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From the edit reasons: \\\"This isn\\\'t an example. Exploring looks and femininity is not the same as being vain. Using Toph is especially awkward because she demonstrates the very opposite. \\\"

Caring about \\\'\\\'what other people think\\\'\\\' of your appearance is vain. Toph and Katara bond a little when it is shown that Toph isn\\\'t as immune to what other people think as she usually projects (and in general, sincerely is). She\\\'s hurt when she\\\'s called ugly and Katara comes to her defense and cheers her up by saying she\\\'s actually pretty.

This particular example was protested in the YKTTW as well, but although I want to take it seriously I cannot shake the sense that \\\'\\\'[[WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender Avatar: The Last Airbender]]\\\'\\\' being so often and at length lauded (and usually deservedly) on this wiki as a strongly female-positive show (have we mentioned the numerous {{Action Girl}}s, the ease with which it passes TheBechdelTest, the aversion of RealWomenNeverWearDresses, et cetera?), people just naturally bristle to see it mentioned in conjunction with an UnfortunateImplications-laden trope unless it\\\'s to mark it out as an aversion. But this trope, while unfortunate, isn\\\'t always presented in an overtly obvious negative way. Toph and Katara connect here on this level of Toph\\\'s seldom-seen vulnerability. Aww. That\\\'s good CharacterDevelopment right there. But ATLA chose to have this moment of vulnerability concerning what other people think of her appearance in the episode centered around Katara and Toph doing girly things together. It just seems to naturally \\\'\\\'fit\\\'\\\' that caring about what other people think of their appearance is expected and natural... of girls. I\\\'m not calling the exploration of femininity, or even vanity itself, a bad thing, but I am pointing out that vanity and femininity were intentionally linked by the show. Which is the trope.
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From the edit reasons: \\\"This isn\\\'t an example. Exploring looks and femininity is not the same as being vain. Using Toph is especially awkward because she demonstrates the very opposite. \\\"

Caring about \\\'\\\'what other people think\\\'\\\' of your appearance is vain. Toph and Katara bond a little when it is shown that Toph isn\\\'t as immune to what other people think as she usually projects (and in general, sincerely is). She\\\'s hurt when she\\\'s called ugly and Katara comes to her defense and cheers her up by saying she\\\'s actually pretty.

This particular example was protested in the YKTTW as well, but although I want to take it seriously I cannot shake the sense that \\\'\\\'WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender\\\'\\\' being so often and at length lauded (and usually deservedly) on this wiki as a strongly female-positive show (have we mentioned the numerous {{Action Girl}}s, the ease with which it passes TheBechdelTest, the aversion of RealWomenNeverWearDresses, et cetera?), people just naturally bristle to see it mentioned in conjunction with an UnfortunateImplications-laden trope unless it\\\'s to mark it out as an aversion. But this trope, while unfortunate, isn\\\'t always presented in an overtly obvious negative way. Toph and Katara connect here on this level of Toph\\\'s seldom-seen vulnerability. Aww. That\\\'s good CharacterDevelopment right there. But ATLA chose to have this moment of vulnerability concerning what other people think of her appearance in the episode centered around Katara and Toph doing girly things together. It just seems to naturally \\\'\\\'fit\\\'\\\' that caring about what other people think of their appearance is expected and natural... of girls. I\\\'m not calling the exploration of femininity, or even vanity itself, a bad thing, but I am pointing out that vanity and femininity were intentionally linked by the show. Which is the trope.
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From the edit reasons: \\\"This isn\\\'t an example. Exploring looks and femininity is not the same as being vain. Using Toph is especially awkward because she demonstrates the very opposite. \\\"

Caring about \\\'\\\'what other people think\\\'\\\' of your appearance is vain. Toph and Katara bond a little when it is shown that Toph isn\\\'t as immune to what other people think as she usually projects (and in general, sincerely is). She\\\'s hurt when she\\\'s called ugly and Katara comes to her defense and cheers her up by saying she\\\'s actually pretty.

This particular example was protested in the YKTTW as well, but although I want to take it seriously I cannot shake the sense that AvatarTheLastAirbender being so often and at length lauded (and usually deservedly) on this wiki as a strongly female-positive show (have we mentioned the numerous {{Action Girl}}s, the ease with which it passes TheBechdelTest, the aversion of RealWomenNeverWearDresses, et cetera?), people just naturally bristle to see it mentioned in conjunction with an UnfortunateImplications-laden trope unless it\\\'s to mark it out as an aversion. But this trope, while unfortunate, isn\\\'t always presented in an overtly obvious negative way. Toph and Katara connect here on this level of Toph\\\'s seldom-seen vulnerability. Aww. That\\\'s good CharacterDevelopment right there. But ATLA chose to have this moment of vulnerability concerning what other people think of her appearance in the episode centered around Katara and Toph doing girly things together. It just seems to naturally \\\'\\\'fit\\\'\\\' that caring about what other people think of their appearance is expected and natural... of girls. I\\\'m not calling the exploration of femininity, or even vanity itself, a bad thing, but I am pointing out that vanity and femininity were intentionally linked by the show. Which is the trope.
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From the edit reasons: \\\"This isn\\\'t an example. Exploring looks and femininity is not the same as being vain. Using Toph is especially awkward because she demonstrates the very opposite. \\\"

Caring about \\\'\\\'what other people think\\\'\\\' of your appearance is vain. Toph and Katara bond a little when it is shown that Toph isn\\\'t as immune to what other people think as she usually projects (and in general, sincerely is).

This particular example was protested in the YKTTW as well, but although I want to take it seriously I cannot shake the sense that AvatarTheLastAirbender being so often and at length lauded (and usually deservedly) on this wiki as a strongly female-positive show (have we mentioned the numerous {{Action Girl}}s, the ease with which it passes TheBechdelTest, the aversion of RealWomenNeverWearDresses, et cetera?), people just naturally bristle to see it mentioned in conjunction with an UnfortunateImplications-laden trope unless it\\\'s to mark it out as an aversion. But this trope, while unfortunate, isn\\\'t always presented in an overtly obvious negative way. Toph and Katara connect here on this level of Toph\\\'s seldom-seen vulnerability. Aww. That\\\'s good CharacterDevelopment right there. But ATLA chose to have this moment of vulnerability concerning what other people think of her appearance in the episode centered around Katara and Toph doing girly things together. It just seems to naturally \\\'\\\'fit\\\'\\\' that caring about what other people think of their appearance is expected and natural... of girls. I\\\'m not calling the exploration of femininity, or even vanity itself, a bad thing, but I am pointing out that vanity and femininity were intentionally linked by the show. Which is the trope.
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From the edit reasons: \\\"This isn\\\'t an example. Exploring looks and femininity is not the same as being vain. Using Toph is especially awkward because she demonstrates the very opposite. \\\"

Caring about \\\'\\\'what other people think\\\'\\\' of your appearance is vain. Toph and Katara bond a little when it is shown that Toph isn\\\'t as immune to what other people think as she usually projects (and in general, sincerely is).

This particular example was protested in the YKTTW as well, but although I want to take it seriously I cannot shake the sense that it\\\'s mostly an objection based on how Avatar is by and large lauded (and deservedly so) as a female-positive show, so people bristle to see it mentioned in conjunction with an UnfortunateImplications-laden trope unless it\\\'s to mark it out as an aversion. But ATLA isn\\\'t perfect, and this trope, while unfortunate, isn\\\'t always presented in an overtly obvious negative way. Toph and Katara connect here on this level of Toph\\\'s seldom-seen vulnerability. Aww. That\\\'s good CharacterDevelopment right there. But ATLA chose to have this moment of vulnerability concerning what other people think of her appearance in the episode centered around Katara and Toph doing girly things together because it \\\'\\\'fits\\\'\\\' that caring about what other people think of their appearance is expected and natural... of girls. Which is the trope. I\\\'m not calling the exploration of femininity, or even vanity itself, a bad thing, but I am pointing out that vanity and femininity were intentionally linked.

Imagine a gender-reversed scene: two guys in the same peer group who bond a little after one says he thinks the other guy is indeed handsome and then sticks up for him after some other guys call him ugly and bum him out. Would that get played as a sweet, heartwarming moment, or sheer comedy?
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From the edit reasons: \\\"This isn\\\'t an example. Exploring looks and femininity is not the same as being vain. Using Toph is especially awkward because she demonstrates the very opposite. \\\"

Caring about \\\'\\\'what other people think\\\'\\\' of your appearance is vain. Toph and Katara bond a little when it is shown that Toph isn\\\'t as immune to what other people think as she usually projects (and in general, sincerely is).

This particular example was protested in the YKTTW as well, but although I want to take it seriously I cannot shake the sense that it\\\'s mostly an objection based on how Avatar is by and large lauded (and deservedly so) as a female-positive show, so people bristle to see it mentioned in conjunction with an UnfortunateImplications-laden trope unless it\\\'s to mark it out as an aversion. But ATLA isn\\\'t perfect, and this trope, while unfortunate, isn\\\'t always presented in an overtly obvious negative way. Toph and Katara connect here on this level of Toph\\\'s seldom-seen vulnerability. Aww. That\\\'s good CharacterDevelopment right there. But ATLA chose to have this moment of vulnerability concerning what other people think of her appearance in the episode centered around Katara and Toph doing girly things together because it \\\'\\\'fits\\\'\\\' that caring about what other people think of their appearance is expected and natural... of girls. Which is the trope. I\\\'m not calling the exploration of femininity, or even vanity itself, as a bad thing, but I am pointing out that vanity and femininity were intentionally linked.

Imagine a gender-reversed scene: two guys in the same peer group who bond a little after one says he thinks the other guy is indeed handsome and then sticks up for him after some other guys call him ugly and bum him out. Would that get played as a sweet, heartwarming moment, or sheer comedy?
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From the edit reasons: \\\"This isn\\\'t an example. Exploring looks and femininity is not the same as being vain. Using Toph is especially awkward because she demonstrates the very opposite. \\\"

Caring about \\\'\\\'what other people think\\\'\\\' of your appearance is vain. Toph and Katara bond a little when it is shown that Toph isn\\\'t as immune to what other people think as she usually projects (and in general, sincerely is).

This particular example was protested in the YKTTW as well, but I get the sense it\\\'s mostly an objection based on how Avatar is by and large lauded (and deservedly so) as a female-positive show, so people don\\\'t want to see it mentioned in conjunction with an UnfortunateImplications-laden trope unless it\\\'s to mark it out as an aversion. But ATLA isn\\\'t perfect, and this trope, while unfortunate, isn\\\'t always presented in an overtly obvious negative way. Toph and Katara connect here on this level of Toph\\\'s seldom-seen vulnerability. Aww. That\\\'s good CharacterDevelopment right there. But it\\\'s a vulnerability that is shown in an understanding, positive light because caring about what other people think of their appearance is expected and natural... of girls.

Imagine a gender-reversed scene: two guys in the same peer group who bond a little after one says he thinks the other guy is indeed handsome and then sticks up for him after some other guys call him ugly and bum him out. Would that get played as a sweet, heartwarming moment, or sheer comedy?
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From the edit reasons: \\\"This isn\\\'t an example. Exploring looks and femininity is not the same as being vain. Using Toph is especially awkward because she demonstrates the very opposite. \\\"

Caring about \\\'\\\'what other people think\\\'\\\' of your appearance is vain. Toph and Katara bond a little when it is shown that Toph isn\\\'t as immune to what other people think as she usually projects (and in general, sincerely is).

This particular example was protested in the YKTTW as well, but I get the sense it\\\'s mostly an objection based on how Avatar is by and large lauded (and deservedly so) as a female-positive show, so people don\\\'t want to see it mentioned in conjunction with an UnfortunateImplications-laden trope unless it\\\'s to mark it out as an aversion. But ATLA isn\\\'t perfect, and this trope, while unfortunate, isn\\\'t always presented in an overtly obvious negative way. Toph and Katara connect here on this level of Toph\\\'s seldom-seen vulnerability. Aww. That\\\'s good CharacterDevelopment right there. But it\\\'s a vulnerability that is shown in a positive light because caring about what other people think of their appearance is expected and natural... of girls.

Imagine a gender-reversed scene: two guys in the same peer group who bond a little after one says he thinks the other guy is indeed handsome and then sticks up for him after some other guys call him ugly and bum him out. Would that get played as a sweet, heartwarming moment, or sheer comedy?
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From the edit reasons: \\\"This isn\\\'t an example. Exploring looks and femininity is not the same as being vain. Using Toph is especially awkward because she demonstrates the very opposite. \\\"

Caring about \\\'\\\'what other people think\\\'\\\' of your appearance is vain. Toph and Katara bond a little when it is shown that Toph isn\\\'t as immune to what other people think as she usually projects (and in general, sincerely is).

This particular example was protested in the YKTTW as well, but I get the sense it\\\'s mostly an objection based on how Avatar is by and large lauded (and deservedly so) as a female-positive show, so people don\\\'t want to see it mentioned in conjunction with an UnfortunateImplications-laden trope unless it\\\'s to mark it out as an aversion. But ATLA isn\\\'t perfect, and this trope, while unfortunate, isn\\\'t always presented in an overtly obvious negative way. Toph and Katara connect here on this level of Toph\\\'s seldom-seen vulnerability, and it\\\'s a vulnerability that is shown in a positive light because caring about what other people think of their appearance is expected and natural... of girls.

Imagine a gender-reversed scene: two guys in the same peer group who bond a little after one says he thinks the other guy is indeed handsome and then sticks up for him after some other guys call him ugly and bum him out. Would that get played as a sweet, heartwarming moment, or sheer comedy?
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From the edit reasons: \\\"This isn\\\'t an example. Exploring looks and femininity is not the same as being vain. Using Toph is especially awkward because she demonstrates the very opposite. \\\"

Caring about \\\'\\\'what other people think\\\'\\\' of your appearance is vain. Toph and Katara bond a little when it is shown that Toph isn\\\'t as immune to what other people think as she usually projects (and in general, sincerely is).

This particular example was protested in the YKTTW as well, but I get the sense it\\\'s mostly an objection based on how Avatar is by and large lauded (and deservedly so) as a female-positive show, so people don\\\'t want to see it mentioned in conjunction with an UnfortunateImplications-laden trope unless it\\\'s to mark it out as an aversion. But ATLA isn\\\'t perfect, and this trope, while unfortunate, isn\\\'t always presented in an overtly obvious negative way. Imagine a gender-reversed scene: two guys in the same peer group who bond a little after one says he thinks the other guy is indeed handsome and then sticks up for him after some other guys call him ugly and bum him out. Would that get played as be a sweet, heartwarming moment, or sheer comedy? But Toph and Katara connect here on this level of Toph\\\'s seldom-seen vulnerability, and it\\\'s a vulnerability that is shown in a positive light because caring about what other people think of their appearance is expected and natural... of girls.
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From the edit reasons: \\\"This isn\\\'t an example. Exploring looks and femininity is not the same as being vain. Using Toph is especially awkward because she demonstrates the very opposite. \\\"

Caring about \\\'\\\'what other people think\\\'\\\' of your appearance is vain. Toph and Katara bond a little when it is shown that Toph isn\\\'t as immune to what other people think as she usually projects (and in general, sincerely is).

This particular example was protested in the YKKTW as well, but I get the sense it\\\'s mostly an objection based on how Avatar is by and large lauded (and deservedly so) as a female-positive show, so people don\\\'t want to see it mentioned in conjunction with an UnfortunateImplications-laden trope unless it\\\'s to mark it out as an aversion. But ATLA isn\\\'t perfect, and this trope, while unfortunate, isn\\\'t always presented in an overtly obvious negative way. Imagine a gender-reversed scene: two guys in the same peer group who bond a little after one says he thinks the other guy is indeed handsome and then sticks up for him after some other guys call him ugly and bum him out. Would that get played as be a sweet, heartwarming moment, or sheer comedy? But Toph and Katara connect here on this level of Toph\\\'s seldom-seen vulnerability, and it\\\'s a vulnerability that is shown in a positive light because caring about what other people think of their appearance is expected and natural... of girls.
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