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[005] Iaculus Current Version
16th Dec '12 at 02:58:56 AM
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Good point. Sometimes, it\'s an earnest effort to show that This Is Not What Mainstream Feminists Actually Believe, but too often it\'s more of a \'well, I have friends who are X and \'\'they\'\' aren\'t offended\' thing.
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Good point. Sometimes, it\\\'s an earnest effort to show that This Is Not What Mainstream Feminists Actually Believe, but too often it\\\'s more of a \\\'well, I have friends who are X and \\\'\\\'they\\\'\\\' aren\\\'t offended\\\' thing. Feel free to chop out any value judgements that look a bit weird to you - the wiki\\\'s supposed to stay fairly neutral, anyway.
[004] Wyldchyld
1st Dec '12 at 06:40:22 AM
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Storytelling tropes, not character pages: CurbStompBattle, DarkerAndEdgier, GratuitousGerman (already on the main page), SortingAlgorithmOfEvil, WhamEpisode, OnlySixFaces, WhamLine
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Storytelling tropes (ie, main pages, not character pages): CurbStompBattle, DarkerAndEdgier, GratuitousGerman (already on the main page), SortingAlgorithmOfEvil, WhamEpisode, OnlySixFaces, WhamLine
[003] Wyldchyld
29th Nov '12 at 03:58:18 AM
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Storytelling tropes belong on the main page, not character pages: CurbStompBattle, DarkerAndEdgier, GratuitousGerman (already on the main page), SortingAlgorithmOfEvil, WhamEpisode, OnlySixFaces, WhamLine
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Storytelling tropes, not character pages: CurbStompBattle, DarkerAndEdgier, GratuitousGerman (already on the main page), SortingAlgorithmOfEvil, WhamEpisode, OnlySixFaces, WhamLine
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Tropes that are complete guesses and individual interpretations of things that haven\'t been explained yet: BioAugmentation, InstantExpert, VillainTeleportation, LukeIAmYourFather (no-one knows if it\'s literal yet), AntagonistInMourning, VoluntaryShapeshifting, FourEyesZeroSoul, MeaningfulName (Shaz and the puppeteer), MercyKill, SkeletonsInTheCoatCloset, MadeOfIron
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Tropes that are guessing: BioAugmentation, InstantExpert, VillainTeleportation, LukeIAmYourFather (no-one knows if it\\\'s literal yet), AntagonistInMourning, VoluntaryShapeshifting, FourEyesZeroSoul, MeaningfulName (Shaz and the puppeteer), MercyKill, SkeletonsInTheCoatCloset, MadeOfIron
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Tropes not being used as the descriptions say they should be: AllYourPowersCombined, BadassCrew, CustomUniform, DangerouslyGenreSavvy, GenocideBackfire (shinigami trope, it needs to be on the main pages), PersonOfMassDestruction, GodEmperor, NeverSpeakIllOfTheDead, OlderThanTheyLook, OrcusOnHisThrone, WeCanRuleTogether, YourPrincessIsInAnotherCastle, ChekhovsGunman, LeanAndMean (in Haschwald\'s case), KickTheDog (Bambietta, Shaz), AmbiguousGender, BunnyEarsLawyer, NonIndicativeName (Arrancar have never had exclusively spanish names).
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Tropes being miused: AllYourPowersCombined, BadassCrew, CustomUniform, DangerouslyGenreSavvy, GenocideBackfire (shinigami trope, it needs to be on the main pages), PersonOfMassDestruction, GodEmperor, NeverSpeakIllOfTheDead, OlderThanTheyLook, OrcusOnHisThrone, WeCanRuleTogether, YourPrincessIsInAnotherCastle, ChekhovsGunman, LeanAndMean (in Haschwald\\\'s case), KickTheDog (Bambietta, Shaz), AmbiguousGender, BunnyEarsLawyer, NonIndicativeName (Arrancar have never had exclusively spanish names).
[002] Wyldchyld
29th Nov '12 at 03:57:18 AM
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Misused tropes:
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Tropes not being used as the descriptions say they should be: AllYourPowersCombined, BadassCrew, CustomUniform, DangerouslyGenreSavvy, GenocideBackfire (shinigami trope, it needs to be on the main pages), PersonOfMassDestruction, GodEmperor, NeverSpeakIllOfTheDead, OlderThanTheyLook, OrcusOnHisThrone, WeCanRuleTogether, YourPrincessIsInAnotherCastle, ChekhovsGunman, LeanAndMean (in Haschwald\\\'s case), KickTheDog (Bambietta, Shaz), AmbiguousGender, BunnyEarsLawyer, NonIndicativeName (Arrancar have never had exclusively spanish names).
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AllYourPowersCombined - an enemy can steal entire groups of powers and use them simultaneously. The Vandenreich hasn\'t done this. The few that have stolen powers have done so on a one-to-one basis. Quilge is the one who came closest to this with his reishi-enslavement, but he didn\'t steal powers to reuse them. He stole the \'fuel\' that powered attacks and I\'m sure there\'s a different trope for that.
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HeroKiller - this isn\\\'t about killing characters. This is about the impact of reputation in-universe. The Vandenreich haven\\\'t had this reputation yet. Juhabach might become one after what happened here, but the story hasn\\\'t progressed to that point yet.
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BadassCrew - this is a \'family\' based trope in the sense it needs a group of recurring characters that function as a group. We haven\'t seen that yet. We wouldn\'t know who to assign this status to.
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YourPrincessIsInAnotherCastle - this supposed to be about the story\\\'s plot looking like it\\\'s finished and then being revealed to not be finished. Juhabach and Quilge weren\\\'t indicating the story was ending.
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CustomUniform - this isn\'t for accessorising and tweaks.
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ChekhovsGunman - this is about a seemingly unimportant introduction. An appearance on a full colour spread isn\\\'t unimportant.
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DangerouslyGenreSavvy - What genre are they being savvy about as a collective unit?
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TheWorfEffect - is about establishing the threat level of an unknown enemy, not about known good guys curb stomping an unknown enemy.
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GenocideBackfire - this is a shinigami trope, not a Vandenreich trope. It needs to be on the main pages as a result.

HeroKiller - this isn\'t about killing characters. This is about the impact of reputation in-universe. The Vandenreich haven\'t had this reputation yet. Juhabach might become one after what happened here, but the story hasn\'t progressed to that point yet.

PersonOfMassDestruction - example is about a group, trope is about an individual.

GodEmperor - it\'s supposed to be an in-universe trope.

HairTriggerTemper - the example used is covered by ForTheEvulz.

NeverSpeakIllOfTheDead - this trope hasn\'t been confirmed as active for the story for Juhabach to avert it.

OlderThanTheyLook - this is for characters who are not impossibly old. Impossibly old characters belong under Really700YearsOld.

OrcusOnHisThrone - this trope was never in play in the first place for it to be averted.

SingleStrokeBattle - this wasn\'t in play for the example given and it\'s a storytelling trope not a character trope.

TheStoic / NotSoStoic - if he loses his mask easily, he\'s not stoic in the first place.

WeCanRuleTogether - this is for offers of partnership, not offers to come and serve in an army.

YourPrincessIsInAnotherCastle - this supposed to be about the story\'s plot looking like it\'s finished and then being revealed to not be finished. Juhabach and Quilge weren\'t indicating the story was ending.

ChekhovsGunman - this is about a seemingly unimportant introduction. An appearance on a full colour spread isn\'t unimportant.

LeanAndMean - Haschwald is no leaner or meaner than any other character.

KickTheDog - insults are normal in Bleach fights. There was nothing exceptional about Bambietta\'s insults to justify this trope and what Shaz did to Akon is no different to most of the Stern Ritter actions so far.

AmbiguousGender - in-universe trope, not viewer trope.

TheWorfEffect - is about establishing the threat level of an unknown enemy, not about known good guys curb stomping an unknown enemy.

BunnyEarsLawyer - it has to be established there\'s something about the weirdness setting Quilge apart from others of his kind that makes it strange he holds his position. This wasn\'t in effect.

RealityWarper: the reishi enslavement power is more like a PersonOfMassDestruction example, although not exactly that either.

NonIndicativeName - not all the arrancar had spanish names.
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RealityWarper: the reishi enslavement power is more like a PersonOfMassDestruction example, although not exactly that either.
[001] Wyldchyld
29th Nov '12 at 03:50:12 AM
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TheStoic/NotSoStoic - if he loses his mask easily, he\'s not stoic in the first place.
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TheStoic / NotSoStoic - if he loses his mask easily, he\\\'s not stoic in the first place.

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