History YMMV / MassEffect

5th Dec '16 11:18:04 PM KingZeal
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* VocalMinority: The fans of female Shepard dominate the internet and forum space, but [[http://www.cinemablend.com/games/18-Percent-Gamers-Play-Female-Shepard-Mass-Effect-33611.html it turns out that only 18% of ME3 players actually play as her.]] Though it should be noted that according to that same graphic, only 39.8% of people who played the third game also played the previous games,[[note]]The Long Service Medal, which is earned by importing a save from a previous game, was earned by only 39.8% of players according to that graphic. This fits well with the other statistics given- 36% of players got quarian-geth peace and 36% of players had a living Wrex. Both are only possible with an import.[[/note]] and thus only about 40% of people surveyed could be classified as "fans" to begin with. However, even in the unlikely case that 100% of female Shepard players were fans who had played previous games, that would still mean that male Shepard players are the clear majority in the Mass Effect fanbase.[[note]]18% being FemShep players, and all of those 18% being part of the 40% that played previous games, would suggest a 40/60 split between male and female players in the Mass Effect fanbase. Obviously it'd be a bigger split if any of the 'non-fans' played as a female Shepard.[[/note]]

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* VocalMinority: The fans of female Shepard dominate the internet and forum space, but [[http://www.cinemablend.com/games/18-Percent-Gamers-Play-Female-Shepard-Mass-Effect-33611.html it turns out that only 18% of ME3 players actually play as her.]] Though it should be noted that according to that same graphic, only 39.8% of people who played the third game also played the previous games,[[note]]The Long Service Medal, which is earned by importing a save from a previous game, was earned by only 39.8% of players according to that graphic. This fits well with the other statistics given- 36% of players got quarian-geth peace and 36% of players had a living Wrex. Both are only possible with an import.[[/note]] and thus only about 40% of people surveyed could be classified as "fans" to begin with. However, even in the unlikely case that 100% of female Shepard players were fans who had played previous games, that would still mean that male Shepard players are the clear majority in the Mass Effect fanbase.[[note]]18% being FemShep players, and all of those 18% being part of the 40% that played previous games, would suggest a 40/60 split between male and female players in the Mass Effect fanbase. Obviously it'd be a bigger split if any of the 'non-fans' played as a female Shepard.[[/note]]l
5th Dec '16 8:28:37 PM MonsieurThenardier
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* VocalMinority: The fans of female Shepard dominate the internet and forum space, but [[http://www.cinemablend.com/games/18-Percent-Gamers-Play-Female-Shepard-Mass-Effect-33611.html it turns out that only 18% of players actually play as her.]]

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* VocalMinority: The fans of female Shepard dominate the internet and forum space, but [[http://www.cinemablend.com/games/18-Percent-Gamers-Play-Female-Shepard-Mass-Effect-33611.html it turns out that only 18% of ME3 players actually play as her.]]]] Though it should be noted that according to that same graphic, only 39.8% of people who played the third game also played the previous games,[[note]]The Long Service Medal, which is earned by importing a save from a previous game, was earned by only 39.8% of players according to that graphic. This fits well with the other statistics given- 36% of players got quarian-geth peace and 36% of players had a living Wrex. Both are only possible with an import.[[/note]] and thus only about 40% of people surveyed could be classified as "fans" to begin with. However, even in the unlikely case that 100% of female Shepard players were fans who had played previous games, that would still mean that male Shepard players are the clear majority in the Mass Effect fanbase.[[note]]18% being FemShep players, and all of those 18% being part of the 40% that played previous games, would suggest a 40/60 split between male and female players in the Mass Effect fanbase. Obviously it'd be a bigger split if any of the 'non-fans' played as a female Shepard.[[/note]]
5th Dec '16 8:11:13 PM MonsieurThenardier
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*** Tali at one point tells Shepard that their romance could tear the Migrant Fleet apart -- for several reasons. One, quarian romances with other races are already rare. Two, she's an Admiral's daughter. And three, he's the Captain of another ship, meaning she abandons her fleet name as well to be with him. None of these points ever come up in the games, however.

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*** Tali at one point tells Shepard that their romance could tear the Migrant Fleet apart -- for several reasons. One, quarian romances with other races are already rare. Two, she's an Admiral's daughter.daughter, and eventually an admiral herself. And three, he's the Captain of another ship, meaning she abandons her fleet name as well to be with him. None of these points ever come up in the games, however. Additionally, the [[AllInTheManual Codex]] states that the humans and quarians had no real diplomatic relations or contact prior to cooperation in the Reaper War. The ramifications of the two species' first real diplomatic contact happening at the same time that the first human Spectre falls in love with a quarian admiral aren't explored either.
5th Dec '16 2:01:33 PM KingZeal
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** Several romance subplots have enough material to be its own {{Glurge}} novel:

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** Several romance subplots have enough material to be its own {{Glurge}} novel:RomanceNovel:
5th Dec '16 2:00:18 PM KingZeal
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*** The romance arc between female Commander Shepard and Garrus Vakarian could have had a big subplot all its own. Turians and humans aren't very nice to each other, and many of them are racist against each other's species. Throughout the romance, not a single peep is heard about the possible MalignedMixedMarriage their relationship could cause.*** Tali at one point tells Shepard that their romance could tear the Migrant Fleet apart -- for several reasons. One, quarian romances with other races are already rare. Two, she's an Admiral's daughter. And three, he's the Captain of another ship, meaning she abandons her fleet name as well to be with him. None of these points ever come up in the games, however.

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*** The romance arc between female Commander Shepard and Garrus Vakarian could have had a big subplot all its own. Turians and humans aren't very nice to each other, and many of them are racist against each other's species. Throughout the romance, not a single peep is heard about the possible MalignedMixedMarriage their relationship could cause.cause.
*** Tali at one point tells Shepard that their romance could tear the Migrant Fleet apart -- for several reasons. One, quarian romances with other races are already rare. Two, she's an Admiral's daughter. And three, he's the Captain of another ship, meaning she abandons her fleet name as well to be with him. None of these points ever come up in the games, however.
5th Dec '16 1:59:25 PM KingZeal
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: The rachni. An interesting, truly alien race with build-up as one of the main fighters in the war against the Reapers. In MassEffect3, you only get one conversation with the Rachni queen, and then they are never seen again.
** The romance arc between female Commander Shepard and Garrus Vakarian could have had a big subplot all its own. Turians and humans aren't very nice to each other, and many of them are racist against each other's species. Throughout the romance, not a single peep is heard about the possible MalignedMixedMarriage their relationship could cause.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot:
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The rachni. An interesting, truly alien race with build-up as one of the main fighters in the war against the Reapers. In MassEffect3, you only get one conversation with the Rachni queen, and then they are never seen again.
** Several romance subplots have enough material to be its own {{Glurge}} novel:
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The romance arc between female Commander Shepard and Garrus Vakarian could have had a big subplot all its own. Turians and humans aren't very nice to each other, and many of them are racist against each other's species. Throughout the romance, not a single peep is heard about the possible MalignedMixedMarriage their relationship could cause.*** Tali at one point tells Shepard that their romance could tear the Migrant Fleet apart -- for several reasons. One, quarian romances with other races are already rare. Two, she's an Admiral's daughter. And three, he's the Captain of another ship, meaning she abandons her fleet name as well to be with him. None of these points ever come up in the games, however.
*** Jack is a classic story of LoveRedeems, with Shepard being the only person who's ever given a damn about her and is single-handedly responsible for letting her get her act together. There's a strong story there about a former killer, self-destructive hedonist and drug addict beginning a slow road to recovery with ThePowerOfLove--but no, most of that happens off-screen with only a few pep-talks from Shepard required.
5th Dec '16 1:13:51 PM Zaptech
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** The romance arc between male Commander Shepard and Tali'Zorah even more so. Quarians are possibly the biggest victims of FantasticRacism in the setting, giving said relationship much of the same problems as Shepard/Garrus, except more extreme. More importantly, the codex also mentions that the Systems Alliance and the Migrant Fleet have had very little contact and have no formal diplomatic relations. How would relations between the two polities be affected by their first real contact (cooperation in the Reaper War) happening at about the same time humanity's greatest hero falls in love with a quarian admiral? How would the highly insular quarians react to this development? Or the xenophobic elements of Citadel Space? None of this is ever explored, beyond a throwaway line in first Tali-Shepard romance conversation in the third game where Tali comments that them being together might "divide" the Migrant Fleet, and that they might want to keep their love secret as a result. Which is seemingly forgotten when Tali and Shepard have a romantic moment on Rannoch with several quarians and geth easily within listening range and potentially go on a very public date in the ''Citadel'' DLC (no one seems to bat an eye when they walk into the casino arm in arm).
23rd Nov '16 12:58:19 PM Zaptech
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* StrangledByTheRedString: It was impossible to avoid triggering the romance flag for Liara in [=ME1=] which leads to other crew members (including your love interest) question your interest in her, even if you were openly hostile. Later games had a strong focus on Liara as a love interest, as well as in external media, which made a lot of people turn on her as a potential love interest.
** Same thing happens with Ashley if you're playing as a male Shepard. Even if you're completely hostile to Ashley and avoid talking to her at all costs, at one point Liara will comment that there is something between her and Shepard. The game gives no option to deny a relationship with her beyond a vague "my relationships are private business" comment.
23rd Nov '16 2:22:45 AM MonsieurThenardier
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** The romance arc between male Commander Shepard and Tali'Zorah even more so. Quarians are possibly the biggest victims of FantasticRacism in the setting, giving said relationship much of the same problems as Shepard/Garrus, except more extreme. More importantly, the codex also mentions that the Systems Alliance and the Migrant Fleet have had very little contact and have no formal diplomatic relations. How would relations between the two polities be affected by their first real contact (cooperation in the Reaper War) happening at about the same time humanity's greatest hero falls in love with a quarian admiral? How would the highly insular quarians react to this development? Or the xenophobic elements of Citadel Space? None of this is ever explored, beyond a throwaway line in first Tali-Shepard romance conversation in the third game where Tali comments that them being together might "divide" the Migrant Fleet, and that they might want to keep their love secret as a result. Which is seemingly forgotten when Tali and Shepard have a romantic moment on Rannoch with several quarians and geth easily within listening range and potentially go on a very public date in the ''Citadel'' DLC (no one seems to bat an eye when they walk into the casino arm in arm).
15th Nov '16 6:20:17 AM GreenFablesInverness
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** Really, ALL the squad mates if you think about.
*** Wrex watched the genophage ravage his people to near extinction, is nearly killed by his father pre-series driving him off-world. Finds a potential cure for his people [[spoiler: only it has to be destroyed because it's being used by the BigBad.]] And can end up DEAD depending on Shepard's choices.
*** Mordin Solus: At first glance a happy-go-lucky hyper-intelligent salarian who is deeply guilt-ridden and conflicted over his part in [[spoiler: prolonging the genophage. Just watch him as he discovers the corpses of krogan females who were experimental tests subjects to find a cure. He doesn't take it well.]]
*** Kasumi Goto is a upbeat and perky Master Thief with a soft spot for children who lost the love of her life and never gets over it.
*** Zaeed got betrayed and SHOT IN THE FACE by his old partner whom he founded the Blue Sons with.
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