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[003] maxwellsilver Current Version

19th Mar '13 at 07:24:56 PM

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I\'m thinking ValuesDissonance should be removed because it contains too much misinformation and total bullshit.

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Removed ValuesDissonance because the first two bullets contained too much misinformation and total bullshit.

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Nobody hated the press more than the Admiralty, who wanted nothing more than to do away with the practise were it not for the problems with manning the fleet during wartime. Life in the Royal Navy was also better than merchant ships, as pay may be in arrears and be slightly lower but it was \'\'\'\'\'always\'\'\'\'\' guarenteed while sailing masters of merchantmen were not above stiffing their crews entirely, crews were larger which meant greater distribution of labour and less work for individual sailors, and treatment was, on average, much better (merchant captains didn\'t have a higher authority to answer to, and, unlike the Royal Navy, crews couldn\'t complain about bad treatment).

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Nobody hated the press more than the Admiralty, who wanted nothing more than to do away with the practise were it not for the problems with manning the fleet during wartime. Life in the Royal Navy was also better than merchant ships, as pay may be in arrears and be slightly lower but it was \\\'\\\'\\\'\\\'\\\'always\\\'\\\'\\\'\\\'\\\' guarenteed while sailing masters of merchantmen were not above stiffing their crews entirely, crews were larger which meant greater distribution of labour and less work for individual sailors, and treatment was, on average, much better (merchant captains didn\\\'t have a higher authority to answer to, and, unlike the Royal Navy, crews couldn\\\'t complain about bad treatment).

Please do the research first before writing about a topic.

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19th Mar '13 at 07:15:10 PM

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** However, the press was legally limited to sailors of homebound Britsh merchant ships, and only in wartime (merchant sailors would know their craft, unlike landsmen, and, being the only ones actually affected by the press, considered it an ocupational hazard). Outbound ships, foreign citizens, East Indiamen and colliers were legally exempt from the press (due to Company influence and the coal typically ending up in the homes of Members of Parliment), as were tradesmen, such as blacksmiths, who wouldn\'t know anything about sailing and would therefore be useless for the several months it would take to train them. Any officer who brought a farmer or blacksmith aboard was in serious trouble. \\\\

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** However, the press was legally limited to sailors of homebound Britsh merchant ships, and only in wartime (merchant sailors would know their craft, unlike landsmen, and, being the only ones actually affected by the press, considered it an ocupational hazard). Outbound ships, foreign citizens, East Indiamen and colliers were legally exempt from the press (the last two due to Company influence and the coal typically ending up in the homes of Members of Parliment), as were tradesmen, such as blacksmiths, who wouldn\\\'t know anything about sailing and would therefore be useless for the several months it would take to train them. Any officer who brought a farmer or blacksmith aboard was in serious trouble. \\\\\\\\

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19th Mar '13 at 07:14:12 PM

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I\'m thinking ValuesDisonnance should be removed because it contains too much misinformation and total bullshit.

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I\\\'m thinking ValuesDissonance should be removed because it contains too much misinformation and total bullshit.

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** However, the press was legally limited to sailors of homebound Britsh merchant ships, and only in wartime (merchant sailors would know their craft, unlike landsmen, and, being the only ones actually affected by the press, considered it an ocupational hazard). Outbound ships, foreign citizens, East Indiamen and colliers were legally exempt from the press (due to Company influence and the coal typically ending up in the homes of Members of Parliment), as were tradesmen, such as blacksmiths, who wouldn\\\'t know anything about sailing and would therefore be useless for the several months it would take to train them. Any officer who brought a farmer or blacksmith aboard was in serious trouble. \\\\\\\\
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The modern idea of press gangs is more or less flat out wrong, as there are only two known instinces of press gangs, both of which resulted in the officers responsible being severely reprimanded and likely passed over for promotion for the remainder of their careers.\\\\\\\\
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Nobody hated the press more than the Admiralty, who wanted nothing more than to do away with the practise were it not for the problems with manning the fleet during wartime. Life in the Royal Navy was also better than merchant ships, as pay may be in arrears and be slightly lower but it was \\\'\\\'\\\'\\\'\\\'always\\\'\\\'\\\'\\\'\\\' guarenteed while sailing masters of merchantmen were not above stiffing their crews entirely, crews were larger which meant greater distribution of labour and less work for individual sailors, and treatment was, on average, much better (merchant captains didn\\\'t have a higher authority to answer to, and, unlike the Royal Navy, crews couldn\\\'t complain about bad treatment).

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