protesters and cover it up. To make it worse, while that was done hundreds of years ago and everyone involved is dead now, the heretic crimes were done in the present. The geth seemed to care even less about the heretics crimes than the quarians did about their ancestors- at least Raan expresses some shock when she learns this. The geth knew about that the heretics would go off to slaughter millions if not billions and didn\\\'t care at all.
I can also bring up more reasons why some people hate the geth. Like, for example, how after the geth were through, a population of billions somehow turned into 17 million. Or how the geth take planets they don\\\'t need and shoot anyone who comes near them- even though they explicitly don\\\'t use them and acknowledge that the quarians basically need them- and then blame the organics. This all seems like they should be a JerkassWoobie species, not a straight WoobieSpecies- heck, the page itself says that they\\\'re only the WoobieSpecies \\\"to some extent\\\", yet doesn\\\'t actually list why they\\\'re nowhere near a straight example (and there are a lot).
The point is, the geth [[GreyAndGreyMorality have done just as much if not more to warrant the]] JerkassWoobie (or just straight Jerkass) label, while the justification declaring the quarians a JerkassWoobie species makes no sense.
