History YMMV / MassEffect

25th Sep '17 1:57:06 PM NNinja
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* MagnificentBastard: A pure Renegade Shepard. S/he's a total {{Jerkass}} to just about everyone, and is incredibly ruthless in getting what s/he wants, and we love him/her for it. The "Renegade" ending of the first ''Mass Effect'' definitely takes the cake, [[spoiler:A full on Renegade Shep will admit to leaving the Council to die for the sole purpose of replacing them with an all human Council.]]
25th Sep '17 1:55:33 PM NNinja
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* ItWasHisSled: The Protheans didn't build the Mass Relays or the Citadel, it was the Reapers, who are race of space ships that mind control organics and look like robot squids, and Sovereign is a Reaper, not a Reaper ship. These twists were huge at the time, but are pretty much common knowledge amongst the fans nowadays.
13th Sep '17 5:02:01 PM nombretomado
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* {{Applicability}}: The Quarian-Geth conflict has quite a lot in common with the ArabIsraeliConflict.

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* {{Applicability}}: The Quarian-Geth conflict has quite a lot in common with the ArabIsraeliConflict.UsefulNotes/ArabIsraeliConflict.
11th Jul '17 8:02:36 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* EvenTheGirlsWantHer / EvenTheGuysWantHim: Judging from the comments on YouTube and Bioware forums, the characters tend to have this response to players are the Asari (''especially'' [[spoiler:Shadow Broker-]]Liara and Aria), Garrus and post-FanservicePack Kaidan as they are the most popular romantic choice when playing as a Shepard with different gender / orientation.
29th Jun '17 3:33:44 PM Scabbard
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*** She them went on to play Princess Allura in ''WesternAnimation/VoltronLegendaryDefender'', whose first interaction with a human was to decry our ears as hideous.

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*** She them then went on to play Princess Allura in ''WesternAnimation/VoltronLegendaryDefender'', whose first interaction with a human was to decry our ears as hideous.
20th Jun '17 2:18:39 PM MinisterOfSinister
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*** She them went on to play Princess Allura in ''WesternAnimation/VoltronLegendaryDefender'', who's first interaction with a human was to decry our ears as hideous.

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*** She them went on to play Princess Allura in ''WesternAnimation/VoltronLegendaryDefender'', who's whose first interaction with a human was to decry our ears as hideous.



* ItWasHisSled: The Protheans didn't build the Mass Relays or the Citadel, it was the Reapers, who are race of space ships that mind control organics and look like robot squids, and Sovereign is a Reaper, not a Reaper ship. This comes as a twist, but is pretty common knowledge amongst the series fans.

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* ItWasHisSled: The Protheans didn't build the Mass Relays or the Citadel, it was the Reapers, who are race of space ships that mind control organics and look like robot squids, and Sovereign is a Reaper, not a Reaper ship. This comes as a twist, These twists were huge at the time, but is are pretty much common knowledge amongst the series fans.fans nowadays.



-->[[spoiler:Wrex]]: I know what you did.
* RonTheDeathEater: On the flipside of Renegade!Shepard's MisaimedFandom (who romanticize him/her as the ultimate badass), the same fans will vilify the Paragon for being overly idealistic and putting too much blind trust in others. There was even something of a meme with them saying "You should've saved the Collector's base. [[spoiler: The irony in all of this being that a Renegade who constantly choose to ShootTheDog finds themselves with less resources and The Illusive Man stabbing them in the back.]]

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-->[[spoiler:Wrex]]: -->[[spoiler:'''Wrex''']]: I know what you did.
* RonTheDeathEater: On the flipside of Renegade!Shepard's MisaimedFandom (who romanticize him/her as the ultimate badass), the same fans will vilify the Paragon for being overly idealistic and putting too much blind trust in others. There was even something of a meme with them saying "You should've saved the Collector's base. " [[spoiler: The irony in all of this being that a Renegade who constantly choose chooses to ShootTheDog finds themselves with less resources and The Illusive Man stabbing them in the back.]]



** The rachni. An interesting, truly alien race with build-up as one of the main fighters in the war against the Reapers. In MassEffect3, you only get one conversation with the Rachni queen, and then they are never seen again.

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** The rachni. An rachni are an interesting, truly alien race with build-up as one of the main fighters in the war against the Reapers. In MassEffect3, 3, you only get one conversation with the Rachni queen, and then they are never seen again.again even if you secure their aid.



* WhatAnIdiot: Conrad, consistently in all three games. [[CoolOldLady Matriarch Aethyta]] [[{{Facepalm}} speaks for us all]].

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* WhatAnIdiot: Conrad, Conrad Verner, consistently in all three games. [[CoolOldLady Matriarch Aethyta]] [[{{Facepalm}} speaks for us all]].



---> '''Shepard:''' Maybe it's time for your people to give up on reclaiming your world from the geth.
---> '''Tali:''' You have no ''idea'' what it's like! You have a planet to go back to! My home is one hull-breach away from extinction!
---> '''Shepard:''' You've got a place here, Tali. Don't throw it away in a war you don't need.
---> '''Tali:''' "Don't need"? Shepard, if I don't wear a helmet in my own home, I ''die''. A single ''kiss'' could put me in the hospital! Every time you touch a flower with bare fingers, inhale its fragrance without air filters, [[TearJerker you're doing something I can't!]]

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---> '''Shepard:''' --->'''Shepard:''' Maybe it's time for your people to give up on reclaiming your world from the geth.
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geth.\\
'''Tali:''' You have no ''idea'' what it's like! You have a planet to go back to! My home is one hull-breach away from extinction!
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extinction!\\
'''Shepard:''' You've got a place here, Tali. Don't throw it away in a war you don't need.
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need.\\
'''Tali:''' "Don't need"? Shepard, if I don't wear a helmet in my own home, I ''die''. A single ''kiss'' could put me in the hospital! Every time you touch a flower with bare fingers, inhale its fragrance without air filters, [[TearJerker you're doing something I can't!]]
16th Jun '17 12:43:17 AM Zaptech
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** Several romance subplots have enough material to be its own RomanceNovel:
*** The romance arc between female Commander Shepard and Garrus Vakarian could have had a big subplot all its own. Turians and humans aren't very nice to each other, and many of them are racist against each other's species. Throughout the romance, not a single peep is heard about the possible MalignedMixedMarriage their relationship could cause.
*** Tali at one point tells Shepard that their romance could tear the Migrant Fleet apart -- for several reasons. One, quarian romances with other races are already rare. Two, she's an Admiral's daughter, and eventually an admiral herself. And three, he's the Captain of another ship, meaning she abandons her fleet name as well to be with him. None of these points ever come up in the games, however. Additionally, the [[AllThereInTheManual Codex]] states that the humans and quarians had no real diplomatic relations or contact prior to cooperation in the Reaper War. The ramifications of the two species' first real diplomatic contact happening at the same time that the first human Spectre falls in love with a quarian admiral aren't explored either.
*** Jack is a classic story of LoveRedeems, with Shepard being the only person who's ever given a damn about her and is single-handedly responsible for letting her get her act together. There's a strong story there about a former killer, self-destructive hedonist and drug addict beginning a slow road to recovery with ThePowerOfLove--but no, most of that happens off-screen with only a few pep-talks from Shepard required.
14th Jun '17 7:40:07 PM Zaptech
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** To some extent the second game is guilty of this with respect to the setup of the first game. Instead of having Shepard discover the potential means to defeat the Reapers over the course of the second game, the game instead invents the Cerberus and Collectors plots out of thin air. This leads to the third game having to invent the Crucible out of thin air to give a possible solution to the Reaper threat. While people blame the Catalyst in [=ME3=], it is simply the point at which all of those problems came to a head rather than the beginning of the problems.
12th Jun '17 9:50:36 PM fdsa1234567890
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** To some extent the second game is guilty of this with respect to the setup of the first game. Instead of having Shepard discover the potential means to defeat the Reapers over the course of the second game, the game instead invents the Cerberus and Collectors plots out of thin air. This leads to the third game having to invent the Crucible out of thin air to give a possible solution to the Reaper threat. While people blame the Catalyst in [=ME3=], it is simply the point at which all of those problems came to a head rather than the beginning of the problems.
27th May '17 9:42:11 PM Drake1703
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** "You can fight like a krogan, you can run like a leopard, but [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeY-2ovpF9c&feature=feedf you'll never be better than Commander Shepard!"]]

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** "You can fight like a krogan, you can run like a leopard, but [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeY-2ovpF9c&feature=feedf you'll never be better than Commander Shepard!"]]
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