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Prior to that, there was no pressing reason to take drastic measures in increasing production beyond what the family was capable of since it was a seasonal side-business and there were no competitors. The Apples have made it clear that they\'re straightforward ponies that don\'t really care about becoming rich. They just want enough money to support themselves and their orchard when winter comes. All the \
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Prior to that, there was no pressing reason to take drastic measures in increasing production beyond what the family was capable of since it was a seasonal side-business and there were no competitors. The Apples have made it clear that they\\\'re straightforward ponies that don\\\'t really care about becoming rich. They just want enough money to support themselves and their orchard when winter comes. All the \\\"negative PR\\\" you mentioned equated to a handful of ponies grumbling, then immediately coming back and lining up for miles to get a taste the next day, so they clearly didn\\\'t drive their consumers off.

After that, they had, at most, one afternoon to produce more before the bros. established their intentions to run them out of business after offering a frankly insulting deal. During that that time, the Flim and Flam made it clear that the only source of apples they actually had was from Sweet Apple Acres which, given that no deal was made, they weren\\\'t actually able to sell. As such, they only became valid competition after the contest when, in their haste, they ruined their own batch of cider.

With all of that, you can only call it an IdiotPlot if you assume that similar competitors were lurking around the corner. At worst, the Apples were just a bit too traditionalist. The only truly stupid thing they did was respond to the bros. goading them into a competition that played against their strengths. The fact that their process has flaws does not equate to this trope. The trope\\\'s definition isn\\\'t \\\"I could do this better\\\", it\\\'s reserved for a plot that depends purely on stupidity from everyone involved which this episode simply doesn\\\'t have.
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Prior to that, there was no pressing reason to take drastic measures in increasing production beyond what the family was capable of since it was a seasonal side-business and there were no competitors. The Apples have made it clear that they\'re straightforward ponies that don\'t really care about becoming rich. They just want enough money to support themselves and their orchard when winter comes. All the \
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Prior to that, there was no pressing reason to take drastic measures in increasing production beyond what the family was capable of since it was a seasonal side-business and there were no competitors. The Apples have made it clear that they\\\'re straightforward ponies that don\\\'t really care about becoming rich. They just want enough money to support themselves and their orchard when winter comes. All the \\\"negative PR\\\" you mentioned equated to a handful of ponies grumbling, then immediately coming back and lining up for miles to get a taste the next day, so they clearly didn\\\'t drive their consumers off.

After that, they had, at most, one afternoon to produce more before the bros. established their intentions to run them out of business after offering a frankly insulting deal. During that that time, the Flim and Flam made it clear that the only source of apples they actually had was from Sweet Apple Acres which, given that no deal was made, they weren\\\'t actually able to sell. As such, they only became valid competition after the contest when, in their haste, they ruined their own batch of cider.

With all of that, you can only call it an IdiotPlot if you assume that similar competitors were lurking around the corner. At worst, the Apples were just a bit too traditionalist. The only truly stupid thing they did was respond to the bros. goading them into a competition that played against their strengths. Either way, the fact that their process has flaws does not equate to this trope.
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Prior to that, there was no pressing reason to take drastic measures in increasing production beyond what the family was capable of since it was a seasonal side-business and there were no competitors. The Apples have made it clear that they\'re straightforward ponies that don\'t really care about becoming rich. They just want enough money to support themselves and their orchard when winter comes.
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Prior to that, there was no pressing reason to take drastic measures in increasing production beyond what the family was capable of since it was a seasonal side-business and there were no competitors. The Apples have made it clear that they\\\'re straightforward ponies that don\\\'t really care about becoming rich. They just want enough money to support themselves and their orchard when winter comes. All the \\\"negative PR\\\" you mentioned equated to a handful of ponies grumbling, then immediately coming back and lining up for miles to get a taste the next day, so they clearly didn\\\'t drive their consumers off.
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Prior to that, there was no pressing reason to take drastic measures in increasing production beyond what the family was capable of since it was a seasonal side-business and there were no competitors. After that, they had, at most, one afternoon to produce more before the bros. established their intentions to run them out of business after offering a frankly insulting deal. During that that time, the Flim and Flam made it clear that the only source of apples they actually had was from Sweet Apple Acres which, given that no deal was made, they weren\'t actually able to sell. As such, they only became valid competition after the contest when, in their haste, they ruined their own batch of cider.
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Prior to that, there was no pressing reason to take drastic measures in increasing production beyond what the family was capable of since it was a seasonal side-business and there were no competitors. The Apples have made it clear that they\\\'re straightforward ponies that don\\\'t really care about becoming rich. They just want enough money to support themselves and their orchard when winter comes.
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After that, they had, at most, one afternoon to produce more before the bros. established their intentions to run them out of business after offering a frankly insulting deal. During that that time, the Flim and Flam made it clear that the only source of apples they actually had was from Sweet Apple Acres which, given that no deal was made, they weren\\\'t actually able to sell. As such, they only became valid competition after the contest when, in their haste, they ruined their own batch of cider.
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Prior to that, there was no pressing reason to take drastic measures in increasing production beyond what the family was capable of since it was a seasonal side-business and there were no competitors. After that, they had, at most, one day to produce more before the bros. established their intentions to run them out of business after offering a frankly insulting deal. During that that time, the Flim and Flam made it clear that the only source of apples they actually had was from Sweet Apple Acres which, given that no deal was made, they weren\'t actually able to sell. As such, they only became valid competition after the contest when, in their haste, they ruined their own batch of cider.
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Prior to that, there was no pressing reason to take drastic measures in increasing production beyond what the family was capable of since it was a seasonal side-business and there were no competitors. After that, they had, at most, one afternoon to produce more before the bros. established their intentions to run them out of business after offering a frankly insulting deal. During that that time, the Flim and Flam made it clear that the only source of apples they actually had was from Sweet Apple Acres which, given that no deal was made, they weren\\\'t actually able to sell. As such, they only became valid competition after the contest when, in their haste, they ruined their own batch of cider.
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With all of that, you can only call it an IdiotPlot if you assume that similar competitors were lurking around the corner. At worst, the Apples were just a bit too traditionalist.
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With all of that, you can only call it an IdiotPlot if you assume that similar competitors were lurking around the corner. At worst, the Apples were just a bit too traditionalist. Either way, the fact that their process has flaws does not equate to this trope.
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