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Look, of course the context is this whole debate about evolution and creationism. And boy do I not want to step in that one. But is it possible you\'re overthinking this a little bit? The shirts are making a fairly straightforward joke: \
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Look, of course the context is this whole debate about evolution and creationism. And boy do I not want to step in that one. But is it possible you\\\'re overthinking this a little bit? The shirts are making a fairly straightforward joke: \\\"Ha, ha, isn\\\'t it silly to believe that the sun orbits the earth,\\\" or \\\"Ha, ha, isn\\\'t it silly to think it\\\'s possible to transmute lead into gold.\\\" My point is that, well, yes, Copernicus and Galileo made major contributions to astronomy, and yes, alchemy deserves to have been discredited, but there is a sense, even if only a technical one, in which the sun does orbit the earth and it is possible to transmute lead into gold. Which as I see it, fits this trope.
Now look, this is inherently a subjective trope. What one person will see as a straw man, others might see as a well reasoned position. The \\\'\\\'Wall Street\\\'\\\' example is all about this: some people see Gecko as a straw man form of capitalism, others don\\\'t. Likewise, some people will see a point in the straw man\\\'s argument where others don\\\'t.
What I don\\\'t understand, Jordan, is why you and Westrim feel you should go through the page all the time and remove examples just because you don\\\'t entirely agree with them. It would be one thing if it\\\'s an example that couldn\\\'t possibly fit the trope, and no one is prepared to argue that it does. Otherwise, I think this is just a case of [[{{YMMV}} your mileage varying]].
Now look, this is inherently a subjective trope. What one person will see as a straw man, others might see as a well reasoned position. The \\\'\\\'Wall Street\\\'\\\' example is all about this: some people see Gecko as a straw man form of capitalism, others don\\\'t. Likewise, some people will see a point in the straw man\\\'s argument where others don\\\'t.
What I don\\\'t understand, Jordan, is why you and Westrim feel you should go through the page all the time and remove examples just because you don\\\'t entirely agree with them. It would be one thing if it\\\'s an example that couldn\\\'t possibly fit the trope, and no one is prepared to argue that it does. Otherwise, I think this is just a case of [[{{YMMV}} your mileage varying]].
