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But seriously, I may think immaturely for understanding Daisy\'s point, but Matthew\'s case also justifies it InUniverse. Only when it comes to Daisy does everyone pretend there is no difference between caring for a friend and being \'\'\'in love\'\'\' (am I the only one who feels Violet\'s reassuring as a manipulative evasion of the question by sticking to whether she \'\'\'liked\'\'\' him, and the \'being forced together equals being in love\' approach closer to concrete thinking?) but everyone encourages Matthew to be sensibly selfish and not marry for duty (though it was admittedly their interest to keep his fortune in the family by pushing him towards Mary). Also, several other characters have a HopelessSuitor, but they don\'t mistake them for their Love Interest. Though my utilitarian morality can agree with Mrs. Patmore, Daisy\'s uncomfortability to feign love is also understandable, especially if she isn\'t used to lying, and her HonorBeforeReason doesn\'t deserve not to be taken seriously either, especially considering she was open-minded enough to reluctantly act against it.
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But seriously, I may think immaturely for understanding Daisy\\\'s point, but Matthew\\\'s case also justifies it InUniverse. Only when it comes to Daisy does everyone pretend there is no difference between caring for a friend and being \\\'\\\'\\\'in love\\\'\\\'\\\' (am I the only one who feels Violet\\\'s reassuring as a manipulative evasion of the question by sticking to whether she \\\'\\\'\\\'liked\\\'\\\'\\\' him, and the \\\'being forced together equals being in love\\\' approach closer to concrete thinking?) but everyone encourages Matthew to be sensibly selfish and not marry for duty (though it was admittedly their interest to keep his fortune in the family by pushing him towards Mary). Also, several other characters have a HopelessSuitor, but they don\\\'t mistake them for their LoveInterest. Though my utilitarian morality can agree with Mrs. Patmore, Daisy\\\'s uncomfortability to feign love is also understandable, especially if she isn\\\'t used to lying, and her HonorBeforeReason doesn\\\'t deserve not to be taken seriously either, especially considering she was open-minded enough to reluctantly act against it.
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But seriously, I may think immaturely for understanding Daisy\'s point, but Matthew\'s case also justifies it InUniverse. Only when it comes to Daisy does everyone pretend there is no difference between caring for a friend and being \'\'\'in love\'\'\' (am I the only one who feels Violet\'s reassuring as a manipulative evasion of the question by sticking to whether she \'\'\'liked\'\'\' him, and the \'being forced together equals being in love\' approach closer to concrete thinking?) but everyone encourages Matthew to be sensibly selfish and not marry for duty (though it was admittedly their interest to keep his fortune in the family by pushing him towards Mary). Though my utilitarian morality can agree with Mrs. Patmore, Daisy\'s uncomfortability to feign love is also understandable, especially if she isn\'t used to lying, and her HonorBeforeReason doesn\'t deserve not to be taken seriously either, especially considering she was open-minded enough to reluctantly act against it.
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But seriously, I may think immaturely for understanding Daisy\\\'s point, but Matthew\\\'s case also justifies it InUniverse. Only when it comes to Daisy does everyone pretend there is no difference between caring for a friend and being \\\'\\\'\\\'in love\\\'\\\'\\\' (am I the only one who feels Violet\\\'s reassuring as a manipulative evasion of the question by sticking to whether she \\\'\\\'\\\'liked\\\'\\\'\\\' him, and the \\\'being forced together equals being in love\\\' approach closer to concrete thinking?) but everyone encourages Matthew to be sensibly selfish and not marry for duty (though it was admittedly their interest to keep his fortune in the family by pushing him towards Mary). Also, several other characters have a HopelessSuitor, but they don\\\'t mistake them for their Love Interest. Though my utilitarian morality can agree with Mrs. Patmore, Daisy\\\'s uncomfortability to feign love is also understandable, especially if she isn\\\'t used to lying, and her HonorBeforeReason doesn\\\'t deserve not to be taken seriously either, especially considering she was open-minded enough to reluctantly act against it.
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But seriously, I may think immaturely for understanding Daisy\'s point, but Matthew\'s case also justifies it InUniverse. Only when it comes to Daisy does everyone pretend there is no difference between caring for a friend and being \'\'\'in love\'\'\', but everyone encourages Matthew to be sensibly selfish and not marry for duty (though it was admittedly their interest to keep his fortune in the family by pushing him towards Mary). Though my utilitarian morality can agree with Mrs. Patmore, Daisy\'s uncomfortability to feign love is also understandable, especially if she isn\'t used to lying, and her HonorBeforeReason doesn\'t deserve not to be taken seriously either, especially considering she was open-minded enough to reluctantly act against it.
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But seriously, I may think immaturely for understanding Daisy\\\'s point, but Matthew\\\'s case also justifies it InUniverse. Only when it comes to Daisy does everyone pretend there is no difference between caring for a friend and being \\\'\\\'\\\'in love\\\'\\\'\\\' (am I the only one who feels Violet\\\'s reassuring as a manipulative evasion of the question by sticking to whether she \\\'\\\'\\\'liked\\\'\\\'\\\' him, and the \\\'being forced together equals being in love\\\' approach closer to concrete thinking?) but everyone encourages Matthew to be sensibly selfish and not marry for duty (though it was admittedly their interest to keep his fortune in the family by pushing him towards Mary). Though my utilitarian morality can agree with Mrs. Patmore, Daisy\\\'s uncomfortability to feign love is also understandable, especially if she isn\\\'t used to lying, and her HonorBeforeReason doesn\\\'t deserve not to be taken seriously either, especially considering she was open-minded enough to reluctantly act against it.
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But seriously, I may think immaturely for understanding Daisy\'s point, but Matthew\'s case also justifies it InUniverse. Only when it comes to Daisy does everyone pretend there is no difference between caring for a friend and being \'\'\'in love\'\'\', but everyone encourages Matthew to be sensibly selfish and not marry for duty (though it was admittedly their interest to keep his fortune in the family by pushing him towards Mary).
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But seriously, I may think immaturely for understanding Daisy\\\'s point, but Matthew\\\'s case also justifies it InUniverse. Only when it comes to Daisy does everyone pretend there is no difference between caring for a friend and being \\\'\\\'\\\'in love\\\'\\\'\\\', but everyone encourages Matthew to be sensibly selfish and not marry for duty (though it was admittedly their interest to keep his fortune in the family by pushing him towards Mary). Though my utilitarian morality can agree with Mrs. Patmore, Daisy\\\'s uncomfortability to feign love is also understandable, especially if she isn\\\'t used to lying, and her HonorBeforeReason doesn\\\'t deserve not to be taken seriously either, especially considering she was open-minded enough to reluctantly act against it.
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But seriously, I may think immaturely for understanding Daisy\'s point, but Matthew\'s case also justifies it InUniverse.
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But seriously, I may think immaturely for understanding Daisy\\\'s point, but Matthew\\\'s case also justifies it InUniverse. Only when it comes to Daisy does everyone pretend there is no difference between caring for a friend and being \\\'\\\'\\\'in love\\\'\\\'\\\', but everyone encourages Matthew to be sensibly selfish and not marry for duty (though it was admittedly their interest to keep his fortune in the family by pushing him towards Mary).
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